Open thread: New Hampshire; Update: Electability key in exit polls; Update: Fox News calls it for Romney at 8 p.m. sharp, predicts Paul will finish second; Update: Huntsman says he’s staying in the race

posted at 6:05 pm on January 10, 2012 by Allahpundit

Most of the polls close at 7 p.m. ET but a handful across the state will close at 8, so sit tight for returns. Three questions tonight. One, obviously: Will Romney underperform? There’s no shortage of benchmarks to choose from. The spin from the rest of the field will be that anything less than 40 percent is failure. The spin from the media will probably be that anything less than 37 percent, which is what McCain took when he won the state four years ago, is lackluster. The further he dips below that and the closer he gets to his 2008 take of 32 percent, the more we’ll hear tomorrow about Romney having struggled to grow his base since the last time he ran.

Two: Which candidate who won’t end up being nominated will claim second place? Paul and Huntsman have been neck and neck in the last few polls, but unlike JH’s campaign, Paul’s actually has a big-picture strategy. He’s going to soldier on, pile up delegates, and try to be a force at the convention. Huntsman’s strategy is more of an “underpants gnome” deal:

Step one: Second place in New Hampshire
Step two: ??????
Step three: Nominee!

As Jazz noted earlier, in the crucial state of South Carolina, this guy’s polling behind … Stephen Colbert. The best chance he had against Romney was to somehow maneuver him into a two-man race (or three-man race, including Paul) and then let the Not Romney crowd reluctantly carry him to victory. Too late for that now, so the back-up plan, I take it, is to do surprisingly well tonight at Romney’s expense and then let his donors and media sweethearts go to work for him in SC. (According to BuzzFeed, Huntsman’s mega-wealthy father also could probably be convinced to keep the campaign going if JH finishes above, say, 13 percent.) There is, I suppose, some slim chance of a close five-way race there between Romney, Huntsman, Paul, Gingrich, and Santorum in which the winner finishes in the low 20s, but for that to happen, Huntsman needs a strong showing in NH to convince tepid moderate Romney fans down south to peel off and back him instead. Likely to happen? Er, no.

Three: Did Gingrich’s last-ditch attacks on Romney’s Bain career do anything to change the polling at the eleventh hour? Mitt was up four points in today’s final Suffolk poll, leading one of his top advisors to crow that the strategy had backfired. Could be, but if Romney ends up doing worse than expected, Democratic hopes will soar at the thought that their class-warfare strategy in November might be a winner even on the right. Can’t wait for the exit polling.

Below you’ll find the trusty Hot Air/Townhall Twitter widget for livetweeting. I’ll be updating this post, needless to say, and Jazz will be talking live about the primary on the RINO Hour of Power at 8 p.m. You can follow the returns at Townhall or via the nifty Google NH results map. While we wait, have a look at this mind-boggling graphic at Politico summarizing the astounding amateurishness of the field this year. It was Philip Klein, I think, who said Romney’s likely to be the nominee simply because he’s the only one who showed up to this job interview wearing a suit. That graphic is some of the best evidence of that theory that you’ll ever see. Also, read Dan McLaughlin’s incisive post at Red State about the real peril to conservatism in nominating Romney:

The other point I would make about integrity is that it goes close to the core of why a Romney nomination worries me so much: because we would all have to make so many compromises to defend him that at the end of the day we may not even recognize ourselves. Romney has, in a career in public office of just four years (plus about 8 years’ worth of campaigning), changed his position on just about every major issue you can think of, and his signature accomplishment in office was to be wrong on the largest policy issue of this campaign… There were spots of solid ground on which to plant ourselves with McCain, and he had a history of digging himself in on those and fighting for things he believed in. But Mitt Romney’s record is just one endless sheet of thin ice as far as the eye can see – there’s no way to have any kind of confidence that we can tell people he stands for something today without being made fools of tomorrow. We who have laughed along with Jim Geraghty’s prescient point that every Obama promise comes with an expiration date will be the ones laughed at, and worse yet we will know the critics are right. Every time I try to talk myself into thinking we can live with him, I run into this problem. It’s one that particularly bedeviled Republicans during the Nixon years – many partisan Republicans loved Nixon because he made the right enemies and fought them without cease or mercy, but the man’s actual policies compromised so many of our principles that the party was crippled in the process even before Watergate. We can stand for Romney, but we’ll find soon enough that that’s all we stand for.

As McLaughlin himself pointed out on Twitter today, we’re already seeing this happen.

Stand by for updates. Exit question: Is Rick Perry really not going to qualify for CNN’s South Carolina debate?

Update: An early trickle of exit poll data points to a good night for Romney: “The early exit polls show 44 percent of the New Hampshire electorate so far is independent. The biggest winner among them? Mitt Romney with 30 percent. Ron Paul is second, Jon Huntsman is third.”

Update: A really good night for Romney, maybe. From the Times’s Brian Stelter: “Network execs privately say they expect to be able to call NH for Romney at 8pm sharp. The race for 2nd will take longer.”

Update: Suddenly, 40 percent doesn’t sound so unlikely.

“About a third of voters are saying they’re most interested in electability – the candidate who has the best chance to defeat Obama,” ABC News’ Gary Langer, of Langer Research Associates writes. “Just over a quarter are looking for the most experienced candidate and about a quarter say they care most about strong moral character. Far fewer – about one in seven voters – say they’re looking mainly for a true conservative, a contrast from last week when a quarter of Iowa caucus-goers said so.

Romney also leads the field when voters were asked whether they’d be satisfied with a given candidate as nominee.

Update: According to the exit polls, fully 46 percent said they made their minds up today or in the last few days. If they Bain attacks worked — or backfired — we should some evidence of it in the final numbers.

Update: It’s 8 p.m. and only 10 percent of precincts have reported, but the Foxies have seen enough: They’ve called it for Romney. Interestingly, as I write this, Paul is only a little more than 10 points behind Mitt (35.5% to 25%). If it held up, that’d be a bit closer than everyone expected. One other interesting exit-poll data point from Fox: Romney won a plurality of late deciders with 29%. Huntsman was second at 22%. I guess Bain didn’t hurt him so badly after all. Yet.

Old tea-party goal: Stop Romney from winning the nomination. New tea-party goal: Stop Romney from winning all 50 primaries. Heart-ache.

Update: Fox has also called second place for Paul promptly at 8. Is that the end for Huntsman, then? Finish a distant second to Romney is one thing but what’s his rationale for continuing when he can’t pull enough independents even to top Paul?

The official exit poll results via Political Wire: “Romney 36%, Paul 23%, Huntsman 18%, Santorum 10%, Gingrich 10% and Perry 1%.”

Update: As grassroots righties mourn the Romney victory, BuzzFeed wonders: Why can’t conservatives get their act together in primaries?

“Conservatism in 1980 knew what it stood for,” said Craig Shirley, a movement veteran and Reagan biographer whose firm is working with Newt Gingrich’s presidential campaign. The movement is going through a bit of an identity crisis. This is the residue of 8 years of George Bush.”…

Others blame the candidates, not the movement.

“A dominant conservative candidate has not been able to emerge in recent years. There have been a series of flops,” said Jeffrey Bell, a movement veteran who is policy director at the American Principles Project in Washington. “And this year we didn’t have soup-to-nuts, fully funded presidential candidate. All of them lacked money except for Perry, and Perry wasn’t ready to run for president.”

Update: Huntsman tells NBC he won’t quit. Of course, Bachmann said that on caucus night too only to change her mind the next day. Good news if true, though, for Romney-haters: He’ll peel a few moderate votes away from Mitt in South Carolina, albeit not as many as he would have if he had finished a strong second tonight.

Update: The exit-poll coup de grace: “Romney wins among those who say they’re strong supporters of the tea parties.”



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What ever happened to gene simmons endorsement of rick perry? He said he had never been wrong?

residentblue on January 10, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Heh. Chudi has a PhD in geological racism.

Good Solid B-Plus on January 10, 2012 at 9:10 PM

No way in heck would any geology program give this nutball a PhD. They have standards.

cozmo on January 10, 2012 at 9:12 PM

The only candidate that has any chance in hell of beating Obama is Paul.

bmowell on January 10, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Well, RPaul should go to hell then…

Gohawgs on January 10, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Luap Nor’s got the Neo-Nazi/Ku Klux Klan/Holocaust Revisionist voters in a TOTAL lock.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 10, 2012 at 9:12 PM

One of the Not Romney needs to drop out! I’m thinking it should be Rick Perry. If Newt or Santorum is gonna have a chance….the field needs to narrow.

terryannonline on January 10, 2012 at 9:12 PM

What’s with all the Ron Paul hate going on here?

In both Iowa and New Hampshire, Paul won the conservative vote…

Damn neocons.

Aizen on January 10, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Barack Obama with only 81% of the vote in the Dem primary. Hmm…

sentinelrules on January 10, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Vermine Supreme 2012! The momentum is building.

Good Solid B-Plus on January 10, 2012 at 9:12 PM

MJBrutus on January 10, 2012 at 9:01 PM

So when did you officially become a faux conservative Obama lover you traitor?

Just kidding.

Frobenius on January 10, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Opinions and personal feelings mean nothing. Read the statistical models when they take into consideration a third party.

bmowell on January 10, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Did you notice that “whoosing sound”?…

Gohawgs on January 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM

2012 elections Spokesman says Huntsman congratulated Romney,

said ‘we’ll see you in South Carolina’
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– NBC NewsStory metadata:
Submitted 2 mins ago by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on January 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Horace on January 10, 2012 at 8:59 PM

What are you 12? 16? Is it past your bedtime? You sound like a cranky, spoiled rotten brat that up past it’s bed time.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Rod on January 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Ron Paul giving a nutty speech — the Soviet Union? — but I would STILL vote for him against Obama. I would. I really would. God help me, I would vote for Ron Paul if I had to.

Rational Thought on January 10, 2012 at 9:10 PM

It’s like the Uruguayan rugby team. You have to do what you have to do to survive.

ZGMF_Freedom on January 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM

canopor

I think I’ll act like a jackass. You are the wind beneath my wings.

Horace on January 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM

So gracious.

Cindy Munford on January 10, 2012 at 8:51 PM

.
REALLY! I couldn’t believe MJBrutus stabbed you in the back so quickly!

ExpressoBold on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

I have decided to try to swim with the big fish. I will sell you some history lessons. For you only $1.6 million.

VorDaj on January 10, 2012 at 9:00 PM

But will you give me the whole lesson plan or will you remove some of the subject topics?

I don’t know how you can try to swim. Either you swim or you don’t. Bad analogy.

Midwestprincesse on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Why on earth would people expect Huntsman to drop out after finishing a strong third? Why not ask the same question for those bringing up the rear: Perry, Gingrich, Santorum?

AngusMc on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Time for Anita to figure out she’s not going to be first lady so let Rick Perry throw in the towel and drop the charade.

bw222 on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Frobenius on January 10, 2012 at 9:12 PM

LOL.

MJBrutus on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Romney!!!

therightwinger on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Bwahahaha, Newt substantially closer to Buddy Roemer in vote totals than to Mitt. Mr. Speaker, keep running to the left of Obama and let’s see how quickly you can fall below 10% in SC and FL.

Mitt’s going 50 for 50 in the primaries!

Romney / Thune ’12

ak90049 on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

canopor

Oh, and stay classy, eh?

Curling scores in yet?

Horace on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

so is anyone impressed with this victory?

DBear on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

astonerii on January 10, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Sorry to hear that.

Just remember, candidates come and go.

SCOTUS is forever and I’ll take my chances with any of our guys as opposed to Obama.

BacaDog on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

MJBrutus

You forgot the handwringing. Cindy wring her hands alot to avoid taking a position. Oh dear, oh dear, whatever shall I do?

Of course, she has apparently been posting here since 1967, has the fan club most of the Elderly Gassers have, and as the Elderly Hot Gassers will tell you, longevity in posting on a political blog somehow makes one….uh….well….uh….something or other.

Horace on January 10, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Sink me, but you Frenchies are trying you hand at wit now. Quite amusing that you would even try, but you clearly have no more talent for it than you have for swordplay.

PercyB on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

BREAKING NEWS!!!!

Talk Radio and Flyover Tea Party Conservatives. BIG LOSERS to Talking head Progressive Ruling Classers like Parker / Brooks / Kristol / Noonan / Krauthammer / etc.

They TOLD US Romney was the nominee and what did we do? We jacked around with multiple Big govt loving “Conservative” candidates that split the vote.

They played us again.

DAYYYNG WE ARE STOOOPID!

PappyD61 on January 10, 2012 at 9:15 PM

What are you 12? 16? Is it past your bedtime? You sound like a cranky, spoiled rotten brat that up past it’s bed time.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Rod on January 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Just ignore him. He’s trying really hard to get any attention.

ZGMF_Freedom on January 10, 2012 at 9:15 PM

What are you 12? 16? Is it past your bedtime? You sound like a cranky, spoiled rotten brat that up past it’s bed time.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Rod on January 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM

That’s a real good question. It says nothing nice or positive…ever.

JPeterman on January 10, 2012 at 9:15 PM

What’s with all the Ron Paul hate going on here?

In both Iowa and New Hampshire, Paul won the conservative vote…

Damn neocons.

Aizen on January 10, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Ron Paul is an extremist on war. There is room on the right for someone to make the argument that we should be more cautious when it comes to taking military action, but Paul would neuter us.

McDuck on January 10, 2012 at 9:15 PM

I like Ron Paul.

He is the only non-Romney candidate who isnt a socialist. I didnt know that until 2 days ago. Now I realize how totally disgusting this field is…with the exception of Paul and the next POTUS, Mitt Damn Romney.

Jailbreak on January 10, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Romney asked us to remember what it is to be an American?

I know many of you will never get it, but if you are an immigrant to this country, and applied for US citizenship, and had to wait in line and go through all that crap…the day you become a US citizen is like nothing you can ever imagine. I hope many of you have that feeling one day.

That dream you have that makes you live your family, and not see them for 10 years because you are going to school. That dream that makes you live hand to mouth, for much longer…it is like something you can never imagine. That is why i will fight with the last of my being against people like Gingrich and Perry. Loathsome socialists like them threaten that dream, many of you will not get it, because you were born American, and I don’t begrudge you that fact. America is a beautiful thing…but if you you ever fought to become American, you will fight ever harder not to lose it.

This is why I am supporting Romney. He is the only one who I believe can preserve that dream, because like I do, I know he believes in America.

Chudi on January 10, 2012 at 9:16 PM

ExpressoBold on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

No, it’s fine, just comments not seen. He didn’t do anything wrong.

Cindy Munford on January 10, 2012 at 9:16 PM

foxnewspolitics tweeted:

Paul:

If elected, we will cut at least $1 trillion from the budget in the first year.
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Story metadata:
Submitted 5 mins ago from twitter.com/foxnewspolitics by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on January 10, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Is this Ron Paul speech a “bad lip reading” piece?

Bensonofben on January 10, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Update: The exit-poll coup de grace: “Romney wins among those who say they’re strong supporters of the tea parties.”

Whatever. It’s New Hampshire.

steebo77 on January 10, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Luap Nor’s got the Neo-Nazi/Ku Klux Klan/Holocaust Revisionist voters in a TOTAL lock.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 10, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Look at the statistical models with a third party in play, bad boy. Not the head to head crap the MSM has been dumping on you.

Under every scenario, save the President hitting sub-35% approval ratings, we lose unless we nominate Paul.

bmowell on January 10, 2012 at 9:16 PM

It’s like the Uruguayan rugby team. You have to do what you have to do to survive.

ZGMF_Freedom on January 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Exactly! If the choice is between eating human flesh and voting for Obama, I’m gonna have to eat some human flesh — and given the alternative, cannibalism suddenly doesn’t sound so bad.

Ha!

Rational Thought on January 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Time for Anita to figure out she’s not going to be first lady so let Rick Perry throw in the towel and drop the charade.

bw222 on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

The charade was over yesterday when Perry decided to use the Occupy goons talking points on capitalism.

JPeterman on January 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM

After tonight, I think all the candidates except Romney and Ron Paul should drop out. May the worst man win. I would not be surprised in the least to see RP beat Romney and I would never vote for either. However, at this stage it shows just how irrelevant the Pub. party has become. 18 months ago, I was so excited about the 2012 election and couldn’t wait to work for a conservative nominee. I figured after 8 years of Bush and 4 years of Obama, both progressives and big government, big spenders who bankrupted the country, that the Pub. party would have wised up. Especially after the 2010 elections. But soon thereafter, seeing how incompetent Boehner and McConnell were and seeing the good potential conservative candidates all decide to sit it out, I started losing my enthusiasm as I saw the Pubs. begin to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. As a conservative, I’d have to say at this point, the future looks very bleak for conservatism, and that spells doom for our republic and our freedom.

Enthusiastic with Romney. The father of Obamacare. As a conservative, he excites me about as much as Obama. We are screwed unless he implodes .

they lie on January 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM

JPeterman on January 10, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Agreed.

DrStock on January 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM

I have decided to try to swim with the big fish.
VorDaj on January 10, 2012 at 9:00 PM

I don’t know how you can try to swim. Either you swim or you don’t. Bad analogy.
Midwestprincesse on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Not at all, since “with the big fish” served as the modifier. If it lacked that you’d be correct.

whatcat on January 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM

No, it’s fine, just comments not seen. He didn’t do anything wrong.

Cindy Munford on January 10, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Cindy Munford:Sorry for stepping into it,but i just don’t get what
(his/her) motive is!:)

canopfor on January 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Ron Paul is an extremist on war. There is room on the right for someone to make the argument that we should be more cautious when it comes to taking military action, but Paul would neuter us.

McDuck on January 10, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Charles Lindbergh failed to recognize the danger of fascism and lived to see his mistake. I pray that Ron Paul will never see the result of his failure to recognize the danger of theocratic fascism.

ZGMF_Freedom on January 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM

I like Ron Paul.

He is the only non-Romney candidate who isnt a socialist. I didnt know that until 2 days ago. Now I realize how totally disgusting this field is…with the exception of Paul and the next POTUS, Mitt Damn Romney.

Jailbreak on January 10, 2012 at 9:15 PM

You’ve already said everything in that post at least 10 times on this very thread.

steebo77 on January 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Why on earth would people expect Huntsman to drop out after finishing a strong third? Why not ask the same question for those bringing up the rear: Perry, Gingrich, Santorum?

AngusMc on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Huntsman staked his campaigned on New Hampshire. He spent the most time there out of all the candidates, spent lots of money, and the electorate there gave him the best chance of winning out of the other big primary states. He expected to finish at least second. He has no chance of winning SC. Perry, Gingrich, and Santorum had no such expectations to do well in NH and all have polled well at some point in SC.

GOPRanknFile on January 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Chudi on January 10, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Does being American mean the government can force me to buy a product from a company? Cuz Romney thinks it does.

lorien1973 on January 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Rod

A 63 year old spoiled brat? Hardly.

I am older than you, a Vietnam veteran, have a doctoral degree, have run for public office and won, am smarter than you and obviously nowhere near as crass as you.

You’re way out of your league name-calling me.

Plus, I find name calling like yours very pecksniffian.

That being said – What the hell is wrong with YOU? Boyfriend dump you again?

So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!

Horace on January 10, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Mitt’s going 50 for 50 in the primaries!

Romney / Thune ’12

ak90049 on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

And 10 for 50 in the general.

ddrintn on January 10, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Enthusiastic with Romney. The father of Obamacare. As a conservative, he excites me about as much as Obama. We are screwed unless he implodes .

they lie on January 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM

ROFL…keep dreaming.

Chudi on January 10, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Newt will win S. Carolina!

terryannonline on January 10, 2012 at 9:20 PM

“Conservatism in 1980 knew what it stood for,” said Craig Shirley,

Reagan was Reagan in 1980, but lot’s of people don’t seem to understand what that means. I would expect a biographer of Ronaldus Magnus to understand that, though.

Then again, he’s working for Newt, a real conservative … or something.

reaganaut on January 10, 2012 at 9:20 PM

I have decided to try to swim with the big fish. I will sell you some history lessons. For you only $1.6 million.

VorDaj on January 10, 2012 at 9:00 PM

But will you give me the whole lesson plan or will you remove some of the subject topics?

I don’t know how you can try to swim. Either you swim or you don’t. Bad analogy.

Midwestprincesse on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

As anyone with a modicum of reading comprehension should be able to see I said “I have decided to try to swim with the big fish”, not “I have decided to try to swim”. Since your reading comprehension is so lacking I would have to include pictures with the history lessons, so the price just went up to $1.8 million.

VorDaj on January 10, 2012 at 9:20 PM

The charade was over yesterday when Perry decided to use the Occupy goons talking points on capitalism.

JPeterman on January 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Entering into contracts in bad faith is not capitalism.

ZGMF_Freedom on January 10, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Okay, so when does a pragmatic call to stop slandering Romney begin?

Crefonso on January 10, 2012 at 9:20 PM

I’m making the point that when the time comes, I’m going to be out knocking on doors, making calls and driving folks to the polls on election day to defeat Obama.

I have my preference on a candidate, but he ain’t going to win the nomination.

So, I’ll work my ass off for whoever does.

Will you? Or are you going to snark your way through the election.

BacaDog on January 10, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Snark all the way, baby.

I’ll work for whoever is trying to take down Sherrod Brown.

Good Solid B-Plus on January 10, 2012 at 9:20 PM

LOL at some of you folks who think Ron will utterly destroy our defense. Have you ever looked to see what we spend on defense? For crying out loud, we just built 5 billion dollars worth of military hospitals in Georgia preparing for a war w/ Iran and ready to built even more!

Notorious GOP on January 10, 2012 at 9:21 PM

There goes Ron Paul again–making sense.

Yes sometimes he’s kooky but his view about liberty, the Constitution and the role of gov’t is spot on.

I’m supporting Romney but I would vote for Paul over Obama any day.

Obama is only tough on terrorist because he knows he would never be reelected if he didn’t attempt to keep us safe.
Obama had to play the part of tough guy to avoid being weaker than Carter. Just another con job.

Go Mitt!!

bailey24 on January 10, 2012 at 9:21 PM

Chudi on January 10, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Congratulations!

I work in the IT field, daily with immigrants and nationalized citizens. I know that some in my field look upon these people as competition. As I see it, they are a big part of making the company that I work for and others a growing success. By doing so, more jobs are created by their presence. The result is that while some may see them as competition for a fixed number of openings I see them as a key to making our nation more competitive and not an impediment to my own prospects in any way.

MJBrutus on January 10, 2012 at 9:21 PM

Why on earth would people expect Huntsman to drop out after finishing a strong third? Why not ask the same question for those bringing up the rear: Perry, Gingrich, Santorum?

AngusMc on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

I’m not fully on board with Ron Paul because of the foreign policy, so I was really hoping Huntsman would gain some ground…

Ron Paul is an extremist on war. There is room on the right for someone to make the argument that we should be more cautious when it comes to taking military action, but Paul would neuter us.

McDuck on January 10, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Oh, please. That “extremist” label attributed to Paul is so overblown.

Pres. Bush and the neocons pissed $3,000,000,000,000,000 down the toilet on wars they couldn’t even win in 10 years.

Pathetic. George Patton, Dwight Eisenhower and Barry Goldwater are all rolling over in their graves.

Aizen on January 10, 2012 at 9:21 PM

canopor

I think I’ll act like a jackass. You are the wind beneath my wings.

Horace on January 10, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Horace:This place(Hot Gas)can be a fun area to come to,its like you
walk into a bar,and you go around,spitting on every ones sho
es!!??

canopfor on January 10, 2012 at 9:21 PM

canopfor on January 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Your fine, Horace has just decided not to like me. Sometimes people just don’t click.

Cindy Munford on January 10, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Chudi on January 10, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Does being American mean the government can force me to buy a product from a company? Cuz Romney thinks it does.

lorien1973 on January 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Heck, that is the first non-nutball thing this nutball has written.

If he would stick to that instead of all the brain-dead hatin’ the nutball usually spews, he may actually sway some folks.

cozmo on January 10, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Romney breaks the ceiling, as everybody but the true believer camp knew he would.

They’re probably rushing to register as dems to attempt to stop Romney as we speak.

1punchWill on January 10, 2012 at 9:22 PM

REALLY! I couldn’t believe MJBrutus stabbed you in the back so quickly!

ExpressoBold on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

30 pieces of gold buys a lot of stabbing these days. Hehe.

MJudasBrutus LOL

Frobenius on January 10, 2012 at 9:22 PM

That is why i will fight with the last of my being against people like Gingrich and Perry. Loathsome socialists like them threaten that dream, many of you will not get it, because you were born American, and I don’t begrudge you that fact.

Chudi on January 10, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Mittbots always seem to define themselves by who they hate.

ddrintn on January 10, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Poll: Romney, Paul Tie Obama

And this DOES NOT take into account what will happen when someone other than Paul (probably Gary Johnson) runs third party against Romney and Obama.

The GOP loses if they don’t back Paul. He’s the only one that can pick up all of those who will vote third party.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/poll-romney-paul-tie-obama-20120109

bmowell on January 10, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Exactly! If the choice is between eating human flesh and voting for Obama, I’m gonna have to eat some human flesh — and given the alternative, cannibalism suddenly doesn’t sound so bad.

Ha!

Rational Thought on January 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Heck, now that I think about it, I’ve always liked zombie films. Cannibalism 2012

ZGMF_Freedom on January 10, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Paul has topped out below 25% again.
75% of voters rejected him, again.

crash72 on January 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Mitt’s going 50 for 50 in the primaries!

Romney / Thune ’12

ak90049 on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Apparently you didn’t get the memo: there are 56 primary contests.

steebo77 on January 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Does being American mean the government can force me to buy a product from a company? Cuz Romney thinks it does.
lorien1973 on January 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Do you live in Massachusetts?

Buy Danish on January 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

He is justifiably angry that I misunderstood someone’s comment. All I can and did is apologize.

Cindy Munford on January 10, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Oh, stop performing!
Brutus nailed your little “voice of reason” act perfectly. I find you to be smarmy and disingenuous and yes, an intellectual coward.

“Your head is so sore from all of that thinking
I don’t want to hurt you now,
but I think you’re shrinking.”

chumpThreads on January 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

bmowell on January 10, 2012 at 9:16 PM

This Jewish girl will stay home if that worthless b*st*rd is the nominee.
He is the ONLY one of the current 6 that I won’t vote for under ANY circumstances.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Frobenius on January 10, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Come on, man. You should know by now how sensitive I am :-)

MJBrutus on January 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Romney breaks the ceiling, as everybody but the true believer camp knew he would.

They’re probably rushing to register as dems to attempt to stop Romney as we speak.

1punchWill on January 10, 2012 at 9:22 PM

It was always a floor, not a ceiling.

Ronnie on January 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Paul has topped out below 25% again.
75% of voters rejected him, again.

crash72 on January 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

You guys are funny. LULZ

Notorious GOP on January 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Eh, I realize cindy is loved by many here, but there is no need to be so hard on MJBrutus.

McDuck on January 10, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Brutus had a rep before some of us signed in with the recent open registration. He can come off very harsh.

I understand where you come from on issues and we have differing politicians that we support, but you do it in a cordial manner.

Most of his posts are rude.

Mitt supporters should be nice to Ron Paul voters. You don’t see me attack with venom Ron Paul supporters, Huntsman supporters or the rest. I do attack Mitt supporters, but that’s just because they’re blind.

Midwestprincesse on January 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Unscrupulous Mitt

Why is the right-o-sphere and Romney surrogates eager to shut down discussion of Mitt Romney’s years at Bain? If he was the great businessman and White Knight they claim he was, then why shut down any discussion of his record?

Perhaps they are worried about Mitt Romney’s past business practices and what they say about him as a businessman and a candidate for President.

Whose interests will Mitt Romney look out for? His Own and that of his millionaire campaign contributors.

How do we know? We need only look at his record at Bain. He enriched himself and Bain at the expense of stockholders, taxpayers, debt holders and workers.

JonBGood on January 10, 2012 at 9:24 PM

You’re impressed by Obama, of all people, in that respect?

whatcat on January 10, 2012 at 9:08 PM

No, not at all. He might not have his teleprompter, and I’m sure he’ll do his share of stammering, but you know he’ll get kid glove treatment and guidance from the MSM sycophants conducting the debate so it’ll all be absolutely favorable to him. He’ll be able to lob the biggest bombs at Romney with impunity and everyone will stand back and let him. Count on it.

Romney’s going to have to bring out the big guns and be relentless right back at Obama, and based on some of his debate performances, I’m not convinced he’s up to it. If he pulls a McCain v 2.0, it’s all over.

PatriotGal2257 on January 10, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Not at all, since “with the big fish” served as the modifier. If it lacked that you’d be correct.

whatcat on January 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM

And if only the princess had wings, she could fly … … perhaps. If I must add pictures to my now $1.8 million history lessons, I suppose I could add a few bird pictures.

VorDaj on January 10, 2012 at 9:24 PM

chumpThreads on January 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Leave Cindy alone, you mindless troll!

annoyinglittletwerp on January 10, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Newt will win S. Carolina!

terryannonline on January 10, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Real Clear Politics SC average
Romney 31.3
Santorum 20.7
Gingrich 19.7
Paul 10.7
Perry 5.0
Huntsman 2.3

BacaDog on January 10, 2012 at 9:24 PM

chumpThreads on January 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Dude, I got mad and she retracted the remarks that got under my collar. I was late to the party in seeing it and that’s on me. We’re at peace and there’s no need to stir the pot.

MJBrutus on January 10, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Tea Party……….when they back Romney they prove their date doesn’t even need to buy them a drink to have their way.

I hope you liked that love you got from Mitt………cause you’ll never see him again. You were a one night stand for Romney. Hells Bells, you Tea Party supporters are dumb.

Romney………like Obama, McCain, Dole, and all the Bushes rolled into one.

He’ll be the biggest disappointment EVER to the gop.

PappyD61 on January 10, 2012 at 9:25 PM

All those years of organizing. All those millions. All that hype. All the support the Establishment could provide.

37%. If that’s Momentum, I’m the Prophet Muhammad (blessings and peace be upon him).

spiritof61 on January 10, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Romney breaks the ceiling, as everybody but the true believer camp knew he would.

They’re probably rushing to register as dems to attempt to stop Romney as we speak.

1punchWill on January 10, 2012 at 9:22 PM

The idea of a Romney ceiling at around 25 percent only ever applied to national polls. This is New Hampshire, where Romney has polled around 40% for more than a year.

steebo77 on January 10, 2012 at 9:25 PM

so is anyone impressed with this victory?

DBear on January 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM

At least one of the Fox panels – Hayes, Kristol and Williams – is uniformly unimpressed.

Just Sayin on January 10, 2012 at 9:25 PM

The charade was over yesterday when Perry decided to use the Occupy goons talking points on capitalism.
JPeterman on January 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM

The mask totally fell off when he put that dishonestly edited ringtone of Romney up on his site yesterday and was forced to remove it post haste after he was called on it.

whatcat on January 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM

I don’t dislike or dislike you, Cindy.

canopor

This ain’t the Hot Gas before open reg.

Constant threads of:
“You’re so smart.”
“You,re smart,too”
“Love you.”
“Love you more”

Get used to it. Plus, I’m 63, long past the age of caring what others think or listening to others, such as yourself, who think they can tell me how to behave.

Do-wah-diddy!

Horace on January 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Do you live in Massachusetts?

Buy Danish on January 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

It matters?

As a principle, does government have the right to force you into a contract with another party?

It’s not “you don’t even live there!” argument. It’s a principle.

I can’t people are so vapid as to ignore this basic violation for your freedom.

If you agree it’s okay in MA. The national mandate is just a logical extension. If you want government to be your lord and master, fine. I do not. And Mitt does. It’s really that simple.

lorien1973 on January 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Pffft. Juan Williams pooh poohing Mitt’s victory as lackluster or something. “It’s not a great night”. Stephen Hayes adds: “It’s a fine night, not a great night”. Whatever. Will Palin be on Greta tonight?/

Buy Danish on January 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Mittbots always seem to define themselves by who they hate.

ddrintn on January 10, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Yep, and chupachudi aspires to be a top shelf hatin’ nutball.

cozmo on January 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM

canopfor on January 10, 2012 at 9:06 PM

I had planned on putting in my own two cents worth, but I no longer need to. Well said, canopfor!

OldEnglish on January 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM

They’re probably rushing to register as dems to attempt to stop Romney as we speak.

1punchWill on January 10, 2012 at 9:22 PM

LOL…they don’t want to stop Romney until after he’s nominated.

ddrintn on January 10, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Real Clear Politics SC average
Romney 31.3
Santorum 20.7
Gingrich 19.7
Paul 10.7
Perry 5.0
Huntsman 2.3

BacaDog on January 10, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Insider Advantage Iowa 12/18
Romney 18
Paul 24
Santorum 3
Ginrich 13
Perry 16
Bachmann 10

ZGMF_Freedom on January 10, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Anyone catching Mitt Romney trying to speak,with the music
playing and interrupting him,gawd,he looks pissed!

http://live.foxnews.com/

canopfor on January 10, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Will Palin be on Greta tonight?/

Buy Danish on January 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM

She’s on now!!

BacaDog on January 10, 2012 at 9:28 PM

This Jewish girl will stay home if that worthless b*st*rd is the nominee.
He is the ONLY one of the current 6 that I won’t vote for under ANY circumstances.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

I was wondering whether you would be Jewish or Catholic today. Next time you post your work schedule for Wal-Mart, could you be sure to include your religious affiliation schedule as well? Thanks!

steebo77 on January 10, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Charles Lindbergh failed to recognize the danger of fascism and lived to see his mistake. I pray that Ron Paul will never see the result of his failure to recognize the danger of theocratic fascism.

ZGMF_Freedom on January 10, 2012 at 9:18 PM

I agree — and please know that I am not a Ron Paul supporter — but we cannot win the war against fascist Islam — and let’s face it, that is really what we’re talking about — via military action alone. That emboldens them, turns them into the martyrs their hateful “holy” book tells them it is their duty to become. We need to fight this war with a full-throated, uncompromising, aggressive defense of HUMAN LIBERTY. We need to challenge radical Islam rhetorically, from the highest levels of our government — which we currently do not do, are in fact told we cannot do (it is politically incorrect, intolerant, hateful, etc.). It’s kind of interesting, because while Paul is undoubtedly a champion of human liberty, I don’t know that I’ve ever heard him talk about the plight of women under Islam, or children, or Christians, or non-believers. I hear him talk a lot about “religious freedom,” but warriors for freedom needs to be much, much more about aggressively challenging and rejecting the ideas of radical Islam as entirely incompatible with human liberty. Has Paul ever waded into the debate from that angle? I don’t know.

Rational Thought on January 10, 2012 at 9:29 PM

What does Porky McCain have to say?
She’s my go to analyst.

crash72 on January 10, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Oh, stop performing!
Brutus nailed your little “voice of reason” act perfectly. I find you to be smarmy and disingenuous and yes, an intellectual coward.
“Your head is so sore from all of that thinking
I don’t want to hurt you now,
but I think you’re shrinking.”
chumpThreads on January 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Trig Truther has the temerity to sit in judgment of others.

steebo77 on January 10, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Palin on FOX!!

Aizen on January 10, 2012 at 9:29 PM

steebo77 on January 10, 2012 at 9:28 PM

If you understand Jewishness as an identity apart from religion you would see no contradiction in her.

MJBrutus on January 10, 2012 at 9:29 PM

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