Rasmussen in SC: Romney 27, Santorum 24

posted at 9:20 am on January 6, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

The last we saw of South Carolina polling three weeks ago, Newt Gingrich had a large lead over Mitt Romney, the only two candidates in double digits, and Rick Santorum tied Jon Huntsman for last place.  My, how things have changed over the Christmas holidays.  After their dead-heat finish in Iowa, Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum now lead the latest Rasmussen poll 27/24, respectively, and Gingrich has dropped to 18%:

What a difference a caucus makes. Rick Santorum who two months ago had one percent (1%) support among likely South Carolina Republican Primary voters now is running a close second there with 24% of the vote.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the Palmetto State finds former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney still in the lead, earning 27% support from likely GOP Primary Voters, up from 23% in early November. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is in third with 18% of the vote, followed by Texas Congressman Ron Paul at 11%.

Bringing up the rear are Texas Governor Rick Perry with five percent (5%) and former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman at two percent (2%). Another two percent (2%) of these likely primary voters like some other candidate, and 11% remain undecided.

Ron Paul doesn’t appear to have gained a lot of traction in the same period.  The RCP average had Paul at 8.5% for December before today’s Rasmussen poll, but the mid-month Clemson poll had him at 10%.  His surprising drop in Iowa to third place has not hurt him, but he’s not picking up any momentum, either.  Rasmussen’s sample is 74/26 Republicans to independents, so it isn’t as if the survey of 750 likely primary voters (conducted in its entirety yesterday) tried to avoid Paul’s base, either.

Looking at the internals, Santorum competes better in some demos with Romney.  He edges Romney among men, 27/25, but is behind 30/20 with women and almost tied with Gingrich at 19%.  Surprisingly, Romney edges Paul for voters under 40, 25/22, with Santorum in third at 16%.  Santorum tops Romney with 40-64YOs 30/22, but Romney wins seniors by a large margin, 41/25 over Gingrich, with Santorum in third again at 18%.   Romney and Santorum win among Republicans and non-Republicans, 29/25 and 23/21, respectively.  Paul only manages a 19% with independents and just 8% among Republicans.

Romney has a bigger problem with very conservative voters.  He comes in third among this self-identified set, which comprises the plurality in the sample (41%), behind Santorum (36%) and Gingrich (22%).  Santorum has a problem among “somewhat conservative” voters, as Romney wins 38% and Gingrich comes in second at 20% among respondents who accounted for 35% of the sample.  Santorum will have to find a way to increase his appeal beyond the very conservative base, while Romney has to work in the opposite direction.

Santorum may have the edge in making that case.  His favorability rating is 72%, a bit higher than Romney’s 68% and Gingrich’s 59%.  Romney gets a 65% favorability among very conservative voters, but Santorum has a 74% rating with somewhat conservative voters, so he has more potential upside in the demo he needs to target.  Paul’s favorability is only 39%, which beats Jon Huntsman’s 29%.  Rick Perry gets to 50%, but only 9% find him “very favorable,” which portends a very poor showing for the Texas governor in a couple of weeks.

The news has to be encouraging to both Romney and Santorum.  Romney was not expected to do well in South Carolina, but his numbers have improved quite a bit over the last three weeks, and two-thirds of voters in this poll expect him to win the nomination, while 45% believe he’s the strongest candidate to beat Obama in the fall.  Only 16% believe that of Santorum, which means his support outstrips his perceived viability.  A second-place finish in New Hampshire might improve that number and perhaps add more to his support, but that may come at the expense of other conservatives in the race rather than Romney.

 

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This shows one thing. Santorum has the momentum

social-justice on January 6, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Santorum will fall. As will Gingrich. Total opening for Perry.

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Too bad for Gary Johnson he got out. Surely he woulda been at 24% for fifteen minutes eventually.

Akzed on January 6, 2012 at 9:26 AM

I’ll make the prediction that South Carolina finishes with Santorum and Gingrich 1 and 2, and Mittens goes third.

MSM message: “an unexpectedly positive and impressive 3rd place showing for Romney, who is now clearly the nominee.”

shannon76 on January 6, 2012 at 9:28 AM

When will the oppo file from the Romney team hit the talking points crowd? Gotta get it to the questionners in the debates or there is not enough time for it to circulate amongst the voters in NH. Maybe the Romney team was too cute by half in getting the primary so close to Iowa.

txmomof6 on January 6, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Santorum will fall. As will Gingrich. Total opening for Perry.

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Are you being serious? He’s at 5% in this poll. He’s not coming back from his collapse.

As for Santorum’s rise, either he or Newt have to decide who takes one for the team and drops out to endorse the other. They’re splitting the conservative vote right now and it’s gonna wind up handing the nomination to Mittens.

Doughboy on January 6, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Expect this to fluctuate heavily over the next 15 days.

Romney’s up on TV in South Carolina with 4000 pts of television ads, already heavily outspending everyone else. So far, mostly positive, but could shift — in a second — into an all out bombing campaign against Santorum.

Santorum, if he can get on TV soon and get seriously active on the ground, could very well overtake Romney.

Newt, for some reason, still hasn’t put up an ad in SC, but even he’s within striking distance if he can get some forward momentum from this weekend’s debates.

Perry’s hope is to throw a knockout punch against Romney, Santorum, or Newt. Perry’s got a history of running incredibly tough ads in Texas when circumstances call for it, so don’t be surprised to see a material tonal shift in how Team Perry approaches the next phase of the campaign.

Robert_Paulson on January 6, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Mitt is gonna lock this race up by Flordia….then on to Obama!!!!

rubberneck on January 6, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Perry’s numbers are disappointing…

OmahaConservative on January 6, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Santorum will fall. As will Gingrich. Total opening for Perry.

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 9:26 AM

If Santorum AND Gingrich don’t fall before SC/Florida, then it’s going to be too late for Perry to recover. I find it extremely unlikely he will make a recovery, not with his favorability ratings where they are and not where his poll numbers the way they are.

The Perry supporters are facing the same dilemma as the Palin supporters back in October, and they had best make up their minds soon. While I’m hopeful Romney can be stopped after his pathetic showing in Iowa, time is growing very short.

Doomberg on January 6, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Saturday’s debate will be huge for Santorum…

thedevilinside on January 6, 2012 at 9:30 AM

This shows one thing. Santorum has the momentum

social-justice on January 6, 2012 at 9:24 AM

So what? The important thing is that Newt is down. Santorum is irrelevant as he is nothing more than not-Romney.

CaliforniaRefugee on January 6, 2012 at 9:31 AM

One candidate shows strength in all three regions so far, the Midwest, New England, and the South.

People competes in SC. The others get smoked in NH. This really isn’t a race anymore.

swamp_yankee on January 6, 2012 at 9:31 AM

This appears to look good for Santorum. I still agree that Perry and Newt will siphon votes from him though probably. Mitt will win this thing.

Roymunson on January 6, 2012 at 9:32 AM

I wonder if it will hold up for Santorum. He hasn’t begun to get the media scrutiny the frontrunners get.

CoffeeLover on January 6, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Santorum will fall. As will Gingrich. Total opening for Perry.

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 9:26 AM

“Hotair discovers little known early voting primary state!”

Theworldisnotenough on January 6, 2012 at 9:32 AM

If Perry rises Santorum has no place but to move south. Perry will spend the rest of his cash in SC.

rubberneck on January 6, 2012 at 9:33 AM

How did in the world did we allow a liberal to be the republican nominee after months of raging about Obamacare?

social-justice on January 6, 2012 at 9:33 AM

um typo…

Theworldisnotenough on January 6, 2012 at 9:33 AM

Doughboy on January 6, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Not kiddin!

I’ll eat a few hats if I’m wrong.

I suppose I forgot to add some caveats since in posting quick from my phone:

His campaign needs a huge recharge and shift in manpower to make things happen. If they continue the same old same old he’s done.

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 9:34 AM

I wonder if it will hold up for Santorum. He hasn’t begun to get the media scrutiny the frontrunners get.

CoffeeLover on January 6, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Exactly. He is nothing more than not-Romney and that will never hold.

CaliforniaRefugee on January 6, 2012 at 9:35 AM

Perry’s hope is to throw a knockout punch against Romney, Santorum, or Newt. Perry’s got a history of running incredibly tough ads in Texas when circumstances call for it, so don’t be surprised to see a material tonal shift in how Team Perry approaches the next phase of the campaign.

Robert_Paulson on January 6, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Perry is in single digits all over the country. He is starting to look pathetic.

Theworldisnotenough on January 6, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Hot Gassers for Perry!

John the Libertarian on January 6, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Polls just encourage the trolls.
I wish they had 3 or 4 states that were more populated and diverse, having the first primaries.
Iowa has way too much influence…way too much.
JugEars came out of there.

KOOLAID2 on January 6, 2012 at 9:37 AM

The GOP is pathetic.

The two worst candidates, both with a history of big government attitudes and pandering, are leading the pack.

Meanwhile, the candidate with the best economic plan (Gingrich) and the candidate with a proven executive record (Perry) languish. Huntsman is more conservative than Santorum and Romney.

You Mittbots can brag all you want… but winning votes does not amount to accomplishing anything (see: Obama). You’re the same squishes I’ve been fighting in the party since 1988. You’re the people who cheered Bob Dole’s victory over the “extremists” in the party in 1996 and the people who empowered the Bush/Rove “Compassionate Conservatism” debacle.

You’re tax collectors for the welfare state.

mankai on January 6, 2012 at 9:38 AM

Is the Tea Party still around? If so, is Santorum really the guy they have selected?

http://youtu.be/vLQnoVpkyqc

Where is Demint? Where is Palin?

caverduc on January 6, 2012 at 9:38 AM

If Romney is able to sustain that number, or something close to it, this thing is over. I don’t think Santorum will be able to maintain his numbers, and I doubt Gingrich is improving his any…Perry, meanwhile, might as well have gone back to TX. He should be in the top 3, minimum, at this point.

Looks like I picked a bad election cycle to quit amphetamines. /s

changer1701 on January 6, 2012 at 9:39 AM

Mitt is gonna lock this race up by Flordia….then on to Obama!!!!

rubberneck on January 6, 2012 at 9:30 AM

… and his second term!

I wonder how well Santorum does in SC once they learn about his pro-union record?

Punchenko on January 6, 2012 at 9:41 AM

The GOP is pathetic.

The two worst candidates, both with a history of big government attitudes and pandering, are leading the pack.

I agree.

The top two guys in this poll would both force me to vote third party in the general election. Par for the course so far with this horrible field of candidates.

Luckily, this is still a fluid race, and Santorum is unlikely to maintain his flavor-of-the-month poll standings by the time people take to the polls in SC. I’m rooting for a Perry comeback.

DRayRaven on January 6, 2012 at 9:42 AM

Romney will win 50 in a row.

When was the last time that happened in a primary with no incumbent?

itsnotaboutme on January 6, 2012 at 9:43 AM

Looks like I picked a bad election cycle to quit amphetamines. /s

changer1701 on January 6, 2012 at 9:39 AM

Love all Airplane! references -> “…and Leon’s getting larger”

CaliforniaRefugee on January 6, 2012 at 9:43 AM

This will shift after New Hampshire. Look for a Huntsman surge in NH.

NickDeringer on January 6, 2012 at 9:44 AM

The one factor that political analysts always forget to take into account is how quickly states fall in line. It’s the mistake Rudy Giuliani made in 08. When you make a poor showing in IA/NH (or don’t bother to really show up at all), you will be over before you begin. The idea that SC, MI, FL, etc. stick with whoever their first choice was in November regardless of where they place in the earlier states is just not borne out in reality.

That’s why we need to ditch this system and have all the states vote on the same day. Or, at the very least, a rotating system for early states. And I’m, at this point, a Romney supporter saying this.

athenanyc on January 6, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Not kiddin!

I’ll eat a few hats if I’m wrong.

I suppose I forgot to add some caveats since in posting quick from my phone:

His campaign needs a huge recharge and shift in manpower to make things happen. If they continue the same old same old he’s done.

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Dude spent millions on TV ads in Iowa. He had a pretty decent ground game there. And it made no difference. Granted, South Carolina is a more friendly state, but look at the poll numbers. He’s at 5%! Unless he absolutely smokes everyone at the next couple debates(and this is Rick Perry we’re talking about here, so we can dismiss that fantasy), there’s nothing he can do to turn this around. Interviews won’t help. TV spots won’t matter. Retail politics could make a marginal difference, but not enough to close the deficit he currently faces.

Perry’s problem is that electability is a crucial factor this election. It’s the only reason Mittens is doing as well as he is, because we know people aren’t drawn to his “conservative” record or his personal charm. And those gaffes at the debates frankly scare the crap out of too many voters when it comes to Perry’s viability as a general election candidate. We can’t afford giving the nomination to someone who could blow the entire thing in a span of 60 seconds.

Doughboy on January 6, 2012 at 9:45 AM

It’s all moot. Obama will cruise to victory no matter which crappy candidate the GOP tells us we need to vote for. The economy has turned the corner and will be improving steadily from now on. I am glad to know that the weasel from Boston, Detroit, Salt Lake City New Hampshire won’t ever be president.

angryed on January 6, 2012 at 9:45 AM

Romney will win 50 in a row.

When was the last time that happened in a primary with no incumbent?

itsnotaboutme on January 6, 2012 at 9:43 AM

It’s the 51st vote that’s the problem.

He’ll lose that one… and even if he did beat Obama, his tax proposal is Obama-lite and he has no real discernible plan for undoing the Socialist State.

mankai on January 6, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Huntsman is more conservative than Santorum and Romney.

mankai on January 6, 2012 at 9:38 AM

Huntsman shouldn’t have gone straight for the squishy middle. Big strategic error.

John the Libertarian on January 6, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Obama must have to pinch himself every morning. No sir, it’s not a dream.
Perry I’d happily vote for, Romney-Gingrich I’d squeeze my nose ’till it broke, Santorum I wouldn’t bother leaving the house.

Marcus on January 6, 2012 at 9:46 AM

This will shift after New Hampshire. Look for a Huntsman surge in NH.

NickDeringer on January 6, 2012 at 9:44 AM

:-\

You might be even more delusional than me.

BUT I SURE HOPE YOU’RE RIGHT!!! :-)

Abby Adams on January 6, 2012 at 9:47 AM

Santorum

is behind 30/20 with women

Ouch! And these are supposed to be very conservative women.

rhombus on January 6, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Romney/Snowe ’12!!

inthemiddle on January 6, 2012 at 9:48 AM

If Santorum can keep Romney from running the board, then it’s all too the good. This is the one thing that Santorum, Gingrich, Perry, and Paul supporters should agree on.

abobo on January 6, 2012 at 9:48 AM

mankai on January 6, 2012 at 9:38 AM

Bring on the butthurt.

Red Cloud on January 6, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Love all Airplane! references -> “…and Leon’s getting larger”

CaliforniaRefugee on January 6, 2012 at 9:43 AM

It’s an entirely different kind of election. Altogether.

Doughboy on January 6, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Mitt is gonna lock this race up by Flordia….then on to Obama!!!!

rubberneck on January 6, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Probably right. Then the question becomes can he beat a weak Obama with many Independents (uninspired) & true conservatives (pissed that establishment repulicans – who are almost as guilty as the Dems for our 17 trillion $ debt – won again) either sitting it out or voting for a third party.

noeastern on January 6, 2012 at 9:50 AM

Gingrich let his ego write checks his support base couldn’t cash, if Santorum remains humble he has a better chance of taking off. It sure is going to be interesting to watch the Republicans rally around a guy they tried desperately to find an alternative for come November.

Cindy Munford on January 6, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Huntsman shouldn’t have gone straight for the squishy middle. Big strategic error.

John the Libertarian on January 6, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Huntsman shouldn’t have gone straignt into working for Obummer once he got elected. That was enough to turn me off right away.

Roymunson on January 6, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Doughboy on January 6, 2012 at 9:45 AM

You make good points, but all I’m saying is that there will be a hole; an opening for someone. Santorum won’t stand up to scrutiny, Gingrich will continue his cantankerous decline, and there’s going to be an opportunity for Perry. If he makes the right moves, he can take advantage of this.

He has the time to strengthen himself in SC. There’s plenty of time left. He’s got two weeks. If he can make a good showing in SC, he gives himself the reason to continue on to FL. Stranger things have happened. People have come back from similar situations. Perry should in no way leave this race so long as he has money to spend, and some people supporting him.

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Gingrich is probably the only option besides Romney. Perry ain’t coming back and Santorum is a joke.

jhffmn on January 6, 2012 at 9:53 AM

The GOP is pathetic.

The two worst candidates, both with a history of big government attitudes and pandering, are leading the pack.

i agree with you on this point.

svs22422 on January 6, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Hope Perry can break thru double digits post debate

cmsinaz on January 6, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Huntsman shouldn’t have gone straignt into working for Obummer once he got elected. That was enough to turn me off right away.

Roymunson on January 6, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Huntsman was ambassador to China. He wasn’t Obama economic adviser or his AG or Treasury Secretary. Ambassadors are nice plum cushy jobs that everyone wants, but they’re not overtly political. This is a very minor sin IMO and a potentially good candidate was brushed aside it.

angryed on January 6, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Hope Perry can break thru double digits post debate

cmsinaz on January 6, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Ain’t gonna happ’n. All that’s left is Romney and not-Romney.

CaliforniaRefugee on January 6, 2012 at 9:59 AM

I am also wondering where is the Tea Party, if they don’t show up soon the nomination is locked for Mitt and that means Obama for second term. I really doubt if they are still relevant.

evergreenland on January 6, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Hope Perry can break thru double digits post debate

cmsinaz on January 6, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Perry needs a few things:

1) His best performance yet in this next debate.

2) An ad rush in SC that doesn’t even talk about the other candidates. Go right for Obama’s throat. Pretend as if the others don’t even exist.

3) He needs to run himself ragged in SC doing more stops than any other single candidate. Morning, noon, and night.

4) Change staff

5) Spend every penny in SC. If he does well, fundraising shouldn’t be a problem to make a stand in FL.

Call me crazy, but it can happen!

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 10:01 AM

I don’t think the Romney team was counting on a big story on the Friday before NH being the arguments in the ObamaCare case which are expected to be filed today. Of course, they will probably just ignore them because his refusal to disavow the individual mandate in RomneyCare is one of the biggest reasons 75% of the GOP don’t want him.

txmomof6 on January 6, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Please remember about SC that it is an open primary, meaning ANYONE can vote, and with the Feds holding back on the immigration bill there, that means ANYONE CAN VOTE there, you don’t even have to prove who you say you are. I believe they also allow for day of voting registration.

I am still going with what I said the other day, that Mitt would win at least 4 of the first 5 primaries/caucuses. He may or may not win SC, but if he does pull it out, inevitably will set in, and some will definitely drop out.

If Perry or Santorum have a bad showing in SC, look for them both to drop out. Santorum because out money and Perry because his donors will question his candidacy.

ConservativePartyNow on January 6, 2012 at 10:02 AM

People haven’t made up their minds yet. The conservative element of the electorate are continually fluid. There’s still an opportunity, but the right things need to be done.

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 10:02 AM

The GOP is pathetic.

The two worst candidates, both with a history of big government attitudes and pandering, are leading the pack.

Meanwhile, the candidate with the best economic plan (Gingrich)…

mankai on January 6, 2012 at 9:38 AM

This reality cannot be disputed (although Gingrich having ther best economic plan is irrelevant to your argument as he also has big governement tendencies).

noeastern on January 6, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Perry’s got a problem – he’s become Palinized. For a few fluffs in a few stupid debates, he has now been labelled irredeemably stupid. He should blow all his cash in SC and just go for it.

Sanitarium hasn’t got a hope of winning in the general. The last time we elected a Catholic it took mob-orchestrated voting fraud on a level that would put Zimbabwe to shame.

It’ll be NewtRomney – or I’ll buy BB another hat for him to eat.

CorporatePiggy on January 6, 2012 at 10:04 AM

The best argument that Santorum is not qualified is that he’s not a sneaky ruthless s.o.b. with a warm smile that he can turn on and off like a light switch (e.g. Bill Clinton.) Maybe that’s required these days. Well, Mitt can do that.

RBMN on January 6, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Call me crazy, but it can happen!

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 10:01 AM

If you insist… You’re crazy.

CaliforniaRefugee on January 6, 2012 at 10:04 AM

He has the time to strengthen himself in SC. There’s plenty of time left. He’s got two weeks. If he can make a good showing in SC, he gives himself the reason to continue on to FL. Stranger things have happened. People have come back from similar situations. Perry should in no way leave this race so long as he has money to spend, and some people supporting him.

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 9:53 AM

But how can he strengthen his numbers? This is not like Santorum in Iowa. He was operating under the radar and was able to surge in the polls thanks to the rest of the Not Romney candidates tanking coupled with a string of solid debate performances.

Perry on the other hand had his shot at being the Not Romney guy. But he promptly blew it at the debates. He’s already made his first impression on the voters and it was ugly. There’s no way to undo that. Unless Newt and Santorum vanish off the face of the earth tomorrow, there’s no opening for a Perry comeback.

Doughboy on January 6, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Is the Tea Party still around? caverduc on January 6, 2012 at 9:38 AM

If by Tea Party you mean the seething minority, yes, we’re still around – and will never vote for Romney, NEVER.

noeastern on January 6, 2012 at 10:06 AM

The MSM is going to try to destroy Santorum for his remarks on deh moslems. Watch and see.

Key West Reader on January 6, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Call me crazy, but it can happen!

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 10:01 AM
If you insist… You’re crazy.

CaliforniaRefugee on January 6, 2012 at 10:04 AM

LOL

I love Hot Air.

Key West Reader on January 6, 2012 at 10:08 AM

After the next debates, Newt will remind everyone why he should be the one to go against Hitler.

Shain1611 on January 6, 2012 at 10:08 AM

they will probably just ignore them because his refusal to disavow the individual mandate in RomneyCare is one of the biggest reasons 75% of the GOP don’t want him.

txmomof6 on January 6, 2012 at 10:01 AM

That. And

– $550M of new taxes/fees in year 1 as governor
– 15% increase in spending year 1 as governor
– several anti-gun bills signed as governor
– Cap N Trade bill signed as governor
– 80% of court appointments went to far left liberals
– daily flip flop on every conceivable issue

But aside from all that he’s a great conservative Republican candidate who will make a fine president. How do I know? My betters in the RNC keep telling me so.

angryed on January 6, 2012 at 10:09 AM

It’ll be NewtRomney – or I’ll buy BB another hat for him to eat.

CorporatePiggy on January 6, 2012 at 10:04 AM

bb didn’t eat a hat, Jetboy did.

Cindy Munford on January 6, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Key West Reader on January 6, 2012 at 10:06 AM

He’ll be destroyed on every basis possible, including breathing.

Cindy Munford on January 6, 2012 at 10:10 AM

That’s why we need to ditch this system and have all the states vote on the same day. Or, at the very least, a rotating system for early states.

A go-for-broke one day primary would keep talented but poorly financed candidates from the race. All you’d have is a few well financed candidates.

DumboTheAvenger on January 6, 2012 at 10:11 AM

I love Perry but it a momentum game right now and he’s got none.
If Mitt wins SC, it’s all over- especially with this sad sack of a field.
Well, you go to war with the Army you have, not the one you want -sigh.

jjshaka on January 6, 2012 at 10:11 AM

bb didn’t eat a hat, Jetboy did.

Cindy Munford on January 6, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Oops.

CorporatePiggy on January 6, 2012 at 10:12 AM

If by Tea Party you mean the seething minority, yes, we’re still around – and will never vote for Romney, NEVER.

noeastern on January 6, 2012 at 10:06 AM

And the Tea Party marginalization continues…

CaliforniaRefugee on January 6, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Is the Tea Party still around? caverduc on January 6, 2012 at 9:38 AM

If by Tea Party you mean the seething minority, yes, we’re still around – and will never vote for Romney, NEVER.

noeastern on January 6, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Romney is Obama lite,, but worst, he will do things undercover like Bush. At least Obama does it in plian sight and in your face.

Shain1611 on January 6, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Doughboy on January 6, 2012 at 10:05 AM

I don’t know, perhaps I’m being optimistic, but I think that it isn’t over in SC. I don’t think people have made their minds up yet, and are open to intense persuasion.

Romney is currently in SC. He’s giving Santorum and Huntsman openings in NH. It will weaken his showing in NH. Gingrich will fall in NH. He’s done. Santorum won’t do as well as people are expecting in NH.

Huntsman is unpalatable to people in SC. He shouldn’t even bother.

Since Romney will have a showing that won’t be as strong as expected, it will affect his performance in SC.

Perry can do this. He needs to make the right moves, and he can do it if he wants to. It isn’t over!

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 10:13 AM

If you insist… You’re crazy.

CaliforniaRefugee on January 6, 2012 at 10:04 AM

If you know anything about political primary history, crazy things have happened.

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Gingrich let his ego write checks his support base couldn’t cash, if Santorum remains humble he has a better chance of taking off.

Cindy Munford on January 6, 2012 at 9:51 AM

I met Santorum at my precinct caucus on Iowa’s big night. He brought two of his sons with him. Well said about staying humble. There’s a humility about the guy that is tangible. If he keeps that, I think you’re right.

beatcanvas on January 6, 2012 at 10:14 AM

If by Tea Party you mean the seething minority, yes, we’re still around – and will never vote for Romney, NEVER.

noeastern on January 6, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Is Santorum’s opinion of the Tea Party is a deal breaker for you?

DumboTheAvenger on January 6, 2012 at 10:15 AM

GET YOUR HATS READY, IM HUNGRY.

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Call me crazy, but it can happen!

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 10:01 AM
If you insist… You’re crazy.

CaliforniaRefugee on January 6, 2012 at 10:04 AM

LOL

I love Hot Air.

Key West Reader on January 6, 2012 at 10:08 AM

After the next debates, Newt will remind everyone why he should be the one to go against Hitler.

Shain1611 on January 6, 2012 at 10:08 AM

KWR – this is so true, it is the laughs that keep me coming back, despite the flame wars which make it tiresome!

txmomof6 on January 6, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Santorum will fall. As will Gingrich. Total opening for Perry.

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Agree. Perry didn’t pander on the ethanol in Iowa…He’ll have more time to campaign in SC & he’ll campaign on the Texas Economic Record and Big Labor Corruption/Anti-DC issues.

“During that same congressional session, Santorum also voted to retain the 1930s-era Davis-Bacon Act that forces taxpayers to pay union wages in government-funded construction and gives Big Labor an unfair advantage over non-union companies and workers (“On the Motion to Table (motion to table Kennedy Amendment No. 4031 to S.Amdt. 4000 to S.Con.Res. 57),” Senate Bill Clerk, Vote Number: 134, http://www.senate.gov, 5/22/1996)”
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/04/this-wont-play-well-in-south-carolina/

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1876&dat=19950205&id=w7YeAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Zc8EAAAAIBAJ&pg=5625,24958

workingclass artist on January 6, 2012 at 10:17 AM

I don’t know, perhaps I’m being optimistic, but I think that it isn’t over in SC. I don’t think people have made their minds up yet, and are open to intense persuasion.

Perry can do this. He needs to make the right moves, and he can do it if he wants to. It isn’t over!

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 10:13 AM

I agree with you on the first point. Most people haven’t made up their minds yet on who to vote for. But IMO they HAVE decided they don’t want Perry. Those horrible favorability ratings are the biggest indicator. They gave him a look, and he scared them off.

Doughboy on January 6, 2012 at 10:18 AM

If you know anything about political primary history, crazy things have happened.

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 10:14 AM

If he was unknown, sure. But he is now known and unwanted. He had his crack at not-Romney and blew it.

CaliforniaRefugee on January 6, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Doughboy on January 6, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Git that hat ready for me!

I love thinking about this topic. It’s fun

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Since Romney will have a showing that won’t be as strong as expected, it will affect his performance in SC.

Perry can do this. He needs to make the right moves, and he can do it if he wants to. It isn’t over!

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 10:13 AM

No it’s not over…Perry will be all over SC after this weekend’s two debates.

workingclass artist on January 6, 2012 at 10:19 AM

I agree with Shain1611
Newt was bottom tier until the debates brought him to the top. The debates stopped and the media smears brought him back down. Let the debates resume.

inotes on January 6, 2012 at 10:19 AM

CorporatePiggy on January 6, 2012 at 10:12 AM

LOL! Just don’t encourage him to endorse your guy, whoever that might be.

Cindy Munford on January 6, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Doughboy on January 6, 2012 at 10:18 AM

polls are fickle…

Romney wants to force Perry out before the April Texas primary. Texas has 155 delegates.

workingclass artist on January 6, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Perry can do this. He needs to make the right moves, and he can do it if he wants to. It isn’t over!

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 10:13 AM

When do you start your shift at the Psychic Friends Network?

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on January 6, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Maybe the Romney team was too cute by half in getting the primary so close to Iowa.
txmomof6 on January 6, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Are you a Paulnut? Please provide hard evidence, not just conspiracy theories. Thanks in advance…

Perry’s got a history of running incredibly tough ads in Texas when circumstances call for it, so don’t be surprised to see a material tonal shift in how Team Perry approaches the next phase of the campaign.
Robert_Paulson on January 6, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Some friendly advice: His silly, We need a part-time Congress who have real jobs like the rest of us! shtick is not going to cut it in the “tough” department.

I suppose I forgot to add some caveats since in posting quick from my phone:
blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Gotta hand it to you – I’ve been experimenting with posting from my Kindle Fire and tedious doesn’t begin to describe it.

Polls just encourage the trolls.
I wish they had 3 or 4 states that were more populated and diverse, having the first primaries.
Iowa has way too much influence…way too much.
JugEars came out of there.
KOOLAID2 on January 6, 2012 at 9:37 AM

I’d like to change the system too (for one thing I’m not fond of caucuses), but in fairness, S.C. is pretty darn “diverse”.

You Mittbots can brag all you want… but winning votes does not amount to accomplishing anything (see: Obama). You’re the same squishes I’ve been fighting in the party since 1988. You’re the people who cheered Bob Dole’s victory over the “extremists” in the party in 1996 and the people who empowered the Bush/Rove “Compassionate Conservatism” debacle.You’re tax collectors for the welfare state.
mankai on January 6, 2012 at 9:38 AM

Damn, you sure know a lot about me! How’d you find out about the tax collecting? I take a cut of what I collect, and live like a Queen! Woo hoo!/

FTR, I voted for Reagan, loathe the welfare state, I thought Dole was a terrible candidate (and George Bush won twice so I wouldn’t be too dismissive of what he and Rove did. Remember – the power of Fox News, the internets and so forth was in its infancy, especially in 2000. To win required beating the libs at their own game.)

P.S. Obama has accomplished a lot, unfortunately.

Buy Danish on January 6, 2012 at 10:21 AM

It’s really amazing how momentum just seems to take over. Gingrich is pretty much toast.

eyedoc on January 6, 2012 at 10:21 AM

workingclass artist on January 6, 2012 at 10:17 AM

Did I mention that Santorum is from PA?

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Key West Reader on January 6, 2012 at 10:21 AM

I wonder if it will hold up for Santorum. He hasn’t begun to get the media scrutiny the frontrunners get.

CoffeeLover on January 6, 2012 at 9:32 AM

So far the State Media has botched their attacks on him. I think if they continue in this regard they will elevate his standing.

Romney has to be very careful now too. Some of his supporters are echoing the hard left in their attacks on Santorum, and if his campaign is tied to that it gives Santorum a real path to the nomination.

Overall though, I think after SC, Santorum, Perry, and Newt need to have a talk and all get together behind one of them.

Right now the most important thing for this country is to deny Romney the nomination – even if he miraculously wins, we all still lose.

18-1 on January 6, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Guys, guys, guys (and gals), are we seriously about to nominate Rick Santorum? It’s one thing to nominate someone like Rick Perry, who has a basically libertarian attitude of “Washington should stay out people’s business – that’s what the 10th Amendment is all about.” It’s quite another to nominate someone who will dictate from the right about social issues that the country no longer supports. You’re not winning Pennsylvania with him. You’re not winning Michigan with him. You’re probably not winning Virginia with him. You may lose New Hampshire and Iowa. Yuo’re also going to lose Florida. Come to think of it, if Santorum is the nominee, the result will be another 2008.

Do. Not. Do. This.

JoeShmoe99 on January 6, 2012 at 10:25 AM

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on January 6, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Your morning shot of devils springs is calling

blatantblue on January 6, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Is the Tea Party still around? If so, is Santorum really the guy they have selected?

http://youtu.be/vLQnoVpkyqc

Where is Demint? Where is Palin?

caverduc on January 6, 2012 at 9:38 AM

Great question. I thought the Tea Party was supposed to be informed and paying attention to things. How can it be that they’ve allowed the choice to come down to Mitt and “Last Man Standing” Santorum? Both will be destroyed in the general.

bsclark12 on January 6, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Aaaand the Vetting continues…

“On February 14, 2002, Democratic Senators Joe Biden, John Edwards, Diane Feinstein, Ron Wyden, Robert Torricelli, and Chris Dodd amongs joined with every single Republican in the Senate including Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, Lincoln Chaffee, and the rest to kill a measure that would have given felons, including rapists, drug traffickers, and arsonists, the right to vote.

The measure failed 63 to 31.

But while Joe Biden and Dianne Feinstein were siding with the Republicans in the United States Senate, there were actually three Republicans joining 28 Democrats to support giving these felons the right to vote. One was Senator DeWine of Ohio who the voters would thereafter throw out of office.

The other two Republicans were Senators Rick Santorum and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania.

Amendment 2879, sponsored by Senators Harry Reid, Russ Feingold, and Arlen Specter — the very amendment Santorum voted for — established a Commission on Voting Rights and Procedures to “to require States to meet uniform and nondiscriminatory election technology and administration requirements for the 2004 Federal elections” and provides felons the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General of the United States if they are denied the right to vote. (Note Senator Reid calls these people “ex-felons” instead of “felons”)

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00031

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/05/another-awkward-rick-santorum-vote/

workingclass artist on January 6, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Romney has to be very careful now too. Some of his supporters are echoing the hard left in their attacks on Santorum, and if his campaign is tied to that it gives Santorum a real path to the nomination.
18-1 on January 6, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Who, where and what are you talking about?

Buy Danish on January 6, 2012 at 10:28 AM

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