Paul: Gingrich a “chickenhawk”

posted at 10:00 am on January 4, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

At first, I wondered why Ron Paul would spend his morning after Iowa recycling Democratic demagoguery from two presidential cycles ago.  Then I remembered who was talking:

Ron Paul came out swinging Wednesday against Newt Gingrich for calling him a dangerous candidate, dubbing Gingrich a chickenhawk who avoided the Vietnam War.

“I don’t want to fight a war that’s unconstitutional and I’m the dangerous person? You know, when Newt Gingrich was called to service in the 1960s during the Vietnam era, guess what he thought about danger? He chickened out on that, he got deferments and didn’t even go,” Paul said on CNN later in the morning.

“So right now he sends these young kids over there to endure the danger, and the kids coming back, the young people coming back and the ones in the military right now, they overwhelmingly support my campaign. We get twice as much support from active military personnel than all the other candidates put together. So, Newt Gingrich has no business talking about danger because he is putting other people in danger. Some people call that kind of a program a chickenhawk and I think he falls into that category,” Paul said.

Like most of Paul’s arguments, this is an exercise is hyperventilation and contradiction.  First, Gingrich hasn’t sent any “young kids” anywhere; when Gingrich was last in office, it was before 9/11, and he was Speaker of the House, not President.  In fact, between the two of them, only Ron Paul has voted to send “young kids” to war, with his assenting vote on the 2001 AUMF regarding Afghanistan (a correct vote, by the way).  Second, c0ntrol of military policy properly belongs in the hands of elected civilian government, not the military itself.  This attack relies on a rather fascistic notion that only those who have been in uniform can make those decisions, which would invalidate the entire idea of free elections.  Gingrich didn’t break any laws in seeking and gaining those deferments, and it has little bearing on the wisdom of one’s national security policies, unless the presumption is that a flight surgeon from the 1960s has some special national-security insight that can’t be learned through study elsewhere.

However, that’s not the real message from Paul in this attack.  At a moment when he should be taking aim at one of the two front-runners, Paul is wasting time and effort getting personal and nasty with a man he beat by eight points and thousands of votes in yesterday’s caucuses.  That signals a sense of frustration, desperation, and a serious lack of focus from Paul.  Clearly the Paul campaign thought they would win in Iowa and make a case for national consideration; instead, they fell thousands of votes short of both Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney.  Paul could have easily shrugged off Gingrich as irrelevant, had he considered his finish last night a positive development.  Instead, with only a third-place showing and little hope of gaining any traction in the next couple of states, Paul will fade back to the fringe quickly enough.

Update: My friend David Freddoso reminds me that Gingrich voted for the AUMF for the first Gulf War in 1990, but that hardly negates the point above.  In terms of current conflicts, which have been the focus of Paul’s vehement campaigning, Gingrich didn’t cast a vote at all, and Paul voted for one of the two AUMFs in question.


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This guy is beyond nuts…

OmahaConservative on January 4, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Get back in your attic, Herr Doktor.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 4, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Anyone who uses the word “chickenhawk” in political discussion is not entitled to be taken seriously.

Red Cloud on January 4, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Instead, with only a third-place showing and little hope of gaining any traction in the next couple of states, Paul will fade back to the fringe quickly enough.

Of course he will Ed.

You keep whistling past that graveyard… keep whistling right on down the road to Tampa.

JohnGalt23 on January 4, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Get back in your attic, Herr Doktor.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 4, 2012 at 10:04 AM

What’s more annoying? People who refer to Ron Paul as ‘Dr’ or the ‘Herr Doktor’ folks?

Notorious GOP on January 4, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Paul then went on to attack Herman Cain who he noted was responsible for being CEO of the pizza chain that once delivered a pizza to Ron’s house with too few pepperoni slices.

Bishop on January 4, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Paul will fade back to the fringe quickly enough.

Won’t be soon enough for me…

OmahaConservative on January 4, 2012 at 10:06 AM

With Perry, Bachmann, Cain & Johnson out of the nomination fight, Tea Partiers are only left with one option. I don’t think Paul will fade to the fringe anytime soon.

napoleon on January 4, 2012 at 10:06 AM

I thought he was channeling Foghorn Leghorn.

/

ted c on January 4, 2012 at 10:06 AM

As much as i would like to see someone like Paul running, he has too many negatives for me to support. The negatives include the typical dodging of certain questions politicians do. The lack of clear concise answers and he is just a tad too old for my liking. Who knows when Alzheimer’s is going to set in.

belad on January 4, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Instead, with only a third-place showing and little hope of gaining any traction in the next couple of states, Paul will fade back to the fringe quickly enough.

It’s an utter travesty he’s done so well thus far. We know him all too well by the company he keeps.

KingGold on January 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM

It’s not like he is a serious candidate anyway; he can’t even envision himself in the White House.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on January 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM

So did or didn’t Newt kill over a million Iraqis?

This could really mess up Teh Crazy Uncle’s talking points, y’know.

whatcat on January 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Paul voted for military intervention in Afghanistan? Is that “non-interventionist”?

TXGOP on January 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM

I have been reading like crazy but refraining from comment. Just read Powwerline about Ron Paul not being a Republican.
No surprise…………however.

We are so screwed.

ORconservative on January 4, 2012 at 10:09 AM

That signals a sense of frustration, desperation, and a serious lack of focus from Paul.

Eh, I think it’s just Ron Paul being Ron Paul.

For an ordinary candidate this would be a huge deal, but honestly, “Ron Paul calls rival a chickenhawk” really is “Dog bites man”.

RINO in Name Only on January 4, 2012 at 10:10 AM

So did or didn’t Newt kill over a million Iraqis?

This could really mess up Teh Crazy Uncle’s talking points, y’know.

whatcat on January 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Judging by his unwillingness to wear his nation’s uniform, I would guess that Newt doesn’t have the fortitude to kill anything stronger than his marriage.

JohnGalt23 on January 4, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Gingrich wants to get in a dustup so bad, he should remember that he’s no saint.

rubberneck on January 4, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Uncle Crackershad his moment in the sun. I don’t know how he will fare in NH, but I don’t see him getting any support in the south.

Southernblogger on January 4, 2012 at 10:10 AM

With Perry, Bachmann, Cain & Johnson out of the nomination fight, Tea Partiers are only left with one option. I don’t think Paul will fade to the fringe anytime soon.

napoleon on January 4, 2012 at 10:06 AM

The Tea Partiers might want to get some stronger candidates to run instead of sulking.

belad on January 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Didn’t he say that about someone else just last week?

Cindy Munford on January 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Ron Paul/Sid Huntsman 2012!

Sore Loser party.

somewhatconcerned on January 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

And when did GOPers start protecting Vietnam deferments like Gingrich?

Notorious GOP on January 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

The Paul supporters do realize that he is not going to be the GOP nominee – don’t they?

katiejane on January 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

belad on January 4, 2012 at 10:07 AM

When?
More like… What stage it is actually in?

ORconservative on January 4, 2012 at 10:12 AM

That signals a sense of frustration, desperation, and a serious lack of focus from Paul.

Focus has never been Paul’s forte. He always sounds like you just woke the guy up from his nap: “Huh? What are you saying?”, a la Grandpa Simpson.

whatcat on January 4, 2012 at 10:12 AM

It’s an utter travesty he’s done so well thus far. We know him all too well by the company he keeps.

KingGold on January 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Well, you can always jump on the Frothy bandwagon.

I’m sure he has staying power.

/sarc

(See, what I did there KG… let’s people know it is a joke, and not me being a dumbass)

JohnGalt23 on January 4, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Who would have thought-Ron Paul making a typical leftist argument../

melle1228 on January 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Voting to send kids into a war isn’t what makes you a chickenhawk. A chickenhawk is a hawkish politician (which Gingrich is) that refused to serve himself. It’s really only relevant as long as the Vietnam War is. In another cycle or two, the term won’t have much meaning anymore. But, I do agree that Paul is wasting his breath on Gingrich.

Instead, with only a third-place showing and little hope of gaining any traction in the next couple of states, Paul will fade back to the fringe quickly enough.

The laughable part, even after a third place showing, Paul still has a better chance than Santorum. Talk about making Iowa irrelevant.

gyrmnix on January 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

And when did GOPers start protecting Vietnam deferments like Gingrich?

Notorious GOP on January 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

The moment it got taken over by cowards like Gingrich and Santorum.

JohnGalt23 on January 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Somehow, I would never think “Foghorn Leghorn” and “Ron Paul” belong together in the same sentence.

Yet, here we are.

Yiwen on January 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Paul was drafted after medical school and his internship into the USAF as a doctor with the rank of Captain. He never says it, but it is highly likely that he also received college deferments while he was an undergrad and med student.

College deferments were commonplace at the time that Gingrich was a student. He did nothing wrong.

Reno_Dave on January 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Paul is still on the fringe, he’s simply getting noticed as he capers and hollers way out there on the edge.

Bishop on January 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Iran’s Mullahs are deeply saddened today from last night’s poor performance by Ron Paul’s cut/paste spammers.

Maybe Ron Paul can go to French Guinana now and setup a colony of Ron Paul drones?

Bleed_thelizard on January 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Gingrich is a chickenhawk Herr Doktor? Well you are a racist, anti-semitic lying hypocritical nutjob, now go crawl back in your cave and “not” write more newsletters. You and your supporters are neither needed or wanted.

Rogue on January 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM

The Paul supporters do realize that he is not going to be the GOP nominee – don’t they? – katiejane on January 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

They apparently don’t really care.

SC.Charlie on January 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM

When did the saying “He’s not wrapped too tight!” appear?
And… when was RP first elected to office?

KOOLAID2 on January 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM

whatcat on January 4, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Nailed it. Perfect visual

Southernblogger on January 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM

The Paul supporters do realize that he is not going to be the GOP nominee – don’t they?

katiejane on January 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

So should we bid Rick Santorum adieu too?

Notorious GOP on January 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM

So how well is Paul going to do in the closed primary states?

Kataklysmic on January 4, 2012 at 10:15 AM

JohnGalt23 on January 4, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Still a little bitter over a third place finish, areya…?

JohnTant on January 4, 2012 at 10:15 AM

(See, what I did there KG… let’s people know it is a joke, and not me being a dumbass)

JohnGalt23 on January 4, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Hardy har har.

Here’s a good joke. Your guy hangs out on a Truther’s radio show and accepts campaign cash from the managers of an online race-hate clearinghouse.

Oh, wait. That was a fact, not a joke.

KingGold on January 4, 2012 at 10:17 AM

Judging by his unwillingness to wear his nation’s uniform, I would guess that Newt doesn’t have the fortitude to kill anything stronger than his marriage.

JohnGalt23 on January 4, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Funny how many Ron Paul supporters wear the uniform of the prime axis power of WW II and no comment from you.

G M on January 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

So how well is Paul going to do in the closed primary states?

Kataklysmic on January 4, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Not great. 2nd place in NH would be fine, but SC and Florida look to be challenges. I think the next set of states (NV,ME, CO,etc.) are his main focus after SC/FL.

Notorious GOP on January 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Paul, however, is not a chickenhawk, ~he’s a loon.

profitsbeard on January 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Clearly the Paul campaign thought they would win in Iowa and make a case for national consideration; instead, they fell thousands of votes short of both Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney.

This was exactly the impression I got listening to Paul’s “concession” speech last night – no hint of “we performed well, now let keep the momentum and go win the next one”, all “we stuck to our talking points and had some influence on the discussion and we’re smart and everyone else is stupid because they don’t agree with us but we made our point even if we have no chance of winning anything”.

peski on January 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

At the next debate I do wish the panel would ask each participant:

1) What should the reaction of the USA to the Iran warning to keep our aircraft carriers out of the Arabian Gulf.

2) What should do if Iran does attempt to close the straights of Horumz.

SC.Charlie on January 4, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Not great. 2nd place in NH would be fine, but SC and Florida look to be challenges. I think the next set of states (NV,ME, CO,etc.) are his main focus after SC/FL.

Notorious GOP on January 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

In your opinion, will he mount a 3rd party run if he isn’t the nominee, doesn’t like who is, and feels the GOP has disrespected him and his base?

Kataklysmic on January 4, 2012 at 10:21 AM

When does Rand cut his dad loose? I was looking forward to Rand’s being a real thorn in the side of the left for years to come. His seeming full-throated support for his dad will enable the left to marginalize him.

BuckeyeSam on January 4, 2012 at 10:21 AM

The Paul supporters do realize that he is not going to be the GOP nominee – don’t they?

katiejane on January 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Not a clue.

katy the mean old lady on January 4, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Paul was drafted after medical school and his internship into the USAF as a doctor with the rank of Captain. He never says it, but it is highly likely that he also received college deferments while he was an undergrad and med student.

College deferments were commonplace at the time that Gingrich was a student. He did nothing wrong.

Reno_Dave on January 4, 2012 at 10:13 AM

And it isn’t like Gingrich just parked himself in college for a few years until the draft was over; he got a Ph.D. and became a professor. And unlike Ron Paul, he has actually studied and written books about military history, world history, and American history. I would trust his knowledge and views on foreign affairs and threats to the U.S. way more than Ron Paul’s, every day of the week.

rockmom on January 4, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Strange little man.

jake-the-goose on January 4, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Kataklysmic on January 4, 2012 at 10:21 AM

No and there are many others who while they support him 100%, don’t want him to run 3rd party. I think it’s a 50/50 split or 60/40 (yes/no) split on wanting him to run 3rd party and he needs 100% of those people.

Notorious GOP on January 4, 2012 at 10:23 AM

The Paul supporters do realize that he is not going to be the GOP nominee – don’t they? – katiejane on January 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

They apparently don’t really care.

SC.Charlie on January 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM

I don’t think Ron does either. He’s not in it to win it. Come to think of it, I’m not really sure why he’s in it.

beatcanvas on January 4, 2012 at 10:23 AM

And unlike Ron Paul, he has actually studied and written books about military history, world history, and American history.

rockmom on January 4, 2012 at 10:22 AM

But Paul had a newslett…. never mind.

peski on January 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM

BTW, “chickenhawk” is a classic Leftwing epithet. A real conservative would never use it.

rockmom on January 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM

“The GOP had better not marginalize Ron Paul and his supporters after this, because Ron Paul and his supporters understand that a lot of Americans are war-weary and we are broke. And he has reached these constituencies who are very concernced about the solvency of the U.S. and he has proposed solutions with his austerity measures that he’d like to see implemented. So the GOP had better listen to what these Ron Paul supporters are saying. They better work with them.”

–Sarah Palin

Abby Adams on January 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Ot:dear leader defying precedent once again, going to appoint cordry

Lsm giddy

cmsinaz on January 4, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Funny how many Ron Paul supporters wear the uniform of the prime axis power of WW II and no comment from you.

G M on January 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Link? Or are you, like most haters here, talking out of your rectum?

I suspect the latter.

JohnGalt23 on January 4, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Newt’s a dishonest scumbag, and Paul’s a loony toon with loonier followers.

I’m glad they’re both taking swings at eachother, let’s hope for a Rocky 1 style double KO.

Ruiner on January 4, 2012 at 10:27 AM

It often amazes me that rational people take this lunatic seriously. I know several well educated conservative Missouri Synod Lutheran pastors who support him..

OmahaConservative on January 4, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Gingrich is a chickenhawk Herr Doktor? Well you are a racist, anti-semitic lying hypocritical nutjob, now go crawl back in your cave and “not” write more newsletters. You and your supporters are neither needed or wanted.

Rogue on January 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Newt is the only one who knows where all the bodies are buried and that’s what the establishment, the Rhino GOP-ers are concerned about. He’s the only one who will fight for us and not for the powers that be. In this world it has always been who has the power and the final say and in last 60 years the ”say” of the American people has been silenced. It is now time to elect someone who will carry out the “will of the people” instead of the will of all those power hungry elitist.

Shain1611 on January 4, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Going, going……….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBaC3KNkK30

Bmore on January 4, 2012 at 10:28 AM

It’s not like he is a serious candidate anyway; he can’t even envision himself in the White House.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on January 4, 2012 at 10:08 AM

FINALLY! Common ground with a Romney supporter.

makattak on January 4, 2012 at 10:29 AM

OmahaConservative on January 4, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Why are you afraid of supporting the most pro-liberty candidate in the field? Or do you love someone telling you how to live your life?

Notorious GOP on January 4, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Uncle Ron has more revelations to bring forward.

Just you wait until he blows the lid off the Romney-Illuminati connection.

CorporatePiggy on January 4, 2012 at 10:30 AM

That signals a sense of frustration, desperation, and a serious lack of focus from Paul.

So is that what we are calling temper tantrums these days? Both losers Paul and Gingrich have had meltdowns that prove they shouldn’t ever consider running for the Presidency. We already have a thin-skinned immature idiot in office, Gingrich and Paul have proven they are just more of the same.

Happy Nomad on January 4, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Barney Frank/Ron Paul – Sustainable Defense Task Force.

The name you need to know from it is: George Soros.

So how does such a Task Force with Ron Paul on it get so many minions of Soros?

And since he sees the US as the major obstacle to his plans, just why would anyone want them on a Task Force looking at America’s future defense?

ajacksonian on January 4, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Paul and his supporters cling to this notion that he has a lot of support from the military, and they could not be more wrong. Most of us think he is certifiable.

thuljunior on January 4, 2012 at 10:31 AM

The Paul supporters do realize that he is not going to be the GOP nominee – don’t they?
katiejane on January 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Not a clue.
katy the mean old lady on January 4, 2012 at 10:21 AM

And couldn’t even buy a clue.

whatcat on January 4, 2012 at 10:32 AM

This is about 1000th time he has done this…please tell me why this is now news

georgealbert on January 4, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Paul then went on to attack Herman Cain who he noted was responsible for being CEO of the pizza chain that once delivered a pizza to Ron’s house with too few pepperoni slices.

Bishop on January 4, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Ironically, in this GOP field, that is enough of a platform to persuade some of those “undecided” voters to jump on the Paul bandwagon. But then again, he risks alienating the vegetarian crowd.

red villain on January 4, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Second, c0ntrol of military policy properly belongs in the hands of elected civilian government, not the military itself. This attack relies on a rather fascistic notion that only those who have been in uniform can make those decisions, which would invalidate the entire idea of free elections.

Why would you call this idea “fascist”? It is at odds with our system of government certainly, but also, for example, National Socialist Germany’s system where the military was also under civilian control – specifically Hitler and the National Socialist Party.

This brings to mind “Starship Troopers” where a similar, and similarly wrong headed, fascist label is thrown around carelessly.

To be clear, I’m not endorsing the idea. But we should strive to be accurate, and not throw around loaded political terms falsely for effect as the left does.

18-1 on January 4, 2012 at 10:33 AM

We get twice as much support from active military personnel than all the other candidates put together.

This is NOT true. Paul gets twice as many DONATIONS from military personnel than all other candidates combined. Donations to not correlate to support. In the 2008 primaries, exit polls showed Ron Paul, as usual, receiving only 3% of the veteran vote.

The man is drinking his own Kool-Aid if he believes he has the support of the military.

BohicaTwentyTwo on January 4, 2012 at 10:33 AM

I think Paul hit his high water mark in Iowa.He will still be around but not at 22% nor 15%more like 6% to 8%.

logman1 on January 4, 2012 at 10:33 AM

Isn’t this guy the wrong age and in the wrong primary?

NoDonkey on January 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM

What’s more annoying? People who refer to Ron Paul as ‘Dr’ or the ‘Herr Doktor’ folks?

Notorious GOP on January 4, 2012 at 10:05 AM

.
What’s the choice behind door number three?

ExpressoBold on January 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM

The Paul supporters do realize that he is not going to be the GOP nominee – don’t they?

katiejane on January 4, 2012 at 10:11 AM

So should we bid Rick Santorum adieu too?

Notorious GOP on January 4, 2012

Yep.
Santorum is as unelectable as Pat Robertson. Oh, and Ron Paul.

~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on January 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM

It’s amazing to me that the GOP hates a guy who’s exactly the opposite of Obama in almost every way.

Notorious GOP on January 4, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Barney Frank/Ron Paul – Sustainable Defense Task Force.

The name you need to know from it is: George Soros.

So how does such a Task Force with Ron Paul on it get so many minions of Soros?

And since he sees the US as the major obstacle to his plans, just why would anyone want them on a Task Force looking at America’s future defense?

ajacksonian on January 4, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Anti-semitic America-haters flock together.

ebrown2 on January 4, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Paul and his supporters cling to this notion that he has a lot of support from the military, and they could not be more wrong. Most of us think he is certifiable.

thuljunior on January 4, 2012 at 10:31 AM

You might think that way, but clearly a lot of miltary members do support him.

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/jul/23/ron-paul/ron-paul-says-members-military-have-given-him-far-/

Abby Adams on January 4, 2012 at 10:36 AM

It’s amazing to me that the GOP hates a guy who’s exactly the opposite of Obama in almost every way.

Notorious GOP on January 4, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Except for the fact that he channels Rev. Wright, and shares Obama’s hatred for Jews and this country’s founding principles.

ebrown2 on January 4, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Link? Or are you, like most haters here, talking out of your rectum?

I suspect the latter.

JohnGalt23 on January 4, 2012 at 10:27 AM

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/the_ron_paul_campaign_and_its.html

The Ron Paul Campaign and its Neo-Nazi Supporters

G M on January 4, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Karl Magnus on January 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Romney/Santorum 2012?

Bmore on January 4, 2012 at 10:38 AM

bad night? he doubled his votes from 2008 and finished a strong third behind Super PAC Romney who did not really increase from last election, thus getting a good chunk of IA delegates. Not bad for a “kooky” “dangerous” “crazy” “nut” – did I leave out any… adjectives? you know who had a bad night? Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann.

drlax15m on January 4, 2012 at 10:38 AM

As Ed has already pointed out, the only thing that is important in this “story” is that the whole premise of the chickenhawk that Paul uses is fallacious. To reiterate, Paul’s premise states that only someone who has served in the military is qualified when the subject of the military arises. An idea that is nonlogical. To follow the premise’s logic, then only felons are qualified to talk about how bad prison is? Or only bakers are allowed to talk about the quality of baked goods?

While in the grand scheme of things this comment doesn’t really matter, it does make me wonder exactly what is going on behind the scenes that prompted such a response. Whatever it was, I bet it wasn’t even Gingrich related. Sort of like a guy tripping on a crack in the sidewalk and kicking a cat in blame.

Weebork on January 4, 2012 at 10:39 AM

What’s the big, I say, what’s the big idea. Be quiet, I say, quiet when I’m talkin’ to ya. The boy’s makin’ more noise then a couplea skeletons throwin’ a fit on a tin roof.

The Rogue Tomato on January 4, 2012 at 10:39 AM

ebrown2 on January 4, 2012 at 10:37 AM

How does ‘they should fend for themselves’ equal to hating someone?

Notorious GOP on January 4, 2012 at 10:39 AM

If there are chickenhawks, might there not also be hawkchickens? And, if there are hawkchickens, might not Mr. Paul stand somewhat stiffly within their ranks?

Perhaps Paul would do better as a Democrat.

unclesmrgol on January 4, 2012 at 10:39 AM

Paul and his supporters cling to this notion that he has a lot of support from the military, and they could not be more wrong. Most of us think he is certifiable.

thuljunior on January 4, 2012 at 10:31 AM

With Paul’s views on foreign affairs and how he would treat the military if CINC; no military member should be supporting this nutjob. He clearly is clueless and wrong-headed as he preaches an isolationism that makes our nation less safe because he’d let our enemies do whatever just as long as they don’t do it on U.S. soil.

Happy Nomad on January 4, 2012 at 10:41 AM

Funny how many Ron Paul supporters wear the uniform of the prime axis power of WW II and no comment from you.

G M on January 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Be quiet! You are a commenter, but he is a blogger! He outranks you!

unclesmrgol on January 4, 2012 at 10:41 AM

Anyone who uses the word “chickenhawk” in political discussion is not entitled to be taken seriously.

Red Cloud on January 4, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Ever seen a real chickenhawk at work? Not pretty at all. That’s why I never understood the use of this particular word. Makes absolutely no sense.

Of course, the Left were the first to use it; The New Republic to be exact in 1986.

And as wiki tells us:

This example has often been attached to former Vice President Dick Cheney, who in his youth received five draft notices but sought deferment to all of them claiming he had “more important business,”

Of course, absolutely no mention by wiki of the 5 draft deferments the current Vice President got around the same time. After all, in wiki-land, Democrats are More Equal than Others.

Del Dolemonte on January 4, 2012 at 10:41 AM

The best evidence that Ron Paul is on the fringe is the lack of exuberance by son, Rand Paul, as he stood behind his Father during Ron’s thank-you speech last night.

Ron Paul is dangerous, and electing him will be suicide for America.

Sparky5253 on January 4, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Paul, however, is not a chickenhawk, ~he’s a loon.

profitsbeard on January 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Yeah, one who has ingested too many lead fishing weights.

Del Dolemonte on January 4, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Romney/Santorum 2012?

Bmore on January 4, 2012 at 10:38 AM

No.

Whoever is going to be the running mate was not on the ballot yesterday.

Happy Nomad on January 4, 2012 at 10:43 AM

How does ‘they should fend for themselves’ equal to hating someone?

Notorious GOP on January 4, 2012 at 10:39 AM

When you take a man’s money, you are beholden to them.

That is a simple principle of true libertarianism. A real lover of freedom would have donated it to the Magen David Adom and told the willfully subhuman haters of free minds and free markets to auger themselves into the ground without any prompting.

Paul is hypocritical scum. To paraphrase G.B. Shaw, we know what he is, he just negotiates on the price. (which is apparently $500)

ebrown2 on January 4, 2012 at 10:44 AM

It’s a twofer for me: I can’t stand either Paul or Gingrich–but I would pay good money to watch those two throw down. Gingrich has youth and a definite weight advantage working in his favor, but Paul strikes me as the fast, wiry type, a kind of septuagenarian Willie Pep. If Paul can avoid Newt’s lumbering, fat-guy haymakers, stay out of the corners, and hold out to the last round, he might take it on points.

troyriser_gopftw on January 4, 2012 at 10:44 AM

How can anyone who consistently gets the support of about 10% of the country be “fringe”? Please for the sake of everything that is rational or logical stop using this term!!
I have to stop reading HA because you guys are driving me to anger.
I love Hot Air. But I also love the thing that Ron Paul stands for… why can’t you just tone down the anti-Paul rhetoric? You disagree with him on several issues, got it. But you disagree with every candidate on several issues and you don’t get this vile with them.

therambler on January 4, 2012 at 10:45 AM

I love Hot Air. But I also love the thing that Ron Paul stands for… why can’t you just tone down the anti-Paul rhetoric? You disagree with him on several issues, got it. But you disagree with every candidate on several issues and you don’t get this vile with them.

therambler on January 4, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Because the things I disagree with Romney about don’t involve paranoid conspiracy rants about “New Money,” endangering my kids’ lives, coddling terrorists, or watching a texas-two-step around who wrote racist crap in a million dollar a year newsletter.

With Romney I have disagreements about policy.

With Paul I have disagreements as to his relative sanity.

JohnTant on January 4, 2012 at 10:49 AM

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