Romney on Bain’s layoffs: Obama did the same thing with the auto bailout, you know
posted at 5:26 pm on January 11, 2012 by Allahpundit
Rush Limbaugh unloaded on him today for saying this, but it is what it is. If you want Mitt Romney as your nominee, you’d better be prepared to make ideological compromises. Go re-read Dan McLaughlin’s piece yesterday for a refresher on that. Said Mitt:
“In the general election I’ll be pointing out that the president took the reins at General Motors and Chrysler — closed factories, closed dealerships laid off thousands and thousands of workers — he did it to try to save the business,” Romney said Wednesday on CBS.
Obama has publicly touted his plan to “retool and restructure” the auto companies as “an investment in American workers.” Romney was strongly opposed to the auto bailouts but on Wednesday likened the president’s strategy to his own.
“We also had the occasion to do things that are tough to try and save a business,” he said.
Rush is annoyed that Romney’s implicitly conceding virtuous motives on Obama’s part in saving GM instead of slamming him for the power grab and for propping the company up with taxpayer money to satisfy the unions. I didn’t draw that conclusion when I watched the clip, though. Romney’s goal, as Limbaugh acknowledges, was simply to inoculate himself from the left’s anti-Bain argument that layoffs are always unnecessary and bad. Unless he’s even more of a RINO than I thought, you’re not going to hear him equate private equity with government takeovers on the trail if/when this comes up. In fact, go watch this clip from November in which Romney criticizes Obama for “giving the companies to the UAW.” In 2008 he opposed a no-strings-attached bailout and instead endorsed a managed bankruptcy led by the companies themselves in which GM et al. would be eligible for certain types of federal help if and only if they reorganized themselves for profitability. Quote:
Without [a] bailout, Detroit will need to drastically restructure itself. With it, the automakers will stay the course — the suicidal course of declining market shares, insurmountable labor and retiree burdens, technology atrophy, product inferiority and never-ending job losses. Detroit needs a turnaround, not a check…
It is not wrong to ask for government help, but the automakers should come up with a win-win proposition. I believe the federal government should invest substantially more in basic research — on new energy sources, fuel-economy technology, materials science and the like — that will ultimately benefit the automotive industry, along with many others. I believe Washington should raise energy research spending to $20 billion a year, from the $4 billion that is spent today. The research could be done at universities, at research labs and even through public-private collaboration. The federal government should also rectify the imbedded tax penalties that favor foreign carmakers…
The American auto industry is vital to our national interest as an employer and as a hub for manufacturing. A managed bankruptcy may be the only path to the fundamental restructuring the industry needs. It would permit the companies to shed excess labor, pension and real estate costs. The federal government should provide guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing and assure car buyers that their warranties are not at risk.
In a managed bankruptcy, the federal government would propel newly competitive and viable automakers, rather than seal their fate with a bailout check.
He’s not saying federal money should be absolutely off limits, only that it should be limited to certain purposes and contingent upon restructured viability. That’s very different from Obama’s goal per Rush, but you’ve still got federal money flowing to automakers in this scenario. Not ideal, but then neither is Romney. See what I mean up top about compromises? Click the image to watch.










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Pretty much the only thing dumber than Rick Perry attacking Mitt on Bain Capital is Mitt Romney’s defense of Bain Capital.
bitsy on January 11, 2012 at 6:01 PM
which part of the word “save” don’t you get?
liberal4life on January 11, 2012 at 6:01 PM
Romney has just attacked Free market Capitalism.
portlandon on January 11, 2012 at 6:01 PM
Trial balloon, folks. Get a grip.
John the Libertarian on January 11, 2012 at 6:01 PM
Once again, neither the most conservative, nor the most electable.
caverduc on January 11, 2012 at 6:02 PM
very true. romney just doesn’t present enough of a contrast to obama. this new statement only makes that worse! we need a nominee who STRONGLY contrasts obama and is not afraid to hit him hard on his failed, socialist-leaning policies.
Sachiko on January 11, 2012 at 6:03 PM
Second look at gauging our eyes out?
caverduc on January 11, 2012 at 6:04 PM
+ 100..Some don’t get it..never will either..:)
Dire Straits on January 11, 2012 at 6:04 PM
The first quote is fake and the second quote is totally out of context.
Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 6:05 PM
liberal4life on January 11, 2012 at 5:54 PM
Not in the tank for Romney. Simply against morons like you spouting your lies and garbage and bullsht. You’re ignorant. You’re willfully ignorant. And the worst part is you enjoy it.
blatantblue on January 11, 2012 at 6:05 PM
He explicitly said Obama did it to “save the companies”.
But that’s why Obama did it, just as Romney did it to save the companies.
He is not saying Obama did it the best way.
He is not saying he agrees with Obama doing it.
He is not saying it was a good way to spend taxpayer money.
He is not saying it was not a favor to the UAW.
He is not saying it did save the companies.
In fact, he has said he disagrees with all of those things. But in this case, the way Romney *had* to make his point was to compare what was similar. Obama’s stated motivation and the firings.
If he highlights the differences, then Romney’s ability to defend his (and Bain’s) actions disappears.
“Obama fired people too, but it was completely different” isn’t a good point for Romney.
MayBee on January 11, 2012 at 6:05 PM
So he’s saying he’s just like Obama. Wonderful. Great strategy!
Or,
He’s saying Obama was just being a CAPITALIST (because afterall, any attack on BAIN is an attack on CAPITALISM — or so we’re told) when he bailed out GM.
Good to know. Thanks, Mitt.
-Aslan’s Girl
Aslans Girl on January 11, 2012 at 6:05 PM
Sorry, but someone who has to send up trial balloons like that and then pull back after they’re shot down just isn’t going to win. It was pretty much the same with the AGW stuff early on.
ddrintn on January 11, 2012 at 6:05 PM
Romney is correct. He’s just like Obama. And the GOP is Democrat-lite.
promachus on January 11, 2012 at 6:05 PM
Romney better start buying votes like Obama too. And I don’t smoke cigarettes.
mike_NC9 on January 11, 2012 at 6:05 PM
No. Rush overreacted and bought The Hill’s spin on the story. Romney never said anything remotely resembling “what he did was no different from the Obama administration’s auto industry bailouts.”
He was pointing out that the goals of both Bain and the government auto bailouts was to salvage failing businesses which saved jobs. That is where the comparison ends.
Romney could have made himself clearer, but was not condoning the bailouts, and he was not saying that what he did at Bain was NO DIFFERENT.
JannyMae on January 11, 2012 at 6:06 PM
He is only comparing the firings. The downsizing. That’s what he said Obama did.
MayBee on January 11, 2012 at 5:54 PM
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Don’t bother. They don’t care about context or facts.
Hitting him on romneycare or things they should hit him on isn’t good enough. They want to lie and smear. Only that can satisfy their hatred.
blatantblue on January 11, 2012 at 6:06 PM
I don’t. Not voting for him, just down ticket. I really dont think he has the character to be a Republican President. He wont win my state anyway.
Flapjackmaka on January 11, 2012 at 6:06 PM
Anyone seen Newt’s “For the dogs” ad? It’s a compilation of some of Mitt’s gaffes. It *is* funny (well, except for the part about poor old Seamus).
Mitt is the right’s Joe Biden.
sandollar_sa on January 11, 2012 at 6:07 PM
Excellent. That was my point. Since Bain was all about Schumpeterian creative destruction and capitalism, so Obama’s GM takeover too was Schumpeterian creative destruction too?
promachus on January 11, 2012 at 6:07 PM
What’s inconsistent about his statements on GM?
Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 6:07 PM
No it isn’t. Obama did it to bail out the UAW.
ddrintn on January 11, 2012 at 6:07 PM
More like “Trying Buffoon”.
You don’t use a suicide bomb as a “trial balloon”. It just ain’t too bright.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 11, 2012 at 6:07 PM
sharrukin on January 11, 2012 at 5:59 PM
Really?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFtUO-z-r48
sharrukin on January 11, 2012 at 6:08 PM
+ 1000..priceless..:)
Dire Straits on January 11, 2012 at 6:08 PM
sorry guys, there’s no way for Rush to prop up a party that has no principles.
After 2008 Rush said something about not trying to prop these losers up anymore…and he’s right.
I heard him late in the program…all over Perry for being such a dimwit. But Rush said the truth
The truth is that these guys who have been in Politics all their lives know NOTHING about capitalism. They are GOVERNMENT men/women…that’s the life they chose. They have no clue.
Someone like Romney would have to educate an entire electorate on what capitalism is…in the face of an ignorant/hostile press…a leftist machine smelling a generational victory…and a half-hearted support from a R party which is in the midst of collapse.
I.e., not damn likely. Our voter population is too stupid, too innumerate, too uncurious, and too dependent on the government paycheck and the TMZ culture
And, no…I don’t see anyone that is better than Romney.
My assumption is that Trump will run. He’s smart enough to see that the Rs are hopelessly stupid
r keller on January 11, 2012 at 6:08 PM
So, what was that about “electability”, again?
Yeah, he’s so “electable”.
Um, wait a minute…!
Aslans Girl on January 11, 2012 at 6:08 PM
Are you saying that Romney is not articulate or eloquent and cannot make off the cuff answers without shooting himself in the foot? Pray, tell me, I am all ears.
promachus on January 11, 2012 at 6:09 PM
Well, no, remember? Never let a crisis go to waste?
Somehow I don’t think we want another President that leverages take overs.
Speakup on January 11, 2012 at 6:09 PM
This is why he will lose if he really cant do it. You cant do the bumper sticker stuff when Obama and Axelrod are playing the “corporations are people”, “fire people” crap. Media wont help him and 30 second debate clips are designed for reps not to get a word in edgewise.
Flapjackmaka on January 11, 2012 at 6:09 PM
Conservatives are the enemies of both the republicans and democrats. We are always attacked by both parties and no matter which party we vote, we end up supporting the enemy. We are either ignorant or sadists.Our best shot now is to support Ron Paul and force this thing to a brokered convention. Anything is better than Romney.
they lie on January 11, 2012 at 6:09 PM
We have one party and no representation.
Sad.
rickyricardo on January 11, 2012 at 6:10 PM
El Rushbo did take Gingrich and Perry to the woodshed over this line of attack on Romney..:)
Dire Straits on January 11, 2012 at 6:10 PM
Sounds like the date didn’t go so well.
Bmore on January 11, 2012 at 6:10 PM
Awwwwwww. I think someone needs a binky.
besser tot als rot on January 11, 2012 at 6:10 PM
Really. I guess you posted the wrong video. That quote isn’t in that video.
Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 6:10 PM
This. Not that it matters to you.
29Victor on January 11, 2012 at 6:10 PM
Romney is saying pretty clearly “don’t criticize what Bain did because what I and Bain did is the same as what Obama did with the auto bailouts”. Period.
This is what happens when you’re not ideologically grounded. Romney’s eventually going to hang himself with his own rope. Mark it down.
ddrintn on January 11, 2012 at 6:11 PM
You’re the one shooting him in the foot. He just answered the question he was asked.
Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 6:12 PM
JannyMae on January 11, 2012 at 6:06 PM
Less than that.
It’s pretty much saying: “you want to criticize me for firing people? YOU fired people when you took over companies”
And the clip bears that out. It’s clear to anyone with a brain
blatantblue on January 11, 2012 at 6:12 PM
Which of the (remaining) candidates is most conservative and most electable?
JannyMae on January 11, 2012 at 6:12 PM
He didn’t save the “industry” and whether he saved GM remains to be seen. But in the process of kowtowing to the UAW, he gave bondholders short shrift. My best friend lost everything she had invested in GM. A full third of her retirement savings went up to smoke in that deal. She was SUPPOSED to be a priority creditor, but Obama would never let a little thing like the bankruptcy code get in the way of pandering to his supporters.
Dee2008 on January 11, 2012 at 6:13 PM
Just found the ad on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGqtLvPk6mo
Thanks.
The Seamus story is devastating. That is so wrong.
mike_NC9 on January 11, 2012 at 6:14 PM
I am just so impressed by Mitt’s amazing political skills. He never makes any gaffes. No, not him. ///
This is the second gaffe of the week and it’s only Wednesday!
If this pathetic defense if all he has to offer, tell me why it was so stupid of Newt, Hunts, and Perry to bring it up? Maybe they knew this was all he would offer and they wanted to expose him for the EMPTY SUIT he is. Between those three, how many elections have they won? Mitt’s only won one — and he only won that by playng to the Left of Ted Kennedy.
Maybe he isn’t so good at this whole “election” thing, afterall. Sorry, Establishment! Your boy is WEAK. Oh, wait, you knew that already. THAT’S why you want to saddle us with him as the nominee so he loses!
Aslans Girl on January 11, 2012 at 6:14 PM
OK, normally when you say something is inconsistent, you post two things. Not that it matters to you, whatever that was supposed to mean.
Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 6:15 PM
That was the first quote.
I guess you meant the second?
It comes from mittromneycentral.com which I admit may not be the most reliable source given how they are so often on both sides of an issue.
That is why it is critical that we elect fiscally-responsible conservative leaders who will work to repeal the worst aspects of Obamacare…
sharrukin on January 11, 2012 at 6:15 PM
No it isn’t. Obama did it to bail out the UAW.
ddrintn on January 11, 2012 at 6:07 PM
That’s the point you want to make about it.
But Romney is being attacked for firing people and being a big heartless meanie. He is being attacked by people who have actually fired people themselves. Do you not see that scoring other political points off this statement would have diluted the point?
This wasn’t his anti-bailout stump speech. This was his “I don’t fire people for the thrill of it” quick sound bite.
MayBee on January 11, 2012 at 6:15 PM
Quote:
ddrintn on January 11, 2012 at 6:16 PM
No. That’s pretty clear from the rest of my comment that you clipped off, in order to make this disingenuous “point.”
JannyMae on January 11, 2012 at 6:16 PM
Never mind the fact that taken together they’re ideologically incoherent.
ddrintn on January 11, 2012 at 6:19 PM
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.
JannyMae on January 11, 2012 at 6:19 PM
^ In other words, Romney always adjusts what he says to the audience.
ddrintn on January 11, 2012 at 6:20 PM
The clear implication is that there was nothing else wrong with those government “takeovers”, even though they were illegal, un-Constitutional, un-American and just plain stupid. The money to buy them came from TARP. That was interesting.
But, so far as Romney’s concerned, forget all that, I can stupidly use the circumstance to make some point about firing people that I could have made in any of 35,000,000,000 better ways.
Why did he do this? Because this is the way he really thinks.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 11, 2012 at 6:20 PM
Never mind the fact that taken together they’re ideologically incoherent.
I’m not sure what you are saying here.
MayBee on January 11, 2012 at 6:20 PM
Kind of like “I know you are, but what am I?”
The problem is, this line of attack doesn’t prove he wasn’t a big heartless meanie. It just proves that his attacker isn’t much better.
Dee2008 on January 11, 2012 at 6:20 PM
Why would anyone hit him on Romneycare? Come on BB, I thought the new spin is that his gubernatorial tenure was awesome. Masscare was his crowning achievement, and it was “the right thing for Mass.” Without Mitt, it would have just been worse, so we should thank him for making it “more conservative.”
So, in the end, Romneycare is a plus, right?
Good Solid B-Plus on January 11, 2012 at 6:22 PM
It’s all spin. You don’t keep the mandate and then issue every state a waiver. If you find a video of him saying he’ll keep the mandate I’ll watch it.
Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 6:22 PM
He’s ascribing different motivations to Obama based on his target audience. Romney is hollow as can be.
ddrintn on January 11, 2012 at 6:23 PM
So is Romney acknowledging Obama saved the auto industry?
liberal4life on January 11, 2012 at 6:23 PM
On that tiny issue that Newt brought up, yes, he eliminated a point of attack. Now he can move on to how many jobs he created and how he did it with private money. Win.
Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 6:24 PM
He’s acknowledging that obama thinks he did.
Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 6:24 PM
Aha! I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info – it’s item #986762 why Obama is loathsome. This is something Romney should follow up on:)
Buy Danish on January 11, 2012 at 6:25 PM
Again – poor wording on Romney’s part. The big difference IMO between what Romney did with Bain and what Obama did is that Romney/Bain did it as a part of the private free market system, while Obama did it as the government. The government should not (and according to the Constitution does not) have the authority or responsibility to take over and try to save a private business. THAT is the main reason Obama was wrong to do what he did.
dentarthurdent on January 11, 2012 at 6:25 PM
promachus on January 11, 2012 at 6:07 PM
Yes, we are agreeing on this… and I do want you to know that I am more receptive today to what Palin was saying back a few months ago. Back then, I felt that she was attacking capitalism; I’ve obviously changed my mind.
Aslans Girl on January 11, 2012 at 6:26 PM
Romney must think he did as well, otherwise why use the analogy?
ddrintn on January 11, 2012 at 6:26 PM
Yeah but Romeny didn’t have tons of tax payer money at his disposal when he made his managment decision, unlike THE ONE who took us to the cleaners for votes!
RedLizard64 on January 11, 2012 at 6:26 PM
You see where they put us ? Vote Romney ! He’s our only choice !
I think not . I’m tired of the the meme , I’m sick of the establishmen and I will vote my conceience .
Lucano on January 11, 2012 at 6:27 PM
What are you talking about? He was making a specific point. It’s pretty obvious what that specific point was, if you watch the clip. You’re the one trying to extrapolate that specific point out into a general point that he never made, for you to attack him on.
JannyMae on January 11, 2012 at 6:28 PM
The problem is, this line of attack doesn’t prove he wasn’t a big heartless meanie. It just proves that his attacker isn’t much better.
Dee2008 on January 11, 2012 at 6:20 PM
Ok, so he’s neutralizing that line of attack. That’s good.
MayBee on January 11, 2012 at 6:28 PM
“I like mandates. The mandates work.”
GIBSON: But Government Romney’s system has mandates in Massachusetts, although you backed away from mandates on a national basis.
ROMNEY: No, no, I like mandates. The mandates work.
THOMPSON: I beg your pardon? I didn’t know you were going to admit that. You like mandates.
sharrukin on January 11, 2012 at 6:29 PM
Because the analogy was the layoffs, not everything you read between the lines.
Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 6:29 PM
Has it been saved?
Hypocrisy can only serve a liberal so far. How’s it working out for you?
BruthaMan on January 11, 2012 at 6:29 PM
Maybe Obama’s team will point out that distinction after they run video clips of Romney making the idiotic statements that he did this morning.
GaltBlvnAtty on January 11, 2012 at 6:30 PM
I don’t even like Romney but I do not see the problem here. He’s bringing up the fact that Obama defended closing shops and putting people out of work to “save” companies. So what. The huge difference is Bain capital used private funding from investors who VOLUNTARILY invested their $ in Bain to heaven forbid make money in a free market. Companies do fail in a free market. To blame Romney because Bain did not have a %100 success rate is silly. Nobody gave Obama squat to prop up, save or take over anything. If the Gov’t ever has a 70% success rate “”investing” our money I’d like to know.
Do I really need to point out that Obama actually wants people out of work so they can be dependent on the gov’t for handouts. It’s grossly unfair to say the same about Mitt.
Buttercup on January 11, 2012 at 6:31 PM
He was trying to make a specific point, but being the idiot he is and leaning left as he does, he made tons of general (incorrect) points in order to get across his one, little specific point.
I’m beginning to think that Mitt didn’t have much to do with the actual day-to-day work at Bain. Maybe that’s why he’s not explaining it like a normal person would?
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 11, 2012 at 6:31 PM
In simple terms: ANY third party candidate equals Hussein’s re-election. (see Ross Perot fiasco, history is a wonderful thing), any vote for 3rd Party is a vote against a Republican nominee.
Romney or Paul vs. Hussein = Hussein’s second term.
Trump vs. Hussein = Hussein’s second term.
Trump is a close friend of many a liberal, what he says on TV is just for the show, he is as liberal as they come and will do anything to have Hussein occupy the White House. Name one well known conservative Trump is friends with. Simple question.
riddick on January 11, 2012 at 6:31 PM
OK, you’re not going to post everything you find with the word mandate in it, are you? Find me something that shows him saying he’ll keep the federal obamacare mandate. That was your claim. I already know the story behind that quote. You apparently do not. But keep searching for this thing you’ll never find.
Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 6:31 PM
There you have it.
cicerone on January 11, 2012 at 6:32 PM
Neutral … on a point of free enterprise against a Marxist retard who tore the Constitution asunder in the process. Brilliant.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 11, 2012 at 6:32 PM
They also shut down Pontiac – which was actually starting to produce some nice cars again. I have a 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP that has had no mechanical problems so far (despite my teen son beating on it), has great performance (for a front wheel drive), is very comfortable to drive, great options, and looks halfway decent. The G8 was also a really nice car. If they had been allowed to do a real retro model GTO, they would have been a big hit.
dentarthurdent on January 11, 2012 at 6:32 PM
ddrintn on January 11, 2012 at 6:11 PM
Ha Ha Ha. You are so funny, ddrintn. You know what your problem is? You are such an ideologue that you can’t see the forest from the trees.
Buy Danish on January 11, 2012 at 6:33 PM
sharrukin on January 11, 2012 at 6:29 PM
You seem to have deliberated omitted something from that exchange:
JannyMae on January 11, 2012 at 6:34 PM
So true it hurts.
Valiant on January 11, 2012 at 6:35 PM
Neutral on the point that layoffs are caused by mean people. You made up the rest.
Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 6:35 PM
JannyMae on January 11, 2012 at 6:34 PM
Hey, look. It’s an ACTUAL quote that says the OPPOSITE of what sharrukin’s FAKE quote said. That didn’t take long to find, unlike the fake one which was scrubbed long ago.
Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 6:37 PM
Neutral … on a point of free enterprise against a Marxist retard who tore the Constitution asunder in the process. Brilliant.
Yes. Because he was dealing with one line of attack today. The 30 second soundbite everyone agrees he needs.
He can get into the Constitution shredding another day. This will not be his only turn at the microphone.
MayBee on January 11, 2012 at 6:37 PM
First of all, arguing aginst the demented idea “that layoffs are caused by mean people” is one one of free enterprise. Layoffs are a natural part of free enterprise.
Secondly, Barky is most certainly a mean guy.
Thirdly, I made nothing up.
Three strikes, Ronnie. You’re out.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 11, 2012 at 6:39 PM
He is a blank screen, ready for you to project your own views and values upon.
ZGMF_Freedom on January 11, 2012 at 6:39 PM
Aslans Girl on January 11, 2012 at 6:26 PM
I’m specifically referring to her “crony capitalism” charge.
Aslans Girl on January 11, 2012 at 6:39 PM
Can we draft Jindal? Did I spell his name right?
JellyToast on January 11, 2012 at 6:39 PM
Read Keith Hennessey’s take on the GM bailout. I don’t like government intervention in private markets at all but I do understand it was a tough choice and one they tried to make to avoid leaving an incoming administration with a failing auto industry. Hennessey was apoplectic over the bungling and lying that took place under Obama. That says a lot since Hennessey like his former boss bent over backwards to avoid criticizing this administration.
Did Romney agree with Bush this was a unique situation? Probably so. Nevertheless, this one of the few things Obama has been running around taking credit for – that and his barehanded take down of Bin Laden.
msmveritas on January 11, 2012 at 6:41 PM
Great. He doesn’t like the phrase “federal mandate” but he’s just raring to use the coercive power of the federal government to make an effective federal mandate.
That is what Mittens is saying.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 11, 2012 at 6:41 PM
First, that’s the only comparison he made – that both were involved in layoffs, not the absurd statement you made.
Second, I didn’t say he wasn’t.
Third, yes you did. What you said was not in Romney’s quote. You made it up.
Fourth, could we stop numbering our sentences now?
Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 6:42 PM
See? That’s the whole problem here. All this “look look I’m just like Obama!” stuff will do is inspire voters who are truly rtrying to decide between Obama and someone else to vote for Obama. I mean, if the other guy is just like Obama, why bother with all the moving expenses and whatever?
Knott Buyinit on January 11, 2012 at 6:43 PM
So, why don’t you tell Newt and Perry that? They are the ones who accused Romney and Bain of “looting the companies” and “destroying jobs.”
JannyMae on January 11, 2012 at 6:43 PM
Yes, that’s a bad idea, but it’s hardly a mandate.
Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 6:44 PM
First of all, arguing aginst the demented idea “that layoffs are caused by mean people” is one one of free enterprise. Layoffs are a natural part of free enterprise.
Ok, but that does not neutralize the criticism from Obama. The thing that neutralizes the criticism from Obama is pointing out that when Obama had the same goal, he did the exact same thing.
MayBee on January 11, 2012 at 6:45 PM
Thanks. Whether you vote for her or not, listen to her as she has unique way of going to the nub of the problem. Unlike many intellectuals of left and the right. She see solutions where others have barely seen the problem.
promachus on January 11, 2012 at 6:45 PM
Then, even in your view, nothing was neutralized. Because to make it neutral, Nittens had to show that Barky was acting like Mittens had acted. If Barky is mean, then Mittens puts himself in the mean category.
Mittens, of course, said that Barky isn’t mean because he stated explicitly that he thought the Marxist America-hater did that un-Constitutional act from the good of his heart in order to save the companies and turn them into profitable enterprises.
Mittens was wrong in just about every way he could have been wrong.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 11, 2012 at 6:47 PM
Which means you are the defensive against Obama when you need to be on attack. The problem with Romney is we will be defensing him on so many fronts, there won’t be anything left to criticize Obama with a straight face.
promachus on January 11, 2012 at 6:47 PM
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