It begins: Romney is a “Massachusetts moderate at best,” says Gingrich
posted at 10:04 pm on January 2, 2012 by Allahpundit
He said it was coming and now here it comes. I think Liz Mair’s dead right:
I don’t know where Newt Gingrich will finish tomorrow night, but I bet you money he doesn’t go away or stop trashing Romney now.
Based on this Piers Morgan interview, in fact, I would assume Newt is now personally aggrieved and is going to torch Romney longer & harder.
Just for sport, I mean. Not necessarily even with the actual objective of Newt winning the nomination. Just because he can.
Prepare yourself for the next three weeks and possibly beyond by watching the first three minutes from his chat today with Bret Baier and then three more from the interview with Morgan that Mair mentions. One of his strategists is promising a “fiery” speech tomorrow night too, which I assume will unload on Romney for the negative ads. I wonder how far he’s willing to take this. In the other thread, I said he’s probably the guy who’s most likely to drop out before South Carolina and throw his support to Santorum or Perry in order to consolidate conservative voters behind a Not Romney. Can/should either of those guys offer him something now to try to make it happen? I don’t know if Newt would want to be VP — someone who thinks of himself as a figure of historical greatness probably isn’t keen on the lamest job in politics — but maybe a cabinet position of some sort? If Newt can’t be king, presumably he’d enjoy being kingmaker. What could they offer him?
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He says “Massachusetts Moderate” like it’s a bad thing. I think it’s a great general campaign slogan. We do need to start the “race to the middle” early.
adamcr on January 2, 2012 at 10:52 PM
There are none such there. No worries, you’ll get yer Kerry.
Schadenfreude on January 2, 2012 at 10:52 PM
January 3, 2012…..Newt Gingrich to Romney:
“To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell’s heart, I stab at thee; For hate’s sake, I spit my last breath at thee!!!”
csdeven on January 2, 2012 at 10:54 PM
For the record, the reason the negative ads worked because the conveyed new information and they were rooted in truth.
I’m tired of the sulking anti-Romney crowd. In about ten debates Romney answered questions about RomneyCare. They attack him all the time. His warts are well known. Yet, Newt also supported RomneyCare and went further to support federal mandates, and no one knew.
These upstarts become frontrunners with no scrutiny. Debate moderators, bloggers don’t ask the hard questions of second tier candidates. Once they become the fronrunner, the spotlight is on them and they cant handle it.
Newt did consult for Freddie. Newt was fined 300K in ethics violations. Newt did support RomneyCare. Newt did attack “right wing social engineering”.
Newt couldnt handle having his record examined. He melted.
swamp_yankee on January 2, 2012 at 10:55 PM
Maybe you haven’t heard Sarah was on Fox today saying nice things about Santorum. Also ron Paul and Donald Trump. Yeah.
Perry not so much.
str8tface on January 2, 2012 at 10:56 PM
Do you really think he thought that was going to happen? That would make him incredibly naive. It was a strategy to be the avuncular likeable guy to counteract his reputation as the mean “grinch”. And why would other candidates agree to his ground rules anyway, particularly when he’s the one with the most baggage and thus the most vulnerable?
Buy Danish on January 2, 2012 at 10:58 PM
Newt will look like a sore loser if he whines for the next three weeks. Negative campaigning is to be expected. What he’s seen so far would be nothing compared to what the Dems throw in the general.
ThanksMo on January 2, 2012 at 10:59 PM
It sure is. FOX is getting really bold in their push for Romney.
apocalypse on January 2, 2012 at 11:00 PM
They may.
But my kids do not.
IMHO Perry/West 2012
tonotisto on January 2, 2012 at 11:02 PM
How effective will his negative ads be, now that he’s announced he’s doing it out of desperation?
flataffect on January 2, 2012 at 11:02 PM
Sure, the Freddie Mac revelations (and his pathetic lying about it) and his attack on judicial independence as well as publication of his zany pronouncements had nothing to do with Gingrich’s downfall. Bachmann challenged him very effectively in the last debate on his Freddie Mac perfidy and he had no answer. That’s when the decline began.
Basilsbest on January 2, 2012 at 11:04 PM
As I’ve pointed out many times, the problem with Gingrich, Romney & Perry isn’t that they aren’t conservative enough. The problem is that you can’t trust a word they say.
Gingrich is now “taking the gloves off.” Why? Because his previous strategy (playing the big-hearted, above-the-fray elder statesman) wasn’t working any more. And so now we know it was only a show — a performance, completely disconnected from reality. And now he’s trading one performance for another. Does anybody think we’re now going to see the “real” Gingrich? If so, I’ve got a whole bunch of bridges to sell you.
Same thing with Romney, Perry, and most other politicians. Can’t trust them any further than you can throw them.
Splashman on January 2, 2012 at 11:04 PM
Probably not, but then I don’t think he expected his poll numbers to take off either.
Cindy Munford on January 2, 2012 at 11:05 PM
100% agree.
apocalypse on January 2, 2012 at 11:06 PM
Right, all of this is new information. Newt is not your problem, Obama is and the sooner you figure that out the better Romeny’s position will be. You guys say he is inevitable, he’s the best, than start acting like it. Bunch of whiny crybabies.
Cindy Munford on January 2, 2012 at 11:07 PM
Newt admitted that he didn’t want to go negative (even though he did) because all the previous frontrunners who went negative flopped.
It was all tactical. Hes no saint. Remember this arrogant interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3m_o8IcC9U
swamp_yankee on January 2, 2012 at 11:08 PM
Romney would be a disasterous Republican opponent to BHO. He adjusts his position to blow with the wind and as a leader he would be a disasterous leader because of all of those characteristics. In any event, the Republican establishment is going to be supporting Willard Romney.
apocalypse on January 2, 2012 at 11:08 PM
You are trying to make a virtue of necessity. With the skeletons in his closet and no money to pay for negative ads how could he do otherwise.
Basilsbest on January 2, 2012 at 11:08 PM
Oh, good grief. I can’t believe after all the squishes who have run and lost that this is still considered a winning strategy. You’ve seen the debt amount right? Do you think Romney is “moderate” business man?
Cindy Munford on January 2, 2012 at 11:10 PM
One work of fiction attacking another work of fiction.
FloatingRock on January 2, 2012 at 11:10 PM
This whole blog is about Newt and his supporters stamping their feet and going down like sore losers. We just provided a retort.
Its worse than hypocritical to call anyone a whiny crybaby other than Newt who obviously cant handle losing.
swamp_yankee on January 2, 2012 at 11:10 PM
Didn’t someone just put 20 million to his PAC? And that’s suppose to be a way to get ugly without fingerprints. Not that anyone buys that but they sure like to say it.
Cindy Munford on January 2, 2012 at 11:12 PM
Again, you are worrying about the wrong guy. Go after Obama or go home.
Cindy Munford on January 2, 2012 at 11:13 PM
Newt Gingrich is really pathetic.
Chudi on January 2, 2012 at 11:13 PM
Which is why he tried to lure other candidates into his ridiculous Lincoln/Douglas debates. No money and lots of baggage.
Now the real Gingrich emerges. The narcissist who goes on a scorched earth campaign when the rest of the GOP doesn’t grovel at his brilliance. Gingrich isn’t interested in winning any longer. He just wants his pound of flesh just like we have seen from many of his worshipers. Hate for the sake of it. Nothing more.
The flaw in his thinking is that Romney wont wilt under the attacks like Gingrich did. This is the third or forth time Gingrich has switched positions on negative campaigning. He’s desperate and every negative comment toward Romney will look as such.
csdeven on January 2, 2012 at 11:15 PM
Now, now Cindy.
csdeven on January 2, 2012 at 11:17 PM
Not a good sign when so-called conservative Fox News is pushing a RINO in 2012.
apocalypse on January 2, 2012 at 11:18 PM
Newt was our problem. And Romney is now yours. It’s odd for you to call us crybabies. I don’t see any justification for it. Though I do understand your frustration. You might want to switch your support to Perry and pray that the rest of the debates are cancelled.
Basilsbest on January 2, 2012 at 11:18 PM
The good guys will win. Romney will win.
Thankfully the hypocrite Gingrich and his followers will lose.
I would vote for Ron Paul before I would vote for corruption like Newt Gingrich.
If you support Gingrich you are corrupt. That is the bottom line on Gingrich. Hypocrisy and corruption are what has been revealed about the Republican Party this year. It is full of corrupt people who pretend to be conservatives. You aren’t conservative you are hypocrites.
Thank heavens Romney will get us away from you corrupt hypocrites.
petunia on January 2, 2012 at 11:18 PM
No, pathetic is when you cry about every setback Romney faces being the result of anti-Mormon bigotry. Pathetic is insulting other commenters for not having a doctoral degree. Pathetic is claiming you would never for Rick Perry because he is “EVIL!!!!1!11!1!” Gingrich is just a sore loser; you Chudi, are pathetic.
Lawdawg86 on January 2, 2012 at 11:18 PM
So Romney supporters are suppose to focus on Obama, but let Newt and others attack Romney with impugnity.
Beyond ridiculous. No wonder why the Not Romney crows always loses.
swamp_yankee on January 2, 2012 at 11:19 PM
Nope, I’m sticking with Newt, I’m making my own personal stand. You Romney folks sure like to boss and belittle. It’s very attractive.
Cindy Munford on January 2, 2012 at 11:20 PM
Come on over up-thread. :)
Midwestprincesse on January 2, 2012 at 11:23 PM
Well what do you expect them to do, make the argument based on Romney’s record?
sharrukin on January 2, 2012 at 11:24 PM
“Bunch of whiny crybabies.”
;-)
csdeven on January 2, 2012 at 11:24 PM
Yes, it’s a trick to divert you. I don’t care what you do, I’ll never understand people who’s only reaction to opposition is to destroy. It’s amazing how a man who seems so genuinely nice can have such miserable people support him.
Cindy Munford on January 2, 2012 at 11:25 PM
Newt hasn’t lost a thing yet and despite the efforts of the gurus and Republican establishment. Romney the “business man” is not going to make it with the Tea Party. The NE US keeps coming up with these “Republicans” that act like Democrats. It is what they do not what they say that counts. Hasnt anyone learned anything from the present WH incompetent. By the way, that word “BAGGAGE”- getting mighty stale. Apparently Gingrich is the only one that travels with it.
kenny on January 2, 2012 at 11:26 PM
Woah! Both of those comments are way off base. The first is double plus ironic, the second one leaves me flabbergasted because if we were to follow that edict then Hot Air might as well just close up shop until we’ve chosen a nominee.
According to your rule, you can’t say anything critical of the other candidates, and when, say, Newt attacks Mitt we’re just supposed to watch it happen because the clock started January 2, 2012 at 11:12 PM. Or perhaps you’re going to let Newt know he has to scrap his new plan of attack because it’s out of synch with Cindy Munford’s sensibilities, which is like the first rule of the Don’t Fight Club?
Buy Danish on January 2, 2012 at 11:27 PM
Woah!Whoa!Buy Danish on January 2, 2012 at 11:28 PM
Unfortunately, Swamp is not alone at HotAir. There are several other Romneybots who are pretty obnoxious to those who express a dislike for the Romney flavor of republican.
KickandSwimMom on January 2, 2012 at 11:29 PM
@Kenny
I’m not counting Newt out yet. He’s gonna have a tough time going against The Mitt Machine but I still think he has a chance.
terryannonline on January 2, 2012 at 11:32 PM
How can we expect to beat Obamacare with Romneycare? This election is going to be about drawing a stark and obvious contrast to the failure of Obama, and for SO many reasons, Mitt is absolutely the wrong candidate to do that successfully.
prekop on January 2, 2012 at 11:32 PM
I’m Anybody But Mitt, but I never, ever, ever thought that would potentially mean Santorum. If it comes down to Romney and Santorum… I’ll resign myself to Mitt Romney, and write-in Bobby Jindal in the primaries or something. Ugh.
Lawdawg86 on January 2, 2012 at 11:33 PM
@lawd
Santorum is not gonna stop Romney. The only two people who have a chance of beating Romney are Newt and Perry.
terryannonline on January 2, 2012 at 11:37 PM
It would do you some good to examine your previous two comments and your exchange tonight with MJBrutus. Your bitterness is showing.
We Romney folks have been fighting vile, vicious, and inane attacks on Romney for weeks on this site. For the most part, we have responded with facts and appeals to reason. We are not whiners. We are fighters. As is Mitt.
Basilsbest on January 2, 2012 at 11:37 PM
Right, like any of you are worried about anyone’s sensibilities. You’re right I am a member of the Don’t Fight Club because I don’t understand the way the minds work around here. I take the *facepalms* and the “idiots” and various other insults seriously. I don’t trash your guy or expect you to support mine but y’all do both. Is this really how you determine what’s best for the country?
Cindy Munford on January 2, 2012 at 11:38 PM
What are the vile and vicious attacks on Gov. Romney? I can guarantee you that they didn’t come from me.
Cindy Munford on January 2, 2012 at 11:41 PM
I understand why you feel that way and don’t blame you but I believe that it is our civic duty to consider all of the candidates negatives as well as their positives when deciding who is suitable to be the next leader of the once free world. There is too much at stake to do otherwise. It would be irresponsible to hand so much power over life and death to a man of questionable character. As unpleasant as this process is, it is crucial we take the obligation seriously.
FloatingRock on January 2, 2012 at 11:42 PM
It’s just obvious that I don’t understand the “game” as it is played.
Cindy Munford on January 2, 2012 at 11:44 PM
Now you’re lying. Dont be so self-righteous. This is an blog about Newt trashing Romney. I offered a rebuttal, and never mentioned you or made it personal. You jumped in at 11:07 and were the first one to levy personal attacks.
The seething anti-Romney fervor here is poisonous, and Romney supporters are suppose to sit on their hands and focus on Obama less they be called names. Its insane.
swamp_yankee on January 2, 2012 at 11:45 PM
A Pity Party? Really?
csdeven on January 2, 2012 at 11:45 PM
Yep, same as it ever was. I’d add Huntsman in there too; if H somehow managed to prevail in NH after Romney wins Iowa, he has enough money to make a good run at Romney. But H is hardly a rally point for disaffected conservatives. Its pretty much over, Romney has this thing in the bag, barring the most epic political collapse in modern history.
Lawdawg86 on January 2, 2012 at 11:46 PM
A job working for Donald Trump as Historian.
lexhamfox on January 2, 2012 at 11:46 PM
I don’t recall you calling out any of the ABR’s for their clueless and vicious attacks on Romney. How many times have we seen idiotic comments like he’s no different than Obama and he won’t fight Obama and other such nonsense.
Basilsbest on January 2, 2012 at 11:47 PM
@Cindy m …… It’s good to know you are in Team Newt also. Tomorrow is just beginning not the end.
terryannonline on January 2, 2012 at 11:47 PM
I understand that also but what bothers some people about a particular candidate doesn’t even register on someone else’s radar. I’m sure the candidates expect that but I don’t understand why we do it to each other here. We seem incapable of understanding individual differences and make it far more personal that it needs to be.
Cindy Munford on January 2, 2012 at 11:48 PM
So that’s your definition of vile and vicious?
Cindy Munford on January 2, 2012 at 11:49 PM
springfield
gerrym51 on January 2, 2012 at 11:51 PM
I would argue that Ron Paul’s ads were more negative than the Pro Romney PAC’s, why the bitterness only toward Romney?
Brett McD on January 2, 2012 at 11:51 PM
LOL! It’s funny that it doesn’t seem that way but you’re right.
Cindy Munford on January 2, 2012 at 11:53 PM
Are you asking that of me?
Cindy Munford on January 2, 2012 at 11:53 PM
Pauls “serial Hypocrisy” was the toughest
gerrym51 on January 2, 2012 at 11:54 PM
+1
Midwestprincesse on January 2, 2012 at 11:54 PM
No, Cindy, I am asking it of Gingrich. He is (falsely) portraying that it was only Romney that went after him, when the reality was that everyone did, and Paul probably the hardest.
Brett McD on January 2, 2012 at 11:59 PM
I’m not bitter against Gov. Romney just a few of his more ardent supporters.
Cindy Munford on January 3, 2012 at 12:00 AM
True. Which is why Fox and the rest of the establishment are pushing the weak horse, Santorum.
Still can’t believe that Rupert was so blatent in his shilling of Santorum’s Big Vision.
IMHO Perry/West 2012
tonotisto on January 3, 2012 at 12:01 AM
I guess considering limited funds, he’ll hit back at the front runner. Most Rep. Paul supporters (and apparently Paul, himself) don’t think he has a chance in the end. No reason to hit back at an older gentleman with kind of whacky views. Diminishing returns on the effort.
Cindy Munford on January 3, 2012 at 12:03 AM
Sure you have. I guess when you define down the meaning of words you would be correct. If you kind of sort of stick to reality and the current definitions of those words, not so much.
Facts are strange things in your hands, they are ephemeral items to be manipulated and twisted from what they are into what you imagine them to be. Of course, the reason you have to keep repeating them is because the other strange thing about facts, is that when people know the truth, no amount of twisted and manipulated fact is going to be sway them, but because of your death level grip on the tethers of the Romney train, you keep spewing them out for everyone to pretty much do with them what they deserve, which is ignore and move on to someone with something of value to say.
astonerii on January 3, 2012 at 12:05 AM
Right, like any of you are worried about anyone’s sensibilities. You’re right I am a member of the Don’t Fight Club because I don’t understand the way the minds work around here. I take the *facepalms* and the “idiots” and various other insults seriously. I don’t trash your guy or expect you to support mine but y’all do both. Is this really how you determine what’s best for the country?
Cindy Munford on January 2, 2012 at 11:38 PM
I’m not worried about sensibilities, so you got that right, not after some of the garbage I’ve heard from commenters since 2007. Honestly Cindy, if this is how you feel, why are you here? Ed, Allah, Tina, all of them discuss the pros and cons of the candidates but we can’t?
And while I give opinions and information about candidates, I don’t think what I do is “trashing” them. I don’t spread malicious gossip, or go after their kids, make fun of their religion, or whisper about their marriages or affairs or anything like that (well, except for Cain but that was because I don’t like being lied to or being played for a fool). I talk about their abilities (or lack thereof), the image they project, how they handle themselves – all things which IMHO are perfectly within bounds. Meanwhile, people “trash” Romney day in and day out. You don’t complain about what they say, but when I go after commenters who do it, you do attack me – which is all very confusing. And you seem to think it’s fine to “trash” the “establishment” and whine about how unfair it is that they support Romney but it’s out of bounds to respond to that because only you can make comments which don’t attack Obama???
Oh well, perhaps our hosts could post their stories and just cut off commenting altogether.
Buy Danish on January 3, 2012 at 12:09 AM
I am probably being over sensitive, we all have those days. Could you please fill me in on the trashing that has been done to Gov. Romney that I have not fought against? Because if it is that he is a moderate, center right guy, I have to say I would be hard put to argue the point. I believe he is probably a conservative businessman and hope that can be translated into an advantage as President. I’m not quite sure how dealing with a board of directors, managers and employees equates to dealing with a Congress full of egomaniacs but it should be interesting.
Cindy Munford on January 3, 2012 at 12:21 AM
Newt is to the left of Romney on climate, health care, immigration, GSEs…
He has no room to talk whatsoever.
Ronnie on January 3, 2012 at 12:21 AM
What makes you think he’d be the first to drop out AP? He’s raised $9 million last quarter and he’a still polling incredibly strong in South Carolina and Florida. Plus there are still rumblings he might get support from Herman Cain and Sarah Palin. He’s still got a shot at this thing, doesn’t he? Santorum doesn’t have a hope in hell beyond Iowa.
joshleguern on January 3, 2012 at 12:22 AM
I’m so sick of newt’s crap. There’s hardly a dimes worth of difference policy wise between the two as it is, but if anyone believes gingrich would be able to even claim he was to the right of Romney with a straight face had he been from MA, they are kidding themselves. I’m no Romney fan, but at least he can run a halfway competent presidential campaign.
thirtyandseven on January 3, 2012 at 12:24 AM
So balanced budgets, surpluses and welfare reform don’t count for anything?
Cindy Munford on January 3, 2012 at 12:27 AM
You’re making your own “personal stand” for a guy that stands for nothing other than what makes him money. He’s the furthest left of all the candidates, the least honest/most corrupt, and the one that makes the biggest embarrassment of the entire party – arguably more so than even Ron.
Yeah, you’re a hero.
Ruiner on January 3, 2012 at 12:37 AM
Have you been away?
Cindy Munford on January 3, 2012 at 12:38 AM
Yes, I need to answer to you. Why? What possible difference could what I do with my primary vote make to you? Tell me now what I must do to get in line so I can conform to the wishes of some anonymous jackass on the internet.
Cindy Munford on January 3, 2012 at 12:41 AM
I think newt, being the politician he is, saw good political moves and took them. My point is, had he been MA speaker or governor, I have no doubt his vote record would be indistinguishable from Romney’s, if not worse. The arguably good things Newt points to are more a result of political manuvering than they are an indication of any kind of principled behavior.
thirtyandseven on January 3, 2012 at 12:41 AM
A Newt supporter told me not to bring up things that happened so long ago. Of course he was talking about screwing around on his wives, but I’ve tried to be consistent and apply it to everything he did more than 15 years ago.
Ronnie on January 3, 2012 at 12:46 AM
Newt is the guy who sat with Pelosi extolling the dangers of Global Warming on TV.
Sorry Newt, you fail.
scotash on January 3, 2012 at 12:51 AM
Someone like Newt could never even get elected in MA.. There is no denying that when you consider Gov. Romney’s record that the state of Massachusetts has to figure large in the equation. I think New York and New Jersey are probably easier to govern. I think my only complaint about him is that he has not bothered to court the base. This tactic is not new, it has been done over and over again with Ford, Dole and McCain and all ended in failure. All of these men were worthy, sincere and true public servants, yet they all lost. At this point in our history, conservatism is a marketable asset and is probably the only thing that will put us back on safe fiscal footing so why not embrace it? I am sure he ran those successful private businesses on market based principles, people need to know why that works. I hate Romneycare but I realize that it was what his constituency wanted, it is still a failure.
Cindy Munford on January 3, 2012 at 12:54 AM
i just looked thru some of the Club for Growth white papers on each candidate.
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/whitepapers/
They dislike Paul, Huntsman and like Michelle.
Newt v Romney? they are wary of both. both have had good parts and bad parts to their records.
the one part of Romney I thought was interesting was that he moved MA pensions from defined benefit to defined contribution. That’s pretty rad…and i’m sure that barry will attack him mightily on that.
Reading thru them is pretty tedious…and I’ve felt that Club for Growth seems a little strident in the past. But they’ve seem to have done a thorough job here.
r keller on January 3, 2012 at 12:55 AM
Both things are applicable and should be considered. No one is asking you to support anyone that has done something that you can’t countenance. That is unreasonable.
Cindy Munford on January 3, 2012 at 12:56 AM
Actually I’m considering it all. I would never vote for someone who cheated on his wife…twice.
Ronnie on January 3, 2012 at 12:58 AM
Oddly enough that doesn’t bother me but I understand that it does bother many.
Cindy Munford on January 3, 2012 at 1:03 AM
Comment of the year, so far. ;)
Haha, awesome.
BocaJuniors on January 3, 2012 at 1:11 AM
That’s exactly why he’s winning, and why Obama will be a one-termer.
Go RBNY on January 3, 2012 at 1:12 AM
Yeah, I completely agree that conservatism is a winning message, particularly in this cycle. I just don’t think Gingrich embodies conservatism with any more reliability than Romney – from global warming, to approval of Romney’s HC bill/mandates, to undermining Paul Ryan, I just don’t see him as very much better than Romney at all, and besides that, he comes across as sleazy, and a washington good ol’ boy (yeah, yeah, I know, so does Romney, but Romney is a decent retail politician and would have less trouble overcoming this). Again, I’m no Romney shill (I’m worse – a Ronulan :D ), but it just drives me nuts when Gingrich tries to claim the right, when it’s pretty blatant empty pandering, not to mention harmful to the actual conservative movement as a whole.
thirtyandseven on January 3, 2012 at 1:15 AM
Yeah, that’s not really a big factor for me either, except to the extent that it kind of adds to the sleazy persona, IMO.
thirtyandseven on January 3, 2012 at 1:17 AM
We will have to agree to disagree on Newt. He spouts a lot of ideas but in the end I would trust him to stick with conservative principles and initiatives.
Cindy Munford on January 3, 2012 at 1:22 AM
Fingers crossed.
Cindy Munford on January 3, 2012 at 1:23 AM
My my, look how proud you are of your selective reading. You do realize that other people can still see and read what you chose to ignore, right?
Cindy Munford on January 3, 2012 at 1:25 AM
..and with that one line Cindy, you have highlighted the difference between Newt and Mitt.
Vince on January 3, 2012 at 1:26 AM
Heh, fair enough. Either way, I’ll vote for the nominee (I think), but I may feel the need to chug bleach and shower several times after…
thirtyandseven on January 3, 2012 at 1:27 AM
Yes, because Massachusetts is so similar to most of the rest of the country. As Massachusetts goes, so goes the nation.
Cindy Munford on January 3, 2012 at 1:30 AM
The funny thing is that none of the candidates are nearly as off-putting as some of their supporters. That’s good because it will make it easier to make that final vote. I think you might want to switch the bleach idea out with something equally medicinal but less toxic. Nothings worth that.
Cindy Munford on January 3, 2012 at 1:33 AM
LOL thanks for the heads up on that one ;)
And I definitely agree about the candidate vs supporter appeal. Not entirely sure when it became more important to Defend My Candidate By Any Means Necessary!! than it is to win the election.
thirtyandseven on January 3, 2012 at 1:38 AM
Newt is a cad and could use a good dose of humility but I believe that he is what this country needs right now.
I also believe that Mitt would make a good President but not as good as Newt. Just for that comment, there are a lot of Mitt supporters that would trash me viciously and I agree with you is that there is no justification for doing that.
Support who you want but don’t justify it by trashing others of different mind. I guess I wouldn’t make a good campaign manager?
Vince on January 3, 2012 at 1:39 AM
Based on the National Debt, the Federal government is way left. It’s all a sham; Moderate, conservative, liberal, center-left, center-right has no meaning. Bunch of Washington leeches sucking us dry, enriching themselves in the process. The Feds are occupying my wallet.
racquetballer on January 3, 2012 at 1:42 AM
You might make a good campaign manager, I doubt that the candidates are as foolish as their rabid supporters. To empathize and realize that people have problems with some past deed is a lot more human than suggesting that any vote not for them makes the voter an idiot. I realize that Newts mind and mouth run one hundred miles an hour but that’s a feature not a flaw to me. When it came to legislation he act judiciously and managed to drag Clinton screaming and kicking along. Romney will be fine to but he really needs to differentiate himself from Obama. It’s not that they are truly similar except in the healthcare fiasco but I think he really needs to tout his business experience.
Cindy Munford on January 3, 2012 at 1:50 AM
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