Some think Obama is center and they have convinced many that he is. So when they use him as a marker the world is going down no matter what a polls says.

70% of Democrats are communists, 30% are centrists/conservative

What makes someone a communist? As defined by Glenn Beck?

Democrat leaders listen to their 70% base and govern like communists.

Republicans beat up on their 70% base and govern like liberals.

Agreed angryed. And the pundits and Washington elite help both parties to do this.

Here’s the bigg difference though

Democrat leaders listen to their 70% base and govern like communists.

Republicans beat up on their 70% base and govern like liberals.

Hence why we are about to have an election betwen Obama(Communist) and Romney (liberal).

Seven Percent Solution on January 13, 2012 at 4:03 PM

I need to see some polling data on that first. It might be true. It might not.

lol

This is why candidates like Obama have to lie in order to get elected. If they ever told the truth about their mission and intentions, they’d never get the votes.

The Rogue Tomato on January 13, 2012 at 3:28 PM

This.

Democrats win elections by campaigning to the right of how they want to govern.

Republicans lose elections by running people that want to govern to the left of how the people actually want to be governed.

digitalhap on January 13, 2012 at 4:44 PM

This. And This.

This is why candidates like Obama have to lie in order to get elected. If they ever told the truth about their mission and intentions, they’d never get the votes.

The Rogue Tomato on January 13, 2012 at 3:28 PM

This.

Democrats win elections by campaigning to the right of how they want to govern.

Republicans lose elections by running people that want to govern to the left of how the people actually want to be governed.

If the nation were truly lopsided on one ideology (like conservatism) then Obama would have never been President with a 60 seat Democrat Senate and full control of the House. Republicans would win no matter who we ran or the conditions on the ground. Obviously, that’s just not true.

That’s why I get so sick of conservatives that make idiotic statements like “If you just run a REAL conservative, they’ll win a landslide every time.” Bullshit.

Candidate quality MATTERS if you’re actually serious about winning elections and changing public policy. If you are just interested in being “dead right”, you nominate Sharon Angle and Christine O’Donnell type Republicans that end up electing left-wing Democrats that drive us further into a ditch.

Let’s face it. A significant portion of Americans are idiots and people who make money off of these idiots. Politicians on both the left and the right can and will take advantage of America’s increasing stupidity level. It came as no surprise to me that Obama was elected despite most of the country being center-right.

If we’re such a center-right nation, why do whe have this disaster for a president and 15 trillion dollars of debt?

There clearly a disconnect somewhere along the line.

chalons on January 13, 2012 at 3:40 PM

We have a hard-left elite. They mostly control the political system. It matters little what the lower classes believe if they lack political power, and it’s been the same in most countries all throughout history.

Why is Obama actually running to the Left? Does anyone think this makes sense in light of these numbers?

rockmom on January 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM

I’m shocked at his recent power grabs with the “recess” appointments, etc. I know his advisors are telling him to do this to feed the “running against a do nothing congress” narrative, but I think it is going to backfire. It will remind people of how he wiped his a$$ with the constitution while shoving Obamacare down our collective throats.

THAT’s the number that ought to scare liberals. They have always, always said that once we got a real liberal President everyone would see that liberal policy works and makes people happy. Markos Moulitsas was crowing after the 2008 election that conservatism was DEAD and would never recover, and liberal/progressive would no longer be dirty words.

The Republican nominee starts out this election with 40% of the vote, while Obama starts out with 21%. Who has the more difficult task trying to present himself as a moderate to appeal to those moderate voters? Why is Obama actually running to the Left? Does anyone think this makes sense in light of these numbers?

Kataklysmic on January 13, 2012 at 4:10 PM

and 3) Many conservatives are too busy living their lives to have figured out one and two.

(sorry, hit submit early)

If the US is center-right than how come Democrat talking points have so much appeal for Americans. I ask as a frustrated conservative.

earlgrey133 on January 13, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Three reasons imo:

1)The professions that have the ability to influence opinion (media, academia, law) draw a dramatically disproportionate number of people with liberal sensibilities

2) Those people inject their political biases into their work

Nevertheless, the United States is still a center-right nation, as two recent pieces of evidence attest.

Howls of denial coming out of the Newtist colony! Later today there’ll be a communique from the People’s Republic of Pelosi’s Couch re-stating Newty “Che” Gingrich’s commitment to making the world safe from capitalism!