Frum: Maybe we could use a President who knows how to fire people

posted at 1:55 pm on January 10, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

I’ve been a little mystified by the argument, advanced by Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, and Jon Huntsman this week, that Mitt Romney’s experience as a “corporate raider” disqualifies him for the Republican presidential nomination.  Put aside the fact that the attack is based on an absurd exaggeration of Romney’s track record at Bain Capital.  One of the overarching goals of Tea Party conservatives and Republicans in general is the rapid and sharp reduction in the size of the federal government.  How exactly, I ask in my column for The Week, do other Republicans expect to do that without pink slips?

Until recently, Republicans used to cheerlead this very system as providing economic growth and innovation, at least until this week when they became shocked — shocked! — to find gambling in the capital casino. As the Gingrich super PAC uses casino money to proclaim that shock, perhaps another question should be asked of the Republicans joining the outrage. They have all pledged to reduce the size and scope of federal government. Perry, for instance, pledged to eliminate three entire Cabinet-level departments, and Gingrich has made the size of the federal budget a priority, too. Exactly how do they plan to accomplish those goals without cutting jobs — perhaps hundreds of thousands of them? If the arguments for downsizing the federal government are based on red ink, inefficiency, duplication, and waste, perhaps they should explain why those arguments work for the public sector but don’t in the private sector.

Presidential contenders face enormous pressure to win, and the temptation to go all in on a promising line of attack is overwhelming when nothing else appears to be working. However, voters want a candidate that champions economic growth and innovation, not the same kind of class warfare and demonization that has brought us stagnation and misery. If Republicans can’t stand for those principles among themselves, what confidence can we have that they will stand for them in a general election, or in office? And if they argue that downsizing in order to rescue struggling organizations is a disqualification, what confidence can we have that they will have the nerve to reduce spending and the bureaucracy that Republican voters want right-sized?

Jim Geraghty puts it a little more succinctly:

So, here we are, at the day first primary, and the main objection to Mitt Romney from Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry is that he fired a bunch of people? More than his liberal-softie sounding rhetoric in 1994 and 2002? More than his crusade to liberate us from the individual mandate of Obamacare in order to leave the states free to enact their own individual mandates? More than the fact that he’s won exactly one general election in his life, in a year that the left-of-center vote was divided?

Objections to private-sector layoffs from the party that wants to shrink government? How do we think all of those employees of the federal bureaucracy will get of the payroll? Mass alien abductions?

When you think about it, isn’t it possible that the layoffs enacted when Romney was at Bain constitute one of the boldest moves of his career? One of the times he’s been willing to do something unpopular because he thought it was right, and in the long-term interest of the institution he was managing, instead of following the polls and telling people what they wanted to hear?

Much of the focus came upon Romney’s comment that he likes being able to fire people who provide services to him, if he’s not happy with the quality of the service.

You know, the way you can’t with the Department of Motor Vehicles, or the way you can’t (or at least not without Herculean determination) with a crappy teacher at a public school. The way you can’t fire a tenured professor at a state university, whether or not he gives good value for his salary and benefits to those who pay his salary (the students and the taxpayers). The way we can’t take our business to some other government, without leaving the country.

David Frum asks whether good-government conservatives should view this as a plus, and not just in the context of smaller government:

The fact is, presidents (being politicians) get into much more trouble because they hesitate to fire than because they overenjoy it. Donald Rumsfeld lasted for years after it became apparent that his management of the Iraq War was failing. President Obama won’t take action against Eric Holder, not after he bollixed the trial of Khalid Sheikh Muhammed, who has to date faced neither the promised civilian trial nor the substituted military commission. It was son George W. who had to carry the message to White House Chief of Staff John Sununu that he must go, because President George H.W. Bush could not bear to do it. For 13 miserable years, Franklin Roosevelt flinched from firing an incompetent and obnoxious White House cook.

Similar stories could be told about Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. Even the ultra-irascible Richard Nixon delivered bad news in writing via messenger.

If Romney does happen to feel less reluctance to fire staffers and officials than recent chief executives, that could be a presidential feature, not a bug.

It’s doubly true for conservatives who want wholesale reductions in the size and scope of the federal government, too.


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Frum. Now you know who not to vote for.

spiritof61 on January 10, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Those with RDS will reject this and cheer on Lizard. Rush Limbaugh on what Romey’s comeback to Newt should be: “I have fired people, but I never fired a wife on her deathbed”

andy85719 on January 10, 2012 at 1:59 PM

The way to determine whether something is right or wrong is to see what David Frum says, and then do the exact opposite.

Doomberg on January 10, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Exactly. Go Mitt!

Ruiner on January 10, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Objections to private-sector layoffs from the party that wants to shrink government? How do we think all of those employees of the federal bureaucracy will get of the payroll? Mass alien abductions?

Heh, good one. If Obama had dared to fire people he wouldn’t be in the bad shape he (and the country) is in today.

whatcat on January 10, 2012 at 2:01 PM

My excuse is that I don’t believe there will ever be a reduction in government, regardless of who gets elected and what they say. It’s all a pipe dream.

Cindy Munford on January 10, 2012 at 2:01 PM

andy85719 on January 10, 2012 at 1:59 PM

But she’s not dead, so that’s a problem.

Cindy Munford on January 10, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Lets keep up this firing thing and see how it works out in the general…

Mitt just hates people for not being rich like him…
I bet he looks down on minorities too

liberal4life on January 10, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Exactly.

Fire them all!

Also, Gingrich has never governed. He has been a legislator, but never governed. There is a big difference. We do not need another Senator or Congressperson in the White House. We need someone who has governed. That leaves Mitt, Jon Huntsman and/or Perry in my book.

We need someone who is not afraid to fire incompetence especially in the Government programs and agencies. We need a smaller and leaner government for less corruption. That means a lot of folks have to be fired. That means no pensions, too.

Just saying if you keep the pensions, the government is not lean and still ripe for corruption.

uhangtight on January 10, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Looking at Mitt’s MA record, it aint happening. Dont piss on my leg Ed, Romney uses the same disgusting scum against his opponents. politics aint beanbag.

Flapjackmaka on January 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Ugh. We don’t need any help from David Frum. But Geraghty is spot on.

rockmom on January 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM

whatcat on January 10, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Fired people, he hired something like 300,000 in less than four years.

Cindy Munford on January 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Frum being the guy who the other day announced his support for big government to stop us from eating unhealthy food and being lazy.

amerpundit on January 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Bain Capital has been “in” on 2 of the biggest 10 PE deals, HCA Inc., and Clear Channel Communications. HCA seems to have it’s nose above water, but they same can’t be said of Clear Channel.

ZeroHedge has up an old evaluation of the PE sector …

And while these companies life expectations are limited at best, regardless of how Hertz’ lawsuit against anyone who has a sell rating against the firm goes, the biggest threat is to the entire PE industry, which just like the CRE space, will be facing a massive refi threat into 2014. Between 2011 and 2014, there is roughly half a trillion in LBO debt maturing. Add that to the $1.5 trillion in bank debt due for rolling, and the roughly $3 trillion in CRE debt that is also supposed to be refinanced, and one can see how the next president will have his arms full as he/she will need to find a way to roll about $5 trillion in debt without the benefit of securitizations. Furthermore, since the economy will be on stimulus #10 by then courtesy of a drunk with power Obama, America will be on fast track to sovereign and corporate Armageddon.

… no wonder they need a PE expert as President.

J_Crater on January 10, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Those with RDS will reject this and cheer on Lizard. Rush Limbaugh on what Romey’s comeback to Newt should be: “I have fired people, but I never fired a wife on her deathbed”

andy85719 on January 10, 2012 at 1:59 PM

I’m beginning to think that Rush’s endorsement strategy is to alternate buiding up and tearing down all our candidates so he can’t ultimately be blamed for picking anyone. He’s talking out of every side of his mouth today.

BettyRuth on January 10, 2012 at 2:04 PM

“I have fired people, but I never fired a wife on her deathbed”

andy85719 on January 10, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Problem: She’s not dead, she wasn’t dying, and she requested the divorce.

amerpundit on January 10, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Romney glibly said “I like firing people who provide services to me!” and we know he didn’t mean big bloated government, Mr Frum. I’ll bet you 10,000 dollars. Or are we to believe he meant “I like firing governmental agencies that provide services to people!”. Oh much better.

Marcus on January 10, 2012 at 2:05 PM

No one in the field is for small government.

mythicknight on January 10, 2012 at 2:06 PM

liberal4life on January 10, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Are you a mind reader? How do you know what Mitt hates? Or how he feels about minorities? Do you know anything about how to run a company and what makes it profitable? Or how to help salvage a failing company so not all the employees lose their jobs?

No you don’t, your comments bare that out. You are an idiot and would not be able to run a company. Have you ever had a job or been a supervisor or a manager? No you haven’t your comments bare that out, you are a fool.

uhangtight on January 10, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Let’s not forget that Gingrich only served as Speaker for four years, and that in itself was close to a disaster. If he did such a great job, why did Republicans actually lose seats in a midterm election for the first time in decades? His tenure really was a mess and left the Republican majority small and weakened.

rockmom on January 10, 2012 at 2:06 PM

amerpundit on January 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Isn’t he a bit of a chubbett himself?

Cindy Munford on January 10, 2012 at 2:06 PM

“I have fired people, but I never fired a wife on her deathbed”

andy85719 on January 10, 2012 at 1:59 PM

This is a lie. YOU and Rush promotes lies. Leave that to the liberals and the media, though I repeat myself.

Schadenfreude on January 10, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Good lord now we’re supposed to listen to a Canadian liberal tell us who a real conservative is.

I guess it is true. The Tea Party is dead.

angryed on January 10, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Sounds like HoTAir will turn into DNC headquarters this year.

andy85719 on January 10, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Looking at Mitt’s MA record, it aint happening. Dont piss on my leg Ed, Romney uses the same disgusting scum against his opponents. politics aint beanbag.

Flapjackmaka on January 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Lol! The big government “conservatives” are telling us:

Firing in the private sector = good.

Firing in the public sector = bad.

tetriskid on January 10, 2012 at 2:07 PM

uhangtight on January 10, 2012 at 2:06 PM

If you feed trolls, they never go away.

angryed on January 10, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Sounds like HoTAir will turn into DNC headquarters this year.

andy85719 on January 10, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Pretty much.

tetriskid on January 10, 2012 at 2:08 PM

So Newt and Perry are attacking Romney from the Left…which is frankly an accomplishment.

Another look at the fin con bona fides of Santorum, who note, is NOT attacking Romney for being a businessman?

18-1 on January 10, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Anyone who decides to fire an incompetent or redundant goods/ service provider is just like a vulture sitting in a tree.

a capella on January 10, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Isn’t he a bit of a chubbett himself?

Cindy Munford on January 10, 2012 at 2:06 PM

I’m not one to speak but yeah, last I saw him he wasn’t fighting anorexia.

amerpundit on January 10, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Romney said he likes having the ability to fire service providers.

Any GOP candidate that has a problem with that concept is exposing themselves as a pretender. Having the ability to fire an employee is an exceptionally conservative concept. Having a right to one’s job has always been a liberal view.

Those contending for the GOP nod need to be cornered as to where they come down on this significant issue.

EconomicNeocon on January 10, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Comment of the year

Romney smearing Newt – Business as usual

Newt hitting back – Anarchy!1! Scorched earth!! You’re going to re-elect Obama!!

Good Solid B-Plus on January 10, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Schadenfreude on January 10, 2012 at 2:09 PM

I sense a subtle yet distinct tinge of anxiety among the Mittbots. Sort of unexpected amid the media cheerleading and inevitable NH victory. That’s right, he’s under fire now. Not handling it too well, is he?

This is just a small, playful hint of what he’s going to get in Sept/Oct if nominated.

spiritof61 on January 10, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Mass alien abductions?

This is probably the only way either major party will ever actually shrink the size of government. Let’s hope they take the leadership first.

gravityman on January 10, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Also, Rush should not lecture on divorces.

Schadenfreude on January 10, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Romney glibly said “I like firing people who provide services to me!” and we know he didn’t mean big bloated government, Mr Frum. I’ll bet you 10,000 dollars. Or are we to believe he meant “I like firing governmental agencies that provide services to people!”. Oh much better.

Marcus on January 10, 2012 at 2:05 PM

No, he meant that people need to have choices and that providers of services will be more responsive to their customers if they know the customers can fire them. Which is why he wants everyone to buy their own health insurance, rather than get it from the government or their employer where they have no ability to move their business if they are not satisfied.

rockmom on January 10, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Fired people, he hired something like 300,000 in less than four years.

Cindy Munford on January 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Yea, in Mexico and other foreign countries.

stenwin77 on January 10, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Romney smearing Newt – Business as usual

Newt hitting back – Anarchy!1! Scorched earth!! You’re going to re-elect Obama!!

Good Solid B-Plus on January 10, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Heh.

Don’t forget… “You’re a communist” or “Why do you hate capitalism”

tetriskid on January 10, 2012 at 2:10 PM

All these arguments make sense. Firing people is a good thing, if they need to be fired. Lots of govt dead weight needs to be fired.

However we all know very well that

a) in the general election this will be a bad message brought on by a poor messenger

b) even if Mittens is elected, he will not fire a single govt worker. As governor of MA he had 4 years to fire people. How many did he fire? 0. That’s right. Not one single govt position was eliminated while he was governor.

angryed on January 10, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Even David Frum can be right at least once in his analysis. Can’t say I agree with him 100%, but this analysis does give one another perspective and approach to what this Nation needs.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day…

uhangtight on January 10, 2012 at 2:10 PM

No one in the field is for small government.

mythicknight on January 10, 2012 at 2:06 PM

I’d say Paul is. But he’s also opposed to a conservative foreign policy, Jews and sanity.

Santorum is for smaller government. Newt, who the hell knows? Mitt Romneycare? Might as well just re-elect Obama.

18-1 on January 10, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Rick Perry said he wants to do away with three agencies of government… doesn’t doing away with those result in a bunch of pink slips?

justinok on January 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Someone to fire Obama, and then a lot of others sounds good to me.

ParisParamus on January 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Sounds like HoTAir will turn into DNC Romney headquarters this year.

andy85719 on January 10, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Schadenfreude on January 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM

So has anyone heard from Mitty today?

Can’t wait to see the “King of Bain” tomorrow !

stenwin77 on January 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM

So Newt and Perry are attacking Romney from the Left…which is frankly an accomplishment.

Another look at the fin con bona fides of Santorum, who note, is NOT attacking Romney for being a businessman?

18-1 on January 10, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Yup. Rick’s playing this very smartly. Perry and Gingrich are immolating themselves. It will be Romney vs. Santorum by next week.

rockmom on January 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM

So Newt and Perry are attacking Romney from the Left…which is frankly an accomplishment.
Another look at the fin con bona fides of Santorum, who note, is NOT attacking Romney for being a businessman?
18-1 on January 10, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Rush just observed that Newt sounds like Elizabeth Warren.

whatcat on January 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Rick Perry said he wants to do away with three agencies of government… doesn’t doing away with those result in a bunch of pink slips?

justinok on January 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Bet he wouldn’t line his pocket with those employees’ retirement money to build house #15 for Anita.

stenwin77 on January 10, 2012 at 2:12 PM

What a weird few days. Newt sounds like he could be the spokesman for an Occupy encampment and I agree with Dravid Frum.

Roymunson on January 10, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Capitalize the profits and socialize the losses… Romney is to big to fail for Pete’s sake… Socialized Medicine! Free Market Capitalism!

equanimous on January 10, 2012 at 2:13 PM

uhangtight on January 10, 2012 at 2:06 PM

All I know is he delights in firing people.
He is a ruthless vulture and must be exposed as such..
Cant wait till Obama makes a documentary on all the people who lost their jobs so that Romney could have 15 homes and a vacation home in New Hampshire worth millions were he stays once or twice a year. He is the very definition of the 1%

liberal4life on January 10, 2012 at 2:13 PM

I’m pro capitalism anti socialism. Go to DC and start firing people Mitt!! Slaughter the pig.

hanzblinx on January 10, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Rush just observed that Newt sounds like Elizabeth Warren.

whatcat on January 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Oh lord.

RIP Newt.

rockmom on January 10, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Rush just observed that Newt sounds like Elizabeth Warren.

whatcat on January 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Heh. Yeah,……there does seem to be a resemblance.

a capella on January 10, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Rick Perry said he wants to do away with three agencies of government… doesn’t doing away with those result in a bunch of pink slips?

justinok on January 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Perry will not PERSONALLY profit if he guts those agencies

liberal4life on January 10, 2012 at 2:14 PM

The topic is not Capitalism.

It’s the turdfest which Romney and his goons started.

A gold/platinum sprayed horsecaca wreath is still a horseturd wreath.

Live with it.

The Romney folks are as hypocritical and whining as the Obama folks. The last few days have been very revealing.

Ronald Reagan would NEVER approve of the Romney tactics.

Good luck uniting the party…and he speaks of “leadership”. Dearth of it on the left and on the right…the land is scroomed. Go gulching and let the lefties and the dummies on the right perish. They both deserve no less.

Schadenfreude on January 10, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Now I’m beginning to think Rush is giving a nudge to Newt to get out so Santorum has a better chance. As if.

BettyRuth on January 10, 2012 at 2:14 PM

All I know is he delights in firing people.
He is a ruthless vulture and must be exposed as such..
Cant wait till Obama makes a documentary on all the people who lost their jobs so that Romney could have 15 homes and a vacation home in New Hampshire worth millions were he stays once or twice a year. He is the very definition of the 1%

liberal4life on January 10, 2012 at 2:13 PM

LOL. You are very entertaining.

rockmom on January 10, 2012 at 2:14 PM

liberal4life on January 10, 2012 at 2:13 PM

If you feed it, it never goes away.

angryed on January 10, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Perry will not PERSONALLY profit if he guts those agencies

liberal4life on January 10, 2012 at 2:14 PM

No, but his Big Oil pals will sure profit when he closes down the Eneregy Department and the EPA. Right?

rockmom on January 10, 2012 at 2:15 PM

If you feed it, it never goes away.

angryed on January 10, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Speak for yourself.

rockmom on January 10, 2012 at 2:16 PM

I’ve been a little mystified by the argument, advanced by Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, and Jon Huntsman this week, that Mitt Romney’s experience as a “corporate raider”
posted at 1:55 pm on January 10, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

a political blogger is mystified that politicians behave like politicians.
eh! spare us.

nathor on January 10, 2012 at 2:16 PM

stenwin77 on January 10, 2012 at 2:10 PM

LOL! I was talking about The Won and D.C.’s 105% employment rate. I made that percentage up before anyone gets their butt on their shoulders. It’s a joke, don’t ya know.

Cindy Munford on January 10, 2012 at 2:16 PM

LOL. You are very entertaining.

rockmom on January 10, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Will I be this entertaining for you when Obama destroys Romney?

liberal4life on January 10, 2012 at 2:17 PM

liberal4life on January 10, 2012 at 2:13 PM

You dummy – Obama left millions without jobs. Get a new brain. Yer current one is a poor phantom of one.

Schadenfreude on January 10, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Doesn’t anyone understand that our sick economy has been calculated exactly as you are all seeing it come to pass. Both the Republicans and Democrats have went on a spending binge since the early 40’s and along the way they discovered that no matter what happens to our economy even if it gets a lot worse than even now, the world will not allow the USA to collapse. They are interested in a “One World Order” & “ A One World Banking system.” The worse it seems here and the rest of the world, they will sell you the fact, the only way we can get this fixed is to forgive all debt and have a “One World Government.”

Shain1611 on January 10, 2012 at 2:17 PM

My excuse is that I don’t believe there will ever be a reduction in government, regardless of who gets elected and what they say. It’s all a pipe dream.

Cindy Munford on January 10, 2012 at 2:01 PM

this must be the most levelheaded, sensible comment I’ve read on this forum in recent days…and delivered coldly and directly, as it should :-)…

jimver on January 10, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Will I be this entertaining for you when Obama destroys Romney?

liberal4life on January 10, 2012 at 2:17 PM

NO, but it will be entertaining when Obama destroys you and yours. How you deserve it!

Schadenfreude on January 10, 2012 at 2:17 PM

stenwin77 on January 10, 2012 at 2:10 PM

I think Cindy is referring to Obama’s hiring of Federal Workers in less than 4 years. Not that I want to speak for Cindy.. just sayin’ that is what I understood her to mean.

uhangtight on January 10, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Rush just observed that Newt sounds like Elizabeth Warren.
whatcat on January 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Oh lord.
RIP Newt.
rockmom on January 10, 2012 at 2:13 PM

On “RIP” – Rush is ripping Newt a new one.

whatcat on January 10, 2012 at 2:18 PM

The good news for Romney is that, while conservatives don’t like or trust Frum, he is in all the major papers and the indies and moderates will read it.

BettyRuth on January 10, 2012 at 2:18 PM

This is a lie. YOU and Rush promotes lies. Leave that to the liberals and the media, though I repeat myself.

Schadenfreude on January 10, 2012 at 2:07 PM

But if the purpose of this campaign is now on who can talk more liberal talking points then why not attack Newt for a lie that the liberals approve of,

This was Limbaugh’s point today

OrthodoxJew on January 10, 2012 at 2:18 PM

My excuse is that I don’t believe there will ever be a reduction in government, regardless of who gets elected and what they say. It’s all a pipe dream.

Cindy Munford on January 10, 2012 at 2:01 PM

this must be the most sensible and levelheaded comment I’ve read on this forum in recent time….and delivered coldly and directly, as it should :)…

jimver on January 10, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Eye. On. Goal.
Obama out of office in 2012.

albill on January 10, 2012 at 2:19 PM

So, if the president needs the capacity to fire people, Mr Trump uses those words – “You’re fired”. Perhaps it is more of a requirement to be aware of who needs to hear those words.

News2Use on January 10, 2012 at 2:19 PM

You dummy – Obama left millions without jobs. Get a new brain. Yer current one is a poor phantom of one.

Schadenfreude on January 10, 2012 at 2:17 PM

If you feed it, it will never go away.

angryed on January 10, 2012 at 2:19 PM

The good news for Romney is that, while conservatives don’t like or trust Frum, he is in all the major papers and the indies and moderates will read it.

BettyRuth on January 10, 2012 at 2:18 PM

yes, and often invited to comment on CNN, which is yet another indies and mdoerates magnet…

jimver on January 10, 2012 at 2:20 PM

If you feed it, it will never go away.

angryed on January 10, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Good for HA Capitalism. The lefties despise that. Feed!

Schadenfreude on January 10, 2012 at 2:20 PM

On “RIP” – Rush is ripping Newt a new one.

whatcat on January 10, 2012 at 2:18 PM

I don’t know if “ripping” is the right word, but he’s certainly getting his point across….

BettyRuth on January 10, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Attacking capitalism is indefensible.

Defending Mitt Romney is indefensible. He is NOT conservative. He deserves NO respect.

Anyone but Romney.

dforston on January 10, 2012 at 2:21 PM

liberal4life on January 10, 2012 at 2:02 PM

One of the most non-creative posters in recent memory, and there have been some doozies.

DrStock on January 10, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Have we become the French who believe no matter how piss poor your job performance is that you are entitled to keep your job? Really?

maddmatt on January 10, 2012 at 2:21 PM

This was Limbaugh’s point today

OrthodoxJew on January 10, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Limbaugh is flawed, even though some consider him a god. Meh, whatever, to each their own.

Schadenfreude on January 10, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Attacking capitalism is indefensible.

Defending Mitt Romney is indefensible. He is NOT conservative. He deserves NO respect.

Anyone but Romney.

dforston on January 10, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Another excellent comment. Today the HArites are on fire. Carry on, or go gulching. 99% apathy and 1% fire.

Schadenfreude on January 10, 2012 at 2:23 PM

stenwin77 on January 10, 2012 at 2:12 PM

perry aint the candidate w/ multiple houses, better check mittens real estate records.

chasdal on January 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM

How exactly, … do other Republicans expect to do that without pink slips?

Hint: Ed, they are ALL lying. Sorry to break it to you. None of them are going to cut anything… except commercials for themselves.

kunegetikos on January 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Where did Romney create those 100K jobs he keeps talking about?

The communist Chinese are very grateful to him because those jobs were certainly not in America

liberal4life on January 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM

You know, the way you can’t with the Department of Motor Vehicles, or the way you can’t (or at least not without Herculean determination) with a crappy teacher at a public school. The way you can’t fire a tenured professor at a state university, whether or not he gives good value for his salary and benefits to those who pay his salary (the students and the taxpayers). The way we can’t take our business to some other government, without leaving the country.

This is strawman argument. It’s the ubiquitous “Romney really wanted to fire people while Governor.” He really did, but he couldn’t … couldn’t downsize or restructure … couldn’t economize, could fight for better management tools or more flexible union contracts. He just couldn’t.

Then maybe we don’t need a former corporate raider, who likes to fire people, as President when he’s just going to coast while in office, overseeing a bloated, inefficient organization? Maybe we don’t need a “I like to fire people …” candidate who gets up every morning saying, “Ho Hum, another day where I can’t fire people” and off to work he goes.

It seems to me that everything about Romney’s tenure as Governor was I couldn’t do anything that I really wanted to do, so I didn’t try.

Dusty on January 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM

CZAR’S, APPOINTEE’S etc. Fire da bastageez’s!

KOOLAID2 on January 10, 2012 at 2:25 PM

I believe Rush like Perry.

I’m wondering lately why I am paying $50 a year membership to Rush. I believe I will not renew.

When Rush Limbaugh and Mitt Romney are the poster boys for free enterprise and capitalism… ugh.!

At least, I guess, Rush at one time knew what it was like to actually have to work.

stenwin77 on January 10, 2012 at 2:25 PM

The honest ones are coming around to Romney. The lunatic Romney haters are still hanging on.

Keep ‘plucking’ that chicken guys.

mattshu on January 10, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Agree with Frum.

However, if this were any other candidate, Frum would call him heartless.

mockmook on January 10, 2012 at 2:26 PM

“I’ll fire them all!” Yeah, let Romney run on that. Even when Frum’s right, he’s wrong.

de rigueur on January 10, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Anyone who has real experience in business knows that firing people is simple, if painful, but that good managers do not fire people quickly, good managers hire carefully and then train diligently and mentor the employee, taking a stake in their success.

That is how you get great employees that help you beat the competition… any idiot can say you’re fired but what does that do for the business?

And frankly most folks (except in RIF’s) I have had to fire end up firing themselves, that is the best way to do it

Read case studies on Lincoln Electric…great examples

georgealbert on January 10, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Where did Romney create those 100K jobs he keeps talking about?

The communist Chinese are very grateful to him because those jobs were certainly not in America

liberal4life on January 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Don’t forget Mexico !

stenwin77 on January 10, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Put aside the fact that the attack is based on an absurd exaggeration of Romney’s track record at Bain Capital.

Ed Morrissey on Jan 10, 2012 1:55 PM

You haven’t seen anything yet Eddie. If your boy Romney aka Gordon Gecko becomes the Republican nominee the Dems will tear him and this corporation Bain Capital down Herman Cain style.

apocalypse on January 10, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Mitt will NEVER be able to unite the base. It’s over for him now.

stenwin77 on January 10, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Ed, have you watched Speaker Gingrich’s interview with Megyn Kelly today?

Flora Duh on January 10, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Yes, starting with Barry.

galtani on January 10, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Where did Romney create those 100K jobs he keeps talking about?

The communist Chinese are very grateful to him because those jobs were certainly not in America

liberal4life on January 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Good thing he did. If he hadn’t who would finance Alice in Wonderland Halloween parties and separate jets to Hawaii for Barry and Moochelle? If the Chinese weren’t doing well, who would finance Dear Liar’s vacations, slush funds, etc? Certainly not the human leeches who plan on voting for him again.

Kataklysmic on January 10, 2012 at 2:28 PM

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