Navy SEAL: Why yes, I did punch Jesse Ventura in the face for saying we deserved to lose some guys in Iraq at a wake for an MOH recipient

posted at 4:32 pm on January 5, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via Breitbart TV, three minutes from Opie & Anthony with the deadliest sniper in American history. So awful is this accusation that I paused after watching it to consider that maybe it isn’t true. I mean, is this something that a belligerent Truther would be likely to say to a bunch of a servicemen while they’re mourning a fallen comrade? And then I thought: Yeah, this is exactly what he’d say. So there you go.

By the way, was Jesse Ventura actually once governor of Minnesota? This Jesse Ventura? Did I hallucinate that? Content warning.


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Turning this guy into a celebrity is a mistake. And he is an idiot for putting his name/face out there.

Have fun looking over your shoulder for the rest of your days. You might want to inquire about the Witness Relocation Program.

Moesart on February 12, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Turning this guy into a celebrity is a mistake. And he is an idiot for putting his name/face out there.

Moesart on February 12, 2013 at 2:02 PM

His face and name aren’t out there. No photos and no name.

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2013 at 2:14 PM

His face and name aren’t out there. No photos and no name.

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Only a temporary condition. The author of the article and some of his comrades in “journalism” know the name. It’s only a matter of time.

And I’d bet even odds al Qaeda already knows it. And probably some foreign governments.

farsighted on February 12, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Turning this guy into a celebrity is a mistake. And he is an idiot for putting his name/face out there.

Moesart on February 12, 2013 at 2:02 PM

His face and name aren’t out there. No photos and no name.

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2013 at 2:14 PM

But it did indeed turn him into a celebrity, as Moesart correctly noted. And if you read the whole article, you would no doubt also concede that there are a few “personal identifiers” about the Shooter described therein.

The story also turned the author, Phil Bronstein, into a considerable publicity seeker, and as he now quite publicly pursues his apparently new-found mission of seeking additional financial and physical security for the Shooter and his family, and other warriors similarly situated, he may have unwittingly opened the door to exposing the Shooter, and himself to considerable additional risk.

Before anyone gets the wrong idea, I’d not be opposed in any way to a truly generous accommodation for the Shooter, or those similarly situated . . . but turning this into a public cause is, I think, a mistake.

We have been, and will continue to be dealing for the foreseeable future with a fringe of people adhering to an ideology which encourages and practices endless personal warfare and revenge-seeking, that goes by the name of “jihad.”

To some extent the notion of “blood lust” and endless revenge has been thankfully missing from the American lexicon for most of our history, though it was ever-present in the storied past, even of many of our European roots. The notion that “the South will rise again” simply never materialized because one of the secrets of American success — even following great conflicts that divided us — was that we always found a way to move on. But for the jihadists amongst us, no more!

The downside of that absence has been that many Americans simply have no idea what it can mean for the future.

When you get around to reading the entire story, dentarthurdent, please note the final few lines penned by Mr. Bronstein.

. . .
The supper table is suddenly flooded with the surge of strong emotions. Anguish, really, though they both hide it well. This is not a movie. It’s real life, where death is final and threats last forever.

The blood is your own, not fake splatter and explosive squibs.

Movies, books, lore — we all helped make these men brilliant assassins in the name of liberty, lifted them up on our shoulders as unique and exquisitely trained heroes, then left them alone in the shadows of their past.

Uncertainty will never be far away for the Shooter. His government may have shut the door on him, but he is required to live inside the consequences of his former career.

One line from the film kept resonating in my head.

An actor playing a CIA station chief warns Maya about jihadi vengeance.

“Once you’re on their list,” he says, “you never get off.”

(My emphasis)

What Bronstein may not recognize is the potential that he represents as someone who has had up-close and personal contact.

Finally, I also have some lingering doubts about the curious timing of the publication of this article, given the fact that — in addition to retelling the Abbottabad raid story — the author was also critical of the U.S. government response to those who so clearly put themselves on the line. The piece made it quite clear that the interviews were conducted back in May, in the spring of 2012, up to September. Why was publication held until now?

Trochilus on February 12, 2013 at 3:49 PM

AQ should just come and take him away for being so damn stupid. He’s no SEAL, and if he was I’m sure he was forced out because he was a detriment to the team.

stacman on February 12, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Trochilus on February 12, 2013 at 3:49 PM

I’ve read the article, and none of what you posted changes my primary point / opinion – which is that this whole story is a fake.
I believe this radical left-wing writer (look up his background) either made it all up, or he was a sucker for a stolen valor type fraudster. I believe we will find out the truth fairly soon.

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2013 at 5:35 PM

. . .
I believe this radical left-wing writer (look up his background) either made it all up, or he was a sucker for a stolen valor type fraudster. I believe we will find out the truth fairly soon.
dentarthurdent on February 12, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Well, thanks for offering us nothing in the way of a basis for your opinion — other than saying you believe you are right.

To quote a wag from some years ago, “Some people believe they’ve seen a chicken with lips.”

Trochilus on February 12, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Well, thanks for offering us nothing in the way of a basis for your opinion — other than saying you believe you are right.

To quote a wag from some years ago, “Some people believe they’ve seen a chicken with lips.”

Trochilus on February 12, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Go read the 20 or 30 other posts I’ve put on this thread and the other related thread. I’ve been at this since yesterday morning – and you’re jumping in at the end saying I have no basis for my opinion? Really?

dentarthurdent on February 12, 2013 at 6:46 PM

I’ve done 15 years… I want to get out and get my retirement too… B.S. You do 20, you get your retirement. That’s how it works. As for disability, sounds like he didn’t file the right paperwork. Sounds like he “pencil-whipped” his mandatory ACAP (or navy quivalent) briefings… which would have told him all that he is eligible (or NOT eligible for).

But he was a SEAL… he doesn’t have time for such briefings…. Oops!

BadBrad on February 13, 2013 at 11:34 PM

Heck, I bet he’ll be lucky to get an ObamaPhone. Unreal.

johnnyU on February 14, 2013 at 5:00 AM

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