Quotes of the day

posted at 9:30 pm on January 8, 2012 by Allahpundit

“Thanks to a $5 million donation from a wealthy casino owner, a group supporting New Gingrich plans to place advertisements in South Carolina this week attacking Mitt Romney as a predatory capitalist who destroyed jobs and communities, adding a full-scale Republican dimension to an assault on Mr. Romney’s business background…

“The Bain-centered campaign strikes at the heart of Mr. Romney’s argument for his qualifications as president — that as a successful executive in the private sector, he learned how to create jobs — and advances an argument that President Obama’s re-election campaign has signaled it would employ aggressively against Mr. Romney.

“‘His business success comes from raiding and destroy businesses — putting people out of work, stealing their health care,’ said Rick Tyler, a senior adviser to the pro-Gingrich super PAC, Winning Our Future, which recently bought the film, ‘King of Bain: When Mitt Romney Came to Town,’ after groups backing two other Republican candidates passed up opportunities to use it…

“‘If this is free enterprise, then conservatives should have nothing to do with it,” [Tyler] said. ‘It is predatory paper-shuffling. Mitt Romney was engaged in the engineered destruction of free enterprise,’ including raiding workers’ pension and health care funds to finance corporate takeovers, he said.”

***

“President Obama’s chief campaign strategist David Axelrod today on ‘This Week’ honed his two-pronged attack on GOP frontrunner Mitt Romney, insisting the former Bain Capital CEO’s record and shifting policy positions will undermine his general election appeal.

“‘Frankly I don’t think bringing a Bain mentality to this economy — to running this economy — makes him a strong candidate,’ Axelrod told me. ‘I don’t think shifting and moving around on positions – fundamental positions – is one that people are going to embrace.’…

“‘He is not a job creator he is a corporate raider,’ he added. ‘Those aren’t the values that we want to lead our economy.’”

***

“The young men in business suits, gingerly picking their way among the millwrights, machinists and pipefitters at Kansas City’s Worldwide Grinding Systems steel mill. Gaping up at the cranes that swung 10-foot cast iron buckets through the air. Jumping at the thunder from the melt shop’s electric-arc furnace as it turned scrap metal into lava…

“Apparently they liked what they saw. Soon after, in October 1993, Bain Capital, co-founded by Mitt Romney, became majority shareholder in a steel mill that had been operating since 1888…

“Less than a decade later, the mill was padlocked and some 750 people lost their jobs. Workers were denied the severance pay and health insurance they’d been promised, and their pension benefits were cut by as much as $400 a month.

“What’s more, a federal government insurance agency had to pony up $44 million to bail out the company’s underfunded pension plan. Nevertheless, Bain profited on the deal, receiving $12 million on its $8 million initial investment and at least $4.5 million in consulting fees.”

***

NEWT GINGRICH: Well, I — I haven’t seen the film, but it does reflect ‘The New York Times’ story two days ago about one particular company. And I think people should look at the film and decide. If it’s factually accurate, it raises questions.

I’m very much for free enterprise. I’m very much for exactly what the Governor just described, create a business, grow jobs, provide leadership.

I’m not nearly as enamored of a Wall Street model where you can flip companies, you can go in and have leveraged buyouts, you can basically take out all the money, leaving behind the workers.

***

“Gingrich also repeatedly told viewers to watch a forthcoming anti-Romney movie that Gingrich supporters have bought the rights to. Newt claimed—implausibly—to not have seen it, though he does know that it clocks in at exactly 27 1/2 minutes.

“Newt continued with his bizarre attacks against Romney for being a successful businessman. Seemingly unaware that GOP primary voters worship at the altar of the free market, Gingrich has adopted the DNC attack line that Romney is a modern day Gordon Gekko who delights in laying off American workers to line his own pockets. In Gingrich’s world, lobbying for a sleazy quasi-governmental entity that played a role in the U.S. economic meltdown is preferable to creating wealth in the private sector. Good luck with that message in a Republican primary.”

***

“If nothing else, you in the tea party movement have spent the last three years teaching Americans that we are in a battle for the very soul of capitalism. And here comes Romney, the soul of American capitalism in the flesh. Look back over his career as a predator drone at Bain Capital: Isn’t it the exact sort of background you always insist politicians ought to have as you wave your copy of ‘Atlas Shrugged’ in the air?

“It’s true that Romney said that the bank bailouts of 2008-09 were necessary, while you regard them as a mortal sin against free-market principles. But you shouldn’t hold this against him. Any study of bank history reveals that free-marketeers have no problem doling out, or grabbing for, government money when the chips are down…

“With Romney, a centimillionaire venture capitalist, carrying your banner in 2012, you will finally get to submit your capsized vision of social class to the verdict of the people — the actual flesh-and-blood people, that is, not the corporate ‘people’ who make up the S&P 500.”

***

“[N]ot only is Romney’s Bain record on trial here, so is the whole idea of Schumpeterian, entrepreneurial capitalism where ‘creative destruction’ creates a massive net benefit for society. This is exactly the idea that the Obama reelection campaign is attacking as promoting unacceptable levels of inequality. (Apparently bad government investments — like in Solyndra — that lose jobs are OK.)”

***

Via the pro-Gingrich Super PAC Winning Our Future:

***

“I know what it’s like to worry about whether you’re going to get fired.”

***

Via Mediaite.


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 4 5 6

Here ya go: /s

I am sure you just forgot that.

JannyMc on January 9, 2012 at 8:03 AM

I thought it would take away from the stark contrast I was going for between the important positive points about Palin in your comment and the drooling idiocy of the Palin bashers.

fadetogray on January 9, 2012 at 8:09 AM

I would never wish Palin on this country.

Dante on January 9, 2012 at 8:04 AM

Looks like you are going to get your wish, more’s the pity.

JannyMc on January 9, 2012 at 8:11 AM

Should? You’re implying there was an obligation to support a politician. What happened to independent thought and free will?

Dante on January 9, 2012 at 8:04 AM

Independent thought!?

Please.

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Here ya go: /s

I am sure you just forgot that.

JannyMc on January 9, 2012 at 8:03 AM

I thought it would take away from the stark contrast I was going for between the important positive points about Palin in your comment and the drooling idiocy of the Palin bashers.

fadetogray on January 9, 2012 at 8:09 AM

Oop, my bad. I was expecting to get flogged for posting something positive. Must turn down the paranoia dial. :)

JannyMc on January 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM

2. The 2010 “Tea Party” effort has been completely snuffed out by the BigGov gop leadership.

PappyD61 on January 9, 2012 at 7:22 AM

It’s going to take several election cycles to fundamentally change GOP leadership. No, it hasn’t been snuffed out. This is just part of the necessary process. We at the grassroots level need to continue our efforts in the campaigns of local politicians.

beatcanvas on January 9, 2012 at 8:15 AM

That’s my turf and *I* call BULL.
Just more psy-ops propaganda.
Perry, Gingrich and maybe Santorum here, but RBoy?!? Forget it.

Czar of Defenestration on January 9, 2012 at 7:44 AM

Of course you shouldn’t bet the farm on what the polls show, but it is possible Governor Romney has jumped out in front by that large of a margin.

A Dec. 4-7 NBC/Marist poll showed Speaker Gingrich leading the Governor by 15 percentage points in Florida, 44 to 29.

Just 2 weeks later a poll conducted by News Service of Florida, found them to be virtually neck and neck with Romney having 27% to Gingrich’s 26%.

It could be the effects of the ads being shown here that highlight the troubled way the Speaker left his position in the House and his ties to Freddy Mac.

Flora Duh on January 9, 2012 at 8:15 AM

The trailer sounds a lot like an OWS rally. Newt’s interpretation of capitalism is the same, crony-capitalism Obama is trying to shovel down our throats. Newt’s endorsement of this documentary is just another example of his dislike for private capital, entrepreneurship, and the free market. After seeing this, I could never bring myself to vote for Newt. I would vote third party before I ever pull the trigger for Newt.

HarryBackside on January 9, 2012 at 8:16 AM

Must turn down the paranoia dial. :)

JannyMc on January 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM

Just ’cause you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not really after you.

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 8:16 AM

Great Openning Video…..Hit em hard NEWT!!!

Seems like when he made all that money he forgot one thing…

Have a look….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7ayint66IUs#!

coach1228 on January 9, 2012 at 8:17 AM

Since when do “Conservatives” use the same language and the same anti-Capitalist rhetoric as liberals? The good news is that Romney can bone up on how to deflect this type of attack in the general election.

“‘His business success comes from raiding and destroy businesses — putting people out of work, stealing their health care,’ said Rick Tyler, a senior adviser to the pro-Gingrich super PAC

“‘Frankly I don’t think bringing a Bain mentality to this economy — to running this economy — makes him a strong candidate,’ Axelrod told me.

The Opinionator on January 9, 2012 at 8:17 AM

That’s why Gingrich is the strongest among these clowns – he not only doesn’t fall for the bait, but has the courage to call the individual (usually the media, sometimes another candidate)on the carpet for it.

Czar of Defenestration on January 9, 2012 at 7:42 AM

I agree. Sure, Gingrich’s hypocrisy during the 1990s with wives 1 and 2 is regretable. Yet Clinton is revered for his infidelity.

Romney cannot fight in a rough oral argument. He gets flustered, and then he starts yammering. If independent voters don’t like Gingrich, I say fine. But at least they’ll be rejecting the last convincing explanation of conservative governance before plowing straight ahead into European socialism. Maybe others disagree, but I love how Gingrich just drips with contempt in virtually everything he has to say about Obama. And the left cannot dismiss Gingrich as a kook. After all, he worked with their shining star (Clinton) on welfare reform and balanced budgets. Too much of what Gingrich discusses makes infinite sense. Gingrich will make Obama look like the clueless, community-organizing socialist that he is.

BuckeyeSam on January 9, 2012 at 8:18 AM

Why is Palins name still coming up in these threads? Ron Paul bots and Palin bots: some of the most annoying elements in Republican politics.

gumble on January 9, 2012 at 8:19 AM

grumble would have been a more appropriate moniker, gumble.

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 8:21 AM

but I rest my case.

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 8:22 AM

Just ’cause you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not really after you.

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 8:16 AM

Cautious paranoia is the correct default thinking pattern in the age of Big Government.

They are out to get you.

fadetogray on January 9, 2012 at 8:24 AM

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 8:16 AM

Too true. I am a new poster here but a long time reader. However, I jump on and off during the day because I care for my dad who has Alzheimer’s disease and must heed the call to service when the the need arises. Hate to jump out of a good conversation with you fine people but it is what it is. Apologize to all for the personal nature of this post. Didn’t want to be pegged as a drive-by poster. Good day to you all.

JannyMc on January 9, 2012 at 8:25 AM

I have no problems with Newt having his own Superpac and using it for attack adds.

But it does seem funny for a “Reagan” republican to be attacking a fellow republican for free market capitalism. Seems more like democratic talking points.

gerry-moderate republican-mittbot-wants his own Superpac

gerrym51 on January 9, 2012 at 8:26 AM

Love all you Mittbots…..

Whinning about Gingrich and Tiffany’s…..500K credit line and how he spends his money….as this?

EVERYTHING IS FAIR GAME.

Stop your whinning…..have broad shoulders and take the heating in the kitchen Mittens……politics is not a beanbag.

Now…where have I heard this before?

Remember….you don’t want to run for President if you can’t pay the mortgage….but only if your rich….right McRomney.

Pathetic whinner…..McRomney is going down.

coach1228 on January 9, 2012 at 8:26 AM

Since when do “Conservatives” use the same language and the same anti-Capitalist rhetoric as liberals? The good news is that Romney can bone up on how to deflect this type of attack in the general election.

***

The Opinionator on January 9, 2012 at 8:17 AM

Look, I’m not here to vilify Romney. I don’t think he’s the right candidate for the GOP, but he is the frontrunner. And you can whine about these characterizations, but Romney has to do something to explain that he’s not some Gordon-Gekko speculator. I understand creative destruction. But Romney quite literally will need to find a way to defend every one of his deals while he was at Bain–and even those since he’s gone because I’ve read where his buyout is affected by deals closing after his departure. Look, I’m just telling you that we’re sunk if Romney is the nominee and gets cast as the guy with the investment group that made millions busting up companies while their workers’ underfunded pension plans got pitched to the federal government to administer and to subsidize. It’s a harsh reality, but you need to stop whining and start explaining. Otherwise, Romney will be depicted as a corporate Willie Horton.

BuckeyeSam on January 9, 2012 at 8:27 AM

Why is Palins name still coming up in these threads? Ron Paul bots and Palin bots: some of the most annoying elements in beltway establishment Republican politics.

gumble on January 9, 2012 at 8:19 AM

fify

idesign on January 9, 2012 at 8:28 AM

Independent thought!?

Please.

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Please, yourself. You’re the one who used the word “should”.

Dante on January 9, 2012 at 8:31 AM

In reading some of the comments on this thread I see that some people find it horrible to acquire troubled companies, risk capital, cut expenses including people costs, improve the business model, all in an effort to save the company and gain financial reward. What I just described is capitalism 101.

Most of us here are in favor of reduced government, entitlement reform, tax reform, and spending cuts. For Perry that includes eliminating the departments of energy, education, and one other. (couldn’t resist) This effort will result in loss of jobs, expense cuts, etc. What I describe is fiscal conservativism 101.

What is the difference in in paragraph one vs paragraph two?

Full disclosure: Perry is my first choice for president.

dhugh on January 9, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Dante on January 9, 2012 at 8:31 AM

Ok, Nimrod, supported her running for elective office

That better?

You have to neither like nor agree with her but the very idea that she was not a valid candidate?

C’mon.

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 8:39 AM

Love all you Mittbots…..

Whinning about Gingrich and Tiffany’s…..500K credit line and how he spends his money….as this?

EVERYTHING IS FAIR GAME.

Stop your whinning…..have broad shoulders and take the heating in the kitchen Mittens……politics is not a beanbag.

Now…where have I heard this before?

Remember….you don’t want to run for President if you can’t pay the mortgage….but only if your rich….right McRomney.

Pathetic whinner…..McRomney is going down.

coach1228 on January 9, 2012 at 8:26 AM
======================================

Great post, deserves a repeat!!

georgealbert on January 9, 2012 at 8:40 AM

Look, I’m just telling you that we’re sunk if Romney is the nominee and gets cast as the guy with the investment group that made millions busting up companies while their workers’ underfunded pension plans got pitched to the federal government to administer and to subsidize. It’s a harsh reality, but you need to stop whining and start explaining. Otherwise, Romney will be depicted as a corporate Willie Horton.

BuckeyeSam on January 9, 2012 at 8:27 AM

I agree with you 100%. Ive been screaming for months about this and glad that it’s coming to light now.
Isn’t it errie that what Mitt’s company did by picking winners and losers…and our Governement doing the same with bailouts? I know one is a capitalistic way and the other is socialistic…but the endgame is all the same. People get screwed.
Do I think Mitt is a good candidate…yes…but I do think that Newt is a better one.
Also..this just came out yesterday too about Mitt which is NOT going to help either…Mitt Romney avoids U.S tax by using Offshore bank accounts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7ayint66IUs#!

coach1228 on January 9, 2012 at 8:41 AM

… I can’t help but think that those kinds of sentiments expressed by the constituency that should have supported her would have done more to discourage a run than anything the media and the DNC threw at her.

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 7:56 AM

Should? You’re implying there was an obligation to support a politician. What happened to independent thought and free will?

Dante on January 9, 2012 at 8:04 AM

The notion that we should not say what in our opinion people should have done or we are suppressing the independent thought and free will of people who disagree with us is wildly nonsensical.

fadetogray on January 9, 2012 at 8:46 AM

What is the difference in in paragraph one vs paragraph two?

Paragraph two involves entities which produce no profit.

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 8:47 AM

nor goods. Services, maybe, but services which can be provided more effectively locally.

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 8:49 AM

and for less cost.

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 8:54 AM

In reading some of the comments on this thread I see that some people find it horrible to acquire troubled companies, risk capital, cut expenses including people costs, improve the business model, all in an effort to save the company and gain financial reward.

Yes…agree with the above 100%. However….that is a VERY simplfied way and is NOT really what happens with Bain. Bain…full knowingly well buys these companies with high research on them. Winners or Losers…and the losers are from the start “liquified”. There is NO attempt to “save” them. A Wall Steet company like Bain is there to make money. SAVING is NOT a top priority. Anyone that thinks that is sadly mistaken. It’ has a nice jingle to it but in reality…Bain is a preditory company..and those bought by Bain are chosen at time of purchase as a Winner or Loser.
Again…not saying that it’s good or bad….but this will come up at one point or another…..and let the “people” decide if this is going to be an issue or not.
My thought…during this ecomomy….a BIG YES.
On top of that…what did Bain/Romney do with those profits:
Mitt Romney avoids U.S tax by using Offshore bank accounts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7ayint66IUs#!

coach1228 on January 9, 2012 at 8:56 AM

Isn’t it errie that what Mitt’s company did by picking winners and losers…and our Governement doing the same with bailouts? I know one is a capitalistic way and the other is socialistic…but the endgame is all the same. People get screwed.

Sorry, Coach, but this is all wrong. If Bain had done poorly in its choices of winners and losers, they would have been crushed by the market. If the government does poorly, it is Wall Street’s fault.

So the endgame is the exact opposite.

Sure, some people got screwed either way, but that misses the point about why they really got screwed. The whole idea businesses that cannot even guarantee their own future existence should be making promises to workers about retirement is mindbogglingly wrong.

fadetogray on January 9, 2012 at 8:56 AM

Also..this just came out yesterday too about Mitt which is NOT going to help either…Mitt Romney avoids U.S tax by using Offshore bank accounts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7ayint66IUs#!

coach1228 on January 9, 2012 at 8:41 AM

You know what my first reaction was to that video clip? It was how dare Brian Ross, or any other member of the media, question why Governor Romney hasn’t released his tax returns when they’ve let that sham-meister in the WH skate by for over 4 years without any probing questions into his background.

Just wondering if others will have the same reaction?

Flora Duh on January 9, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Ok, Nimrod, supported her running for elective office

That better?

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 8:39 AM

Not really. It wasn’t the running part or elective office part, it was your use of should, which implies an obligation and eliminates free will.

Dante on January 9, 2012 at 8:57 AM

nor goods. Services, maybe, but services which can be provided more effectively locally.

Are you a registered Republican?

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 8:59 AM

Not really. It wasn’t the running part or elective office part, it was your use of should, which implies an obligation and eliminates free will.

Dante on January 9, 2012 at 8:57 AM

I repeat,

Are you a registered Republican?”

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 9:01 AM

What is the difference in in paragraph one vs paragraph two?

dhugh on January 9, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Also, the entitities in paragraph two are exclusively in the public sector and are financed with taxpayer dollars; those in paragraph one are not necessarily so.

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 9:04 AM

Just wondering if others will have the same reaction?

Flora Duh on January 9, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Flora….yes I agree. But…does that still change the subject?

We know what the MSM is going to do…..as well as Fox News.
They ALL have agenda’s for whatever reasons.

But…does that make everything FALSE?

Romney needs to come out and explain this…and put it to bed.

I personally think it’s an issue….
Yes…I am NOT a Romney fan either but if…and ONLY IF…he is the opposition to Obama…I will vote for him.
However…I do strongly feel that the Dems…..want Romney in the worst way….for whatever reasons.

coach1228 on January 9, 2012 at 9:05 AM

I will post this again since Romney supporters cannot deny the ugly truth:

1. Romneycare with it’s funding for abortions and planned parenthood.
2. Waffling on global warming
3. Having John Holdren as an advisor for carbon caps in MA.
4. supporting Ethanol subsidies
5. Appointing liberal judges in MA.
6. MA being 49th in job creation under him.
7. Raising numerous fees as MA governor.
8. Refusing to call Maobama a socialist.
9. Not being able to handle a Bret Baier interview.
10. Being non existent on the issues of the day over the last 3 years.
11. Saying the era of Reagan was over while running against Ted Kennedy.
12. Overrode the people who voted to lower State tax from 5.3% to 5%.

13. Stood by and said nothing when the people called a Constitutional Convention to undo Gay Marriage decision and the MA Senate President closed without a vote on it.

14. Worked hand in hand for all Gay Rights until 2005 when he decided to run for President.
Apologies for anything I left off.

Even Supported Obama’s Stimulus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU

LevinFan on January 9, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Sure, some people got screwed either way, but that misses the point about why they really got screwed. The whole idea businesses that cannot even guarantee their own future existence should be making promises to workers about retirement is mindbogglingly wrong.

fadetogray on January 9, 2012 at 8:56 AM

Fadetogray: I got your point and I do agree with you. What I am saying here to foster thought is that some companies….like Bain do extensive research on who those “winners” are and “losers” are.
Bain…and companies alike “liquify” the losers….to make money.
OK..fine…but here in lies the problem with that. Bain…was NOT honest and forthright in telling those “loser” employee’s that they are to be “liquified”. That is the premiss of the people who’s lives were affected of being “pissed” and thus the piece coming out about Mitt and Bain.
Another thought to this would be:
Does the “ends” justify the “means”. Apply that to Bain and see what you think….just a thought and your thoughts are well taken by me…..

coach1228 on January 9, 2012 at 9:14 AM

coach1228 on January 9, 2012 at 9:05 AM

I agree with everything you said. Just wanted to let you know what my first reaction to the clip was. I’m already seeing the “Romney is a greedy capitalist pig” narrative being espoused in my Twitter thread.

Flora Duh on January 9, 2012 at 9:14 AM

However…I do strongly feel that the Dems…..want Romney in the worst way….for whatever reasons.

coach1228 on January 9, 2012 at 9:05 AM

They see him as someone they could work with.

What Democrats really fear is a Republican President who will upset the status quo in some way that disrupts their ability to cash in on Big Government. All of the other candidates’ talk is scary to Democrat ears.

fadetogray on January 9, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Why does the GOP and why do these candidates allow these liberal dbags to moderate our debates?? Do we want to waste time talking about banning contraception or spend 20 minutes talking about gay marriage?

I like that Newt threw it back at them alittle bit, but why do we stand for this? Could you imagine Michelle Malkin, Rush, and Levin moderating a Democrat debate?

Not one question about Fast and Furious, the Pipeline, etc.

The stakes are too high and we’re wasting time with this garbage. And don’t forget the last question: “If you weren’t here tonight what would you be doing?”

What a disgrace.

LevinFan on January 9, 2012 at 9:17 AM

LevinFan on January 9, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Nicely done.

My take.

kingsjester on January 9, 2012 at 9:19 AM

I repeat,

Are you a registered Republican?”

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 9:01 AM

Repeat? How could you repeat something you never said to me before?

Not only no, but hell no.Why?

Dante on January 9, 2012 at 9:23 AM

They see him as someone they could work with.

What Democrats really fear is a Republican President who will upset the status quo in some way that disrupts their ability to cash in on Big Government. All of the other candidates’ talk is scary to Democrat ears.

fadetogray on January 9, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Hmmm…I see your point.
However…that is presuming that Mitt is the President right?

I for one…don’t want to get ahead of the game. We still have a ONE on ONE election with the Marxist and if the role was reversed, what Dem possible candidate can We(GOP) beat? Yeah…I will talk up the weakest most vunerable candidate to help “the cause”.
Do you see my point? Those who Dems attack the most is the ones they fear the most…..IMHO.

coach1228 on January 9, 2012 at 9:23 AM

Not only no, but hell no.Why?

Dante on January 9, 2012 at 9:23 AM

That explains it.

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 9:26 AM

I for one…don’t want to get ahead of the game. We still have a ONE on ONE election with the Marxist and if the role was reversed, what Dem possible candidate can We(GOP) beat? Yeah…I will talk up the weakest most vunerable candidate to help “the cause”.
Do you see my point? Those who Dems attack the most is the ones they fear the most…..IMHO.

coach1228 on January 9, 2012 at 9:23 AM

Actually, they ignore the one they fear the most.

And there is no one-on-one election; there are more than two candidates on a ballot.

Dante on January 9, 2012 at 9:27 AM

Actually, they ignore the one they fear the most.

And there is no one-on-one election; there are more than two candidates on a ballot.

Dante on January 9, 2012 at 9:27 AM

I for one…don’t want to get ahead of the game. We still have a ONE on ONE election with the Marxist and if the role was reversed, what Dem possible candidate can We(GOP) beat?

From my statement…in bold….technically your right if there is a 3rd party. However…that was NOT my assumption. Obama vs the GOP….one on one.

I couldn’t disagree with you more. Reverse the roles…ingnorance is a sign of “NON THREAT”. Why waste time on a NON contender?

coach1228 on January 9, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Mitt Romney avoids U.S tax by using Offshore bank accounts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7ayint66IUs#!

We don’t know that he avoided U.S. Tax by using an offshore bank account. The law requires all taxpayers to report all income no matter whether the source is domestic or foreign. There is a check box on Form 1040 Sch B line 7a that each taxpayer attests that they either have or not an interest in a foreign bank account. If Romney disclosed that on his campaign disclosure form I would also assume that he disclosed any foreign deposits and income on his tax return. If he didn’t, he has got a real big problem.

It is a myth that you can legally avoid income taxes by having an offshore bank account. Operative word is “legally”.

dhugh on January 9, 2012 at 9:53 AM

If you’re a candidate in the Republican field, there’s plenty of room to be attacking Romney from the right. The fact that Newt has instead seen fit to descend into the tired, anti-capitalist class warfare approach clearly illustrates that the Newt Gingrich of the early debates was the exception, the Gingrich of the Pelosi couch, the Scozzafava endorsement and the “right wing social engineering” charge is the rule. I’ll pass.

fitzfong on January 9, 2012 at 10:20 AM

fitzfong on January 9, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Newt is not the choice for serious conservatives. Romney may not be either but he is way better than Newt.

dhugh on January 9, 2012 at 10:31 AM

“Newt continued with his bizarre attacks against Romney for being a successful businessman. Seemingly unaware that GOP primary voters worship at the altar of the free market, Gingrich has adopted the DNC attack line that Romney is a modern day Gordon Gekko who delights in laying off American workers to line his own pockets. In Gingrich’s world, lobbying for a sleazy quasi-governmental entity that played a role in the U.S. economic meltdown is preferable to creating wealth in the private sector. Good luck with that message in a Republican primary.”

Yes…and WE HERE IN AMERICA ARE ALL FOR AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM AND AMERICAN CAPITALISM!!! RIGHT ON!!
HOWEVER!! The article fails to mention that those BAIN created jobs were mostly “oversea” jobs. In addition…..the assests and equipment from those “liquidations” went to oversea companies.
Also…didnt Mitt say: “Corperations are People too”?
If Bain was “so good”..then my question is for who? Certainly not Americans. Does Bain’s “end’s justify it’s means?”.

Here is some more interesting tid bits on Romney:
Out today:

Mitt Romney avoids U.S tax by using Offshore bank accounts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7ayint66IUs#!
Goldman’s switch

Honchos back Mitt over Bam

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/goldman_switch_E4hhnt8pMa0JtFySyd1JgJ

May the vetting go on…..and the BEST candidate win…PERIOD!!
If for one….do NOT want to be force fed a candidate.

coach1228 on January 9, 2012 at 10:42 AM

dhugh on January 9, 2012 at 9:53 AM

coach1228 on January 9, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Please note my post earlier regarding the tax avoidance with offshore bank accounts.

dhugh on January 9, 2012 at 10:57 AM

This thread is still going?? Rominee hatefest ?? Look – Mitt is RICH- He is an evil capitalist- He even believes in Profit !! Are there losers? yes- Companies fail – Has offshoring killed jobs?? Have Unions killed jobs ?? Trying to present this as an achilles heel?- by team obie only invites Solyndra and Rezko and the $250,000 electric car boondoggles- and THATS a conversation we need to have.

Stop looking for the Perfection Candidate- There was only One Perfect Candidate- ever – and we need to get him the hell out of DC.

FlaMurph on January 9, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Go get ‘em, Newt!!! Thank You, Lord for sending us “a wealthy casino owner!”

Colatteral Damage on January 9, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Somebody tell me … WHERE IS THE TEA PARTY FOLKS WHEN YOU NEED ‘EM???

Colatteral Damage on January 9, 2012 at 2:38 PM

RINO Romney (aka Obama-Lite). Apparently the Iowa fever (COWPIES-FOR-BRAINS) has spread to New Hampshire and South Carolina, where the TEA Party should recall their governer!?!

Colatteral Damage on January 9, 2012 at 2:42 PM

In reading some of the comments on this thread I see that some people find it horrible to acquire troubled companies, risk capital, cut expenses including people costs, improve the business model, all in an effort to save the company and gain financial reward. What I just described is capitalism 101.

Most of us here are in favor of reduced government, entitlement reform, tax reform, and spending cuts. For Perry that includes eliminating the departments of energy, education, and one other. (couldn’t resist) This effort will result in loss of jobs, expense cuts, etc. What I describe is fiscal conservativism 101.

What is the difference in in paragraph one vs paragraph two?

Full disclosure: Perry is my first choice for president.

dhugh on January 9, 2012 at 8:36 AM

“All in an effort to save the company”

NOT at all what Bain & Romney did to that steel mill. This was all for the sake of profit alone, rather than an attempt to save anything. And the fact you support this type of vulture behavior is a bit disturbing. Is steel a commodity we STILL use in the US or not? Think about your argument and how the facts surrounding this steel mill actually fit.

They don’t. And THAT’S why I won’t vote for Romney (well, that AND RomneyCare and his record as governor of MA).

There’s a true difference between free market capitalism and what you support with Romney. Free Market Capitalism is the opportunity to create (not destroy) and if it’s a good idea, people will come.

This is NOT the same as what Romney (and many others on Wall Street), and you know it. They may have that right, but I also have the right NOT to support him, financially OR politically.

Oh, and PS – I NEVER heard your definitions used when I was in grad school (getting an MBA no less).

Miss_Anthrope on January 9, 2012 at 4:43 PM

That explains it.

Cleombrotus on January 9, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Explains what, why you keep evading my point?

Dante on January 9, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Comment pages: 1 4 5 6