David Axelrod on Jeremiah Wright: He was the victim of selective editing

posted at 2:30 pm on January 11, 2012 by Tina Korbe

As proof of his spin prowess, campaign crafter extraordinaire David Axelrod yesterday defended BHO’s former controversial pastor Jeremiah Wright  in a lecture in Thousand Oaks, Calif. Presenting as a part of the Distinguished Speaker Series of Southern California, Axelrod said the initial news reports of Barack Obama’s long-time connection with Wright featured suspect snippets from the pastor that amounted to “ninety seconds of vitriol plucked from thirty years of sermons by some enterprising opposition researcher.” Big Government’s Joel Pollak explains why that runs contrary to all we know about Jeremiah Wright:

The claim that Wright’s sermons were selectively edited by Obama’s political opponents contradicts what is known about Wright’s preaching and the radical, racialist creed of the Trinity United Church of Christ, to which Obama belonged for two decades and to which he contributed a large amount of money.

Axelrod’s claim is also contradicted by Obama himself, who has cited Wright’s enthusiasm for radical politics as the main reason he was attracted to the church.

Axelrod brought up the Wright controversy during a lecture recounting his role as the “architect” of Obama’s rise from the Illinois state senate to the presidency. Axelrod praised Obama’s infamous “race speech,” contrasting his media skills to those of GOP vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin. …

Clearly, Axelrod’s purpose was not to inform, but to inspire. He suggested that Obama would reiterate the “hope and change” message of his 2008 campaign in 2012, and would emphasize economic equality as well as economic growth.

Axelrod’s defense of Jeremiah Wright, however, is a sign that the Obama camp is still resisting and obscuring the degree to which Obama’s own inspirations and ideas remain outside the political mainstream.

Pollak is exactly right. In 2008, Obama actually received a pass when it came to his connection to Jeremiah Wright and other unsavory figures — and he’s likely to receive a pass again in 2012. Yet, his worldview still incorporates the lessons he absorbed as he sat in a pew in Wright’s church.

Meanwhile, the MSM never misses an opportunity to report on the religions of the GOP candidates. The double-standard is blatant — and best be turned against the media if the GOP nominee wants to beat Barack Obama. That doesn’t necessarily mean the GOP nominee needs to sound bitter and angry at the media, as Newt Gingrich often does, but it does mean he needs to master light-hearted deflection and serious record-correcting.


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Color me surprised.

AH_C on January 11, 2012 at 2:34 PM

And they’ll be blaming it on Breitbart in 4……3…….2……..

waterytart on January 11, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Oh sure! And I’m a fifty something year old virgin with 3 kids!

KOOLAID2 on January 11, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Words, words, words have meaning!

rjoco1 on January 11, 2012 at 2:35 PM

who knew that David Axelrod was into Black Liberation Theology….

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on January 11, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Axelrod is a victim of selective memory….

MTLassen on January 11, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Bill O’Reilly: “How often do you go to church?”

Barack Obama: “Twice a month.”

So let’s see, 20 x 25 = 500 church services at Trinity for Obama over a 20 year period, each service lasting perhaps an hour to two hours. So Obama sat in the pews at Trinity for a minimum of 500 hours and never heard Wright say one thing that was racially disparaging? Yeah, riiiiiight.

WordsMatter on January 11, 2012 at 2:37 PM

As proof of his spin prowess, campaign crafter extraordinaire David Axelrod yesterday defended BHO’s former controversial pastor Jeremiah Wright

More a proof of his idiot prowess in injecting this huge Obama albatross into the 2012 campaign. Thank goodness for stupid enemies.

whatcat on January 11, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Let’s have a full debate.

aquaviva on January 11, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Color me surprised.

AH_C on January 11, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Racist punk.

abobo on January 11, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Words, words, words have meaning!

rjoco1 on January 11, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Yes indeed, Words Matter.

WordsMatter on January 11, 2012 at 2:38 PM

ALL editing is, by definition, selective.

Doug Piranha on January 11, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Seriously, would you buy a used car from that man? ….. Didn’t think so.

Zorg on January 11, 2012 at 2:39 PM

David Axelrod on Jeremiah Wright: He was the victim beneficiary of selective editing.

FIFY Mr. Axelrod.

Lily on January 11, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Groundwork for the vilification of Mitt per religion. Not unexpected.

“some enterprising opposition researcher”: projection much?

kunegetikos on January 11, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Back to Jeremiah Wright?? lol. Let’s see how that plays out for Romney the hack in November.

Uppereastside on January 11, 2012 at 2:41 PM

And if you edit out all that political and ethnic stuff, and just talk about how he treated his two dogs, Hitler was a sweetheart.

RBMN on January 11, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Heh, if Axelrod is such a superstar advisor, why the hell did he bring this up after so much work of shushing it?

thebrokenrattle on January 11, 2012 at 2:41 PM

I thought that Wright was supposed to be old news? Wonder why Axelrod thought it important to re-introduce him into the conversation now.

obladioblada on January 11, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Wright selected his words and ideas poorly. The only thing he’s a victim of is his own rotten judgment.

backwoods conservative on January 11, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Whaddya saying, there’s a double standard or something?

Akzed on January 11, 2012 at 2:42 PM

The “U.S. of KKK A” begs to differ with you Axelrod, the “Chickens” have already “come home to roost”.

“Godamn America” sees through your obfuscation.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on January 11, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Let me state the obvious: if this had been a Republican attending a church with a racist pastor their political career would be over.

I hope Romney or whoever gets the nomination has the guts to go after Barack of a Thousand Faces on his 20 year relationship with Rev Wrigth and his racist spew.

NickDeringer on January 11, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Do tell me more, Minister of Propaganda.

tom daschle concerned on January 11, 2012 at 2:44 PM

He suggested that Obama would * * * emphasize economic equality * * *.

Is there a name for that philosophy?

Barnestormer on January 11, 2012 at 2:45 PM

OK, Axelrod….provide the remainder of the sermons that mitigate the “vitriol” and demonstrate how it actually wasn’t that bad at all.

Or be quiet.

JohnTant on January 11, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Jeremiah Wright was, of course, wrong about the government creating HIV to attack the black community. But anyone who has read Harriet Wheeler’s book Medical Apartheid can understand why he might come to that conclusion. I suggest everyone who thinks Wright is a “kook” for believing the government might do such a thing (but who doesn’t have the patience to read Wheeler’s whole book) should just google Tuskegee experiments and syphilis.

Here’s what’s so fascinating about right wing hypocrisy vis a vis Jeremiah Wright. Often when those on the left point out that Barack Obama’s policies have a lot in common with centrist Republicans in the 1990s, the conservative response is that Obama is “moving us in the direction of socialism.” And that moving us in the direction of socialism is bad because history teaches us that the implementation of radical left wing Marxism has led to atrocities like Stalin’s purges in the USSR. These kinds of arguments, which draw upon the atrocities of history are parroted constantly in conservative venues, forums, blogs and even on Fox News.

And yet it is framed as “kooky” when Jeremiah Wright draws upon this country’s relatively recent history of forced sterilizations of black women or the Tuskegee experiments, or states that used black foster children for illegal experiments as late as the 1970s and concludes that the government may have engaged in biological warfare on black communities. The right is allowed to draw from history to argue that Barack Obama is trying to “destroy the nation.” But when folks like Jeremiah Wright do the same to accuse the feds of trying to “destroy black people.” It is unacceptable. Really now, the hypocrisy is just a bit too much to handle.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Wonder why this is being brought up again? Does bho and team think the r’s will take bho to task over his time at that church? The nano second someone does, the race word will be out for bhopress to slam said person 24/7! The r’s have a trillion things to go after bho and I hope THIS time they do so! bho got an almost pass on his past last election, NOW this time go after him r’s! The facts are on your side R’s if you have to guts to let the public get them.
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letget on January 11, 2012 at 2:46 PM

He’s right. Jeremiah Wright actually said:

“God damn, I love America!”

Doughboy on January 11, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Racists, that’s what the dems are.

rjulio on January 11, 2012 at 2:47 PM

“Clearly, Axelrod’s purpose was not to inform, but to inspire…”

Works every time it’s tried…

… Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on January 11, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Wright selected his words and ideas poorly. The only thing he’s a victim of is his own rotten judgment.

backwoods conservative on January 11, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Yes, very very very very very very very very poor judgment, to wit:

“America’s chickens are coming home to roost” – Rev Wright, SEPTEMBER 16, 2001

WordsMatter on January 11, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Really now, the hypocrisy is just a bit too much to handle.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Right… because you know… all those KKK members in Congress were actually Democrats…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on January 11, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Axelrod brought up the Wright controversy during a lecture recounting his role as the “architect” of Obama’s rise from the Illinois state senate to the presidency. Axelrod praised Obama’s infamous “race speech,” contrasting his media skills to those of GOP vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin.

We’re approaching the fourth anniversary of that infamous “race speech”:

‘A More Perfect Union’
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Tuesday, March 18th, 2008

I saw it then for what it really was… it wasn’t a speech about improving race relations in America… it was a speech about amplifying and exploiting racism in order to form a more Socialist union.

There were more racists who voted FOR Obama because of his skin color than there were racists who voted AGAINST Obama because of his skin color.

ITguy on January 11, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Uhhh…no, he was not the victim of selective editing.

I have visited Mr. Wright’s church on more than one occassion, and what we heard was standard fare.

To think that Mr. Obama sat under that teaching for 20 years and didn’t know that this man’s rhetoric was anti-American (and completely unbiblical by the way) is beyond ridiculous. If you’re that thick, then you have just proven why you should have never been elected president of the Justin Beiber fan club, let alone President of the United States…

Ugh…they make my nostrils flare…

mlewis7299 on January 11, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Right… because you know… all those KKK members in Congress were actually Democrats…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on January 11, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Well you’ve effectively ignored the crux of my post and raised a different issue that is completely unrelated to Jeremiah Wright. Bravo. Oh but if you want an easy response to this question I suggest you just take a gander at the political career of Strom Thurmond to understand what happened to Jim Crow Democrats after the Civil Rights Movement ended white-only voting in the south. *HINT THEY BECAME REPUBLICANS*

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Please. I’d like to see someone try to edit that crap in a way that would make it not look offensive.

Scrappy on January 11, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Axelrod will reincarnate as a dung beetle.

darwin on January 11, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Apostates of a feather…

Akzed on January 11, 2012 at 2:53 PM

“America’s chickens are coming home to roost” – Rev Wright, SEPTEMBER 16, 2001

WordsMatter on January 11, 2012 at 2:47 PM

You do know that Wright was quoting an American ambassador right? Have you watched that entire sermon?

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 2:53 PM

suggest you just take a gander at the political career of Strom Thurmond to understand what happened to Jim Crow Democrats after the Civil Rights Movement ended white-only voting in the south. *HINT THEY BECAME REPUBLICANS*

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Sure buddy, or buddette … whatever the hell you are. Keep coming up with the same old tired lies.

darwin on January 11, 2012 at 2:54 PM

OOOH! I get it now! What he was saying was God DAM as in protect from a flood of evil America. Also, US of KKK A was just a speech impediment on saying America is where the K-Car saved Chrysler!

Pqlyur1 on January 11, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Hey Axelrod, in exactly what context would “God Damn Amerikkka!” sound acceptable to most Americans?

AZCoyote on January 11, 2012 at 2:55 PM

The lying Axelrod works for the lying Obama. Why is it called “spin”?

GaltBlvnAtty on January 11, 2012 at 2:57 PM

You do know that Wright was quoting an American ambassador right? Have you watched that entire sermon?

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Spin spin spin. You’re better than my washing machine.

Scrappy on January 11, 2012 at 2:57 PM

But when folks like Jeremiah Wright do the same to accuse the feds of trying to “destroy black people.” It is unacceptable. Really now, the hypocrisy is just a bit too much to handle.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Hypocrisy, really? I suggest you look at who is trying to destroy black people. And that would be eugenisist Margaret Sanger’s own Planned Parenthood and the black ministers she recruited to her cause.

Lily on January 11, 2012 at 2:58 PM

To think that Mr. Obama sat under that teaching for 20 years and didn’t know that this man’s rhetoric was anti-American (and completely unbiblical by the way) is beyond ridiculous. If you’re that thick, then you have just proven why you should have never been elected president of the Justin Beiber fan club, let alone President of the United States…

Ugh…they make my nostrils flare…

mlewis7299 on January 11, 2012 at 2:49 PM

I agree, in part. If Barack Obama truly believed what Jeremiah Wright believes then he should never have even run for the Senate or President of the United States. Wright and liberation theology is expressely critical of U.S. capitalism and imperialism and (all the polling tells us) that you have to support those things to be the President of the United States. But if Obama really believed what Jeremiah Wright preached and still won the election he has not governed like a Jeremiah Wright radical. He hasn’t dismantled the military, taxes on the wealthy have not been raised, he hasn’t pulled out of Afghanistan. More importantly, he hasn’t advocated for the legalization of drugs, pushed for greater HIV-AIDs testing in poor communities, he hasn’t waged rhetorical war against mass incarceration of poor people all of which are central tenets of Wright and liberation theology. If he’s a Wright acolyte he’s a piss poor one. Wright would never have signed off on a bank bailout, instead he would’ve simply divided those bailouts by 330 million and distributed them to every American. He’s not Jeremiah Wright.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Can’t believe Axeldud is making this an issue when our great candidate McLame ran from it. If Oromney is the nominee, he too will run from it faster than McLame.

they lie on January 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

And yet it is framed as “kooky” when Jeremiah Wright draws upon this country’s relatively recent history of forced sterilizations of black women or the Tuskegee experiments, or states that used black foster children for illegal experiments as late as the 1970s and concludes that the government may have engaged in biological warfare on black communities. The right is allowed to draw from history to argue that Barack Obama is trying to “destroy the nation.” But when folks like Jeremiah Wright do the same to accuse the feds of trying to “destroy black people.” It is unacceptable. Really now, the hypocrisy is just a bit too much to handle.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Indeed.

When Obama’s black pastor draws from history, you make excuses and defend his logic.

When conservatives quote history, you attack them and their logic.

If you want to yell about other peoples’ “consistency”, try being consistent yourself, bigot.

And that is all that you are — a repulsive bigot who is desperately trying to defend your fellow racist liars and the fact that your racist liar Obama clapped and cheered to all of Wright’s ranting for twenty years.

Your Obama is thoroughly and completely unable to live up to ANY of the rules or requirements he imposes on others. Your Obama Party is thoroughly and completely unable to live up to any of the standards it imposes on others.

You and your Obama and your Obama Party are all lying racist bigots.

northdallasthirty on January 11, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Spin spin spin. You’re better than my washing machine.

Scrappy on January 11, 2012 at 2:57 PM

I think you’re confusing the definition of spin. If you watch the entire sermon (and also just google that phrase) you’ll see that he was quoting a U.S. ambassador.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

The American voters were victims of selective editing in 2008.

portlandon on January 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Spinmeister. Liar

FIFY.

dominigan on January 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

If one went to the web page for Trinity United Church of Christ back in 2007/2008 you would have read the churches beliefs and mission statement. It wasn’t hard to detect their racial and anti-semitism leanings.

iamsaved on January 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Lefties told me this constantly in 2008, that “GD America” was taken out of context, and you need to hear the entire sermon. Well I did listen to the whole sermon, and, folks, it only gets worse the more you hear. It’s very bad stuff.

juliesa on January 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Selective editing David?

So says the man who talks about monkey butts.

Logus on January 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM

David Axelrod on Jeremiah Wright: He was the victim of selective editing

Filthy liar. He wasnt victim of selective editing. I have seen complete speeches of that rotten pos and the clips we saw on tv did him justice.

Valkyriepundit on January 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM

I agree, in part. If Barack Obama truly believed what Jeremiah Wright believes then he should never have even run for the Senate or President of the United States. Wright and liberation theology is expressely critical of U.S. capitalism and imperialism and (all the polling tells us) that you have to support those things to be the President of the United States. But if Obama really believed what Jeremiah Wright preached and still won the election he has not governed like a Jeremiah Wright radical. He hasn’t dismantled the military, taxes on the wealthy have not been raised, he hasn’t pulled out of Afghanistan. More importantly, he hasn’t advocated for the legalization of drugs, pushed for greater HIV-AIDs testing in poor communities, he hasn’t waged rhetorical war against mass incarceration of poor people all of which are central tenets of Wright and liberation theology. If he’s a Wright acolyte he’s a piss poor one. Wright would never have signed off on a bank bailout, instead he would’ve simply divided those bailouts by 330 million and distributed them to every American. He’s not Jeremiah Wright.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Nope, sorry.

The standard has been established. If a Republican has ever been anywhere near a preacher who you don’t like, the Republican supports everything they do, regardless of their actions. Indeed, liberals like you state that their actions are completely irrelevant and only the fact that they were there is relevant.

Apply the same standards to your Obama, lying bigot. Especially since your Obama sat in church, clapped along with, sang hallelujah to, and ascribed his beliefs to Reverend Wright in his own book.

northdallasthirty on January 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM

At what point does Axelrod ponder if he can no longer distinguish between fact and the fiction he tells?

LoganSix on January 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM

You Lie!!

Cincy Conservative on January 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM

At what point does Axelrod ponder if he can no longer distinguish between fact and the fiction he tells?

LoganSix on January 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM

I can’t recall a time when a democrat spoke the truth. Everything the say is a lie.

darwin on January 11, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Selective editing …………….. please, Mr. Alexrod you even insult the intelligence of Democrats, who are known to have IQs on the average much lower than Republicans, with that piece of baloney.

SC.Charlie on January 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

And Barack was a victim of seletive seating. It was very convenient that he wasn’t there to hear any of the racist stuff. Very, very convenient.

SouthernGent on January 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

I have to out my own parish priest for constantly telling jokes about “Bohemians.” Terrible.

Of course, there is the little caveat that Father Podhajsky is a Czech and the Church is St Wensceslaus, a Czech National Parish, but I feel the urge to denounce someone.

BTW, did you hear the one about the 2 Bohemians who went to Kissimmee and couldn’t pronounce the name? They entered a business, went up the counter and asked the person to please spell the name of where they were so the Bohemians could figure out how to pronounce it. The person at the counter said “Sure! B-U-R-G-E-R K-I…”

He told this one before his sermon one Sunday. I didn’t say they were good. I figure it’s a form of penance we have to endure…

Kraken on January 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

More a proof of his idiot prowess in injecting this huge Obama albatross into the 2012 campaign. Thank goodness for stupid enemies.

whatcat on January 11, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Nah I think they’d much rather talk about Jeremiah Wright and other distractions than have to address the economic situation.

Go RBNY on January 11, 2012 at 3:06 PM

What is wrong with all you cultists who must worship the devil and know nothing about mainstream religious sermons. Every pastor in America works “God Damn America” into the sermon every Sunday. Obama would never be out of the mainstream on anything. Geesh.

they lie on January 11, 2012 at 3:07 PM

darwin on January 11, 2012 at 2:54 PM

What was a lie exactly? That Strom Thurmond began in the Democratic party? That he ran as a Dixiecrat unsuccesfully and then was forced to switch parties? That many other southern Democrats either switched parties or lost their seats in the 60s and 70s? That Richard Nixon’s “southern strategy” didn’t exist? Come on man, these things are part of the historical record. Strom Thurmond was an actual person. Get it together.

Seven Percent Solution on January 11, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Where in this thread have I defended the racism of the Democratic party. We’re all aware that from Reconstruction until FDR most African Americans were republicans and that Democrats were the party of white supremacy and Jim Crow. We know that the Democratic party split under FDR with urban blacks in the north supporting Roosevelt and southern Democrats clinging to “Dixie.” We know that the Kennedy’s continued to push the northern Democratic party to the left on issues of race. When it came down to ending Jim Crow it was Dem vs. Dem in a lot of instances. Anyone who knows their history knows these things. How is it relevant to this topic?

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 3:08 PM

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Wow that was a long and twisted mess. Convolute much?

UT Cowboy on January 11, 2012 at 3:11 PM

That’s A$$holerod. Can’t you spell?

bw222 on January 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 2:45 PM

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 2:58 PM

I have to give you credit for walking into an obvious mine field to stick up for your candidate. Takes some courage to do that.

Having said that, going out of the way to step on every available mine may not be the best way to clear the field.

Just sayin…

Kraken on January 11, 2012 at 3:13 PM

At what point does Axelrod ponder if he can no longer distinguish between fact and the fiction he tells?

LoganSix on January 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Until MSM starts calling him on it, which is probably never. Until then A$$holerod can lie with impunity.

bw222 on January 11, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Indeed, liberals like you state that their actions are completely irrelevant and only the fact that they were there is relevant.

Is it liberals who do that? Or people who buy into dumb partisan political games? Or are you claiming that only liberals buy into dumbn partisan political games (exhibit a: Perry and Gingrich’s recent anti-Bain attacks).

But, as always man, your posts just reek of so much hatred and rage it is weird to converse with you. I get that we flame each other around here, but your posts have a kind of mindless anger and vitriol that (I’m sure) does not just disturb me. Could you at least get some new material outside of “racist lying bigot.” Why not try and phrase things more elegantly, drip a little sarcasm, perhaps serve a little satire with a little play script or something highlighting your criticisms of liberals. Have some *fun* with it my dear. As is you are a massive (and slightly creepy) bore about nearly everything.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 3:15 PM

You do know that Wright was quoting an American ambassador right? Have you watched that entire sermon?

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Lol… yeah, and he was using it as an example of what we should condemn… lol…

WordsMatter on January 11, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Well, Axelrod would’ve fit right in as a mid-30′s “Sky Grifter”…

mojo on January 11, 2012 at 3:18 PM

How do you selectively edit “God Damn America”???

rockmom on January 11, 2012 at 3:18 PM

What was a lie exactly? That Strom Thurmond began in the Democratic party? That he ran as a Dixiecrat unsuccesfully and then was forced to switch parties? That many other southern Democrats either switched parties or lost their seats in the 60s and 70s? That Richard Nixon’s “southern strategy” didn’t exist? Come on man, these things are part of the historical record.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 3:08 PM

History is irrelevant. That’s what you said earlier.

Where in this thread have I defended the racism of the Democratic party.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 3:08 PM

When you praised and supported a man who blames Jews for all the problems of the universe.

And when, in the process, you claimed that black people are too stupid to recognize the causes of AIDS, so their rantings about CIA plots should be given a pass.

Seriously, that was pretty funny. Imbecile Obama supporters like you shriek that questioning evolution in any way, shape, or form proves you’re a scientific idiot who shouldn’t be taken seriously by anyone, but when your plantation blacks like Wright get up and claim that AIDS is a magic poison the government dreamed up to kill black people, that’s Gospel truth.

northdallasthirty on January 11, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Well you’ve effectively ignored the crux of my post and raised a different issue that is completely unrelated to Jeremiah Wright. Bravo. Oh but if you want an easy response to this question I suggest you just take a gander at the political career of Strom Thurmond to understand what happened to Jim Crow Democrats after the Civil Rights Movement ended white-only voting in the south. *HINT THEY BECAME REPUBLICANS*

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Or they stayed Democrats like Robert Byrd and Fritz Hollings, Al Gore, Sr, J. William Fulbright………

NathanG on January 11, 2012 at 3:20 PM

What was a lie exactly? That Strom Thurmond began in the Democratic party? That he ran as a Dixiecrat unsuccesfully and then was forced to switch parties? That many other southern Democrats either switched parties or lost their seats in the 60s and 70s? That Richard Nixon’s “southern strategy” didn’t exist? Come on man, these things are part of the historical record. Strom Thurmond was an actual person. Get it together.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 3:08 PM

What a nut. Let’s start from the beginning. The democrat party … the party of slavery, the party of segregation, the party of the KKK, the party of Jim Crow laws suddenly has an epiphany? Get real.

Eisenhower originally proposed the Civil Rights act, but the Senate majority leader at the time (LBJ) watered it down so much it was essentially useless. Now, here comes LBJ again … pushing the progressive agenda of reinstituting slavery. What does he do? Creates the massive welfare system we have today that has essentially shackled countless people to their master, the democrats. He passes Eisenhowers Civil Rights Act only because of Republicans and the racist LBJ is now considered a hero for enslaving people and destroying black families. The democrats couldn’t have cared less about the Civil Rights Act because they knew their welfare would be so addictive and destructive.

darwin on January 11, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Is it liberals who do that? Or people who buy into dumb partisan political games?

Those are one and the same thing.

But, as always man, your posts just reek of so much hatred and rage it is weird to converse with you. I get that we flame each other around here, but your posts have a kind of mindless anger and vitriol that (I’m sure) does not just disturb me. Could you at least get some new material outside of “racist lying bigot.” Why not try and phrase things more elegantly, drip a little sarcasm, perhaps serve a little satire with a little play script or something highlighting your criticisms of liberals. Have some *fun* with it my dear. As is you are a massive (and slightly creepy) bore about nearly everything.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Yes, we know you have no answer. Yes, we know you’re a stupid bigot who defends and supports everything that Jeremiah Wright does. So that’s why, like your childish screaming brat Obama, you blame other people for your problems.

Wright is a racist bigot. Why do you have so much trouble admitting that? Is it because you don’t want your Barack Obama held to the same standards you impose on others?

northdallasthirty on January 11, 2012 at 3:22 PM

And when, in the process, you claimed that black people are too stupid to recognize the causes of AIDS, so their rantings about CIA plots should be given a pass.

For someone who is constantly calling people “racist lying bigots” you do your fair share of stretching the truth. I’d certainly appreciate you copying and pasting me saying anything like that.

History is irrelevant. That’s what you said earlier.

That’s not even close to what I said. Which you obviously know, perhaps you think if you mischaracterize, misquote and misrepresent my posts that I will devolve into the frothing raging madman you so effectively impersonate on these boards on a regular basis. Sorry sweet, I simply will not deign to descend into your toxic ontology, bad for the skin you know.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 3:23 PM

He passes Eisenhowers Civil Rights Act only because of Republicans and the racist LBJ is now considered a hero for enslaving people and destroying black families. The democrats couldn’t have cared less about the Civil Rights Act because they knew their welfare would be so addictive and destructive.

darwin on January 11, 2012 at 3:21 PM

One has to wonder why libfreeordie and its ilk want the government to fund and avoid oversight for murder shops for black women and children.

Funny how Wright and Barack Obama never talk about that. They scream about the government poisoning black people, but never talk about how just down the road their chop shop is making sure that black women and black children are conveniently erased.

And then you see libfreeordie and its ilk screaming “racist” when someone like Gingrich tells black people they should prefer paychecks to food stamps. I mean, seriously, what better demonstration could you have that libfreeordie is a racist who doesn’t think black people can work and that they should remain helpless government dependents?

northdallasthirty on January 11, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Bill O’Reilly: “How often do you go to church?”

Barack Obama: “Twice a month.”

So let’s see, 20 x 25 = 500 church services at Trinity for Obama over a 20 year period, each service lasting perhaps an hour to two hours. So Obama sat in the pews at Trinity for a minimum of 500 hours and never heard Wright say one thing that was racially disparaging? Yeah, riiiiiight.

WordsMatter on January 11, 2012 at 2:37 PM

I have a different take on this. I think Obama was told to join TUCC because that was the church where the black power base in Chicago went. It was obligatory. He needed the veneer of church membership to get elected to anything. I doubt he really attended twice a month, or even twice a year. He went there for no other reason than to be seen going there. That’s why Axelrod created this faux outrage when Wright’s sermons surfaced, because Obama really hadn’t heard many of them and they needed to change the subject, fast.

rockmom on January 11, 2012 at 3:27 PM

What exactly was edited out of many rants Wright delivered from his pulpit?

Inquiring minds want to know what the definition of ‘God damn America!’ is!

Whatever it is, it can be good. And incredibly hard to spin.

Jack Deth on January 11, 2012 at 3:29 PM

That’s not even close to what I said. Which you obviously know, perhaps you think if you mischaracterize, misquote and misrepresent my posts that I will devolve into the frothing raging madman you so effectively impersonate on these boards on a regular basis.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Nope, I got it right. You just don’t want to take the consequences for your actions because you’re a Jew-hating racist bigot.

northdallasthirty on January 11, 2012 at 3:29 PM

libfreeordie: “The more comments I post per inch, the more right my view will be.”

WordsMatter on January 11, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Pic of Axel-grease looks like someone’s done some selective bro-toxing.

Marcola on January 11, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Here’s more of that stuff that was “out of context”.

The “War on Iraq IQ Test” passed out at Trinity in February of 2003:

War on Iraq IQ Test

REV. JEREMIAH WRIGHT / Trinity Pastor’s Page 23feb03

Take the War on Iraq IQ Test
Do you know enough to justify going to war with Iraq?

1. Q: What percentage of the world’s population does the U.S. have?
A: 6% [correction - 4.8% of world’s population - 6.2 billion vs. 280 million]

2. Q: What percentage of the world’s wealth does the U.S. have?
A: 50% [correction - 22% of global GDP]

3. Q: Which country has the largest oil reserves?
A: Saudi Arabia

4. Q: Which country has the second largest oil reserves?
A: Iraq

5. Q: How much is spent on military budgets a year worldwide?
A: $900+ billion

[...snipped for brevity...]

32. Q: How many Iraqis are estimated to have died by October 1999 as a result of UN sanctions?
A: 1.5 million

33. Q: How many Iraqi children are estimated to have died due to sanctions since 1997?
A: 750,000

34. Q: Did Saddam order the inspectors out of Iraq?
A: No

35. Q: How many inspections were there in November and December 1998?
A:300

36. Q: How many of these inspections had problems?
A:5

37. Q: Were the weapons inspectors allowed entry to the Ba’ath Party HQ?
A: Yes

38. Q: Who said that by December 1998, Iraq had in fact, been disarmed to a level unprecedented in modern history.
A: Scott Ritter, UNSCOM chief.

39. Q: In 1998 how much of Iraq’s post 1991 capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction did the UN weapons inspectors claim to have discovered and dismantled?
A: 90%

40. Q: Is Iraq willing to allow the weapons inspectors back in?
A: Yes

41. Q: How many UN resolutions did Israel violate by 1992?
A: Over 65

42. Q: How many UN resolutions on Israel did America veto between 1972 and 1990?
A: 30+

43. Q: How much does the U.S. fund Israel a year?
A:$5 billion

44. Q: How many countries are known to have nuclear weapons?
A: 8

45. Q: How many nuclear warheads has Iraq got?
A: 0

46. Q: How many nuclear warheads has US got?
A: over 10,000

47. Q: Which is the only country to use nuclear weapons?
A: the US

48. Q: How many nuclear warheads does Israel have?
A: Over 400

49. Q: Has Israel every allowed UN weapon inspections?
A: No

50. Q: What percentage of the Palestinian territories are controlled by Israeli settlements?
A: 42%

51. Q: Is Israel illegally occupying Palestinian land?
A: Yes

52. Q: Which country do you think poses the greatest threat to global peace: Iraq or the U.S.?
A:????

53. Q: Who said, “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter”?
A: Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr

Members of Trinity are asked to think about these things and be prayerful as we sift through the “hype” being poured on by the George Bush-controlled media.

Rev Jeremiah A Wright, Jr.

War on Iraq IQ Test – written by: Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, placed the following ‘War on Iraq IQ Test’ on the Trinity “Pastor’s Page” for Sunday, Feb. 23.

Hot Gas on January 11, 2012 at 3:32 PM

“Libfreeordie’s” wacky and dimwitted desperation to spin Revrum’ Wrong’s First Church of Honky Hatin’ provides solid entertainment value.

I haven’t see a Lib further in over his / her / its head on facts since someone tried to explain to Slow Joe Biden how a mirror works.

viking01 on January 11, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Seriously, would you buy a used car from that man? ….. Didn’t think so.
Zorg on January 11, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Nope. Not a used president, either.

Marcola on January 11, 2012 at 3:34 PM

darwin on January 11, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Whoa. You took a few historical facts and turned them into a whole lot of c-c-c-crazy talk. Here’s what you’re right about. LBJ was no Civil Rights hero. As President, however, he was forced to respond to the Jim Crow crisis in the south and the urban poverty problem in the north and he used every political trick in the book get the CRA through Congress.

Now as for your insane conspiracy theories regarding welfare and poverty. How many books have you actually read on this topic? You probably should start with Adolph Reed’s Stirrings in the Jug. You’ll like the book as it is *scathing* towards Democratic politicians, but not for the reasons you have imagined. This fiction that welfare (all on its own) created black urban poverty could only have been crafted in the mind of a loony person. Urban deindustrialization has much more to do with the growth of black inner city poverty in the 70s and 80s than the Great Society. Welfare does become a person’s only option when there are no jobs in a given area. Entrepeneurship was a nice idea…but its tough to have an entrepeneurial class when there were so few functioning black schools in major cities in those years. The Great Society also failed, in part, because it never really got off the ground. The programs were constantly undercut by the Vietnam effort and by Congress which kept underfunding the programs. Jill Quadango has written a great history of the Great Society (also scathing towards Democrats) that lays out a number of reasons why the programs failed none of which have to do with welfare.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 3:34 PM

What’s with the airbrushing on that warthog’s face? Looks like he was done by the same Photoshopper that paints over Paula Dean on her magazine covers.

leftnomore on January 11, 2012 at 3:34 PM

I have a different take on this. I think Obama was told to join TUCC because that was the church where the black power base in Chicago went. It was obligatory. He needed the veneer of church membership to get elected to anything. I doubt he really attended twice a month, or even twice a year. He went there for no other reason than to be seen going there. That’s why Axelrod created this faux outrage when Wright’s sermons surfaced, because Obama really hadn’t heard many of them and they needed to change the subject, fast.

rockmom on January 11, 2012 at 3:27 PM

I agree. It, for him, was about publicity. Just like every other politician, Republican or Democrat, Obama likes smoke screens and publicity (propaganda) to show how much he cares. Makes me wish we had more “citizen politicians” in the Senate and House (if those do exist). Whatever you think of him, Ron Johnson comes to mind in the Republican Party. Can’t think of one in the Democratic Party off the top of my head, but I’m sure there is one.

NathanG on January 11, 2012 at 3:34 PM

It is unacceptable. Really now, the hypocrisy is just a bit too much to handle.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 2:45 PM

The hypocrisy is all Obama’s, Axelrod’s and yours for pretending that Wright is anything other than a preacher of bigotry and envy. Taken out of context, indeed. If this is too much for you to handle then here’s your hat, what’s your hurry. Head for the door, and don’t let it hit you on the way out…..

Upstreamer on January 11, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Look at what liberals excuse. Look at who liberals apologize for.

If you give a pass to associated bad actors doesn’t that mean you share in the harm they cause?

Speakup on January 11, 2012 at 3:38 PM

No it’s true. If you watch the Wright videos closely, you can just make out the arm of the Jewish puppeteer controlling the good rev’rund, and his voice is actually dubbed by a white KKK guy.

Bishop on January 11, 2012 at 3:40 PM

America is the victim of Axelrod’s Obama spin. He’s as guility as Obama for wrecking the nation. He should be held to account.

RandyChandler on January 11, 2012 at 3:42 PM

The Great Society also failed, in part, because it never really got off the ground. The programs were constantly undercut by the Vietnam effort and by Congress which kept underfunding the programs.

I laughed. Was I supposed to laugh? Because I laughed.

Bishop on January 11, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Zero needed Revrum’ Wrong’s church for more than publicity. He was following the standard inner city recipe (see Mad Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson-Lee, Jazzy Jack$on Jr. etc) of going to where he can get his support base riled up enough at The Man long enough for them to not notice his utter incompetence.

viking01 on January 11, 2012 at 3:43 PM

The image of Obama during the 2008 election campaign was crafted by Axelrod and others. That image had little to do with the real Obama, but it sold like hotcakes. As a marketer, Axelrod is a genius. As a truth-teller, he’s a failure.

WordsMatter on January 11, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Jill Quadango has written a great history of the Great Society (also scathing towards Democrats) that lays out a number of reasons why the programs failed none of which have to do with welfare.

libfreeordie on January 11, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Nothing to do with welfare? What do you think the “war on poverty” is? It started with LBJ.

darwin on January 11, 2012 at 3:46 PM

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