Romney on Bain’s layoffs: Obama did the same thing with the auto bailout, you know

posted at 5:26 pm on January 11, 2012 by Allahpundit

Rush Limbaugh unloaded on him today for saying this, but it is what it is. If you want Mitt Romney as your nominee, you’d better be prepared to make ideological compromises. Go re-read Dan McLaughlin’s piece yesterday for a refresher on that. Said Mitt:

“In the general election I’ll be pointing out that the president took the reins at General Motors and Chrysler — closed factories, closed dealerships laid off thousands and thousands of workers — he did it to try to save the business,” Romney said Wednesday on CBS.

Obama has publicly touted his plan to “retool and restructure” the auto companies as “an investment in American workers.” Romney was strongly opposed to the auto bailouts but on Wednesday likened the president’s strategy to his own.

“We also had the occasion to do things that are tough to try and save a business,” he said.

Rush is annoyed that Romney’s implicitly conceding virtuous motives on Obama’s part in saving GM instead of slamming him for the power grab and for propping the company up with taxpayer money to satisfy the unions. I didn’t draw that conclusion when I watched the clip, though. Romney’s goal, as Limbaugh acknowledges, was simply to inoculate himself from the left’s anti-Bain argument that layoffs are always unnecessary and bad. Unless he’s even more of a RINO than I thought, you’re not going to hear him equate private equity with government takeovers on the trail if/when this comes up. In fact, go watch this clip from November in which Romney criticizes Obama for “giving the companies to the UAW.” In 2008 he opposed a no-strings-attached bailout and instead endorsed a managed bankruptcy led by the companies themselves in which GM et al. would be eligible for certain types of federal help if and only if they reorganized themselves for profitability. Quote:

Without [a] bailout, Detroit will need to drastically restructure itself. With it, the automakers will stay the course — the suicidal course of declining market shares, insurmountable labor and retiree burdens, technology atrophy, product inferiority and never-ending job losses. Detroit needs a turnaround, not a check…

It is not wrong to ask for government help, but the automakers should come up with a win-win proposition. I believe the federal government should invest substantially more in basic research — on new energy sources, fuel-economy technology, materials science and the like — that will ultimately benefit the automotive industry, along with many others. I believe Washington should raise energy research spending to $20 billion a year, from the $4 billion that is spent today. The research could be done at universities, at research labs and even through public-private collaboration. The federal government should also rectify the imbedded tax penalties that favor foreign carmakers…

The American auto industry is vital to our national interest as an employer and as a hub for manufacturing. A managed bankruptcy may be the only path to the fundamental restructuring the industry needs. It would permit the companies to shed excess labor, pension and real estate costs. The federal government should provide guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing and assure car buyers that their warranties are not at risk.

In a managed bankruptcy, the federal government would propel newly competitive and viable automakers, rather than seal their fate with a bailout check.

He’s not saying federal money should be absolutely off limits, only that it should be limited to certain purposes and contingent upon restructured viability. That’s very different from Obama’s goal per Rush, but you’ve still got federal money flowing to automakers in this scenario. Not ideal, but then neither is Romney. See what I mean up top about compromises? Click the image to watch.

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Yes, that’s a bad idea, but it’s hardly a mandate.

Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 6:44 PM

It is the coercion of EVERY state to have individual mandates, making it an effective mandate. This is NOT the business of the federal government – no way, no how. Look at the interstate highway funds to see how it will develop with the special funds used to entice every individual to fall under a mandate.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 11, 2012 at 6:48 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 11, 2012 at 6:41 PM

Sharrukin was challenged to provide evidence that Romney said he was “in favor of the mandate.” He provided a twisted version of what Romney said, as “proof” and then I provided a direct quote from Romney, saying he is “not in favor of a federal mandate.”

You got a problem with that?

JannyMae on January 11, 2012 at 6:49 PM

So, why don’t you tell Newt and Perry that? They are the ones who accused Romney and Bain of “looting the companies” and “destroying jobs.”

JannyMae on January 11, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Newtered and his pet, Perry, both need to disappear. They’re destructive idiots.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 11, 2012 at 6:49 PM

promachus on January 11, 2012 at 6:45 PM

Yes, I’m referring specifically to her “crony capitalism” charge that many (myself included) thought she was attacking capitalism itself. I don’t believe that anymore. We have to make sure that our capitalism is still moral. Other countries, like China, have capitalism and because there is no moral foundation, it is ruthless and profit is God. American capitalism has to be wary of that fate. Further, all of Wall Street voted for Obama. That tells us something right there, doesn’t it?

Aslans Girl on January 11, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Romney……..the spawn of splitting the Conservative vote.

Not to worry folks Rubio is the chosen VEEP of the establishment. And as long as they tell us who to vote for we’re all good.

PappyD61 on January 11, 2012 at 6:51 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 11, 2012 at 6:47 PM

Best example of pretzel logic I’ve ever seen. Congratulations.

I think.

JannyMae on January 11, 2012 at 6:52 PM

Hey, don’t jump on Romney for this. He is just being honest. He and Obama share a lot of the same policies.

Lightspeed on January 11, 2012 at 6:53 PM

So…

I’ve been complaining over the last few days over whether or not I should vote for Mitt against Obama (if that’s how the election ends up.)

And…

I’m sorry Mittbots and every rational conservative out there, but every time I start to warm up to Mitt he says something that makes me dislike him all the more.

Mitt comparing his tenure at Bain Capital to unbridled socialism by the Obama Administration is just plain pathetic.

I’m glad Rush ripped him for that.

Aizen on January 11, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Wow, Splitting hairs… :))

residentblue on January 11, 2012 at 6:56 PM

I know how Obowma is going to get re-elected…

… He’s going to make Mittens his new Vice President.

/

Seven Percent Solution on January 11, 2012 at 6:57 PM

It is the coercion of EVERY state to have individual mandates, making it an effective mandate. This is NOT the business of the federal government – no way, no how. Look at the interstate highway funds to see how it will develop with the special funds used to entice every individual to fall under a mandate.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 11, 2012 at 6:48 PM

I agree that it’s not the place of the federal government (which I already stated), but this plan pretty much exists with medicaid. Not really something new. What we have from obama is an actual mandate, not some nuanced kinda sorta mandate coercion thingy. Romney is going to issue waivers all around. Doesn’t sound like he wants a federal mandate. Seem like a good idea.

Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Seven Percent Solution on January 11, 2012 at 6:57 PM

LOL!

Aslans Girl on January 11, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Mitt comparing his tenure at Bain Capital to unbridled socialism by the Obama Administration is just plain pathetic.

Aizen on January 11, 2012 at 6:56 PM

This is the kind of logic Debbie would use. It’s weak. He said nothing of the sort.

Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 7:00 PM

I know how Obowma is going to get re-elected…

… He’s going to make Mittens his new Vice President.

/

Seven Percent Solution on January 11, 2012 at 6:57 PM

That’s funny. But come on, you know if Obama called Mitt today and made the offer, Mitt would take it without hesitation.

angryed on January 11, 2012 at 7:04 PM

This is the kind of logic Debbie would use. It’s weak. He said nothing of the sort.

Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Blabbermouth Schultz would say something like Mitt was trying to take credit for the Auto Bailout, and she wouldn’t call the Bailout “socialism.”

Mitt “justifying” his work at Bain Capital only tells Perry, Newt and the other anti-capitalists that they can tie Mitt to Obama, and people probably wouldn’t notice the difference, anyway.

But, I shouldn’t expect Mittbots to think this is bad.

Aizen on January 11, 2012 at 7:09 PM

It’s not just a “comparison,” it’s a strategy. It’s part of how Romney hopes to deal with the Bain attacks that he knows will be comming from Obama.

He only knows how to fight conservatives. The last time he fought a liberal it was by going to the left of him.

We are soooooooooooooo screwed.

29Victor on January 11, 2012 at 5:51 PM

And he lost by 20 points!!
This is his strategy??
Yes….WE ARE SCREWED!!

coach1228 on January 11, 2012 at 7:12 PM

So…if he says nothing he’s too weak to attack Obama but if he points out that both have fired people to maintain a working business while still condemning the socialist aspects of the bailout he’s thus supporting Obama and a complete RINO. How does Romney win among the “true conservative” base in this situation? Convert to evangelical Christianity, get rid of all of his wealth, and release a video condemning wall street and other financial institutions? OH NO WAIT, that would mean he’d be flip flopping and I mean, he wasn’t really born without money so I guess he can’t be president.

Kriggly on January 11, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Mitt “justifying” his work at Bain Capital only tells Perry, Newt and the other anti-capitalists that they can tie Mitt to Obama, and people probably wouldn’t notice the difference, anyway.

Aizen on January 11, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Again, with Debbie logic like that, I’m sure they can tie Mitt to the sign at Rick Perry’s ranch. It’s not honest, and it doesn’t interest me.

Ronnie on January 11, 2012 at 7:14 PM

Wow, Splitting hairs… :))

residentblue on January 11, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Shouldn’t you be over on the Gabby Giffords thread?

Del Dolemonte on January 11, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Boom , Boom , Boom ……..
Let’s all get in line : we vill vote for Meet !

Lucano on January 11, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Yeah, heard this on Rush today and I thought Rush was purposely overblowing this in the way he does to be entertaining at time. (oh my can’t believe I said that)

It sounded pretty clear to me that Mitt wasn’t saying “Obama did the same thing” he was saying “Obama used the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to lay off PRIVATE SECTOR workers” I am confident that he can delineate the difference, and anyone who can’t probably works for the DNC.

demotheses on January 11, 2012 at 7:21 PM

Not to worry folks Rubio is the chosen VEEP of the establishment. And as long as they tell us who to vote for we’re all good.

PappyD61 on January 11, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Yeah. It’s clear in this case.

With Romney as a nominee, Republicans have become on the defensive side of the debate. Too bad.

Hail Obama’s 2nd Term, YOU ARE ALL RINOS NOW!

TheAlamos on January 11, 2012 at 7:22 PM

It sounded pretty clear to me that Mitt wasn’t saying “Obama did the same thing” he was saying “Obama used the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to lay off PRIVATE SECTOR workers” I am confident that he can delineate the difference, and anyone who can’t probably works for the DNC.

demotheses on January 11, 2012 at 7:21 PM

What? We’re all spinners for Romney’s idjicy now? Nope. I will continue with my grandfather’s work of promoting true conservatism.

TheAlamos on January 11, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Rush is annoyed that Romney’s implicitly conceding virtuous motives on Obama’s part in saving GM instead of slamming him for the power grab and for propping the company up with taxpayer money to satisfy the unions.

While I agree with most of your post, IMV Rush is right about this.

Romney, instead of going on defense, should have seized upon this criticism to launch a spirited attack against Øbama’s socialism, to trumpet economic liberty. This, after all, is what November 2012 is all about, socialism versus free markets, individual liberty and limited government.

It’s a mistake to cede Øbama his premises and try to proceed from there. Accept the leftist premises, and you’ve lost the debate from the start.

Romney botched it. Hopefully, he will learn fast what this is all about… and that it’s not a parlor game. It’s a fight to the finish.

petefrt on January 11, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Yah , demetheses ,
Pretty sure he said the same thing however , think what Mitt can do with real bucks .
I repeat , I don’t trust Mitt .

Lucano on January 11, 2012 at 7:27 PM

It sounded pretty clear to me that Mitt wasn’t saying “Obama did the same thing” he was saying “Obama used the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to lay off PRIVATE SECTOR workers” I am confident that he can delineate the difference, and anyone who can’t probably works for the DNC.

demotheses on January 11, 2012 at 7:21 PM

What? We’re all spinners for Romney’s idjicy now? Nope. I will continue with my grandfather’s work of promoting true conservatism.

TheAlamos on January 11, 2012 at 7:25 PM

I believe in true conservatism… give me a true conservative and I’ll fight like hell for him.
In the meantime I’d like to save our country if that’s OK.

A lot of people’s problem with Mitt is that he doesn’t speak like a social conservative or radio ideologue, he speaks like a businessman, and that in the general election is a HUGE plus.

demotheses on January 11, 2012 at 7:31 PM

petefrt on January 11, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Just keep in mind that Mitt has only ever won ONE election in his WHOLE life! He lost his senate bid in ’94, he lost his POTUS bid in ’08, and he decided to not even bother running for reelection for the one thing he was elected to because he knew he’d lose.

He. Is. Not. A. Winner. PERIOD. He is a loser!

Aslans Girl on January 11, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Yah , demetheses ,
Pretty sure he said the same thing however , think what Mitt can do with real bucks .
I repeat , I don’t trust Mitt .

Lucano on January 11, 2012 at 7:27 PM

We’re not going to elect this guy supreme emperor, only POTUS. And even if you don’t trust his ideological purity, what do you think he is going to do? More bailouts and stimulus? I repeat, he knows how to run a bossiness and will stabilize the markets.

demotheses on January 11, 2012 at 7:34 PM

business*

demotheses on January 11, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Just keep in mind that Mitt has only ever won ONE election in his WHOLE life!

Aslans Girl on January 11, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Yeah, I know. Maybe I wish I didn’t. :(

petefrt on January 11, 2012 at 7:38 PM

And even if you don’t trust his ideological purity, what do you think he is going to do?

demotheses on January 11, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Especially with a GOP House and Senate, which will happen if we don’t blow it.

petefrt on January 11, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Is there still a chance for Palin to jump in…?

What about a Huntsman revival…?

Maybe Cain will come back into the race…?

Aizen on January 11, 2012 at 7:46 PM

demotheses ,
Wow , I didn’t think the current office holder would do anything of the kind !
Let’s not select someone who is praticed in these ” arts ” .

Lucano on January 11, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Is this not evidence that Newt did Romney a favor by attacking him on this now? Romney’s first attempt at defending what he did at Bain is falling a little short of the mark. No…a lot short of the mark. And he’s got time to fix it thanks to the pitbull in the race.

lynncgb on January 11, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Aizen on January 11, 2012 at 7:46 PM

There’s still Perry.

Aslans Girl on January 11, 2012 at 7:50 PM

He. Is. Not. A. Winner. PERIOD. He is a loser!

I wish I could make hundreds of millions of dollars being a loser. That’d sure be nice. I’m sure the irony of calling the person who just won two primary caucuses a loser has gone right over your head.

Kriggly on January 11, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Romney’s first attempt at defending what he did at Bain is falling a little short of the mark. No…a lot short of the mark. And he’s got time to fix it thanks to the pitbull in the race.

lynncgb on January 11, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Yes, the silver lining.

petefrt on January 11, 2012 at 7:54 PM

demotheses ,
Wow , I didn’t think the current office holder would do anything of the kind !
Let’s not select someone who is praticed in these ” arts ” .

Lucano on January 11, 2012 at 7:47 PM

If you didn’t know who Obama was ahead of time you weren’t paying attention. I hate how many people say they are surprised. We were all telling everyone about Obama when it started. Obviously his lefty buddies knew who he was since they are now disappointed that he’s not liberal enough.

Anyway, it’s a choice between someone who professes to love the constitution and someone who says “the problem with the constitution is that it only tells us what the government can’t do, not what it must do.”
Choice is clear.

Palin/Christie in 2020

demotheses on January 11, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Doesn’t matter who the VP is. People don’t elect VPs if the top of the ticket is bad. VPs can only hurt the ticket.

If Perry and Newt had said “Maybe we don’t want a Wall Street type who authored Obamacare to be our nominee”…would that be OK with the capitalism police or is that anti-capitalist too? That’s what I think they meant. That’s where I am and I am a Milton Friedman Capitalism=Freedom gal.

Romney messed this up big time and all of our candidates will suffer if he is the nominee.

monalisa on January 11, 2012 at 7:59 PM

He. Is. Not. A. Winner. PERIOD. He is a loser!

I wish I could make hundreds of millions of dollars being a loser. That’d sure be nice. I’m sure the irony of calling the person who just won two primary caucuses a loser has gone right over your head.

Kriggly on January 11, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Yes…and good for McRomney. Go back to his “private” sector life and make money…..since he’s a winner there.

In politics….simple math:

1 win(Mass Gov) 2 losses(94 Kennedy,08 McCain) = LOSER!!!

coach1228 on January 11, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Kriggly on January 11, 2012 at 7:52 PM

I prefaced my remarks with his ELECTORAL loses. And if looting companies and employees’ pension funds is being a “winner” in your eyes, we have different definitions of the term.

Aslans Girl on January 11, 2012 at 8:01 PM

coach1228 on January 11, 2012 at 8:00 PM

And don’t forget that he never bothered running for reelection to the one office he won, either. He knew he’d lose.

Aslans Girl on January 11, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Just keep in mind that Mitt has only ever won ONE election in his WHOLE life!

Aslans Girl on January 11, 2012 at 7:34 PM

I prefaced my remarks with his ELECTORAL loses. And if looting companies and employees’ pension funds is being a “winner” in your eyes, we have different definitions of the term.

Aslans Girl on January 11, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Asians girl you’re a sore loser and sound like a broken record. Perry’s done.

CW on January 11, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Oh My ….. Demotheses
Sorry , should have posted my “snark ” tag . I knew who this batrd was from the get go .
No one reveres the constution more than me .

Lucano on January 11, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Oh My ….. Demotheses
Sorry , should have posted my “snark ” tag . I knew who this batrd was from the get go .
No one reveres the constution more than me .

Lucano on January 11, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Haha, sorry I don’t troll here enough to know who I can take seriously!

demotheses on January 11, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Asians girl you’re a sore loser and sound like a broken record. Perry’s done.

CW on January 11, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Typical remark from a Mittbot.

I thought that I’d never say this…..but if it came down to Paul and Romney….(this is gonna hurt)….I’d say…uh…Paul now.

At least I know what I’m getting with Paul…..

I still say Gingrich is USA’s best bet against Marxist Obama….

coach1228 on January 11, 2012 at 8:16 PM

There’s still Perry.

Aslans Girl on January 11, 2012 at 7:50 PM

No offense, ’cause I know you’re a Perry fan, but his attack on Bain Capital was enough for me. Not only that, it wasn’t even an attack based on principle: It was pure political expediency.

Maybe Trump stops acting so crazy and gets in the race…?

Aizen on January 11, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Yes…and good for McRomney. Go back to his “private” sector life and make money…..since he’s a winner there.

Funny how conservatives who value the private sector so much don’t perceive a transitive property in private sector success.

I prefaced my remarks with his ELECTORAL loses. And if looting companies and employees’ pension funds is being a “winner” in your eyes, we have different definitions of the term.

You mean like the two primaries he just won? That’s a propagandized and elementary view of what an LBO firm does. Something I would expect from the left (or Perry/Newt now)

Kriggly on January 11, 2012 at 8:17 PM

demotheses , you are forgiven .
Except for the troll part ?
Yup , I’m confused . Ok be a troll , it’s kind of fun to expese one if that be the case .

Lucano on January 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM

two primaries he just won

1: Your basing your argument on TWO PRIMARIES? Wow..who died and made you SWAMI? Shall I get my crystal ball out too?


Funny how conservatives who value the private sector

Code: Hands off Conservatives….Mitt is vunerable with Bain.

FOUR SIMPLE LETTERS; T…..A…..R……P = bailout=socialism=Romneycare.
Do you want more or is that enough? I can keep going….

coach1228 on January 11, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Aslans girl !
You are the best ! I’m with you 1000% .

Lucano on January 11, 2012 at 8:30 PM

demotheses , you are forgiven .
Except for the troll part ?
Yup , I’m confused . Ok be a troll , it’s kind of fun to expese one if that be the case .

Lucano on January 11, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Well my definition of troll may be different. Let me rephrase: I don’t usually have the time to read through the comments section of HA.

demotheses on January 11, 2012 at 8:35 PM

1: Your basing your argument on TWO PRIMARIES? Wow..who died and made you SWAMI? Shall I get my crystal ball out too?

I was simply countering a claim that he lacks electoral victories. No need to be so offended, cupcake. That line of logic is pretty flawed regardless, considering Perry has never lost an election and hasn’t even finished in the top 3 of a primary yet and in some national polls isn’t even garnering double digits.

Code: Hands off Conservatives….Mitt is vunerable with Bain.

FOUR SIMPLE LETTERS; T…..A…..R……P = bailout=socialism=Romneycare.
Do you want more or is that enough? I can keep going….

He’s stated he generally doesn’t support bailouts. I don’t think you understand the meaning of an equal sign, but I’ll ignore that. He’s addressed Romneycare again and again with both a defense of the 10th amendment and the inevitability of an equivalent being passed in his State, if you still don’t believe him there isn’t much I can add. Not to mention the individual mandate was tossed around plenty in the 90s in conservative circles to counter Hillarycare and Reagan’s EMTALA. He supported TARP, as did Paul Ryan who is considered by many to be relatively conservative.

However, I’m sure YOUR candidate is so much more viable and has no flaws towards his conservative record. Please let me know who it is so I can vote for him.

Kriggly on January 11, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Quick question. How does the right support the Supreme Court’s Citizen United ruling and also oppose crony capitalism without falling over from the cognitive dissonance?

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 8:44 PM

So Obama is as evil as you?

Hmmmm….not scoring points here champ.

KirknBurker on January 11, 2012 at 8:45 PM

ABR!!!

ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY!!!

KirknBurker on January 11, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Hey demotheses. ,
Your loss

Lucano on January 11, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Quick question. How does the right support the Supreme Court’s Citizen United ruling and also oppose crony capitalism without falling over from the cognitive dissonance?

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Ummm…. I can give money to Romney’s campaign without expecting him to appoint me to an office or give me a subsidy when he is elected.

How is does your limited brain functionality allow you to type?

demotheses on January 11, 2012 at 9:00 PM

HA has turned into a CTC [Concern Troll Convention] since open registration.

Vote for Obama, because Romney is just like him!

WTF indeed.

ABO is my creed.

profitsbeard on January 11, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Michael Dale Huckabee

apocalypse on January 11, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Romney. He will fix this nation. He knows it requires bankrupting companies in order to create growth. He knows it requires the enjoyment of firing people in order to obtain order and efficiency. He knows that that in order for a business, or country for that matter, to turn itself around, it needs to barrow multiples of it’s net income and give much of that money to their cronies.

With that said, I am trying to find the difference between Romney and Obama other than the fact that Obama has government power and Romney wants that power for his own uses. He has said he will bring that business model to the federal government. God, it does not matter who wins if he is the nominee, we are in for a helluva lot of precursors to a thriving economy. Massive debts, bankruptcies and mass layoffs as far as the eye can see.

Sign me up
Romney 2012

astonerii on January 11, 2012 at 9:21 PM

ah, hahahahaha!
Good one, mittens!
No wonder they’ve kept him under wraps for 4 years. Turns out, the Mutt is a gaffe Machine.

james23 on January 11, 2012 at 9:45 PM

It’s frightening how many economic illiterates are on a *right-wing* message board. JFC, the country is doomed. Btw, these private equity remove entrenched managers who were serving their own interests rather than shareholders, i.e, were thieves. And somehow the sheriffs who removed these scumbags are the bad guys, even on a board like this?

Have of this board would support Obama if he had the correct religious credentials.

MarkNY on January 11, 2012 at 9:47 PM

so willard just basically endorsed 0bama’s bailout of the auto industry and further saying 0bama saved it. man this is worse than mccain’s “we have nothing to fear from an 0bama presidency”

chasdal on January 11, 2012 at 9:57 PM

OMG I can’t beleive that this is the guy that the establishment is trying to shove down our throats! He’s awful ..not only do we lose the Obamacare argument with Romney but now the outrageous auto bailouts where the unions got the investors’ money and the American Taxpayer got screwed???

I’m praying very hard for a viable and electable 3rd party candidate!

CCRWM on January 11, 2012 at 10:52 PM

I wish I could make hundreds of millions of dollars being a loser. That’d sure be nice. I’m sure the irony of calling the person who just won two primary caucuses a loser has gone right over your head.

Kriggly on January 11, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Dumping stock while your partner hypes it up is not “criminal” per se, but not that much different than what Maddoff and others have done. If Romney could sleep soundly after that, good for him I know I could not. Its not capitalism, its a con.

riddick on January 11, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Mitt is a BIG Government pundit with some capitalistic tendancies.

Mitt-”I believe the federal government should invest substantially more in basic research — on new energy sources, fuel-economy technology, materials science and the like — that will ultimately benefit the automotive industry, along with many others. I believe Washington should raise energy research spending to $20 billion a year, from the $4 billion that is spent today.”

Since when is the Federal Government’s “job” to do what the private sector does anyway?

Mitt is a RINO. Back in 2008 he was bested by McCain, and McCain sucked. So what has changed since 2008? Not a damn thing..

mr_west on January 12, 2012 at 12:30 AM

ICYMI, Bain was using private investment funds, not taxpayers money to bail out GM. Another difference, Bain didn’t put in money to protect union contracts that were driving the companies into bankruptcy.

Mitt’s point about letting GM go through Bankruptcy was to help them shed the impossible burdens of the union benefits’ cost, a benefit to the UAW far larger than anything Bain made from its investments, and those benefits were saved with public not private funds, because GM had run out of its ability to borrow or pay its debts.

He was merely pointing out the Democrats’ hypocrisy in attacking Bain for using similar practices to bail out the Union jobs without making the companies any more competitive.

Mitt could have been more complete in making his point, but I caught it. Why couldn’t Rush? Because he was focused on attacking Mitt by comparing him to liberals, rather than point out the cynical imitation of legitimate management techniques which are part of the way capitalism tries to save failing companies. Capitalism, other than crony capitalism, uses private capital with risks assumed by investors. In Obama’s false imitation of capitalism, the ones assuming the risk are the taxpayers, as in the case of Solyndra and other “green” boondoggles, and are not subject to the analysis that Bain went through before putting its clients’ money on the line. In fact, Obama’s cronyism was used against the advice of advisers to reward his donors and bundlers with taxpayer funds he was willing to lose.

As has been pointed out before, this is Mitt’s wheelhouse and he tends to speak in shorthand, like other wonks. He’ll get better, but he won’t try to win by attacking basic conservative principles.

flataffect on January 12, 2012 at 6:57 AM

Yup, let’s crown Mittens…Obama & the MFM are going to have a party with this clown!

BTW, not a big fan of IA & NH dominating the start of these campaigns…but IA looks rational compared to NH! Mittens, Paul & Huntsman 1-2-3?! Couldn’t have picked a worse finish!

Embrace the horror, Mittens vs Barry, Barry wins…

(sigh)

insidiator on January 12, 2012 at 7:38 AM

ABR

james23 on January 12, 2012 at 7:50 AM

Both did kinda the same thing but for different reasons. Romney’s was for business and to make money for his company. Zero did it to save the unions and nationalize the car companies with tax payer money which he knew would never be paid back. Mitt is an air head. He better learn real quick how to articulate reality so more people can understand him and forget all the nice platitudes he spouts in his victory speeches.

Kissmygrits on January 12, 2012 at 8:22 AM

He IS more of a rino than you thought.

Amjean on January 12, 2012 at 8:52 AM

Romney’s goal, as Limbaugh acknowledges, was simply to inoculate himself from the left’s anti-Bain argument that layoffs are always unnecessary and bad.

Uh huh, no matter how lame or insufficient re: the facts?
GM’s former bondholders are why the stock in Gubmint Union Motors is selling at HALF of what it needs to in order remain sustainable?

Unless he’s even more of a RINO than I thought, you’re not going to hear him equate private equity with government takeovers on the trail if/when this comes up.

Excuse me … IF this comes up?
Mittens served up a heaping helping ØbozØ worship.
Romney should be shunned, in the real meaning of the word. Period.
I’m sure his “bishop” would understand, Mittens must give ‘im more than 10%.

What a maroon.

~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on January 12, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Many of Romney’s sycophants are arguing that Newt is attacking Romney from the left.
When someone argues against Obama, you are attacking his race, and are a racist. This is meant to shame you and make you shut up.
When someone argues against global warming, you are attacking science and are anti-science and do not care about our children’s future. This is meant to shame you and make you shut up.
When someone argues against the welfare state, you are trying to throw grandma off a cliff, want to kill or let people die, do not care about poor people and are in general heartless. This is meant to shame you and make you shut up.
When someone argues against specific business practices made by a presidential candidate with the name Romney, you are anti-capitalist and want our way of life to end. This is meant to shame you and make you shut up.

Who exactly is attacking who from the vantage point of the left?

astonerii on January 12, 2012 at 2:06 PM

our champion!! he is so electable if you have any questions just watch fox news they will tell you.

boogaleesnots on January 12, 2012 at 3:52 PM

I am so sick of all of this garbage. I think Ron Paul and Romney have a love affair on the side or something. We are all being so freaking played.
If Romney wins, we get smiling Fascism with a better economy. If Obama wins, maybe it’ll get so bad we’ll have anarchy or he’ll get impeached. God only knows. Either way, we’re all screwed.

JellyToast on January 11, 2012 at 5:41 PM

This.

Portia46 on January 12, 2012 at 5:16 PM

The US has the 2nd highest corporate income tax rate in the world ( http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/business/economy/03rates.html?_r=1 ).
The federal government is suffocating businesses with expensive and burdensom regulations ( http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-25/obama-wrote-5-fewer-rules-than-bush-while-costing-business.html ).
Unions push for ever more costly compensation packages for less qualified and less productive workers, and get more destructive in their strikes when they don’t get their way (see ANY news article about union activity).
And people continue to cry about companies moving operations overseas. Seriously? You really can’t understand why that happens?

dentarthurdent on January 12, 2012 at 6:11 PM

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