Poll: 43% think God is helping Tebow succeed

posted at 8:47 pm on January 13, 2012 by Allahpundit

The media’s treating this as a poll on whether people think God is helping Tebow to win, but the way the actual question was phrased is subtly different. Direct quote: “Do you believe that any of Tim Tebow’s success can be attributed to divine intervention?” (Emphasis mine.) Correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s a much easier question for a believer, no? Everyone’s “success” is, supposedly, attributable to providence to some degree. God gives you certain talents, you put them to use, you make something of yourself, voila, you’ve succeeded — even if you don’t win the Super Bowl. Which is not to say there aren’t Christians out there who think God’s actually picking favorites on Sunday afternoon. Said one Colorado pastor to TMZ last month, “It’s not luck. Luck isn’t winning 6 games in a row. It’s favor. God’s favor.” That was published on December 15; the Broncos lost three in a row starting the following Sunday.

Could there be a partisan divide on this question? There’s a partisan divide on everything, my friends:

Among the 70% of Americans who say they know of Tebow’s success, here’s how people by political affiliation responded to this question: “Do believe that any of Tim Tebow’s success can be attributed to Divine Intervention?”

– Republicans: 54% yes, 32% no, and 14% no opinion.

– Democrats: 38% yes, 48% no, 14% no opinion.

– Independents: 35% yes, 49% no, 16% no opinion.

Interesting that independents are even less likely than Democrats to say yes. Incidentally, Tebow himself apparently does not pray for victory. No one knows for sure except him, but when he was mic’d up for the Bears game in December, this is what he said:

“Lord put a wall of protection around me and my teammates today, and we go out there and we can honor you with everything we do and say. I love you in Jesus’ name.”

And later in the game:

“Dear Jesus, I need you. Please come through for me. No matter what happens, win or lose, give me the strength to honor you.”

As Deadspin noted at the time, those are poignant sentiments coming from a QB whose career isn’t likely to last long due to all the hits he takes while scrambling. Hopefully he’ll endure, but if not, I know what he can fall back on. How about national chairman of the Make-a-Wish Foundation? Rick Reilly:

Every week, Tebow picks out someone who is suffering, or who is dying, or who is injured, flies them and their families to the Broncos game, rents them a car, puts them up in a nice hotel, buys them dinner (usually at a Dave and Buster’s), gets them and their families pregame passes, visits with them just before kickoff (!), gets them 30-yard line tickets down low, visits with them after the game (sometimes for an hour), has them walk him to his car, and sends them off with a basket of gifts…

Take 9-year-old Zac Taylor, a child who lives in constant pain. Immediately after Tebow shocked the Chicago Bears with a 13-10 comeback win, Tebow spent an hour with Zac and his family. At one point, Zac, who has 10 doctors, asked Tebow if he has a secret prayer for hospital visits. Tebow whispered it in his ear. And since Tebow still needed to be checked out by the Broncos’ team doctor, he took Zac in with him, but only after they’d whispered it together…

Isn’t that a huge distraction?

“Just the opposite,” Tebow says. “It’s by far the best thing I do to get myself ready. Here you are, about to play a game that the world says is the most important thing in the world. Win and they praise you. Lose and they crush you. And here I have a chance to talk to the coolest, most courageous people. It puts it all into perspective. The game doesn’t really matter. I mean, I’ll give 100 percent of my heart to win it, but in the end, the thing I most want to do is not win championships or make a lot of money, it’s to invest in people’s lives, to make a difference.”

If Make-a-Wish doesn’t work out, there’s always politics: His favorable rating among Republicans in South Carolina per PPP’s new poll is 76/7, which is nearly 20 points better than Romney’s. Tebow 2024?

Via the Daily Caller, here’s Krauthammer et al. previewing tomorrow night’s battle of good and evil on the fields of Megiddo in New England. I don’t know how anyone can root against this guy.


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God can help Timmy all the way to the Superbowl, but the Niners are still going to disappoint them both!

Rovin on January 13, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Place holding for Bishop.

platypus on January 13, 2012 at 8:50 PM

43% of people are idiots

kastor on January 13, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Said one Colorado pastor to TMZ last month, “It’s not luck. Luck isn’t winning 6 games in a row. It’s favor. God’s favor.” That was published on December 15; the Broncos lost three in a row starting the following Sunday.

It’s pretty discouraging that God would withhold His favor just because it was pointed out like that.

But it’s even worse that He watches TMZ.

malclave on January 13, 2012 at 8:53 PM

I’m surprised it’s polling this low.

John the Libertarian on January 13, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Luke 12:7

aquaviva on January 13, 2012 at 8:54 PM

kastor on January 13, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Way to start it off, liberal.

John the Libertarian on January 13, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Wow, I’ve never in all these years been “first” before. Is there a booby prize? How about a Tebow bobble head doll?

Rovin on January 13, 2012 at 8:55 PM

43% of people are idiots

kastor on January 13, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Same 43% that believe in ‘creationism’.

Little Timmy will be worshiping at the alter of Brady by the end of Saturday night.

bayam on January 13, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Why do conservatives always want to draft people without knowing a damn thing about their politics? As far as I can tell, Tebow does not talk about politics. Good for him.

Same with actors. If an actor is not a total moonbat, there is always someone saying they must be conservative when it is clear that they are not if you read their past interviews.

Anyway, here’s to Tim Tebow, a success in what ever he does. Hell, the guy is only 24 and has a long life, knock on wood, a head of him.

His parents were missionaries in the Philippines in the 90s. Do any of you remember how muslim terrorists were kidnapping and beheading missionaries back then? That sure has faded from the news.

Blake on January 13, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Way to start it off, liberal.

John the Libertarian on January 13, 2012 at 8:54 PM

oof, it’s gonna get hot in here,you should’ve seen the comments from the similar thread this afternoon. .

MontanaMmmm on January 13, 2012 at 8:58 PM

God! Love that kid! I do!
It’s a b!tch being a nice kid today.
I guess you are only right, if you use God’s name in vain today.
(I was thinking of JugEar’s Reverend Jeremiah Wright)

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s a much easier question for a believer, no?

The religious questions are usually so ham-fisted, and the interpretation of the results so dumb, it’s kind of nice to see you iron it out a little, AP.

The guy is not praying to win. He’s praying for safety and to fill up his talent; and since he’s the real deal, he’s praying for all of them. I love to watch this guy run his race. He makes me want to do better running mine.

Seriously, thanks.

– I won’t even bother you now with the mathematical improbability of writing 3:16 on your face, coincidentally throwing for 316 yards and coincidentally averaging 31.6 :)

Axe on January 13, 2012 at 8:59 PM

43% of people are idiots

kastor on January 13, 2012 at 8:53 PM

+1

nathor on January 13, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Count me in the 57%. I don’t think God cares who wins football games. I respect Tebow’s faith but he should read (reread) Matthew 6:5-6.

sidemeat on January 13, 2012 at 8:59 PM

It’s good to know that with pointless distractions like S&P downgrading a huge chunk of the Eurozone and warning in no uncertain terms that Europe is facing a huge recession, we have time to focus on a REAL issue: Trying to embarrass those damned Christians!

(do I need a sarc tag?)

Doomberg on January 13, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Godspeed Tim.

ronval912 on January 13, 2012 at 9:00 PM

I don’t think God is helping Tebow. I think he’s punishing anti-religious dickheads, and it just looks like he’s helping Tebow.

RBMN on January 13, 2012 at 9:03 PM

kastor on January 13, 2012 at 8:53 PM
Way to start it off, liberal.
John the Libertarian on January 13, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Actually I’m a libertarian. And because people actually believe god makes any one successful shows how idiotic people can be. I guess all the poor people and starving people in the world don’t have god’s/gods’ favor but tebow does?…

Brady dines in hell Saturday night! Tebow will lose and sacrifice the game… For our sins!

kastor on January 13, 2012 at 9:04 PM

What’s wrong with you people? Tebow prays that no one gets hurt. The guy is so unselfish and the response is just a bunch of selfish smarta$$ comments.

Blake on January 13, 2012 at 9:05 PM

43% of people need to turn off their TV, go outside, and find the person that needs the helping hand of God. Be the hand.

Football is game played by, and for, people that don’t really need that hand. Stop this Tebow-worship nonsense now. He’s a nice guy. Great. Move on.

M240H on January 13, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Count me in the 57%. I don’t think God cares who wins football games. I respect Tebow’s faith but he should read (reread) Matthew 6:5-6.
sidemeat on January 13, 2012 at 8:59 PM

And you should re-read the post. Namely:

Incidentally, Tebow himself apparently does not pray for victory. No one knows for sure except him, but when he was mic’d up for the Bears game in December, this is what he said:

“Lord put a wall of protection around me and my teammates today, and we go out there and we can honor you with everything we do and say. I love you in Jesus’ name.”

And later in the game:

“Dear Jesus, I need you. Please come through for me. No matter what happens, win or lose, give me the strength to honor you.”

billy on January 13, 2012 at 9:06 PM

In Florida, we don’t call him Mr. Everything for nothing.

SlaveDog on January 13, 2012 at 9:06 PM

What’s wrong with you people? Tebow prays that no one gets hurt. The guy is so unselfish and the response is just a bunch of selfish smarta$$ comments.

Blake on January 13, 2012 at 9:05 PM

.

So true. I guess it wouldn’t be appropriate to add I’d hit that. Kidding! I’m kidding!

cynccook on January 13, 2012 at 9:10 PM

oh yes the invisible man in the sky is helping guide the football.

believers are truly insane

DBear on January 13, 2012 at 9:11 PM

– I won’t even bother you now with the mathematical improbability of writing 3:16 on your face, coincidentally throwing for 316 yards and coincidentally averaging 31.6 :)

“Mathematical improbabilities” happen all the time. You have a 1 in 18,000,000 chance of winning the state lottery-yet several people end up winning the lottery every year. Some of them win the lottery several times-which has an even higher mathematical improbability than winning the lottery once.

Just because something has a high improbability-that does not mean that it cannot happen by chance. This is the same flawed logic that creationists use to try and disprove evolution, and it makes no sense.

theoddmanout on January 13, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Let’s decide religious questions by the outcome of polls. That should work.
/s

WhatNot on January 13, 2012 at 9:13 PM

A guy who you woudn’t mind taking home to meet your mom. I agree with the panel.

bluealice on January 13, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Hey,oddmanout ? Care to disprove creationism for us.

MontanaMmmm on January 13, 2012 at 9:16 PM

I can’t believe I can’t find a picture of Jesus Tebowing. I’m disappointed in you, internets.

ZGMF_Freedom on January 13, 2012 at 9:16 PM

kastor on January 13, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Why is it that merely typing the phrase “Well actually I’m a libertarian…” seems to impart in some people a sense that he can feel free to be a smug, self-righteous pr!ck?
I swear, so-called libertarians are more self-satisfied and holier-than-thou than the hardest bible-thumping, snake-handling, holy rolling, rube from the crotch of the bible belt ever prayed from the heart of being.

billy on January 13, 2012 at 9:16 PM

I would have answered to the positive just to watch the haters heads pop. What a hilarious bunch you are with all of your bigotry ,nastiness, and hatefulness.

CW on January 13, 2012 at 9:17 PM

God helps people by letting us live! By keeping our hearts pumping & lungs working.
God may be giving Tebow extra blessings. We’d have to ask God, I guess.
:)

Said one Colorado pastor to TMZ last month, “It’s not luck. Luck isn’t winning 6 games in a row. It’s favor. God’s favor.” That was published on December 15; the Broncos lost three in a row starting the following Sunday.

Those 3 games weren’t needed; the Broncs still backed into the playoffs.

And the losses made Tebow’s roller-coaster drama more exciting…

Down:
Doctors advise Momma Tebow to abort; her life’s in danger, & the baby will be malnourished.

Up:
Healthy baby, healthy mom. Tim becomes athletic hero throughout school years.

Down:
Tebow has no chance, say the experts, to succeed as a pro.

Up:
Drafted by a coach who believes in him.

Down:
Coach fired; new coach despises him.

Up:
Starting QB stinks up the place; desperate coach willing to put Tebow in because, at 1-4, he’s got nothing to lose, & he’ll appease the angry Denver mobs.
Tebow goes 7-1!

Down:
Tebow goes 0-3 to end season.

Up:
Tebow gets a lot of 3:16s in amazing performance against one of the leagues best defenses.

Who knows what happens next week? Only God.

itsnotaboutme on January 13, 2012 at 9:18 PM

kastor on January 13, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Christians’ Capitalize GOD you worthless heathen. And for the record almost all Christians don’t believe that God is “making” Tim Tebow win ball games. But if you care to keep mocking God, I, (and Tim) will pray for your sin.

Rovin on January 13, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Ridiculous. God doesn’t care about who wins or loses Football games. He does however care for the people who are on the team.

portlandon on January 13, 2012 at 9:18 PM

kastor on January 13, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Same 43% that believe in ‘creationism’.
Little Timmy will be worshiping at the alter of Brady by the end of Saturday night.
bayam on January 13, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Brady is one of the best. This could very well be the end of this season for the Broncos.
I predict that a Denver loss will not alter Tim’s relationship with God, one iota.
I also predict that a Denver loss will not alter the ‘absence of a relationship’ between either one of you and God, one iota.
If New England wins (or loses) you’re both still gonna burn in Hell fire.

listens2glenn on January 13, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Who knows what happens next week? Only God.

itsnotaboutme on January 13, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Amen! +1

Rovin on January 13, 2012 at 9:21 PM

What percent of God’s omnipotence would it take to make Denver win? 0.00000000000000001%?

SouthernGent on January 13, 2012 at 9:21 PM

I have to laugh at all the people trying to pair him up with low lifes. First there is Katy Perry who is still married to that disgusting person Brand and who acts like a slut. Second, there is Tiger Woods. Third, there are all those playboy bunny bimbos…

Run, Tim, run!

Blake on January 13, 2012 at 9:21 PM

Brady is Satan. I hope he fails. And flails.

carbon_footprint on January 13, 2012 at 9:22 PM

I can’t believe I can’t find a picture of Jesus Tebowing. I’m disappointed in you, internets.

ZGMF_Freedom on January 13, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Yes, but this is even better.

cynccook on January 13, 2012 at 9:23 PM

I also predict that a Denver loss will not alter the ‘absence of a relationship’ between either one of you and God, one iota.
If New England wins (or loses) you’re both still gonna burn in Hell fire.

listens2glenn on January 13, 2012 at 9:20 PM

And I predict that Tebow will bring more people closer to God. That is the real fear of these haters.

CW on January 13, 2012 at 9:23 PM

As Deadspin noted at the time, those are poignant sentiments coming from a QB whose career isn’t likely to last long due to all the hits he takes while scrambling. Hopefully he’ll endure, but if not, I know what he can fall back on. How about national chairman of the Make-a-Wish Foundation?

When his career is over (whenever that is), Tim Tebow will be able to go back to FLA, and make millions in business. There are thousands of businessmen there who would love to take Tebow on as a partner, if for no other reason than to say to prospective investors/clients/customers: “Say, I’d like you to meet our partner in this venture, Tim Tebow. Do you remember him? Played a little ball for the Gators. Yes, we like him also.”

The kid’s future is made, and he can chalk it up in large part to character.

JohnGalt23 on January 13, 2012 at 9:25 PM

And I predict that Tebow will bring more people closer to God. That is the real fear of these haters.

CW on January 13, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Nailed it!

MontanaMmmm on January 13, 2012 at 9:26 PM

I predict that atheists will continue to piss off believers and believers will continue to piss off atheists.

carbon_footprint on January 13, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Hey,oddmanout ? Care to disprove creationism for us.

I cannot prove that creationism does not exist. I cannot prove a negative. The burden of proof rests on the person making the claim. James Randi made an excellent speech about this-I suggest you watch it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWJTUAezxAI

theoddmanout on January 13, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Out of the fullness of the heart, the mouth confesses.

tom daschle concerned on January 13, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Who knows what happens next week? Only God.

itsnotaboutme on January 13, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Only God and Las Vegas.

JohnGalt23 on January 13, 2012 at 9:28 PM

New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady may not need the help, but some witches are planning to cast a spell to put an end to Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow’s miraculous season.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/01/13/mass-witches-assembling-to-end-tim-tebows-season-keep-tom-bradys-alive/

ZGMF_Freedom on January 13, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Tim Tebow getting support from Jockey underwear.

SouthernGent on January 13, 2012 at 9:30 PM

I am an athiest. But the level of vitriol spewed toward this dude is staggering and makes me sad. In a league that is chock full of selfish, entitled a55holes Tebow is the one to get all the hate.
And for what?

Anton on January 13, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Yes, but this is even better.

cynccook on January 13, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Sniper cat is not impressed.

ZGMF_Freedom on January 13, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Christians’ Capitalize GOD you worthless heathen. And for the record almost all Christians don’t believe that God is “making” Tim Tebow win ball games. But if you care to keep mocking God, I, (and Tim) will pray for your sin.

Rovin on January 13, 2012 at 9:18 PM

You need prayer as much as anyone.
No one is “worthless”. The Lord Jesus died for his soul.
Please show some compassion for lost souls. That’s what Christians do.

itsnotaboutme on January 13, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Seems like a good guy and all, but never have I seen so much hype surround such a lousy quarterback. I doubt he’s the starter past 8 games next season.

Arnold Yabenson on January 13, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Pleeeez … this reminds me of all the nitwit MLB players who gaze and point skyward when something good happens to them or their team. Funny, I never see their middle finger go up when something good happens for the other team. Stop acting so special–if God’s doing it, why’re they taking the credit? and what do we need them for?

stukinIL4now on January 13, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Brady is Satan. I hope he fails. And flails.

carbon_footprint on January 13, 2012 at 9:22 PM

That’s messed up.
Though I was cheering for Tebow, it was good to see Big Ben play well last Sunday despite being injured.
It’s a game! Lighten up. Brady is not Satan.

itsnotaboutme on January 13, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Read this: On kneeling and prayer (found it in another blog):

Kneeling to pray – What is the significance?

Kneeling to pray has been practiced for centuries. Some of the questions that we may have in our minds about prayerful positions may be:

How kneeling to pray began?
Is kneeling required by God?
Can kneeling be found in the Bible?
Did Jesus ever kneel to pray?

One thought about the origin of kneeling to pray comes from the practice of kneeling before a king in petition for a request. This tradition was a symbol of humbleness and honor when coming before a king or ruler. In recognition and honor to God, it may have been the appropriate position to come before Him.

The Bible shows us many positions for prayer. We read in the Bible that Jesus did kneel when He prayed. Jesus was accompanied by His disciples as they prayed on the Mount of Olives. There were also times He prayed in a standing position as the disciples asked Him to teach them how to pray. Jesus instructed them in what we call the Lord’s Prayer (Matthew 6:9-13). “There he told them, ‘Pray that you will not be overcome by temptation.’ He walked away, about a stone’s throw, and knelt down and prayed” (Luke 22:40-41).

Sometimes prayer is spontaneous and takes a variety of physical positions. All of these examples illustrate acceptable ways of prayer. Scripture commands us to proclaim God’s greatness by means of our bodies. Here are a few additional examples of ways God is pleased with our worship.

Some danced and sang their prayers as Miriam did (Exodus 15:20).
The Israelites bowed their heads in gratitude and worship (Exodus 12:27).
Job fell to the ground to petition God (Job 1:20).
The Levites stood and praised the Lord with a loud shout (2 Chronicles 20:19).
“For the choir director: A psalm of the descendants of Korah. Come, everyone, and clap your hands for joy! Shout to God with joyful praise!” (Psalm 47:1).
“Come, let us worship and bow down. Let us kneel before the LORD our maker” (Psalm 95:6).
“Praise his name with dancing, accompanied by tambourine and harp” (Psalm 149:3). “So wherever you assemble, I want men to pray with holy hands lifted up to God, free from anger and controversy” (1 Timothy 2:8).

We see clapping, shouting, kneeling, dancing, playing instruments, standing in awe, raising hands, and lying down. Clearly all these actions are acceptable and appropriate in the worship of God. God is pleased and hears our prayers no matter how we pray. The important thing is that we come to Him in humbleness with a sincere heart and not in a showy fashion.

Read more: http://www.allaboutprayer.org/kneeling-to-pray-faq.htm#ixzz1jOc6n2u0

ProudPalinFan on January 13, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Allahpundit, I pray for you every day so you can have your epiphany and finally get down with God, instead of trying to nibble around the edges of imagining what the faithful in general (and Tim Tebow in particular) experience in Him.

disa on January 13, 2012 at 9:36 PM

And now for a little religious music:

Oh when the Saints…..go marching home, oh when the Saints go marching home…..the folks at Candlestick will be rejoicing…..when the Saints go marching home.

They don’t call us Niner fans “the faithful” for nothing. :)

Rovin on January 13, 2012 at 9:36 PM

You need prayer as much as anyone.
No one is “worthless”. The Lord Jesus died for his soul.
Please show some compassion for lost souls. That’s what Christians do.

An omniscient God had to sacrifice himself to himself by impregnating a virgin in order to be born human so he could ritualistically be killed and sacrificed on earth to save us from himself.

~anonymous

Pablo Honey on January 13, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Brady is not Satan.

itsnotaboutme on January 13, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Um, yes he is. He hawks cheap cologne at Wal*Mart. That is satanic. :)

carbon_footprint on January 13, 2012 at 9:38 PM

itsnotaboutme on January 13, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Down

Zetterson on January 13, 2012 at 9:38 PM

never have I seen so much hype surround such a lousy quarterback. I doubt he’s the starter past 8 games next season.

Arnold Yabenson on January 13, 2012 at 9:34 PM

122 passer rating last week.

8-4 record, including 1-0 in the playoffs. With a team that had been 1-4.

Leadership, ability to avoid sacks like no one else, running back skills, excellent TD/int ratio, 4th quarter thrills.

Lousy?

itsnotaboutme on January 13, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Why is it that merely typing the phrase “Well actually I’m a libertarian…” seems to impart in some people a sense that he can feel free to be a smug, self-righteous pr!ck?
I swear, so-called libertarians are more self-satisfied and holier-than-thou than the hardest bible-thumping, snake-handling, holy rolling, rube from the crotch of the bible belt ever prayed from the heart of being.

billy on January 13, 2012 at 9:16 PM

THIS, a thousand times this.

fossten on January 13, 2012 at 9:38 PM

I need a daily fix on Tim Tebow; what I don’t get is why is on the down-low that there was a halo on top of Mile High Stadium after the first field goal kick.

Here’s the link for the pictures. Discernment, make of that what you will. Can’t wait for tomorrow’s game.

ProudPalinFan on January 13, 2012 at 9:38 PM

OH, my bad, Bradky is Satan, not Brady.

carbon_footprint on January 13, 2012 at 9:39 PM

An omniscient God had to sacrifice himself to himself by impregnating a virgin in order to be born human so he could ritualistically be killed and sacrificed on earth to save us from himself.

~anonymous

Pablo Honey on January 13, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Dumbest thing I’ve ever read.

fossten on January 13, 2012 at 9:40 PM

I need a daily fix on Tim Tebow; what I don’t get is why is on the down-low that there was a halo on top of Mile High Stadium after the first field goal kick.

Here’s the link for the pictures. Discernment, make of that what you will. Can’t wait for tomorrow’s game.

ProudPalinFan on January 13, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Wow, that is actually a natural weather phenomenon where a warm column of air forms the “halo” within the very cold atmosphere. Kind of rare though.

carbon_footprint on January 13, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Dumbest thing I’ve ever read.

fossten on January 13, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Some of the dumbest things I have ever read always come from Pablo Honey.

carbon_footprint on January 13, 2012 at 9:42 PM

never have I seen so much hype surround such a lousy quarterback. I doubt he’s the starter past 8 games next season.

Arnold Yabenson on January 13, 2012 at 9:34 PM

122 passer rating last week.

8-4 record, including 1-0 in the playoffs. With a team that had been 1-4.

Leadership, ability to avoid sacks like no one else, running back skills, excellent TD/int ratio, 4th quarter thrills.

Lousy?

itsnotaboutme on January 13, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Well … OK … it’s just … sometimes when he throws the ball, it looks like I’m throwing the ball — like the two ends of the football are trying to flap their way to the receiver. :)

But that’s the story, you know?

He keeps winning.

Axe on January 13, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Tebow 2024?

Can we look the other way and “deem him passed?” After all, he was not born in the US.

ProudPalinFan on January 13, 2012 at 9:44 PM

I don’t know how anyone can root against this guy.

I’m with you AP. And yet behold.

Anton on January 13, 2012 at 9:44 PM

itsnotaboutme on January 13, 2012 at 9:32 PM

You are totally right, and I humbly stand kneel corrected….no one is worthless in the Lords eyes.

Rovin on January 13, 2012 at 9:45 PM

122 passer rating last week.

8-4 record, including 1-0 in the playoffs. With a team that had been 1-4.

Leadership, ability to avoid sacks like no one else, running back skills, excellent TD/int ratio, 4th quarter thrills.

Lousy?

itsnotaboutme on January 13, 2012 at 9:38 PM

If you’re going to quote passer rating, he was 28th in the league, behind such NFL Hall of Fame hopefuls as Colt McCoy. Broncos backed their way into the play-offs, losing their last 3, including getting routed by Buffalo. No, seriously, Buffalo.

Couldn’t manage a touchdown… at home… on the final game of the season… against Kansas City… knowing that a win would put them in the playoffs, and a loss would give the Raiders control of their destiny.

Kudos to him for the Pittsburgh game. Pittsburgh played the game with their safeties lined up in the Denver backfield. Tebow managed to burn them for it. Fortunately for Pat fans, Belichick isn’t that stupid, and the world will be wondering what happened to the second coming of Fran Tarkenton next week.

Arnold Yabenson on January 13, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Christians’ Capitalize GOD you worthless heathen. And for the record almost all Christians don’t believe that God is “making” Tim Tebow win ball games. But if you care to keep mocking God, I, (and Tim) will pray for your sin.
Rovin on January 13, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Ummm who gives a shit what Christians do?? god god god god god god god god god god god god god god. I like it better not capitalized you worthless weirdo.

Zetterson on January 13, 2012 at 9:48 PM

About the halo: Not only weather (I guess), this guy claims it was fireworks:

It wasn’t a halo. I was at the game. After Denver scores pyrotechni­cs are shot out of a cylinder in the south end zone. A smoke ring came off the cylinder then floated over the stadium for as long as it take a smoke ring to dissipate. If Tebow was smoking a cigar and bloew smoke rings would those be “halos” too. Not all Bronco fans are fanaticall­y religious, and some of us now what a smoke ring is!

Like I wrote, discernment and look up. Still creepy.

ProudPalinFan on January 13, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Arnold Yabenson on January 13, 2012 at 9:46 PM

You’re most likely right about the fate of the Broncos against the Pats, but no one thought the Saints would lose to Seattle either:

They became the first team with sub-.500 record to not only clinch a playoff berth, but also win a division title and a playoff game in a non-strike season. NO – Drew Brees – 39/60, 404 yards
SEA – Matt Hasselbeck – 22/35, 272 yards

Funny how that game worked out.

Rovin on January 13, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Wow, I’ve never in all these years been “first” before. Is there a booby prize? How about a Tebow bobble head doll?

Rovin on January 13, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Nope, sorry. The delivery was switched to a siding and hijacked.
Oddly enough though, Bishop has some on e-bay at a decent price.

katy the mean old lady on January 13, 2012 at 9:58 PM

I have a thought…I hope it comes out right.

If God wanted to show he exists to as many non God fearing people as he could, what might he (more accurately it but I digress) do? Might he use a willing vessel to do something completely improbable in such a way that those who did not believe might begin to? So if you take a team and a QB who by all rights should have done nothing and use the story to draw attention to yourself might that reach millions and force millions more to read/talk/contemplate the existence of God? Just thinking that it would not be a horrible way to get folks to sit up and take notice.

On a side note the universe itself is lending itself more towards the notion of SOME outside force at the beginning of time. Unlike was previously believed the solar systems/galaxies are not slowing down their movement away from each other as one would assume in an eternal contract/expand cycle. Rather, they are very slowly speeding up their movement away from each other with something filling in the void currently called dark matter. One of the most basic rules/laws of physics is that you cant not get something from nothing. A change in state is something. I will wait for a better topic to really get into it but it is fun to watch atheists rail against any higher power while clinging to a faith in a something for nothing start to the existence of everything.

sorry about the length.

airmonkey on January 13, 2012 at 10:02 PM

May Jesus help Tim Tebow to defeat the evil Patriots and my Texans beat the Baltimore Felons so that Houston can host the AFC Championship game

Amen

LiberalGenius on January 13, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Christopher Hitchens should now be best qualified to answer that question whether God is helping Tebow. Chris?

Egfrow on January 13, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Anyone gets hit, sing out. Slap iron to it. It’s the fastest way to stop the blood.

Axe on January 13, 2012 at 10:08 PM

I honestly don’t know who Tim Tebow is, and I don’t care…all I know is that no idiot that gets paid a lot of money to play a game should get this much attention.

MadisonConservative on January 13, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Tim Tebow is a good man, a developing QB in the NFL and an enigma in a sport that often excuses and celebrates really talented and really evil people (ie Michael Vick, Ray Lewis, etc.) Tebow is maddening to so many because his inner strength comes from his belief in God and not the approval of a mercurial, easily manipulated hostile sports media or the clones that follow that media. Regardless of the outcome of the game, what truly brings joy to Tebow’s life will not have changed. Can his critics say the same?

HatfieldMcCoy on January 13, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Do you know the definition of the word “irony” MadisonCon?

=P

airmonkey on January 13, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Christopher Hitchens should now be best qualified to answer that question whether God is helping Tebow. Chris?

Egfrow on January 13, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Talk to dust often?

M240H on January 13, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Why is it that merely typing the phrase “Well actually I’m a libertarian…” seems to impart in some people a sense that he can feel free to be a smug, self-righteous pr!ck?
I swear, so-called libertarians are more self-satisfied and holier-than-thou than the hardest bible-thumping, snake-handling, holy rolling, rube from the crotch of the bible belt ever prayed from the heart of being.

I was called a liberal. Biggest insult of my life! I had to be an idiot back. If you had noticed my irony I was responding to someone who’s user name SAYS HE’S A LIBERTARIAN. I guess the jokes don’t sink in well around here…

kastor on January 13, 2012 at 10:23 PM

joy to Tebow’s life will not have changed. Can his critics say the same?

HatfieldMcCoy on January 13, 2012 at 10:16 PM

From their tone I really doubt some of the critics on this thread have much joy.

CW on January 13, 2012 at 10:23 PM

…I hope it comes out right.

If God wanted to show he exists to as many non God fearing people as he could, what might he (more accurately it but I digress) do? Might he use a willing vessel to do something completely improbable in such a way that those who did not believe might begin to? So if you take a team and a QB who by all rights should have done nothing and use the story to draw attention to yourself might that reach millions and force millions more to read/talk/contemplate the existence of God? Just thinking that it would not be a horrible way to get folks to sit up and take notice.

On a side note the universe itself is lending itself more towards the notion of SOME outside force at the beginning of time. Unlike was previously believed the solar systems/galaxies are not slowing down their movement away from each other as one would assume in an eternal contract/expand cycle. Rather, they are very slowly speeding up their movement away from each other with something filling in the void currently called dark matter. One of the most basic rules/laws of physics is that you cant not get something from nothing. A change in state is something. I will wait for a better topic to really get into it but it is fun to watch atheists rail against any higher power while clinging to a faith in a something for nothing start to the existence of everything.

sorry about the length.

airmonkey on January 13, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Thanks airmonkey it came out just right!

MontanaMmmm on January 13, 2012 at 10:28 PM

“Lord put a wall of protection around me and my teammates today, and we go out there and we can honor you with everything we do and say. I love you in Jesus’ name.”

I have ASKED for such a wall (or bubble) of protection and any of you can do it-over your house, your cars, your kids, the pets, yourself-hope this is not taken out of context. This is nothing new, very easy to do but it can take some practice before mastering it. For the tougher spirituals like me, I prefer an armor :)

Pray for safe long trips, for the aircraft you’re flying to be steady all the way, or even before the nasty TSA check-in. Pray for extra strength for your guardian angels and heh, ask for more! Thank God I don’t have to deal with strollers/babies. Dismantle everything and put it together again.

I took time to read Timothy 1 and 2 last night-it was a breeze. He was named after this chapter on the Bible, and his mission is right there-because his dad asked God and prayed to God for Tim to live, and make him a preacher. Hate to be a Bible quoter, but lately I have turned to Scripture for messages to feed my soul.

Now I have read that Bible verse for a long time; Jesus Himself said otherwise:

Matthew 21:22 “If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.”

Matthew 10:32-33 32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.

ProudPalinFan on January 13, 2012 at 10:29 PM

itsnotaboutme on January 13, 2012 at 9:32 PM

You are totally right, and I humbly stand kneel corrected….no one is worthless in the Lords eyes.

Rovin on January 13, 2012 at 9:45 PM

It’s rare for someone to admit error via the anonymity of the interwebs. Hats off to ya.

itsnotaboutme on January 13, 2012 at 10:30 PM

I’m enjoying all the Tebow videos – some amateur and some professional. There is a film about the draft pick on youtube called Everything In Between is pretty good.

Blake on January 13, 2012 at 10:30 PM

kastor on January 13, 2012 at 9:04 PM
Christians’ Capitalize GOD you worthless heathen. And for the record almost all Christians don’t believe that God is “making” Tim Tebow win ball games. But if you care to keep mocking God, I, (and Tim) will pray for your sin.
Rovin on January 13, 2012 at 9:18 PM

I’m not a christian, thank the gods, so I don’t capitalize your invisible space man’s name. While you’re praying for my sin, pray also for me to have huge pectoral muscles right after you pray for him/her/it to feed all the starving people of the world.

kastor on January 13, 2012 at 10:33 PM

kastor on January 13, 2012 at 10:33 PM

From their tone I really doubt some of the critics on this thread have much joy.

CW on January 13, 2012 at 10:23 PM

CW on January 13, 2012 at 10:34 PM

airmonkey on January 13, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Thanks airmonkey it came out just right!

MontanaMmmm on January 13, 2012 at 10:28 PM

If you were looking for an elaborate rationalization for parking your lumpy butt in front of the idiot box all weekend, yep, that’s “just right”.

M240H on January 13, 2012 at 10:34 PM

I was called a liberal. Biggest insult of my life! I had to be an idiot back. If you had noticed my irony I was responding to someone who’s user name SAYS HE’S A LIBERTARIAN. I guess the jokes don’t sink in well around here…

kastor on January 13, 2012 at 10:23 PM

I’m not a christian, thank the gods, so I don’t capitalize your invisible space man’s name. While you’re praying for my sin, pray also for me to have huge pectoral muscles right after you pray for him/her/it to feed all the starving people of the world.

kastor on January 13, 2012 at 10:33 PM

I’m a bit confused. Which post were you joking about again?

Rovin on January 13, 2012 at 10:43 PM

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