The Dixville Notch / Hart’s Location sideshow

posted at 9:55 am on January 10, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

And away we go. After a year of munching popcorn, speculating, debating, yelling and sobbing, the first votes have been cast in an actual primary. And, as always, they took place in the stubborn little hamlets of Dixville Notch and Hart’s Location. (By the way… if you have to put the word “location” in the name of your town, you’re really out in the boonies.) Courtesy of OTB, the fine citizens of these tiny outposts of Democracy shuffled out in the darkness just after midnight and cast their ballots.

First up, Dixville Notch.

Romney 2
Huntsman 2
Gingrich 1
Paul 1

And then, Hart’s Location.

Romney 5
Paul 4
Huntsman 2
Gingrich 1
Perry 1

Are these people very good in terms of prognostication? In Dixville Notch, their track record is pretty impressive, having gone with the eventual GOP nominee in the last seven contested Republican primary battles. (The last time they missed was when they went with Nixon over Goldwater in 1964.) In terms of the general election, they’ve gone 8 wins and 5 losses since 1960, with seven of those wins being when Republicans won the White House. The lone exception was when they correctly picked Barack Obama in 2008.

The record for Hart’s Location is much shorter, since they apparently did the midnight voting once in 1964 and then stopped until 1996. They have correctly picked the GOP nominee in contested primaries only once since then. (John McCain in 2008) For the general election they correctly picked George W. Bush both times and Barack Obama in 2008.

So there you have it! We can all go home now, since with these results in hand we clearly know… nothing.


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Romney it is.

Bmore on January 10, 2012 at 9:57 AM

That’s some impressive turnout. Why are we letting them choose for the other 299,999,978 Americans again?

joekenha on January 10, 2012 at 10:01 AM

And us who vote after FL don’t have any say

:(

cmsinaz on January 10, 2012 at 10:03 AM

And us who vote after FL don’t have any say

:(

This wine comes of age every 4 years yet nobody ever does anything about it.

rhombus on January 10, 2012 at 10:06 AM

New Hampshire? Blue, blue New Hampshire, for pete’s sake? How in the world is such a small, northeastern reliably blue state so damn important in the Republican primary process? It’s lunacy to ascribe such importance to a place so removed from the mainstream of conservative thought. Seriously. This nominating process needs work.

Harbingeing on January 10, 2012 at 10:07 AM

I rank this Dixville Knotch rite alongside Groundhog Day when it comes to prognostication. Harmless but meaningless.

Happy Nomad on January 10, 2012 at 10:09 AM

When does Romney open his transition office? Too soon?

RBMN on January 10, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Lonny Huntsman lookin’ good?

What was that word for self-disembowelment that Allah likes so much? Oh yeah, seppuku.

Fallon on January 10, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Did anyone else notice Rick Perry got a vote? That’s far more than the 1% he’s polling in New Hampshire.

Big day for the Rickster? Perry side of Rickster that is.

ericdondero on January 10, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Kewl, laugh if you will, but these initial reports show that Huntsman and Paul are benefitting from the attacks on Mitt. If this trend extrapolates, we could be seeing Rombo’s high water mark.

abobo on January 10, 2012 at 10:14 AM

This wine comes of age every 4 years yet nobody ever does anything about it.

rhombus on January 10, 2012 at 10:06 AM

You’re right. They won’t do anything. This primary has been a disaster. The entire primary system is antidemocratic. We could completely overhaul Medicare and Social Security before we could snatch first away from those ego-driven children in Iowa and New Hampshire.

joekenha on January 10, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Rhonbus, rnc kowtows to this
Don’t like it one bit

cmsinaz on January 10, 2012 at 10:17 AM

Ace of Spades has a Straw Poll: Who do you want in 2012?


Perry is winning with 46%

I am guessing it has something to do with Governor Rick Perry being the only candidate that served in the U.S. Military. Ron Paul not withstanding, but wasn’t he drafted?

Dr Evil on January 10, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Did anyone else notice Rick Perry got a vote? That’s far more than the 1% he’s polling in New Hampshire.

Big day for the Rickster? Perry side of Rickster that is.

ericdondero on January 10, 2012 at 10:13 AM

He’s not competing in New Hampshire, Governor Perry, went straight to South Carolina. Jon Huntsman didn’t campaign in Iowa, he came in last in their caucus. It’s not a mystery if you don’t actively campaign you aren’t on voter’s radar.

Dr Evil on January 10, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Huntsman has put all his eggs in the New Hampshire basket. I think he needs to come in second for all the effort he has made campaigning in New Hampshire.

Dr Evil on January 10, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Romney will win today. The only question is the margin. If it’s not upper-teens or more double digits he’s in deep doo-doo.

SouthernGent on January 10, 2012 at 10:27 AM

If you’re on your way to vote at midnight, you’re serious.

Speakup on January 10, 2012 at 10:27 AM

New Hampshire? Blue, blue New Hampshire, for pete’s sake?

Not been paying attention have you. NH went almost entirerly Red last election cycle. Red RED!

D-fusit on January 10, 2012 at 10:27 AM

If Gingrich loses Dixville it will only encourage him to go off at half-cocked against Romney again.

MechanicalBill on January 10, 2012 at 10:30 AM

If you’re on your way to vote at midnight, you’re serious.

Speakup on January 10, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Not really. After all, dead people vote in Chicago. Now that’s serious!

Happy Nomad on January 10, 2012 at 10:32 AM

If Gingrich loses Dixville it will only encourage him to go off at half-cocked against Romney again.

MechanicalBill on January 10, 2012 at 10:30 AM

So what would encourage him to just shut up and go away?

Happy Nomad on January 10, 2012 at 10:33 AM

So what would encourage him to just shut up and go away?

I don’t know. I wasn’t thinking about that. Just trying to fit more than one phallic reference into a sentence.

MechanicalBill on January 10, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Not really. After all, dead people vote in Chicago. Now that’s serious!

Happy Nomad on January 10, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Nah. That’s pretty standard.

When they vote three or four times, that’s serious!

JohnGalt23 on January 10, 2012 at 10:37 AM

New Hampshire? Blue, blue New Hampshire, for pete’s sake? How in the world is such a small, northeastern reliably blue state so damn important in the Republican primary process? It’s lunacy to ascribe such importance to a place so removed from the mainstream of conservative thought. Seriously. This nominating process needs work.

Harbingeing on January 10, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Er, in 2010 our “reliably blue state” fired both Democrat House Representatives, one Democrat Senator, and cleaned most of the Democrats out of our State Legislature, which is one of the largest deliberative bodies in the world.

And our Democrat Governor announced in 2011 that he will not run for re-election this year.

Del Dolemonte on January 10, 2012 at 10:44 AM

At least after today the phone will finally stop ringing! Whoever thinks it helps a candidate to have robocalls done after 8pm is crazy. Twice this week the phone calls woke up my son after we put him to bed.

crowhop on January 10, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Shameless Plug Dept.: the Society for the Protection of New Hampshire Forests (SPNHF) is trying to raise $850,000 to protect the forest around Dixville Notch; this is the 5,800 acres around the resort where they have the voting.

They have until January 15th to come up with the swag; so far they are up to over $600K but still need $241 to reach their goal.

More info here

http://www.forestsociety.org/howyoucanhelp/special-projects.asp#sp35

Del Dolemonte on January 10, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Don’t worry, Newt will have strong support when Meanville reports back.

galtani on January 10, 2012 at 10:49 AM

If Gingrich loses Dixville it will only encourage him to go off at half-cocked against Romney again.

MechanicalBill on January 10, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Newt never does things half way.

galtani on January 10, 2012 at 10:52 AM

The second place candidate is still a loser until he comes in first.

jeanie on January 10, 2012 at 10:53 AM

So goes Dixville so goes the country?

racquetballer on January 10, 2012 at 10:55 AM

Dixville Notch… the Iowa of New Hampshire…

This primary system needs a complete overhaul now…

I was for splitting the country up in quarters are rotating every 4 years, now I think it would just be best to have them all on the same day because of what the “yahoos” in Iowa and New Hampshire give the REST of us…

By the time it gets out to California in June, its over… Last time we were relavent was when RFK won the primary in 1968 and got shot the same night…

Khun Joe on January 10, 2012 at 11:00 AM

They picked John McCain? End of story!

KOOLAID2 on January 10, 2012 at 11:21 AM

From what I understand there are 75 registered GOP voters in Dixville Notch! If only 6 voted, I don’t care what Romney, or anyone else got, with 72% staying home this race is wide open!!!!!!!!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on January 10, 2012 at 11:50 AM