New AFP ad: You want to talk about layoffs? Let’s talk about Solyndra, then

posted at 7:42 pm on January 13, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via Jake Tapper, who notes that this is conveniently timed to complicate any opportunistic Democratic messaging on Romney’s Bain record and that the spot is not, shall we say, strictly accurate in all its particulars. The Obama quote at the end, for instance, is truncated to make it sound like he’s talking about Solyndra specifically rather than Energy’s green-loans program generally.

Not sure about these objections, though:

The ad depicts the president as giving “Solyndra half a billion in taxpayer money. Politics as usual. Within the administration, the company’s potential collapse had long been discussed. Knowing all along Solyndra would have to fire their workers. But Solyndra held off until after the 2010 elections.”

That White House officials “knew all along” that Solyndra would have to fire their workers isn’t true. The ad is referring to an email released two months ago indicating that an adviser to the company’s main investor, Argonaut Equity, wrote on Oct. 30, 2010, that officials from the Department of Energy “did push very hard for us to hold our announcement” of layoffs “to Nov. 3rd – oddly they didn’t give a reason for that date.”…

The ad says: “1,100 workers had no idea that they would be fired, but the Obama administration knew. All that mattered was the 2010 election – ‘optics,’ not workers.”

While it may be that White House officials wanted the announcement to be made after the November 2010 elections – the only proof of that is that one e-mail, and the White House denies the charge — the layoffs that were announced were not as AFP describes. What is true: the day after the 2010 elections, on November 3, Solyndra announced it would lay end its contracts with more than 100 contractors, lay off 40 employees, and close one of its factories.

In other words, there were two rounds of layoffs — one, involving a small number of workers, right after the midterm election and then a purge of the entire workforce last August once the company finally went bust. The ad slyly conflates the two by hinting that the White House knew all along that second, massive round of layoffs was coming when really it only knew about the first. And even in that case, the only evidence we have that they knew is an e-mail from a Solyndra investor claiming that they did.

Or at least, that was the only evidence until today. New from Bloomberg:

The Obama administration knew before the 2010 election that Solyndra LLC, a solar-panel maker that received a $535 million U.S. loan guarantee, planned to fire workers, according to e-mails released today.

The messages don’t indicate that anyone from the White House directed Solyndra to delay announcing the layoffs until after the vote. Previously released e-mails, indicating the Energy Department urged Solyndra to postpone the cuts, have been cited by House Republicans who say politics influenced Solyndra’s award and last-ditch rescue bid that put taxpayers behind $75 million in private investment.

“Here’s the deal — Solyndra is going to announce they are laying off 200 of their 1200 workers,” Heather Zichal, a White House adviser, wrote to Carol Browner, then director of the office of Energy and Climate Change Policy, and other officials on Oct. 27, 2010. “No es bueno.”

That’s the first evidence that I’m aware of corroborating the bombshell claim from November that anyone inside the administration knew the layoffs were coming. It doesn’t prove that the White House, let alone the Energy Department, actually pressured Solyndra to hold off on the layoffs until after the election, but the White House had a much more obvious interest in preventing a Republican takeover of the House than some federal agency did. Can’t wait to see what the next Friday afternoon document dump brings!

As for the claim that the White House knew “all along Solyndra would have to fire their workers,” it’d be more accurate to say that they should have known much, much earlier, certainly long before they threw millions more into this sinkhole as part of a restructuring to try to keep it afloat. Remember, PricewaterhouseCoopers was ringing alarm bells about Solyndra’s viability in early 2010, months before Obama went out to the plant for his big green-jobs photo op. Months before that, one of Solyndra’s own investors was wondering why the federal government would throw more than half a billion dollars at a risky solar venture that wasn’t even pulling in revenues of $100 million a year. And months before that, OMB employees were complaining that the White House was rushing them to hurry up and approve the loan so that Obama could go get his picture taken already. So no, they didn’t necessarily “know” that Solyndra’s workers would all end up being laid off. They simply didn’t think much about it at all because they were too keen on impressing the left with their astounding generosity towards green companies, especially green companies whose big investors included top Obama bundlers. Much better, no? The pushback here from the White House, I take it, will be that not every investment succeeds and that they shouldn’t be judged solely by the turkeys on their balance sheet. To which Mitt Romney, alleged cold-hearted layoff specialist, replies: Exactly.

A $6 million ad buy for this, by the way. Coming soon to a swing-state TV market near you.

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Republicans want to fight a class war fear battle? I don’t think you guys can win..

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:43 PM

fare**

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Alright!! Let’s out compete them in domestic subsidies!!

abobo on January 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Republicans want to fight a class war fear battle? I don’t think you guys can win..

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Class warfare? Nah. It’s about the incompetence layered upon the corruption.

Rational Thought on January 13, 2012 at 7:46 PM

lsm to start the 24/7 bashing of the afp and the koch brothers in 5…4…3…

civility and racism will be brought up natch

cmsinaz on January 13, 2012 at 7:47 PM

That’s gonna hurt.

mechkiller_k on January 13, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Republicans want to fight a class war fare battle? I don’t think you guys can win..

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:43 PM

No, conservatives want to let people earn whatever the hell they want, and not punish them for it.

Capitalism = Conservative.
Crony Capitalism = Obama/Libs/Democrats/RINOs.

Aizen on January 13, 2012 at 7:47 PM

This ad is about crony capitalism, not class warfare.

Obama = guilty as charged.

knob on January 13, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Thank God for Super PACs. About time we went on offense.

TXUS on January 13, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Alright!! Let’s out compete them in domestic subsidies!!

abobo on January 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM

You know another domestic subsidy that will end up in disaster?

Hiring Mitt Romney as president for four years.

$400,000 X 4 years = 1.6 million dollars flushed down the hole.

I’m not willing to subsidize that failure with tax dollars.

Dack Thrombosis on January 13, 2012 at 7:49 PM

It’s come to this.

Allendundit on January 13, 2012 at 7:51 PM

good ad….

cmsinaz on January 13, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Steer clear of class war fear if you want to have a shot at the Presidency you right wing nuts

It is just not going to work for Romney. He is worth over 250 million minus his dads inheritance. He has never been a middle class. He will lose big if he dares goes that route.

How many homes does he have again?

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:51 PM

One the ads come out with the truth about Obama, it’s over. The media has covered for him relentlessly.

BruthaMan on January 13, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Good ad. There’s such a plethora of Obama follies and frauds to choose from that it’s hard to know where to start!

whatcat on January 13, 2012 at 7:51 PM

that the spot is not, shall we say, strictly accurate in all its particulars

So what. It’s nothing near the disinformation, lies and crap just simply made up that comes from the DNC and the administration every single day.

I like it. The dems have taught us a good lesson.

He who gets their story out first, sets the plot.

BacaDog on January 13, 2012 at 7:52 PM

As for the claim that the White House knew “all along Solyndra would have to fire their workers,” it’d be more accurate to say that they should have known much, much earlier, certainly long before they threw millions more into this sinkhole as part of a restructuring to try to keep it afloat.

They either put politics and optics above taxpayers or they were incompetent. Take your pick. Or all of the above works, too.

SlaveDog on January 13, 2012 at 7:52 PM

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:51 PM

As long as you get your food stamps and section eight housing, right?

Hypocrisy and the liberal. Inseparable.

BruthaMan on January 13, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Republicans want to fight a class war fear battle? I don’t think you guys can win..

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:43 PM

it would have helped if you had watched the ad.

#FAIL

p.s…wrt the ads…More Please, Faster Please

r keller on January 13, 2012 at 7:52 PM

fare**

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Freudian slip, no?

SlaveDog on January 13, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Steer clear of class war fear
liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:51 PM

A very telling Freudian slip. I love the smell of fear in the morning.

whatcat on January 13, 2012 at 7:53 PM

The Obama administration knew before the 2010 election that Solyndra LLC, a solar-panel maker that received a $535 million U.S. loan guarantee, planned to fire workers, according to e-mails released today.

Why would anyone be surprised or doubt this? This is the same sort of thing that happened with Caterpillar and the Porkulus. Barky claimed that they had to get the Porkulus cash so that Caterpillar would rehire workers AS HE CLAIMED THE CEO TOLD HIM and the Caterpillar CEO came out the next day and totally contradicted it. Another bald-faced Barky lie. Didn’t matter. They shoved the Porkulus through, anyway, and Caterpillar fired more.

How much more of this will America take? Really. Because there ain’t much left, anymore.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 13, 2012 at 7:54 PM

How many homes does he have again?

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:51 PM

What difference does it make?

JPeterman on January 13, 2012 at 7:55 PM

…and that the spot is not, shall we say, strictly accurate in all its particulars.

But it does exceed the DWS standard for accuracy.

SlaveDog on January 13, 2012 at 7:56 PM

You know another domestic subsidy that will end up in disaster?

Hiring Mitt Romney as president for four years.

$400,000 X 4 years = 1.6 million dollars flushed down the hole.

I’m not willing to subsidize that failure with tax dollars.

Dack Thrombosis on January 13, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Romney has worked for 1$ per year before…

how does 1$ x 4 years = 4$ dollars

sound to you?

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on January 13, 2012 at 7:57 PM

I don’t get some of the comments here. How is this ad about class warfare?

earlgrey133 on January 13, 2012 at 7:58 PM

True, it takes a certain type to successfully engage in a destructive policy for purely political ends. Scumbags and socialists come to mind as being adept at it.

BL@KBIRD on January 13, 2012 at 7:59 PM

As for the claim that the White House knew “all along Solyndra would have to fire their workers,” it’d be more accurate to say that they should have known much, much earlier, certainly long before they threw millions more into this sinkhole as part of a restructuring to try to keep it afloat.

??? Wait, now I’m confused. I thought it was known that Obama knew of layoffs, and told them not to do it until after the 2010 elections. From WaPo:

The Obama administration, which gave the solar company Solyndra a half-billion-dollar loan to help create jobs, asked the company to delay announcing it would lay off workers until after the hotly contested November 2010 midterm elections that imperiled Democratic control of Congress, newly released e-mails show.

Or am I getting the timeline wrong?

Weight of Glory on January 13, 2012 at 7:59 PM

@^

fare**

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:44 PM

BL@KBIRD on January 13, 2012 at 8:00 PM

How many homes does he have again?

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:51 PM

As many as he wants and can afford. It’s the American way. Got it!

they lie on January 13, 2012 at 8:00 PM

I don’t think you guys can win..

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Sure we can.

As a detailed analysis of previous post-recession economies from Phil Gramm at the Wall Street Journal points out, if the current economic recovery did as well as the past 10 recoveries (post recession) since World War II, almost 12 million more people would be employed and our GDP would be on the fast track to recovery:

“On average, three years after the four deepest previous recessions started, real GDP was 7.6% higher than the pre-recession level. During the Obama recovery, real GDP is up only 0.1%. Forty months after the start of the 1953, 1957, 1973 and 1981 recessions, total employment was on average 4.7% higher than the pre-recession peaks, while total employment today is still down 4.7%—that’s a total employment gap of 13.9 million jobs.

In 1982, unemployment was at 10.8% and the Feds pursued a monetary policy to stop the risk of inflation. Today, after a year of what was supposed to be the recovery summer, jobless claims have risen and inflation is growing because the rise in consumer prices. The recovery we are having now is worse than the post-recession in the 80’s.

If we had matched the 1982 recovery rate, today annual per-capita income would be $4,154 higher than before the recession—that’s an extra $16,600 for a family of four—and some 15.7 million more Americans would have jobs. That’s enough jobs to employ 100% of the 13.5 million Americans currently classified as unemployed. In addition, we would have provided jobs for 30% of both the 2.4 million discouraged or marginally attached workers and the 4.8 million who have totally dropped out of the work force since January 2008.”

CW on January 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM

How many homes does he have again?

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Three, and not one of them is costing us taxpayers a dime. Your guy, well he and his wife have one big one payed for by us, their right, and another half payed for by a convicted felon. Yet, when you include the millions they spend on their non-stoppable vacation that is called a presidency, and on our dime, I guess they could’ve bought 20 or 30 huge mansions, in the finest enclaves in the world.

While I do not support Romney, your class warfare crap is so yesterday. You and getalife need to get a life.

TXUS on January 13, 2012 at 8:04 PM

I think the fact he has a few homes, must mean he knows how to make money. Your side knows how to squat in one and demand that we pay for it.

ThePrez on January 13, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Folks need to be educated about Solyndra (and a lot of other Obambi stuff!) because from what I’ve seen personally, the vast majority are completely oblivious about this fiasco.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 13, 2012 at 8:05 PM

liberal4life on January 13, 2012

Not only do you not know your history you seem to want to avoid the whole point of the post by Allahpundit.Why?

CW on January 13, 2012 at 8:05 PM

In spite of Allah’s analysis the ad is esentially true. And as you know in politics, mostly true is true enough.

NickDeringer on January 13, 2012 at 8:06 PM

TXUS on January 13, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Ouch,nice one two punch.

CW on January 13, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Solyndra and those car dealerships that were closed. What say you Mr. President?

ThePrez on January 13, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Republicans want to fight a class war fear battle? I don’t think you guys can win..

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Class warfare? Nah. It’s about the incompetence layered upon the corruption.

Rational Thought on January 13, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Rational Thought….this one has NONE of what your name detonates!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Obama is the “LAYEROFFER in Chief”.

One more layoff to go to start the real economic recovery.

November 6th, 2012, V-A Day!!!!

PappyD61 on January 13, 2012 at 8:09 PM

CBS News counted 12 clean energy companies that are having trouble after collectively being approved for more than $6.5 billion in federal assistance. Five have filed for bankruptcy: The junk bond-rated Beacon, Evergreen Solar, SpectraWatt, AES’ subsidiary Eastern Energy and Solyndra.

Nice work Mr. President.

CW on January 13, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Jan. 13 (Bloomberg) — Vestas Wind Systems A/S’s threat to fire 1,600 workers in the U.S. undermines President Barack Obama’s goal of creating green jobs and adds to pressure on Congress to extend a tax credit that the industry relies on.

You’re awesome.

CW on January 13, 2012 at 8:13 PM

How many homes does he have again?

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:51 PM

What difference does it make?

JPeterman on January 13, 2012 at 7:55 PM

uhhhhhhh!…JugEars has all his kickback money in off-shores, no one can trace. His money won’t even show up after November 2012, but he will start having to spend it by then. He may have mastered how to use his ATM card by then too!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2012 at 8:14 PM

While I do not support Romney, your class warfare crap is so yesterday. You and getalife need to get a life.

TXUS on January 13, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Class warfare is the new race card.

JPeterman on January 13, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Like it or not, we are all pawns in President Downgrades political games. We get to pay for it too. $5 trillion and counting…

shanimal on January 13, 2012 at 8:16 PM

This ad is RACIST!!
/

Fortunately, we seem to have gotten beyond that and now the real fight has begun..

katy on January 13, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Thank God for Super PACs. About time we went on offense.

TXUS on January 13, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Amen to that. I’m donating to whatever Super PAC produces the most devastating oppo ads.

Dump Obama 2012

The Count on January 13, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Class warfare is the new race another card.

JPeterman on January 13, 2012 at 8:15 PM

They`ll play the whole deck this year. The Race Card, The Homophobe Card, The Class War Card, The Anti-Woman Card……

ThePrez on January 13, 2012 at 8:18 PM

AWESOME!

MadisonianRombot on January 13, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Steer clear of class war fear if you want to have a shot at the Presidency you right wing nuts

It is just not going to work for Romney. He is worth over 250 million minus his dads inheritance. He has never been a middle class. He will lose big if he dares goes that route.

How many homes does he have again?

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Learn how to spell and then come back, moron.

fegerter on January 13, 2012 at 8:26 PM

the spot is not, shall we say, strictly accurate in all its particulars. The Obama quote at the end, for instance, is truncated to make it sound like he’s talking about Solyndra specifically rather than Energy’s green-loans program generally.

Get out of here! You mean it’s taken out of context? Why, I like to fire people who do that!

PatMac on January 13, 2012 at 8:29 PM

I don’t get some of the comments here. How is this ad about class warfare?

earlgrey133 on January 13, 2012 at 7:58 PM

Don’tworryaboutit 133!
We have one, that comes to drool here as often as he can!
When his bib gets saturated, you won’t see him anymore.
For example…you won’t see him in the thread below “A dance party for Obama!” or Ed’s 11:54AM piece…or many others. I guess that’s when he gets his diaper changed.
On some day’s he has an opportunity to drool a lot, on other days he seems to have a case of diahrrea, and the topics require him to be gone for extended lengths of time… for talcum powder to avoid a rash!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Why does the douchebag whistle when he talks? It’s utterly annoying.

SouthernGent on January 13, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Amen to that. I’m donating to whatever Super PAC produces the most devastating oppo ads.

The Count on January 13, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Yes, and a far more effective use of your money than giving it to the campaign or the RNC. What Obama and Soros and the unions don’t realize, there will be close to a billion spent by our own Super PACs this year, and every dollar will count. And, we’re talking players here who in the past kind of stayed out of the mix, thinking that they and the country would be okay no matter whether there was a D or an R in the White House. Obama, however, has turned some neutrals into patriots.

TXUS on January 13, 2012 at 8:33 PM

SouthernGent on January 13, 2012 at 8:33 PM

President Sibilant Esses.

SlaveDog on January 13, 2012 at 8:37 PM

You know another domestic subsidy that will end up in disaster?

Hiring Mitt Romney as president for four years.

$400,000 X 4 years = 1.6 million dollars flushed down the hole.

I’m not willing to subsidize that failure with tax dollars.

Dack Thrombosis on January 13, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Romney has worked for 1$ per year before…

how does 1$ x 4 years = 4$ dollars

sound to you?

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on January 13, 2012 at 7:57 PM

A little overpriced.

/Oh come on. You know I had to.

tom on January 13, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Amen to that. I’m donating to whatever Super PAC produces the most devastating oppo ads.

The Count on January 13, 2012 at 8:16 PM
Yes, and a far more effective use of your money than giving it to the campaign or the RNC. What Obama and Soros and the unions don’t realize, there will be close to a billion spent by our own Super PACs this year, and every dollar will count. And, we’re talking players here who in the past kind of stayed out of the mix, thinking that they and the country would be okay no matter whether there was a D or an R in the White House. Obama, however, has turned some neutrals into patriots.

TXUS on January 13, 2012 at 8:33 PM

+1

MontanaMmmm on January 13, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Isn’t Barry a big fan of military layoffs???

ndanielson on January 13, 2012 at 8:46 PM

1,100 layoffs won’t compare to when the Military has to clear out 80,000 Soldiers, Marines, and contractors to unemployment lines. They’ll figure out a way to make it 8.4% though with the Democratic magic calculator.

Egfrow on January 13, 2012 at 8:55 PM

This is a good ad. Romney should have used the Solyndra example all along. Bain would have done its due diligence and NOT invested in a company with net operating losses. The government? Taxpayers on the hook for half a billion dollars.

Maybe Mitt should release his tax returns and say “Over my 40 year career, I earned alot, but I’m still worth less than taxpayers lost on one Obama Bet, Solyndra.”

monalisa on January 13, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Maybe it’s just me but I find the message of this ad confusing. On the one hand it reminds us taxpayer dollars were spent to prop up a failed, possibly corrupt, green energy company whose principals were big Obama donors. So far so good. But the part about laying off employees kinda contradicts the crony capitalism message. Would it have been better if we loaned them even more money and kept them employed (albeit temporarily until the house of cards collapsed)?

Buy Danish on January 13, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Steer clear of class war fear if you want to have a shot at the Presidency you right wing nuts

It is just not going to work for Romney. He is worth over 250 million minus his dads inheritance. He has never been a middle class. He will lose big if he dares goes that route.

How many homes does he have again?

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:51 PM

*sniff* *sniff*

Anybody else smell desperation?

Flora Duh on January 13, 2012 at 8:58 PM

How many homes does he have again?

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Two. The same as Hillary and many of the Democrats in the Congress, but fewer than John Kerry.

Resist We Much on January 13, 2012 at 8:58 PM

This petulant hypocrite Obama, drenching himself as a man of the 99 percent, charges $35,000 per ticket to attend most of his fundraisers.

matthew8787 on January 13, 2012 at 8:59 PM

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Could you do us the favor of letting the drugs wear off before you come here to comment? It would really help for you to be cohenrent and on topic.

Shay on January 13, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Rational Thought….this one has NONE of what your name detonates!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2012 at 8:08 PM

What? Has RT been blowing stuff up again?

John the Libertarian on January 13, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Resist We Much on January 13, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Actually it’s 3 – NH, Mass, California. Meanwhile, many Americans far less wealthy than Mitt own 2 houses. It’s a stupid, meaningless metric.

BTW, this piece by Larry Kudlow is apropos to all these discussions of Romney.

Buy Danish on January 13, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Republicans should be united in hitting Obama hard at this – not taking each other apart siding with Obama and talking about Bain.

Let’s do this.

1punchWill on January 13, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Rational Thought….this one has NONE of what your name detonates!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2012 at 8:08 PM

What? Has RT been blowing stuff up again?

John the Libertarian on January 13, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Ha ha! You caught that JL…(not denotes)…I wanted to see if liberal4life would blow-up and catch it, and comment…he always hits and runs, but he went off already to get his diaper changed!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Great (related) article about the “worst economic recovery since the Great Depression:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/01/12/the-worst-economic-recovery-since-the-great-depression/

If we continue on this dizzying downward slope caused by Obama’s policies, we ain’t seen enough suffering yet.

onlineanalyst on January 13, 2012 at 9:46 PM

F*ck Dick-Tapper. This is a great ad and every word of it is true. Tapper is worried that if he doesn’t attack the ad loud enough, he won’t get invited to the right SOTU parties.

Jaibones on January 13, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Seeing how the donks deal in half truths, it’s high time we use their beloved alinsky bible to turn the tables to isolate, personalize, freeze and repeat again and again. Force Oboobi to defend his failures. While they’re running this, they need to produce one on fast n furious. Tell how ATF and Eric killed at least two and maybe 100 within the USA and at least 300 to as many as 2000 Mexicans. We don’t know for sure since the DOJ has been stalling on the truth, but the probabilities that the numbers are good is stronger than the AGW data.

After that ad is launched, pick another topic and alinskize it. Continue thru to election day. This will be fun to watch DWS’s head spin.

AH_C on January 13, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Republicans want to fight a class war fear battle? I don’t think you guys can win..

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:43 PM

That’s a non sequitur if I ever heard one.

NukeRidingCowboy on January 14, 2012 at 12:00 AM

The article did a lot of talking about being able to prove the administration “knew” the company was going bankrupt but that is only necessary in court. Not even democrats believe that the administration believe that. In the court of public opinion all doubts have been erased.

dunce on January 14, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Republicans want to fight a class war fear battle? I don’t think you guys can win..

liberal4life on January 13, 2012 at 7:43 PM

libs: “…We are, the 20%!!!!….”

BobUSMC on January 14, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Its sad that we need something like “superpacs” because our Congress is testicularly challenged, Justice is morally challenged and the media is intellectually challenged. If just one of them did the right thing they would drag the other two with them, eventually, with a lot of pouting and whining. I will leave the presidency out, I think they are doing/getting exactly what they want.

sammus on January 14, 2012 at 12:53 AM

I am totally OK with this ad. Obama will be running ads that are so deceptive that we need to use half truths or take things out of context too. We are going to be stuck with a weak moderate candidate so it will be up to Conservative superpacs to go after Obama and defeat him!!!

Fischstick on January 14, 2012 at 1:22 AM

But why are they (or is it HA) linking this to Romney?

Correct me if I’m wrong but the case Obama is going to make is he believes in “investing” spending in an effort to create jobs thru Public-Private partnerships. When Romney is the guy who takes the loan guarantees, the tax credits and the subsidies from those partnerships as way to gain the system and to make millions for his investors by cutting jobs.

I really don’t think AFP should be attacking just yet, let the guy make his case and attack him on that. Otherwise he’ll just put whatever you say on this matter it in a context of “Warrior of the middle class” vs “Warrior of WallStreet”

The sad thing is….no matter how you approach this, you don’t want to be talking about poor vs rich with Romney as your spokesman.

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on January 14, 2012 at 3:14 AM

Can.I.be.in.the.middle,

You might if, his rhetoric aside, you point out how the poor have actually fared during the Obama years.

Costa on January 14, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Hiring Mitt Romney as president for four years.

$400,000 X 4 years = 1.6 million dollars flushed down the hole.

I’m not willing to subsidize that failure with tax dollars.

Dack Thrombosis on January 13, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Oh my! Do you mean that Romney would earn $1.6 million of taxpayers money? In 8, er, I mean 4 years!

Vince on January 14, 2012 at 10:30 AM

nice! Exposes Obama’s hypocrisy. Go gettem!

DaMav on January 14, 2012 at 11:08 AM

@BobUSMC sed:

libs: “…We are, the 20%!!!!….”

ROFLMBO!

DaMav on January 14, 2012 at 11:14 AM

I don’t get some of the comments here. How is this ad about class warfare?
earlgrey133 on January 13, 2012 at 7:58 PM

**fare ..umm wait **fear

malkinmania on January 14, 2012 at 11:45 PM