Video: “Desperate”

posted at 11:00 am on January 12, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

With apologies to Frankie Goes to Hollywood, when two super-PACs go to war, one ain’t all that can score. As Conn Carroll remarks, Mitt Romney isn’t going to make the mistake in South Carolina that Newt Gingrich made in Iowa by not responding to attacks from an opponent’s super-PAC. If Gingrich and his backers wants to get into a food fight over character, Romney’s backers are more than willing to unpack some baggage themselves, as their new ad “Desperation” makes clear:

Restore Our Future, the super-PAC airing this ad in South Carolina, will also begin airing this in Florida at the same time. Gingrich has little likelihood of scoring a victory in South Carolina, but even if he did, he’d have to use all of his resources to get it. Romney’s backers can apparently afford to play a longer game, and will have the first word with Florida voters in a state that Gingrich would probably need more than South Carolina to stay alive in the race. Unlike the attacks from Gingrich and his supporters on Bain Capital, these particular charges against Gingrich hurt him in the early going of this race as part of the “baggage” commonly mentioned over the last year, language which the ad explicitly embraces, as well as the later issue of the $1.6 million from his supposed non-lobbying work for Freddie Mac. These attacks go to arguments of personal and political corruption rather than just the heartlessness alleged in Gingrich’s attacks on Bain.

Frankly, I’m a little surprised that Gingrich and/or his backers put himself in position for a character debate, but here we are indeed, and “desperation” is probably the reason.


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With apologies to Frankie Goes to Hollywood, when two super-PACs go to war, one ain’t all that can score.

Definitely an 80′s reference I could have done without there, Ed.

JohnGalt23 on January 12, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Mitt Romney’s idea of the “free market”

buying votes & endorsements.

35 Romney endorsers received contributions first.

tetriskid on January 12, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Add that to Clear Channel and Newt saying Romney is buying this election becomes clearer.

Go Newt and Go Perry!

workingclass artist on January 12, 2012 at 1:21 PM

And still, he does not respond to the issue of Bain.

What is he supposed to do, cry? Or give back his ill-gotten gains, like Newt suggested?

Romney doesn’t have to respond to the Bain attacks because they are not hurting him. The attacks are hurting Perry and Gingrich. Romney can respond to Obama’s Bain attacks if he makes it to the general election, and do it in a way that makes Obama look like a hypocrite. I think Romney is looking forward to Obama’s class warfare, because, right now, the evidence suggests that it will be ineffective at best, and at worst drag down the attacker.

Mr. Arkadin on January 12, 2012 at 1:26 PM

And still, he does not respond to the issue of Bain.

Actually, he is responding to it

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on January 12, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Add that to Clear Channel and Newt saying Romney is buying this election becomes clearer.

Go Newt and Go Perry!

workingclass artist on January 12, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Yes, down with the bourgeois!! Power to the People! Unite the working class! Fairness and equality for all!

Swerve22 on January 12, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Thank goodness McCain-Feingold got all the anonymous donors out of politics. BTW what is so super about a Super-PAC?

Ted Torgerson on January 12, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Went home on leave from AFG and hardly read any material from HA or other sites frankly…

It is interesting to still see many bashing Romney even though he is now proving as many Romney supporters on this site have been saying that his support is stronger than some have given him credit for.

As far as those saying he needs to explain his Bain bvackground. No he doesn’t. It is a legitimate business and he made his money like any other person who has a job in America. He was just very, very good at his job. We as conservatives believe (or I still think we do) in success of ALL Americans and a capitalistic society.

Also we need to get our vernacular correct. Bain is a private equity firm and not a venture capital firm. There is a difference. PE firms help infuse cash into companies that are either devalued or undervalued and the PE firm believes through their PRIVATE equity (not gov’t funding) that business still has “a shot” at succeeding. Since the company is investing its own funds it does all in its power to help it succeed and most of the time while Romney there it was very successful both to the benefit of Bain and the still running company.

Under Romney’s tenure, there were 17 of 77 businesses that went under and some of those were steel companies that almost NONE of those survived during that period as steel was being imported (by who?) with ridiculously low prices.

It is utterly disgusting to see Perry, Gingrich, and others go after Romney on capitalism! Attack on Romneycare or whatever but they are showing us a glimpse into their beliefs by attacking Romney on this issue.

Well, it is good to be back on HA. Glad to see some more Romney supporters on board and as I said 60-90 days ago if you TRULY look at Romney’s record it is NOT as many described it to be here or in the MSM.

g2825m on January 12, 2012 at 1:57 PM

35 Romney endorsers received contributions first

tetriskid on January 12, 2012 at 11:14 AM

So Romney was helping Republicans get elected while The Newtron was taking money from Freddie and Fannie.

We get it.

Gunlock Bill on January 12, 2012 at 2:04 PM

I was just watching CNN looks like Mitt Romney’s got a problem with his record on Abortion when he was Governor of Massachusetts. Evangelicals in South Carolina not so excited about a guy who helped out planned parenthood in Massachusetts. The climate in South Carolina isn’t being reported on, it’s being given media spin, and projected onto Fox News. Fox News and Fox Business are using straw-man against Romeny’s rivals that attack Mitt’s track record of job creation at Bain Capital is an attack on Capitalist system. CNN is reporting on Romney’s other problems. No fluffing just reporting.

Dr Evil on January 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM

You mean how Mass-care has resulted in fewer abortions?

Is that a problem for Evangelicals?

Gunlock Bill on January 12, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Remember, this is the new and improved Newt 2.0!

Now apparently with 20% more arrogance and bile free.

jnelchef on January 12, 2012 at 2:07 PM

So Romney was helping Republicans get elected while The Newtron was taking money from Freddie and Fannie.

We get it.

Gunlock Bill on January 12, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Romney never helped a single Republican get elected.

If you were actually a conservative you would know that.

He waited on the sidelines. Romney is famous for giving “endorsements” when is doesn’t matter.

After the 2010 elections we came & and paid out for future vote/endorsements. Or in Pawlenty’s case 2012 campaign debt.

But you wouldn’t know that because you are an Obama/Romney voter.

tetriskid on January 12, 2012 at 2:08 PM

You mean how Mass-care has resulted in fewer abortions?

Is that a problem for Evangelicals?

Gunlock Bill on January 12, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Typical Romney voter.

Rooting for more abortions.

tetriskid on January 12, 2012 at 2:09 PM

You mean how Mass-care has resulted in fewer abortions?

Is that a problem for Evangelicals?

Gunlock Bill on January 12, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Typical Romney voter.

Rooting for more abortions.

tetriskid on January 12, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Typical ABR voter.

Lack of reading comprehension skills.

Gunlock Bill on January 12, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Don’t forget he has a 25% ceiling!!!11

BAIN MONEY RICH UNELECTABLE BAIN MONEY RICH UNELECTABLE BAIN MONEY RICH UNELECTABLE!!!!1

These clowns wonder why Romney is clobbering them.

Swerve22 on January 12, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Can anybody think of an easier job than coming up with ads attacking Newt?

EddieC on January 12, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Typical ABR voter.

Lack of reading comprehension skills.

Gunlock Bill on January 12, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Your candidate donated to Planned Parenthood & gave them power on a state board.

& don’t ever mock my religion you bigot.

tetriskid on January 12, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Romney never helped a single Republican get elected.

If you were actually a conservative you would know that.

He waited on the sidelines. Romney is famous for giving “endorsements” when is doesn’t matter.

After the 2010 elections we came & and paid out for future vote/endorsements. Or in Pawlenty’s case 2012 campaign debt.

But you wouldn’t know that because you are an Obama/Romney voter.

tetriskid on January 12, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Tetris if you truly knew what you were talking about you would not have made that statement above.

Romney, MORE THAN ANY OTHER REPUBLICAN…except MAYBE Palin, helped Republicans of ALL types: Tea Party members and moderates, get elected in 2010. He backed Iowa Governor Barnstad with more money than ANY other Republican. He supported Gov Haley with huge amounts of cash and support and the same goes with Marco Rubio…I can go on and on and on.

Romney is a better conservative than MANY on HA give him credit for and this is what my complaints were with some of you on here that you do not do your homework. Even what is reported that you BELIEVE Romney said or did as reported BY OTHERS is false.

While I am at because it will be brought up in SC, Romney has ALWAYS been against abortion PERSONALLY. He supported Roe V Wade when he made his Senate/Gov run because that was the law of the land. He made the pro-life PUBLICLY change in 2005 and voted that way Governor with proof by signing pro-life legislation.

g2825m on January 12, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Romney never helped a single Republican get elected.

If you were actually a conservative you would know that.

He waited on the sidelines. Romney is famous for giving “endorsements” when is doesn’t matter.

After the 2010 elections we came & and paid out for future vote/endorsements. Or in Pawlenty’s case 2012 campaign debt.

But you wouldn’t know that because you are an Obama/Romney voter.

tetriskid on January 12, 2012 at 2:08 PM

From YOUR link

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley came out for Romney last month – a year after his Free and Strong America PACs funneled $36,000 to the Tea Party darling’s 2010 election bid. And 19 state and Washington, D.C., lawmakers in three Super Tuesday states – Georgia, Tennessee and Virginia — are backing Romney after his PAC poured a total of $125,500 into their coffers for elections held in 2009 and 2010.

Reading comprehension. Reading comprehension.

Gunlock Bill on January 12, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Gunlock Bill on January 12, 2012 at 2:20 PM

When did these Romney endorsements and payments happen?

Ohhhhhh…. context.

tetriskid on January 12, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Let’s see who’s desperate after ‘When Mitt Romney Came to Town’ is done exposing Romney as a corporate raider that gave capitalism a bad name in the 80′s.

PS- Whatever happened to the notion that the man with gravitas, not the man that ‘looks presidential’, should be our nominee?

Ed, as you pointed out, Mitt was to the left of the Obama administration’s EPA when Mitt imposed expensive regulations on Massachusetts power plants, then imposed price controls on those power plants.

Did you know, though, that Bain’s invested in carbon credit trading? When did that become a conservative core principle?

For over 2 years, conservatives like myself said that we should ignore anything President Obama said & base our opinions of him on what he does. Suddenly, it’s unfashionable to do the same with Mitt?

LFRGary on January 12, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Your candidate donated to Planned Parenthood & gave them power on a state board.

tetriskid on January 12, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Again, Ann Romney donated to PP ONCE and it was a small amount of around $100 or thereabouts. Mitt Romney DID NOT donate to PP.

He also vetoed many portions of the MA Healthcare bill that included the PP provisions but again his 85% DEM Legislature overrode his vetoes.

Homework my friends!

Romney is and WILL be a great POTUS. He is a great leader and no one better than him in the field knows how to turn around economic issues like him. This is why the Obama machine started to attack Romney and ONLY Romney as of 6 months ago. They say they want Romney but they truly do not want to face him against Obama’s record.

g2825m on January 12, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Typical Romney voter.

Rooting for more abortions.

tetriskid on January 12, 2012 at 2:09 PM

The number of abortions in Mass has gone down under Mass-care.

Is that a problem for your religion?

Gunlock Bill on January 12, 2012 at 2:29 PM

The number of abortions in Mass has gone down under Mass-care.

Is that a problem for your religion?

Gunlock Bill on January 12, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Typical Romney bigtot.

tetriskid on January 12, 2012 at 2:29 PM

When did these Romney endorsements and payments happen?

Ohhhhhh…. context.

tetriskid on January 12, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Seriously? Did you not read the above quotes from Bill? Romney, as I stated, helped candidates since 2008 get elected in 2010. These were contributions FROM Romney in 2008, 2009, 2010 and NOW they are returning the favor by their support and also knowing that he is THE best candidate.

Just FYI there are MANY candidates that he also helped during 2008-10 that did not support him so far and that is fine with Romney as well as his focus was getting Republicans elected in 2010.

g2825m on January 12, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Newt should make some ads attacking Obowma…

… and then make an add asking why Mittens isn’t attacking Obomwa.

Then Mitttens would have to answer with an add attacking Obowma…

… Then Perry would have to join in with an add attacking Obowma.

To stay in the game, Santorum would then have to start attacking Obowma…

Paul would still blame the US for all the problems in the world while running around in dirty pajamas, a torn robe, and one slipper…

The next thing you know, voters would be voting for who was turning Obowma into a pile of goo the best…

… then for the next 10 months, in State after State, every single add would have to out do earlier ads in attacking Obowma.

It’s what Obowma is going to do…

Seven Percent Solution on January 12, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Typical Romney bigtot.

tetriskid on January 12, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Quit while you’re only this far behind.

alchemist19 on January 12, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Ed, as you pointed out, Mitt was to the left of the Obama administration’s EPA when Mitt imposed expensive regulations on Massachusetts power plants, then imposed price controls on those power plants.

Did you know, though, that Bain’s invested in carbon credit trading? When did that become a conservative core principle?

For over 2 years, conservatives like myself said that we should ignore anything President Obama said & base our opinions of him on what he does. Suddenly, it’s unfashionable to do the same with Mitt?

LFRGary on January 12, 2012 at 2:23 PM

LFR,
I just wanted to point out to you that from your own articles that this is what it stated in one article that YOU and the author seemed to try to make a LEAP of a connection:
“Bain & Company has also worked in conjunction with the Chicago Climate Action Plan, Verdantix – Green Quadrant Climate Change Business Consulting, and even partnered with the Blackstone Group and NBC (whose parent company is GE) in 2008 to purchase the Weather Channel. The Blackstone Group is currently invested in carbon trading in the Czech Republic and other nations.”

Romney left Bain in 1999 to go fix the SLC Olympics (which he did nicely) and then was Gov of MA after that (which he did nicely) and so the ties to Climate Change and Bain in 2008 seems a bit of a stretch. Also the whole “green movement” did not really catch fire until about the last 6-8 years. Do not misconstrue that statement as I know the whole GW has been going on since the 90′s but the “green” push has only been in the last several years.

I also know Romney made the comment about GW BUT he also stated he did not want to spend trillions of dollars trying to see IF and WHAT extent man MAY have on climate change whereas Gingrich ADMITTED that man was responsible. Google Gingrich and Kerry Global Warming where Gingrich went even further than Kerry wanted on Gov’t involvement…and this was even in the last 2-3 years!!

g2825m on January 12, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Seven Percent Solution on January 12, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Seven…I am not sure if you have seen MANY of Romney’s ads attacking Obama CONSTANTLY. He has a TON of powerful ads at his website (mittromney.com) that he has been running during his campaign in certain states against Obama.

g2825m on January 12, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Here is that article I was speaking about with Gingrich and John Kerry on Global Warming funfest:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/10/AR2007041001457.html

g2825m on January 12, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Romney can respond to Obama’s Bain attacks if he makes it to the general election, and do it in a way that makes Obama look like a hypocrite. I think Romney is looking forward to Obama’s class warfare, because, right now, the evidence suggests that it will be ineffective at best, and at worst drag down the attacker.

Mr. Arkadin on January 12, 2012 at 1:26 PM

excellent analysis, Romney does not need to respond to Perry or Gingrich re: Bains, they are both non-entities at this point, and they shot themselves in the foot, I’d say beyond the point of recovery…he should save all the money for the ad fights that count…

jimver on January 12, 2012 at 2:48 PM

That’s the best Romney’s Wall Street corporate welfare money boys could come up with? Very weak, that wont hurt Newt a bit.

Looks to me that it is Romney that is desperate, going after the guy that came in 4th in NH…

georgealbert on January 12, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Duh….worked in Iowa, didn’t it.

rubberneck on January 12, 2012 at 2:50 PM

That’s the best Romney’s Wall Street corporate welfare money boys could come up with? Very weak, that wont hurt Newt a bit.

georgealbert on January 12, 2012 at 11:12 AM

with Newt’s showing so stellar in the polls, you’re right, it won’t make any difference :)…he’s out anyways :-)…but hey, why not help him a little on his way out :-)..and Romney’s ad does just that :-)

jimver on January 12, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Like Rush said a few days ago that Gingrich does not have a shot anymore and is only in this to try to tear down Romney. This is ONLY going to HURT Gingrich long term with the Republican Party.

We are being reminded again why we did not like him at the end of his term as Speaker as he went ballistic in this same manner (the blame everyone and angry Newt). He is showing his true character here again. He should have just stuck with the positive campaign and he likely would have fared better in polling.

g2825m on January 12, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Now this ad will spring Romney to the top of polls if he is not yet , but dare Newt bring some facts he will be at the bottom of the list, this election has been bought and paid for by Mitt. close the primaries wait for the General election and give Obama 4 more years.

evergreenland on January 12, 2012 at 2:57 PM

What a shock. An anti-Newt post. Don’t come across those too often at this site.

Reggie1971 on January 12, 2012 at 3:00 PM

I can not help being cynical about politicians behavior, were Romneys contributions to these other republicans made with an eye on the prize as a way of buying future support. He is a very smart man , an excellent planner, but i have great doubt that in his heart, his really a conservative. obama has had great success in his effort to change America for the worse. I will not be content with picking around the edges trying to fix this disaster and merely temporarily halting the leftward direction. I want a hard right turn and repeals,reversals, recissions, and deletions at full speed.

dunce on January 12, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Why are we noiminating Romney with his experience this is a country not a bank we dont need a banker the economy is not the only problem we are facing he will restructure the country like he did with those struggling companies give them the Bain treatment.

evergreenland on January 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM

“This is ONLY going to HURT Gingrich long term with the Republican Party.”

Why in hell should Newt care about that considering the unprecedented onslaught of bashing he took from that party’s establishment?

Reggie1971 on January 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Ed, You are so far in the tank that you resemble Mike Dukakis right now. I’ll be glad when the primary is done to at least get back to your valued objective opinion. For now we get it … Newt is the devil Romney is a great guy. Massage received loud and clear.

MarkCasper on January 12, 2012 at 3:04 PM

The ad says that the bill Newt sponsered with Nancy “would have given ” but it did not , while he passed and signed the Romneycare ad now we all are strapped with it.
His excuse for his libral style governing is that he had to deal with libral legislature so if we lost the house and with dem, senate he will do whatever they propose
.While Newt turned a dem house to Republican in 40 years he passed coservative bill inspite of dems.

evergreenland on January 12, 2012 at 3:14 PM

ED,

Are you getting graft in some manner from the Romney campaign that you are shilling so desperately for them?

In my opinion, your blog used to be a go to site for a NEUTRAL portrayal of the news.

Just prior to the IOWA caucus you jumped into the tank for Romney and are openly attacking all other candidates to the point of at times, misrepresenting the facts.

I am not interested in spending my valuable time on a blog that is a Romney echo chamber.

Furthermore, the vitriol and personal attacks between commenters has increased. HA is not the place for intelligent discussion.

Deleting you today from my RSS feed.

Sparky5253 on January 12, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Newt Gingrich is nothing but a pot-bellied socialist! He engaged in vicious anti-capitalism, Occupy Wall Street-style rhetoric as a way to try to damage Romney, but his pathetic attacks BACKFIRED. Now the serial adulterer/Freddie Mac lobbyist Newt Gingrich is the one getting burned!

Hey, Newt, you want to play with the big boys? Well, prepared to face the consequences. Newt, you have humiliated yourself time and again… I say you should take your pompous, blustery, annoying rude self somewhere far away because YOU HAVE NO CHANCE OF EVER BECOMING PRESIDENT! You would be a disaster as the nominee and would lose to Obama in a landslide.

GET LOST, LOSER NEWT!!

bluegill on January 12, 2012 at 3:39 PM

does anyone notice that hot air kinda hides the fact that newt’s attacks are working .they can keep the ball in the glove as long as they want but eventually they have to throw it and when they do it comes up romney’s got the upper hand . mitt’s an electoral loser and will allow obama to put into play states like texas and arizona and you can kiss NM and CO goodbye. romney thinks he can act on his immergration stance as obama does on his gay marriage take. with a wink. it will not work and obama will kill and i mean kill romney with the issue. sorry i forgot we’re not suppose to say kill.

rik on January 12, 2012 at 3:43 PM

romney thinks he can act on his immergration stance as obama does on his gay marriage take.

rik on January 12, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Ahem, I’m guessing you support Rick Perry. I’m not going to say why exactly I suspect that. Um, yeah. it’s just a guess.

bluegill on January 12, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Newt by far has more ethical lapses and baggage. It’s not even a contest.

scotash on January 12, 2012 at 3:55 PM

This is perfectly ok, but if anyone dares criticize Mitt you will be called a lefty traitor and are ruining him for the GE even though he has 12 delegates and Ron Paul has 10. that is the law. Obama will treat him with kit gloves and so should we. he is sensitive so back off.

boogaleesnots on January 12, 2012 at 3:58 PM

newt’s mistake is unlike romney his warts are there to see. maybe next time newt needs to marry a computer and when he leaves he can buy the hard drive and destroy it. Obama is just waiting to hit mitt with that little item. nothing to hide in hundreds of boxes of files destoyed by mitt. there was probably the game plan on how to beat a neophyte girl with less than 50%, the only election your unbeatable mitt has won. when had face a real opponent in deval he chickened out. mitt probably thinks of himself as james polk

rik on January 12, 2012 at 4:07 PM

This only vindicates Newt. Romney’s Ads were bought & paid before the Iowa caucus, content is not new so very likely pre Iowa.

Go Perry

mathewsjw on January 12, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Can anybody think of an easier job than coming up with ads attacking Newt?

EddieC on January 12, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Nope.

talkingpoints on January 12, 2012 at 4:50 PM

amen starlink . i live in the berkshires and live with romneycare.it sucks. and why wouldn’t it romney designed it

rik on January 12, 2012 at 5:46 PM

Because Newt says Mitt is timid doesn’t make it so. And Newt’s amplified hyperbole about Mitt is a moderate, ignores a conservative heritage that I won’t brooch now, except to renote that Mitt was the conservative choice of ’08.
And the ’08 Mitt was the Not McCain. — so — Mitt is… not McCain

anotherJoe on January 12, 2012 at 5:53 PM

Then step away from the mirror and turn around!

cartooner on January 12, 2012 at 12:27 PM

But, you’re standing behind me looking over my shoulder… That would be really scary…

SWalker on January 12, 2012 at 6:34 PM

I’m not as concerned with Newt’s personal baggage as I am with the 3 million duffel bags and backpacks brought in by the 3 million foreign invaders whom Newt wants to reward with their ill-gotten goods – residency in our country — via point 6 here.

fred5678 on January 12, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Why are we noiminating Romney with his experience this is a country not a bank we dont need a banker the economy is not the only problem we are facing he will restructure the country like he did with those struggling companies give them the Bain treatment.

evergreenland on January 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM

That made my gut sink.

fullogas on January 12, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Wouldn’t it be funny if Gingrich, Romney, and Perry all released so many negative ads that they all destroyed each other, and we saw the nomination going to a very surprised Santorum?

tom on January 13, 2012 at 3:11 AM

This ad is a beautiful thing and tells the truth about Gingrich. Serves the blustery, pompous unelectable Newt Gingrich right! Newt would be a disaster as the nominee.

I look forward to Mitt Romney giving Obama the boot this November!

GO MITT!

bluegill on January 13, 2012 at 6:42 AM

I agree that the tough ads are really doing Romney a favor in the general. No matter what constituency of the DNC attacks him later, one of the current Republican field will have done it already: Perry has crony capitalists and slack-jawed idiots covered, Newt handles the DC-insider sellout wh***s and hypocrites, Santorum corners the it’s-for-your-own-good-so-coercive-big-statism-is-OK caucus, and Paul is just bugnuts crazy (with just a touch of Judenhass).

I’d pay to see Gingrich debate Obama. I really believe the former Speaker would disassemble him, sort and label the pieces and toss them in the trash alphabetically. But he’s never going to get past this problem he has of being easily and predictably provoked into stupid actions… and his ego, Lord, his ego

DrSteve on January 13, 2012 at 2:16 PM

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