Perry: I’m looking forward to a primary of real Republicans in South Carolina

posted at 8:20 pm on January 4, 2012 by Allahpundit

Explain a few things to me. One: Why did he announce publicly last night that he was “reassessing” if he truly hadn’t decided to quit yet? If you want to push the talking point that Iowa doesn’t mean anything and that the real race begins in South Carolina, then push it. Don’t show everyone that the caucuses have left you so badly shaken that you’re thinking of getting out. And if that was simply a ploy to give him an excuse to skip campaigning in New Hampshire, where he has no shot, then why immediately turn around this morning and announce that you’re back in? (“I was out on the trail when it kind of came to me.”) Lie low for a few days as the New Hampshire scrum gets going and then announce that you’re back in and headed for Carolina. Even some of his advisors are confused about the reversal: “It seemed like everything was going to wind down and life was gonna be good, and now there’s an explosion and I don’t know what’s going on.”

Two: He says in the clip that he’s looking forward to a primary with real Republicans, not the Democratic infiltrators for which Iowa is known. But … South Carolina’s an open primary. If you want to make mischief for a conservative, it’s probably easier to do it there than in Iowa. And even if Iowa’s teeming with independents and liberals, how did that hurt Perry last night? Ron Paul was the big beneficiary of the non-Republican vote and surely will be again in South Carolina. Perry’s problem isn’t squishes lining up to torpedo him, it’s conservatives who have given up on him after one too many goofs. What he’s really saying here, I take it, is that he’s looking forward to a primary of southerners, which is fair enough — but then so is the guy who beat him out for fourth place last night.

Three: How does he win South Carolina? The Times has a theory:

While the campaign spent millions of dollars in Iowa, Mr. Perry may still have enough money to compete effectively in South Carolina, where television is less expensive than in New Hampshire and Florida, and his super PAC will likely provide additional firepower. While Mr. Perry will probably need to reboot his fund-raising to raise enough money to compete strongly in Florida’s primary on Jan. 31, his supporters believe the results in Iowa, however inauspicious for Mr. Perry, showed a hunger among Republicans for a more conservative alternative to Mr. Romney.

“Think how early we are in the process,” said a person with knowledge of the campaign, who asked for anonymity in order to discuss deliberations among Mr. Perry’s aides. “The reality is, not one delegate was committed yesterday. We are still early enough in the process that if the candidate has the drive to go forward, he ought to.”

“If we can get this back to a Perry versus Romney field,” the person said, “Perry can win.”

If he does well there, he’ll burst Santorum’s bubble, finish off Gingrich, and lay to rest whatever remains of Huntsman’s campaign after his likely defeat in New Hampshire. But that all depends on how well Santorum does in NH, of course. If Santorum gets a major bounce from Iowa and finishes a respectable second to Mitt up north, he’ll arrive in South Carolina as the presumptive social-con Not Romney, which makes things very hard for Perry. Perry fans, in fact, are now in the strange position of needing a Romney landslide next Tuesday to prove that Santorum’s a paper tiger whom South Carolinians shouldn’t bother taking a chance on.

And even if that Romney landslide happens, that’s dangerous too. The big rap on Mitt is that he has a low ceiling because most of the party hates him, but once there’s solid proof to the contrary of that in some state, it might shake loose undecideds elsewhere. Plus, Romney will have Nikki Haley campaigning for him in South Carolina, so if he shows up with lots of momentum, lots of endorsements, and a four-way split among the Not Romney vote, I wonder if he ends up winning there and suddenly looks so inevitable that no one can catch him even in a two-way race. That is to say, the assumption all along has been that anyone in the field (except Ron Paul) has a good shot of taking Romney out head to head. But maybe not. Maybe, if Romney runs the table early, the media buzz about inevitability and electability becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy in which even undecideds who prefer Perry or Santorum ideologically choose to opt for the guy with all the money and organization who can beat O. And on top of all that, for Perry to come back in South Carolina would be unprecedented: Since 1980, everyone who won there had also won in either Iowa or New Hampshire. Perry finished a distant fifth in the former and will do similarly in the latter. Are those long odds good enough to justify continuing, knowing that his participation will deepen the split in the conservative vote and inadvertently help Romney?

Next debate is Saturday night, by the way. Yesterday that looked like it was going to be an “everyone against Romney” affair, but with Perry back in and eager to take Santorum down, Mitt now has himself an unlikely ally.

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Get on with making Romney cry in his beer.

they lie on January 4, 2012 at 8:26 PM

I’m Texan and not necessarily a Perry supporter, but I see SC as a big win for him. Maybe not 1st place, but a strong second.

The fact that he is a Southerner will play a big role in SC.

smorrow66 on January 4, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Perry needs Jon Huntsman to do well in New Hampshire.

Dr Evil on January 4, 2012 at 8:27 PM

I don’t know….my head is just swimming with all the over-analysis of the last few weeks.

VBMax on January 4, 2012 at 8:27 PM

One: Why did he announce publicly last night that he was “reassessing” if he truly hadn’t decided to quit yet?

Just speculating on this, but last night after Perrys speech, there were reports that Santorum immediately got on the phone and called Perry. My guess is, he was seeking and endorsement. When I read that Santorum was calling Perry I was thinking that it was too soon. I think it probably rubbed Perry the wrong way. Plus I think his donors would have been mad had he not at least given South Carolina a shot. He has three million dollars of others peoples money, Im guessing they want him to spend it and at least make this last stand in South Carolina. Stranger things have happened then Rick Perry winning South Carolina, its entirely possible given the fluidity of the race. So I think after a little bit of sleep and the other factors he realized he has nothing to lose staying in.

nswider on January 4, 2012 at 8:27 PM

And Nikki Haley is not the tea party darling she once was.

they lie on January 4, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Scorched Earth 2012 sounds fine to me. I’m all for the GOP undergoing some much needed creative destruction.

Punchenko on January 4, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Santorum just got a taste of what’s in store for him in the media with Bill O’Reilly. Who is trying very hard not do away with the formality of the primary and coronate Mitt Romney.

Dr Evil on January 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM

His PAC has been running a few very nice ads for months here in South Carolina.

SouthernGent on January 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Anita ripped him a new one after the speech. “We don’t tolerate quitters in this household.”

andy85719 on January 4, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Who has the better Iowa insults, Perry or Huntsman?
It is a swing state, guys. You’d need it to beat Obama. If you were to get the nomination. But you won’t.
Good thing Mitt’s too smart to insult voters like that.

itsnotaboutme on January 4, 2012 at 8:30 PM

:Its entirely possible the campaign made an honest calculation after ‘sleeping on it’”. The conservatives know Romney is not going to win the Presidential elections. There is no way a Wall Street Banker and CEO of Bain Capital a company that sells and buys company and in the process many loses their jobs is going to win the Presidential elections in this environment where the majority of voters despise Wall Street. Obama is going to run the most vicious class warfare re-election campaign in history of American politics and he could not dream of a better opponent than Romney a very rich Wall Street Banker. Romney and his supporters are totally delusional to ignore this most obvious and most important fact, you CANNOT WIN
Mitt Romney has not received the MSM slime assault because the Obama White House wants very badly to run against him. Why? Because he, alone among all the Republican candidates, personifies the figure that Obama is planning to demonize in order to win re-election: he’s a 1%er, born into privilege, a Wall Street fat cat, with a history of racism. The 1% position is obvious; the racism will come from recitations of Mormon history. The entire Republican establishment will be tainted by the history of the Mormon church.
As with McCain, the slime assault against Romney will begin the day after he wins the nomination. They know a good thing when they see it, and will not disturb the process of nominating Romney — because they want Obama to win. Far from being the BEST candidate to beat Obama, he is very nearly the worst; only Ron Paul would be easier for the Democrats to defeat in November.

nancysabet on January 4, 2012 at 8:30 PM

More goofs, gaffes and sour grapes. Implosion continues.

Philly on January 4, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Here is hoping for a Romney smackdown saturday. Santorum is most likely going to burst next week and Gingrich will kamikaze Mitt. Perry just needs to seal the deal in debates and orgs. Palin should also endorse someone after telling bachmom to endorse.

Flapjackmaka on January 4, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Santorum will be shredded on his way to South Carolina. The Santorum people might freak out and flock back to Perry, especially if he has good debate performances.

andy85719 on January 4, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Here we go!!.. Go Team Perry..:)

Dire Straits on January 4, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Dr Evil on January 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Yeah I was watching that too. He went after Santorum and wouldnt even let the guy speak really. I agree with the Romney support too, its not said but its implied a great deal lately on his show.

nswider on January 4, 2012 at 8:32 PM

then why immediately turn around this morning and announce that you’re back in?

To drive you crazy AP and to keep that paycheck rolling in.

JPeterman on January 4, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Anita ripped him a new one after the speech. “We don’t tolerate quitters in this household.”

andy85719 on January 4, 2012 at 8:30 PM

I know how that conversation went, Anita Perry: James Richard Perry are you an Ameri- Can or are you an Ameri- Can’t LOL!

Dr Evil on January 4, 2012 at 8:33 PM

He didn’t insult Iowans. He insulted the fact that Iowa lets Democrat infiltrators vote.

andy85719 on January 4, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Anita ripped him a new one after the speech. “We don’t tolerate quitters in this household.”

andy85719 on January 4, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Anita’s great, great, great, great, great grandfather was General George Armstrong Custer’s executive officer in charge of the Little Big Horn battle plan.

bw222 on January 4, 2012 at 8:34 PM

O’Reilly basically preaches the book of Romney. I’m leaning Romney, but it really creeps me out how much of a shill he is.

andy85719 on January 4, 2012 at 8:36 PM

I hope Perry takes Santorum down a couple notches before dropping out. That’s my wish, at least. :-)

Punchenko on January 4, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Dr Evil on January 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Yeah I was watching that too. He went after Santorum and wouldnt even let the guy speak really. I agree with the Romney support too, its not said but its implied a great deal lately on his show.

nswider on January 4, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Allah or Tina should get a hold of the video of the talking points Mr No Spin Zone was spinning like a top for Romney tonight, and it kept going on into his interview with Santorum. By the time he had on Karl Rove it was like Rove was trying to talk him down from the ledge GRIN. It’s pretty bad when it takes Karl Rove to talk you back down to earth from a Romney high. That 25% last night in the Iowa caucus really impressed Bill. The same 25% Romney’s consistently polling so I can see where the excitement is coming from LOL!

Dr Evil on January 4, 2012 at 8:37 PM

I hope Perry takes Santorum down a couple notches before dropping out. That’s my wish, at least. :-)

Punchenko on January 4, 2012 at 8:37 PM

My wish is either Perry or Gingrich take out Romney. I can live with President Huntsman it’s do able ;)

Dr Evil on January 4, 2012 at 8:39 PM

The RightMan, look for Perry to begin surging.

HerneTheHunter on January 4, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Dr Evil on January 4, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Yeah I mean Im a big Romney supporter, but I dont like when hosts do stuff like that. I mean if your going to have a guest on, let them speak. Also if you like a candidate, have decided your going to vote for that candidate which I think O’Reilly has, disclose it. Dont hide it. I think Hannity has done the best job this cycle of anyone of being fair to all of the candidates. I have no idea who hes for, which is a nice thing, makes the analysis more compelling.

nswider on January 4, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Perry was my first choice. I’ve moved to Romney, even though his supporters must always be on the lookout for incoming. Wish Perry had been a better candidate.
And..look at that photo of him. That is one good lookin’ man.

bluealice on January 4, 2012 at 8:41 PM

I don’t think you can make these comparisons to previous campaigns. The incessant debates and the proportionality really changes things up. There are two debates in the next week…before New Hampshire?? The debates were meant to help Romney, but the proportional delegates makes it difficult to wrap it up. It’s going to go on for awhile.

I think this was a head fake by Perry to get Bachmann out of the race. He announced right after her Ames victory and took the wind out of her sail. She’s been a complete overrated nuisance since.

Conservatives need to get behind Governor Perry and not fall for these Fox News commentators. Let’s see a Perry/Romney showdown. Who ever emerges will be a stronger general election candidate.

monalisa on January 4, 2012 at 8:42 PM

If Iowa and trends tell us anything it’s that there’s nothing to suggest so far that Romney will do any better in NH next week than he did in 2008…31.5% (2008) and 2nd place to McCain. Currently averages have Romney at 40% but look for that you drop towards closer to 31.5%. And McCain’s (2008 NH primary winner) endorsement may actually hurt Romney even more–bringing his NH polling numbers to high 27-29% range, leaving lots of other votes on the table.

Deep Timber on January 4, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Kamikaze mission. Dobson and Bauer convinced him to burn his remaining (and considerable) war-chest up carpet-bombing Romney.

The so-cons mostly come at night. Mostly.

MTLassen on January 4, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Perry: I’m looking forward to a primary of real Republicans in South Carolina

Apparently Rick doesn’t yet realize that the South Carolina primary is an open primary.

steebo77 on January 4, 2012 at 8:45 PM

The three best presidents according to Perry are Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson and… and… that one with the, uh, you know, the thing and that other stuff… er… ?

Ooops.

profitsbeard on January 4, 2012 at 8:46 PM

At least Michele Bachmann knew when to get out of the race…

… Eh, who cares? This whole thing is turning into a circus. Palin? Why she should jump in, too!

MeatHeadinCA on January 4, 2012 at 8:46 PM

The fact is that Perry was not popular.

astonerii on January 4, 2012 at 8:47 PM

The RightMan, look for Perry to begin surging.

HerneTheHunter on January 4, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Perry will need 2 flawless NH debates to gain traction. He’s already made a first impression with America and it takes months/years to have successful makeover. Best he can hope for is a great month of January without any serious gaffes or blank stares in upcoming debates–if he can do that he MIGHT be able to remold his candidacy in late February/March–still keeping him as potential VP pick.

Deep Timber on January 4, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Yeah I mean Im a big Romney supporter, but I dont like when hosts do stuff like that. I mean if your going to have a guest on, let them speak. Also if you like a candidate, have decided your going to vote for that candidate which I think O’Reilly has, disclose it. Dont hide it. I think Hannity has done the best job this cycle of anyone of being fair to all of the candidates. I have no idea who hes for, which is a nice thing, makes the analysis more compelling.

nswider on January 4, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Bill’s got no business taking shots at MSNBC when he’s basically doing the same thing. Is he aware he’s doing it, I don’t see how he could not know he’s doing it, and it’s more than a little hypocritical.

I wonder though if this is something that’s been passed on down from corporate head quarters like Roger Ailes has put out the word our guy is Romney so give Romney a pass or promote his candidacy? I have watched similar displays on Stuart Varney’s show on FBN before the Iowa caucus even took place, they declared Romney the presumptive nominee, and everything else was just a formality. How could they know that in advance before people even vote? Because they knew no matter what how they would spin it. I have been watching a lot of CNN lately, because at least in the case of republicans they are more objective about the field.

Dr Evil on January 4, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Perry has said he isn`t a good debater. Then how did he win reelection so many times? Is it that his opponent was jsut awful and his record is good? Put his record as Gov. against Obama as president, it might not matter if he isn`t a smooth talker.

ThePrez on January 4, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Look at the photo of Perry next to the one of Obama on the front page. Maybe we should have an American Idol election. I’d put Perry, Romney (and his sons) Santorum, even Huntsman against the angry man..It’d be a landslide.
(just a little//)

bluealice on January 4, 2012 at 8:49 PM

I predict a Lincoln-Douglas style debate coming up between Santorum and Gingrich…in SC.

Deep Timber on January 4, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Good thing Mitt’s too smart to insult voters like that.

itsnotaboutme on January 4, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Yeah right. Of course he did. Mitt never said anything at all nice about the tea party, but lined himself right up to want to be president of the 99% crowd.

He’s not so bright as he’s made out to be.

beatcanvas on January 4, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Palin? Why she should jump in, too!

MeatHeadinCA on January 4, 2012 at 8:46 PM

I’m still waiting for a count on all of those who voted rogue in Iowa last night. Did anyone feel the earthquake?

JPeterman on January 4, 2012 at 8:51 PM

It’s gonna get real nasty in SC. George Bush v. John McCain was real dirty in 2000. Lets face it…Perry has to take on Santorum, and he had plenty of ammo.

rubberneck on January 4, 2012 at 8:51 PM

He is undefeated so far. God and Sarah Palin bless him.
We need him.
Romney, nope.
Newt, yes.
The rest, nope.

carbon_footprint on January 4, 2012 at 8:52 PM

First, the headfake got Bachmann to drop out. Makes sense to me.

Second, Allah, are you serious? Santorum?! might do well in NH? Hahaha! Suuuuuure he will ;)

Santorum is the only candidate who hasn’t been vetted yet. He will be. And he will found SEVERLY lacking.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on January 4, 2012 at 8:52 PM

A split vote benefits Romney. Paul voters won’t jump ship, so his numbers will remain stable.

Philly on January 4, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Dr Evil on January 4, 2012 at 8:49 PM

No, I dont think so, I think its their own opinions especially since Rupurt Murdoch tweeted (and the guy never tweets) that people ought to consider Santorum. I think thats who Murdoch likes right now who matters a great deal more then Ailes. But I think Ailes gives the hosts alot of leeway. I mean Shep Smith says pro democrat stuff all the time on air. He said today “what will people do when they find out that Santorum compared gay sex to bestiality.” I mean Smith is really anti Santorum, where the fox and friends crew seem to be anti Romney. Its just kind of all over the place at Fox I think. Dont think theres a consensus.

nswider on January 4, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Rick Skerry always hits the snooze button and sleeps until the last minute. But when he wakes up, look out.

carbon_footprint on January 4, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Perry has to take on Santorum, and he had plenty of ammo.

rubberneck on January 4, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Knowing Santorum, he has an 90% of crashing after NH. I dont think you cant count anyone out, even Perry. THis race has been a volatile one that gave a nobody an Iowa tie yesterday. Perry just better prep for those debates though.

Flapjackmaka on January 4, 2012 at 8:54 PM

It would appear that Perry gave Bachmann’s speech last night and she gave his.

Ronnie on January 4, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Rick Santorum wants to peek into your bedroom.

carbon_footprint on January 4, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Flapjackmaka on January 4, 2012 at 8:54 PM

More like a 99.9% chance of crashing ;)

Aslans Girl on January 4, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Perry Newt Santorum Huntsman… anyone but Romney please .

El_Terrible on January 4, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Why did he announce publicly last night that he was “reassessing” if he truly hadn’t decided to quit yet?

I’m not buying the spin that it was some Machiavellian ninja tech to get Bachmann to bow out. Perry’s just being Perry–dumb and prone to unforced errors.

ElectricPhase on January 4, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Perry was given a bum rap on immigration, and the 11 yr TX gov is no dummy. He had back pain when he had his senior moments. He was strong in his last 2 debates! He is the only one who has the unambiguous message of cutting an out of control bloated ballooning govt, AND restoring faith. People keep calling him a dummy, and it’s wrong. We have been aggrieved by Obama’s huge govt agenda: Rick Perry is the antidote. Bring it on. Let it happen..

“I am going to take a wrecking ball to the Washington establishment.” — Rick Perry

anotherJoe on January 4, 2012 at 8:56 PM

First, the headfake got Bachmann to drop out. Makes sense to me.

Second, Allah, are you serious? Santorum?! might do well in NH? Hahaha! Suuuuuure he will ;)

Santorum is the only candidate who hasn’t been vetted yet. He will be. And he will found SEVERLY lacking.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on January 4, 2012 at 8:52 PM

He doesn’t have to do better than 3rd of 4th in NH. Huckabee achieved that result in 08 and that gave him enough momentum to continue to SC.

Bluray on January 4, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Perry’s had really, really good debates in the past four or five of them (I’ve lost count) and hasn’t had a gaffe since 11/9/11 with the “oops” moment. I even believed him when he said he was starting to enjoy the debates, he’s been doing so much better, why shouldn’t he actually start liking them?

Aslans Girl on January 4, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Perry was my first choice. I’ve moved to Romney, even though his supporters must always be on the lookout for incoming. Wish Perry had been a better candidate.
And..look at that photo of him. That is one good lookin’ man.

bluealice on January 4, 2012 at 8:41 PM

This is how JFK won, I guess.

ZGMF_Freedom on January 4, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Rick Santorum wants to peek into your bedroom.

carbon_footprint on January 4, 2012 at 8:55 PM

You must be a liberal. You’re using their silly slogan.

itsnotaboutme on January 4, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Heres video FYI of O’Reilly grilling Santorum tonight:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-oreilly-grills-rick-santorum-on-social-issues-black-people-comment/

nswider on January 4, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Bluray on January 4, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Ah, but Huck was an Evangelical Southerner, not a Northern Catholic. Huck also was a successful, two-term GOVERNOR, not a mere senator who got beaten epically for re-election (Santorum lost by almost 20-freaking-%, it was historic).

Aslans Girl on January 4, 2012 at 8:59 PM

You must be a liberal. You’re using their silly slogan.

itsnotaboutme on January 4, 2012 at 8:57 PM

And you must be a clueless dumbass.

carbon_footprint on January 4, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Rick Santorum wants to peek into your bedroom.

carbon_footprint on January 4, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Go on… :-)

Punchenko on January 4, 2012 at 8:59 PM

I predict a Lincoln-Douglas style debate coming up between Santorum and Gingrich…in SC.

Deep Timber on January 4, 2012 at 8:50 PM

More like Bryan-Darrow (Scopes Trial) debate….I’ll leave it to others to determine who represents Clarence Darrow and who represents William Jennings Bryan, but the evangelicals in SC, a state where you can’t swing a cat without hitting a church, clearly represent Judge John T. Raulston. It’s still unclear what group is the Tenn Supreme Court….

MTLassen on January 4, 2012 at 9:00 PM

ElectricPhase on January 4, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Either way, it worked ;)

Aslans Girl on January 4, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Ah, but Huck was an Evangelical Southerner, not a Northern Catholic. Huck also was a successful, two-term GOVERNOR, not a mere senator who got beaten epically for re-election (Santorum lost by almost 20-freaking-%, it was historic).

Aslans Girl on January 4, 2012 at 8:59 PM

This is very true.

Punchenko on January 4, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Go on… :-)

Punchenko on January 4, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Only missionary, no reverse cowgirl.

carbon_footprint on January 4, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Good for Perry…!

… I can’t wait for the debate.

Seven Percent Solution on January 4, 2012 at 9:01 PM

No doggie style. No between the chair spindles. Come on people!

carbon_footprint on January 4, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Only missionary, no reverse cowgirl.

carbon_footprint on January 4, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Poor cowgirls. :-(

Speaking of cowgirls: Mitt and his new BFF are on Hannity right now!

Punchenko on January 4, 2012 at 9:02 PM

This is how JFK won, I guess.

ZGMF_Freedom on January 4, 2012 at 8:57 PM

But JFK was a good talker too..so I’m told. Not quite that old.

bluealice on January 4, 2012 at 9:02 PM

No StaR 69. No feltching. Gah!!!

carbon_footprint on January 4, 2012 at 9:03 PM

We need him.
Romney, nope.
Newt, yes.
The rest, nope.

carbon_footprint on January 4, 2012 at 8:52 PM

I agree. I like Newt but I do like Perry very much as a second choice.
I was considering Santorum briefly, but on second thought, no. I just don’t think Santorum has it in him yet. I will be curious to see how Newt does over these next few weeks- supposedly he is *fighting mad*…and Perry does seem to keep plugging along….

AZgranny on January 4, 2012 at 9:03 PM

I’m in SC, and I’m voting for Perry.

I wouldn’t worry about Nikki Haley’s endorsement of Romney. Her endorsement is like McCain’s endorsement, is that supposed to help or hurt Romney? LOL.

Perry is probably referring to “real Republicans” as in Southerners, as in, you know, conservatives. As in, folks who won’t be as enamored with Yankee candidates like Romney and Santorum.

Gig’em Ags, and go Perry!

IcedTea on January 4, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Here we go!!.. Go Team Perry..:)

Dire Straits on January 4, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Excellent post!!! :)

John the Libertarian on January 4, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Glad Gov Perry is staying in the race. Nothing to do with candidates making calls, etc. This only helps Romney. Good

Redford on January 4, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Good for Perry…!

… I can’t wait for the debate.

Seven Percent Solution on January 4, 2012 at 9:01 PM

He needs to poll at least 7% to get in the debate. I hope his SC team is working overtime. Last polls we have from SC was still during the Newt boom. I wonder how it looks now.

ZGMF_Freedom on January 4, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Looking at McCain and Romney side-to-side reminds me of why most Republicans went for McCain in ’08. :-(

We’re doomed.

Punchenko on January 4, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Ah, but Huck was an Evangelical Southerner, not a Northern Catholic. Huck also was a successful, two-term GOVERNOR, not a mere senator who got beaten epically for re-election (Santorum lost by almost 20-freaking-%, it was historic).

Aslans Girl on January 4, 2012 at 8:59 PM

SC is not about regionalism, if that was the case McCain wouldn’t have won and Fred Thompson would have done better than 3rd. It’s about constituencies, and the folks that came out for Santorum in Iowa were the same voters that came out for Huckabee in 08 if you look at the entrance polls.

Bluray on January 4, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Excellent post!!! :)

John the Libertarian on January 4, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Seconded!!! :)

Norm!!!

carbon_footprint on January 4, 2012 at 9:04 PM

nancysabet on January 4, 2012 at 8:30 PM

You are closer to the truth than maybe you know. Obama and company have wanted Romney as the opponent from Day 1, since he’s the poster boy of “Wall Street”, i.e., rich guys making all the money while regular folks get laid off from the former’s exploitation.

And that’s why the OWS was started in the first place (by O-Team) and the O campaign began the class-warfare strategy, knowing the media would project this election into “Obama v. Wall Street”, the middle class protector against the “Man.” It’s a smart strategy, and why we cannot let this nomination go to Romney.

Obama, et al., cannot pull that strategy and meme on any of the others, nor do any of the others have the health care weakness, like Romney. The happiest people from last night’s Iowa results were in and around 1600.

TXUS on January 4, 2012 at 9:06 PM

SC is not about regionalism, if that was the case McCain wouldn’t have won and Fred Thompson would have done better than 3rd. It’s about constituencies, and the folks that came out for Santorum in Iowa were the same voters that came out for Huckabee in 08 if you look at the entrance polls.

Bluray on January 4, 2012 at 9:04 PM

SC is about the military. McCain’s service helped him tremendously. Perry is hoping his service will help.

ZGMF_Freedom on January 4, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Between the chairs spindles?

Heh.

SlaveDog on January 4, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Santorum’s organization and ability to stay on message led to one of the greatest political comebacks ever and can’t be understated. No key staff members were fired, resigned and he took his repeated messages to the people in a personal Bill Clinton-eque manner. At the same time, Santorum quietly got major key endorsements that I’ve mentioned before…political, evangelical, young, Huckabee fans, etc. He did the unthinkable with a laser focus and uncanny political skills that may turn out to be the GOPs equivalent to 42.

Santorum is already establishing himself the same way in NH that worked in IA. And NH can go Conservative. Nobody knows NH and had more success there than Santorum’s campaign manager in that state. Together, Biuodo and Monier, are putting in place the same ground attack that was used in Iowa to bring a candidate back from the brink in 12 days like Secretariat.

As for SC, watch Ralph Reed closely. He hasn’t endorsed but getting close to Santorum. Ralph Reed, with 45% evangelicals in SC, will be KEY. His knowledge and list of friends makes Arni Gold’s rolodex look meek.

Deep Timber on January 4, 2012 at 9:08 PM

You folks are really losing touch. Ask yourself the prime questions that should be ask and forget all this nonsense.

Who has the best resume for the job?
Who has proven through their record: strong leadership, job growth, less regulations, good economy in their state, can contrast well against Obama, experience in governing.
Who has the best record and most conservative that can compete?

All this other nonsense is just that – nonsense. Start looking at a persons record and qualifications and stop this insane nonsense that will get us Obama again.

Perry 2012

bzip on January 4, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Glad Gov Perry is staying in the race. Nothing to do with candidates making calls, etc. This only helps Romney. Good

Redford on January 4, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Not if Perry takes down Santorum and hurts his chances in SC. :-)

John McCain 147,733 33.15% 18
Mike Huckabee 132,990 29.84% 6
Fred Thompson 69,681 15.63% 0
Mitt Romney 68,177 15.3%

I’ll let you take a guess who is playing Huckabee and Fred Thompson in SC. Mitt is already Mitt and John McCain is… ???.

Newt in New Hampshire today:

GingerGibson
Newt: “I think the Republican Congress should have investigated bad things in the Bush administration.”

Maverick!

Punchenko on January 4, 2012 at 9:10 PM

If he does well there, he’ll burst Santorum’s bubble, finish off Gingrich, and lay to rest whatever remains of Huntsman’s campaign after his likely defeat in New Hampshire.

That’s the whole bloody point. Santorum’s Not-Romney surge came too late to for his opponents to run negatives on him. Had he surged earlier, and Iowans had had time to see the real Santorum, a great deal of his support might have moved back to Perry, who is, I still believe, the most attractive Not-Romney in the race. I think Perry genuinely planned to quit, but was asked to stay in and help burst the Santorum bubble. With an infantalized Gingrich now telegraphing his plan to work with Santorum to take out Romney, the move makes sense.

But wait, you shout, Perry and Mitt hate each other; Perry would never jump to his rescue. Well, old Maverick hates Romney too, but he endorsed him today because it’s what the establishment wants, and Perry is an estabishment guy to the core. They are all establishment guys (and gals); there are only establishment guys the establishment likes, and the ones it doesn’t like. Perry will do what he is asked to do.

Perry’s job is to see that Santorum doesn’t make it out of South Carolina. Let’s see if he can do it.

Mr. Arkadin on January 4, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Excellent post!!! :)

John the Libertarian on January 4, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Norm!!..LoLz..:)

Dire Straits on January 4, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Boy, AP that was good!
The media has overblown Iowa though.
While they go nuts recording every burp and fart of 120,000 people for a few months in Iowa…The big squirrel on the other side is hoarding all the ‘other’ nuts, unbeknown st to the other 300 million other baby American squirrels (whose nests are blowing out of trees or in flame), because the media has the opportunity, (sigh)again…to ignore what ‘their big squirrel’ is doing!
The media has eaten up several months now, just in one state…They, have been proclaiming…”Look at that squirrel..look at that squirrel…HEY!…Look at that squirrel!”
The media has to keep this up for only 11 more months…before we all realize…we have no nuts, (face palm) again!
(There! Now I sound like a Paulnut!)

KOOLAID2 on January 4, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Perry’s had really, really good debates in the past four or five of them (I’ve lost count) and hasn’t had a gaffe since 11/9/11 with the “oops” moment. I even believed him when he said he was starting to enjoy the debates, he’s been doing so much better, why shouldn’t he actually start liking them?

Aslans Girl on January 4, 2012 at 8:57 PM

No he hasn’t. They’ve been average at best, but better than his first few. You’re too kind.

Deep Timber on January 4, 2012 at 9:12 PM

I know very little about John Tammy*, but if you had not read his Forbes piece on Romney and his economic plan, you should.

About Mitt Romney, the Republicans Can’t Be Serious

http://tinyurl.com/cw26e3b

*”I’m editor of both Forbes Opinions and RealClearMarkets.com, plus a senior economic advisor to H.C. Wainwright Economics and Toreador Research & Trading. I have a weekly column on Mondays at Forbes.com.”

so-notbuyingit on January 4, 2012 at 9:14 PM

As for SC, watch Ralph Reed closely. He hasn’t endorsed but getting closeonly has eyes for to Santorum. Ralph Reed, with 45% evangelicals in SC, will be KEY.

Deep Timber on January 4, 2012 at 9:08 PM

This is why SC primaries have made me nauseated for 25 years. 2% economy, 10% national security, 88% abortion, gay sex, etc. Santorum is a one-trick pony on that so-con broken record. Of course Reed will endorse him if he’s polling over single digits…

MTLassen on January 4, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Seconded!!! :)

Norm!!!

carbon_footprint on January 4, 2012 at 9:04 PM

LoLz..:)

PS..Good to see you..Hope the Holiday Season was good..:)

Dire Straits on January 4, 2012 at 9:15 PM

As far as Perry goes, maybe someone (Rush?) threw him a $bone…

so-notbuyingit on January 4, 2012 at 9:17 PM

What’s the big deal about Perry saying “real Republicans”, especially when he clarified what he meant by the statement? He was talking about Democrats and lots of them voted last night, so I don’t give much credence to the results – especially since most of them went for Paul, who is totally unelectable. I don’t want “Operation Chaos” Democrats and other nutty uninformed or protest voters knocking out solid conservatives like Perry before the race really gets going. I’m also disappointed that so many evangelicals were duped into voting for Santorum, who owes his strong showing last night solely to not being vetted like the other non-Romney candidates were.

I hate open primaries and I really think the GOP should seriously consider holding closed primaries in future elections/caucii. It’s stupid that two very small states chart the course for the rest of the primaries, shortchanging the other states. SC also needs to change it’s open primary rule as well.

Perry was right to stay in the race, so I’m very curious to see how it goes in SC, even if it is an open primary. I do think he’ll do better there than in IA. He’s still got lots of money and opportunities at upcoming debates to restate his case. He needs to go full attack on ALL the candidates – not just Santorum. Of course if he fades there, he is done. Not sure who I’ll support at that point, but it definitely will not be Romney.

Perry 2012.

conservativemusician on January 4, 2012 at 9:17 PM

nancysabet on January 4, 2012 at 8:30 PM

The most common sense post on HotAir over the entire last week.

You can see this one miles away.

Like a 100-mile wide asteroid on a confirmed collision couse to Earth.

And…there is nothing we can do about it.

He wins…we tune out.

Not because we are pouty or vindictive.

But simply because….we will not be able to help ourselves.

Obama will win and we will hopefully get the mother of all gridlock.

silver lining: More time in 2012 to work local elections or simply to take that other hobby up like fishing or spending time with family and friends, etc.

KirknBurker on January 4, 2012 at 9:18 PM

J

ust speculating on this, but last night after Perrys speech, there were reports that Santorum immediately got on the phone and called Perry. My guess is, he was seeking and endorsement. When I read that Santorum was calling Perry I was thinking that it was too soon. I think it probably rubbed Perry the wrong way. Plus I think his donors would have been mad had he not at least given South Carolina a shot. He has three million dollars of others peoples money, Im guessing they want him to spend it and at least make this last stand in South Carolina. Stranger things have happened then Rick Perry winning South Carolina, its entirely possible given the fluidity of the race. So I think after a little bit of sleep and the other factors he realized he has nothing to lose staying in.

nswider on January 4, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Santorum’s fundraising letter he sent multiple times didn’t help either…many Perry supports got them in their e-mail this morning. Pissed a lot of us off.

Perry won’t leave before Texas in April & he’s got nowhere to go but up…Texas has 155 delegates & Perry will get most of them.

Bachmann quit, Paul is trending down, Newt is treading aside Romney and Santorum will deflate after his vetting. Newt will shred Romney in the debates while Romney tries to shred Santorum.

workingclass artist on January 4, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Explain a few things to me. One: Why did he announce publicly last night that he was “reassessing” if he truly hadn’t decided to quit yet?

Explain something to me, AllahP.

Since when did the punditry spin “re-assess my candidacy” to something other than re-assessing one’s candidacy?

Why must the media always inject themselves into stories?

When Perry announced he was going to Texas to re-assess his candidacy, some media outlets jumped the gun and claimed he was quitting thereby allowing them to generate a “scandal” once he decides he will press on.

Maybe next time you just take Perry at his word?

I know – politicians like Perry who say what they mean and mean what they say are hard to find nowadays.

TheRightMan on January 4, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Santorum will be shredded on his way to South Carolina. The Santorum people might freak out and flock back to Perry, especially if he has good debate performances.

andy85719 on January 4, 2012 at 8:32 PM

From my understanding, Perry will not likely even be in the SC debate. They have criteria to limit number of debaters (including only having the top four from the Iowa primary and top performers in NH).

bw222 on January 4, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Dire Straits on January 4, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Good to see you! Glad the holidays are over and the routine is back.
Many blessings to you and yours.

carbon_footprint on January 4, 2012 at 9:23 PM

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