Taylor Marsh throws in the towel on Obama

posted at 3:00 pm on January 1, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

Just how disappointed are progressives about the performance of Barack Obama during his first three years in office? Perhaps no better example can be found than a simply jaw dropping editorial tirade this weekend from Taylor Marsh. (Actually Michelle Marshall) For those not familiar, the author of “The Hillary Effect” used to blog under the moniker “Democrat Taylor Marsh” and was arguably one of Obama’s most hard core supporters once in office, despite having previously been a prominent PUMA supporting Mrs. Clinton during the primary.[* See Update below] A devotee of Gloria Steinam, to say that she embodies the modern progressive movement would be a bit of an understatement to say the least.

All of this is what makes her New Years declaration more shocking. Titled, “The Party’s Over,” she takes not only Barack Obama, but Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Democratic establishment to task while pretty much running up the white flag for liberalism.

As a recovering partisan these days and after watching Pres. Obama’s compromising conservatism, I no longer feel the urgency to support a political party who has threatened dire consequences if I don’t vote for them. Beyond foreign policy, economic, and civil rights issues mentioned above, Pres. Obama has also chosen to short-change women again and again on our freedoms, starting in the health care bill, then by executive order that empowered conservatives of both parties, and finally by making the decision on Plan B that would have come from Mitt Romney, too.

Pres. Obama has helped Democrats deliver a climate that this party has threatened since the ’70s would happen if I didn’t vote for them…

For over 30 years, modern feminists like myself have been hearing that we must support Democrats, because if we don’t our freedoms will be on the line yet again. After supporting Democrats since my one vote for Ronald Reagan in 1980, what has finally happened through Pres. Obama is exactly what I was told this political party would guard against. So now, as the 2012 elections approach, Barack Obama and the Democratic Party are once again relying on the theory that because Republicans are worse women like me can be suckered into falling in line one more time.

I’ll warn you right up front that this is a rather long diatribe, but I assure you that it will be worth your time to click through the link and read the entire piece. Marsh spends a great deal of time describing her disappointment in Obama over his decision to not allow little girls access to Plan B. (And we’re talking about birth control for 12 year olds here.) The litany of complaints doesn’t end there, however. She accuses Obama of being more of a warmonger than George W. Bush, failing to tax the rich sufficiently and committing the sin of noting that entitlement programs need reform without (again) moving to tax the rich to solve it.

The ending is even more poignant, however, and we’ll close this exercise with another quote:

The two political parties have been under siege for some time, because Americans just don’t trust Republicans or Democrats anymore. Barack Obama was the last chance for political parties, specifically the Democratic brand, with George W. Bush having already given rise to rebellion inside the GOP, which is seen best through Ron Paul and the Tea Party. Meanwhile, Congress long ago ceded their importance as an equal branch of government, preferring loyalty oaths to their political party, as well as the boss in the Executive branch, which has become a marketing tool for itself, an American kingship of sorts, with no difference between Republican or Democratic presidents. Once in the White House, the presidents club rules.

So, having finally made it to the recovering partisan shore, though I’m not completely cured, I must say that Pres. Obama’s first term went a long way to liberating me permanently.

In 2012, this liberal’s vote is up for grabs.

Particularly given the history of the author, this piece is nothing short of stunning.

Update: I was contacted by Ms. Marsh, who wished to state that while she was an Obama voter she was not a supporter of the PUMA movement.


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My question would be “why, if the U.S. system is so superior, don’t other affluent and educated nations rise up to demand the same system?”

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 4:56 PM

For starters no other nation has had a system comparable to US health care. That’s why people of other nations come here for treatment. People who don’t know what they’re missing don’t normally rise up to demand something they know nothing about.

Secondly, socialist governments aren’t about to give up power and control … not to mention the money that pours in from taxes supposedly going to health care.

darwin on January 1, 2012 at 5:00 PM

My question would be “why, if the U.S. system is so superior, don’t other affluent and educated nations rise up to demand the same system?”

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 4:56 PM

“Why doesn’t the runner in second place just run ahead to take the lead? Why does he like staying in second place? Duh?”

I told you already, you sound dumber with every comment.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 1, 2012 at 5:00 PM

My question would be “why, if the U.S. system is so superior, don’t other affluent and educated nations rise up to demand the same system?”

urban elitist

You do know that in Canada the fastest growing segment of the healthcare field are fee-for-service clinics, right?

JAM on January 1, 2012 at 5:01 PM

My question would be “why, if the U.S. system is so superior, don’t other affluent and educated nations rise up to demand the same system?”

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 4:56 PM

LOL

You don’t keep up with Canadian health care policy, do you? That’s exactly what’s been happening in Canada. You know, the standard bearer of health care systems for all leftists.

Do a little bit of research and you’ll find that’s exactly what is happening. The UK has begun to hear grumblings the last 10 years or so and have had proposals to change their health care system to resemble ours, only to be shot down. But the numbers are growing.

New Zealand is the same way. More and more people are asking for the private health care system to grow and the health insurance markets there have been steadily growing due to the demand for private health care.

ButterflyDragon on January 1, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Yes, an interesting article, but she still doesn’t get it.

She is looking at process and results as two unrelated issues. She sees Obama’s policies as one side of his problems, and the end results of his policies as an Unrelated Separate set of issues.

Essentially, she’s a leftist who doesn’t like the results of Leftist Policies, but cannot admit that the two go hand in hand and therefore Leftism Doesn’t Work.

George Orwell would be proud of her.

jaydee_007 on January 1, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Europe’s about to collapse from socialists running out of other people’s money and the US is right behind it, yet “liberals” insist that more of the same will save us!!!

darwin on January 1, 2012 at 5:03 PM

What is truly bizarre thinking is that she equates girls with women.

A 12 year old child is a girl, hence children’s rights and protections vs “women’s rights.”

How warped do you have to be? Are parents totally irrelevant in her mind?

so-notbuyingit on January 1, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Europe’s about to collapse from socialists running out of other people’s money and the US is right behind it, yet “liberals” insist that more of the same will save us!!!

darwin on January 1, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Exactly!

I just don’t understand how anyone’s mind can work in that fashion. It truly amazes me. I think I read somewhere that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results each time.

ButterflyDragon on January 1, 2012 at 5:07 PM

For all their tearful caterwauling, these Marxist tools will pull out the vote for him regardless in 2012.

Mr Galt on January 1, 2012 at 5:08 PM

My question would be “why, if the U.S. system is so superior, don’t other affluent and educated nations rise up to demand the same system?”

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 4:56 PM


Why doesn’t the runner in second place just run ahead to take the lead? Why does he like staying in second place? Duh?”

I told you already, you sound dumber with every comment.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 1, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Not an enlightening response. It’s not a competition — Australians (for example) are not in “second place” to the U.S. They prefer a different health care system — an excellent one, at that — but certainly could move towards one more like the ours if they wished. But they’re not. because theirs is vastly less expensive, builds in a great deal of choice, and has equivalent outcomes. French people do not wake up in the morning and think “I wish my health care system was more like the Americans’” In fact, if they weren’t all atheists, they’d thank God that it isn’t.”

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williamg on January 1, 2012 at 5:12 PM

When it comes to my health, and a doctor is poised to do major surgery on me, I’ll take an American-trained doctor any day of the week.

itsspideyman on January 1, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Not an enlightening response. It’s not a competition — Australians (for example) are not in “second place” to the U.S. They prefer a different health care system — an excellent one, at that — but certainly could move towards one more like the ours if they wished. But they’re not. because theirs is vastly less expensive, builds in a great deal of choice, and has equivalent outcomes. French people do not wake up in the morning and think “I wish my health care system was more like the Americans’” In fact, if they weren’t all atheists, they’d thank God that it isn’t.”

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Spoken like a true liberal. Does it really bother you as much as it seems to? I mean, that America might actually be the best at something (a whole lot of things, truthfully)?

gryphon202 on January 1, 2012 at 5:13 PM

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 5:10 PM

ROFLMAO. Just google “australia health care”.

gh on January 1, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Europe’s about to collapse from socialists running out of other people’s money and the US is right behind it, yet “liberals” insist that more of the same will save us!!!

darwin on January 1, 2012 at 5:03 PM

And the reason that they haven’t collapsed already is that the US has been propping them up militarily since WW11 allowing them to have more of other peoples money to spend.

Rio Linda Refugee on January 1, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Suuuuure her vote is up for grabs.

Who’s she going to vote for…Hugo Chavez?

Darin on January 1, 2012 at 5:15 PM

They prefer a different health care system — an excellent one, at that — but certainly could move towards one more like the ours if they wished.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 5:10 PM

And where does the Australian system get its drugs and medical procedures and machines from? Do they invent them in Australia? Does any company do medical research targeted at the Australian health care market? NO. That’s what “drafting off the US” means, you blithering idiot.

Isn’t it time for your nap, or something?

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 1, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 4:44 PM

I’m sorry. We all know that the industry was temporarily nationalized, my point was that is was temporary, where a true Marxist would have made it permanent, while I though you were implying that it was permanent.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Oh, please.

I used the word “temporary” in my post. How does that “imply” permanent?

This is getting a little out of proportion, and I do recognize how much conservatives hate the excellent, inexpensive and popular health care systems in other countries.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 4:40 PM

LOL, you must mean Cuba, right?

Remember Leftist Hero Phillip Agee? He outed more CIA spies than anyone in history, and yet ended up dying in Cuba.

Of perforated ulcers.

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Maybe a little OT here, but here’s something to enlighten Urban Elitist and the other libbies out there:

Bill Whittle on American Exceptionalism

gryphon202 on January 1, 2012 at 5:16 PM

French people do not wake up in the morning and think “I wish my health care system was more like the Americans’” In fact, if they weren’t all atheists, they’d thank God that it isn’t.”

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 5:10 PM

The French preferred starvation to eating potatoes. Why don’t you join them?

LOL that any one would try and cite the French opinion about anything here. ROFLMAO. Dude, are you even American?

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 1, 2012 at 5:17 PM

Dude, are you even American?

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 1, 2012 at 5:17 PM

A better question is, what does he hope to gain by starting a pissing contest in the comment pages of a conservative blog?

gryphon202 on January 1, 2012 at 5:19 PM

A better question is, what does he hope to gain by starting a pissing contest in the comment pages of a conservative blog?

gryphon202 on January 1, 2012 at 5:19 PM

That is better. But he dos seem more earnest than the old Axelrod bots. It still sounds like a script, but a more earnest one.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM

For some more fun, there is an eerily parallel thread on Ann Althouse’s blog today, mainly about Gitmo:

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2012/01/obamas-position-on-guantanamo-detainees.html

Let’s go back to January 27, 2009, one week into the Obama presidency. I’m talking with Slate’s Emily Bazelon, and she’s certain Obama is about to close Guantanamo, and I feel that I can detect in his statements that he’s giving a sop to people like her and he’s not going to do anything.

Now, it’s 3 years later. Obama’s first and probably only presidential term is rolling to a close, and he hasn’t done anything with the detainees.

Be sure to watch her video, and read some of the comments there.

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Keep Shoveling!

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM

And now? Obama is no longer in the car business.

Those car companies aren’t owned by the government now?

If you were smart, you’d know that — while we progressives do love us some socialized medicine
urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 4:34 PM

Up and until It bankrupts the country, Then what are you going to do?

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 4:34 PM

Chip on January 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM

My question would be “why, if the U.S. system is so superior, don’t other affluent and educated nations rise up to demand the same system?”

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 4:56 PM

Canada’s universal health care has all but collapsed, in case you didn’t know. There is now a four-tier system in place:

1 if you are smart and have the money, you go to the states for care
2 if you have the money, you go with the myriad of PRIVATE facilities cropping up all over Canada, and if you have not purchased healthcare privately, it is out of pocket expense
3 if you “know someone with clout” you can jump the year long queues
4 finally, if you are none of the above, you suffer for 6 months min to a year or more (causing even more damage), and literally could die waiting for care in unsanitary hospitals with mediocre doctors.

See StatsCanada for numbers on how many ppl die waiting for care.
See arguments via the courts stating how “inhumane” the gov hc is.

And look up the most recent case in Ottawa, where 100′s – 1000′s? of letters went out to previous patients stating they may now be at risk for HIV/AIDS and Hepatitis due to unsanitary measures…

Good grief.

so-notbuyingit on January 1, 2012 at 5:21 PM

That is better. But he dos seem more earnest than the old Axelrod bots. It still sounds like a script, but a more earnest one.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM

I assume earnest sincerity unless I have a concerete reason to believe otherwise. I have commented on libby blogs on occasion, myself.

gryphon202 on January 1, 2012 at 5:21 PM

French people do not wake up in the morning and think “I wish my health care system was more like the Americans’” In fact, if they weren’t all atheists, they’d thank God that it isn’t.”

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 5:10 PM

The French preferred starvation to eating potatoes. Why don’t you join them?

LOL that any one would try and cite the French opinion about anything here. ROFLMAO. Dude, are you even American?

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 1, 2012 at 5:17 PM

Maybe we should ask urban if Jerry Lewis is a “Genius”. That will give us the answer!

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 5:21 PM

LOL, you must mean Cuba, right?

Remember Leftist Hero Phillip Agee? He outed more CIA spies than anyone in history, and yet ended up dying in Cuba.

Of perforated ulcers.

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Cuba actually has a superior health care system compared to its Caribbean neighbors. Not I’m keen on Cuba.

Also. Not sure how Agee factors into this discussion.

Oh, please.

I used the word “temporary” in my post. How does that “imply” permanent?

Jesus Christ. I admitted that I misread. Are you going to be a grown up or a six-year old?

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Cognitive dissonance, maybe?

LizardLips on January 1, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Cuba actually has a superior health care system compared to its Caribbean neighbors. Not I’m keen on Cuba.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Oh quit it. You loved Michael Moore’s “Sick-O” movie, didn’t you?

gryphon202 on January 1, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Let us also remember that in direct violation of article 15 of the constitiution the Obama administration gave a controlling interest in Chrysler to the United Auto Workers, pushing out investors who had title to assets. This was pure crony capitalism at its worst, an election payoff pattern thread that runs through Solyndra and Lightsquared, and has done nothing to secure the future success of the auto industry.

itsspideyman on January 1, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Simple.

It is way easier to just move to America. Millions have and still do.

Steveangell on January 1, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Right on the kinipopo. Our system should be superior but we’ve gone off the reservation in not upholding the Constitution. I hate saying this but if anyone thinks any country has a better system than ours, hit the door running. If the American experiment fails, heaven help us all.

racquetballer on January 1, 2012 at 5:26 PM

so, liberalism is all about killing babies.

The quotes seem stupid, why bother reading what a totalitarian has to say about the totalitarian SCOAMF. She’s saying that he’s not doing enough because the wrong sort of people still have some money and influence. boo hoo.

joeindc44 on January 1, 2012 at 5:26 PM

This is only good news if the Democrats stay home on Nov. 5th.

princetrumpet on January 1, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Keep Shoveling!

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM

And now? Obama is no longer in the car business.

Those car companies aren’t owned by the government now?

Chip on January 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM

GM is still partly owned by the US Government. Last time I checked (summer of 2011) they still owned 27% of it. The Canadian Government also owns 10% and the Ontario Government 3%.

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 5:27 PM

I just don’t understand how anyone’s mind can work in that fashion. It truly amazes me. I think I read somewhere that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results each time.

ButterflyDragon on January 1, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Modern Liberals do not really care about results. Just look at what they have done to, say, education in America. It’s a travesty.

Judging by their actions they truly care about one thing and one thing only: Making themselves feel better about themselves. Morally “one-upping” the “bad guys.” Self-congratulation. Read all about it in this classic book.

Once you understand this then you will understand Modern Liberalism.

visions on January 1, 2012 at 5:29 PM

I read the three highlighted lines in that first quoted section several times, and I couldn’t figure what was being said there. So, she’s not much of a writer is she?

The question is, why do leftists think they should be running anything, let alone the US and state governments? It’s a remarkable phenomenon these days. They have more in common with Monty Python than the sober and sage types we expect to run national affairs while the rest of us go about our business. Surely they realize themselves that they’re nuts. Two months of observing their “Occupy” representatives made that abundantly clear: They’re complete nutters. And they’re upset when they manage to squirrel someone into the Oval Office when he’s not quite as bad a nutter in the spotlight as they are in the newsroom or the faculty lounge?

Leftists belong in the scruffy tradition of carrying signs and yelling obscenities and holding meetings about having more meetings and all that sort of thing–community organizing, etc. They shouldn’t actually be running the government. That’s insanity. So once the socialist president and some of his fellow-travellers in the Senate are expelled, the leftist protesters can return to the happiness they find in yelling and agitating. They’ll no longer have to worry about the lurid embarrassments that happen when their representatives demonstrate that they are cowards and appeasers and golfers and vacationers and lack the most basic common sense, and any aptitude for accounting.

In summary: To make leftists happy, remove leftist politicians. They need a real adversary to function properly, as in the age of Reagan.

Allendundit on January 1, 2012 at 5:33 PM

yes yes, smug moral vanity and posturing. But also the idea that you can be just as prosperous as a society by punishing the rich (well, the wrong kind of rich people, the non-politically connected rich) as you can be by rewarding free enterprise.

joeindc44 on January 1, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Cuba actually has a superior health care system compared to its Caribbean neighbors. Not I’m keen on Cuba.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Oh quit it. You loved Michael Moore’s “Sick-O” movie, didn’t you?

gryphon202 on January 1, 2012 at 5:25 PM

I didn’t say it was better than ours. And I don’t like fascists — as you can see, I have strong opinions and wouldn’t care to be arrested for expressing them. And I didn’t even bring Cuba into this discussion.

But, you are significantly better off being a sick Cuban than a sick Jamaican.

Simple.

It is way easier to just move to America. Millions have and still do.

Steveangell on January 1, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Right on the kinipopo. Our system should be superior but we’ve gone off the reservation in not upholding the Constitution. I hate saying this but if anyone thinks any country has a better system than ours, hit the door running. If the American experiment fails, heaven help us all.

racquetballer on January 1, 2012 at 5:26 PM

But these immigrants aren’t coming from Germany (I’m sure some are, but…) Saying that our system is better than Somalia, el Salvador pakistan is surely damming with faint praise.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Huge? Do you remember Ohio?
ddrintn on January 1, 2012 at 4:50 PM

I remember he beat Kerry in Ohio by over 100,000 votes.

P.S. You know who did actually give us “amnesty”? Ronald Reagan.

Buy Danish on January 1, 2012 at 5:35 PM

GM is still partly owned by the US Government. Last time I checked (summer of 2011) they still owned 27% of it. The Canadian Government also owns 10% and the Ontario Government 3%.

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Fair enough. But Obama is de-accessioning as fast as he can. And, please trust me on this because I’m probably the only inside-the-beltway acknowledge liberal you’ve communicated with this (young) year: we like the UAW, we seriously though letting the domestic auto industry collapse would be bad, but we do not want to own GM. I promise.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 5:37 PM

P.S. You know who did actually give us “amnesty”? Ronald Reagan.

Buy Danish on January 1, 2012 at 5:35 PM

With a Democrat Congress that didn’t uphold it’s end of the deal. Amnesty was not RR’s idea by any account.

Rio Linda Refugee on January 1, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Excellent find Jazz!

People on the right underestimate just how dispirited the left is with the loser in office. They complain that he hasn’t done enough for them when in fact he hasn’t done a thing for anyone. The man is completely ineffectual.

PBHO ran as a bipartisan centrist who would end our divides. That never endeared him with the left, but they knew he didn’t mean it so enthusiastically backed them. The indies expected him to follow through. The combination of his screw ups, inability to appease even his left and his stridency and blatant scorched earth politics leave him dead in the water.

That doesn’t mean that it will be a cake walk to boot out even this incumbent. People don’t like to admit they were wrong. However, by nominating Romney we will have an opponent who will keep the bright light on PBHO and not allow the conversation to be side tracked by his nuttiness. That is the key to a landslide victory.

MJBrutus on January 1, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Cuba actually has a superior health care system compared to its Caribbean neighbors. Not I’m keen on Cuba.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 5:23 PM

We have the stupidest comment of 2012 already.

angryed on January 1, 2012 at 5:39 PM

OSHA

EPA

Institutionalized Affirmative Action

Just three of many lasting hallmarks of the Nixon administration.
gryphon202 on January 1, 2012 at 3:30 PM
Yep hafta agree, three of the most notable accomplishments of the democrat controlled congress who, with the support of the news media and pubic opinion, forced Nixon to sign, thus giving you the opportunity, fifty years later, to rewrite history.

How old are you? I was there, lived through it. Saw it with my own eyes.

Skandia Recluse on January 1, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Perhaps you need to read the 1968 Republican Platform to realize he didn’t need to forced to sign those.

RickB on January 1, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Cuba actually has a superior health care system compared to its Caribbean neighbors. Not I’m keen on Cuba.

Also. Not sure how Agee factors into this discussion.

Oh, please.

I used the word “temporary” in my post. How does that “imply” permanent?

Jesus Christ. I admitted that I misread. Are you going to be a grown up or a six-year old?

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Some credible cites about Cuba having superior medical facilities than its Caribbean neighbors would help your argument. And please don’t cite Michael Moore. Remember, Cuba has to make do with much less, because of the US trade embargo. By the way, O’bama said this just 3 months ago:

With little fanfare, President Obama has renewed his authority under the 1917 Trading with the Enemy Act to extend the U.S. trade embargo on Cuba, according to a statement from the White House press office. “I hereby determine that the continuation for 1 year of the exercise of those authorities with respect to Cuba is in the national interest of the United States,” Obama declared in a memorandum to the Secretary of State and the Secretary of the Treasury.

I brought up Agee because if he had been living in the US and had those perforated ulcers, the chances are much better that he would have survived. I myself suffered from the same affliction, so know what I’m talking about. I’m alive today because I was in an American hospital.

Getting back to other Caribbean nations’ health care, Aruba, for instance, has a world class hospital, and the French islands like Martinique likewise have medical facilities on a par with France’s.

As for the end of your post, following Alinsky again?

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 5:42 PM

I wouldn’t get all exercised over the words of the fickle Taylor Marsh. If you follow her as I have over a long period of time, you will see how every once in awhile she likes to shake things up in order to get publicity. She has a new e-book out on Hillary, so this current drama is clearly aligned with pushing that project. And, she’s trying to get into the D.C. “in” crowd and cleaning up her act. Take note, if you will, of her new and more conservative publicity pic. Yep, much ado about nothing, unless you’re looking to hammer the Dems with the stupid moves of pundits aligned with either party who are looking for love and adoration and notoriety.

~ Halli Casser-Jayne on Facebook

The CJ Political Report on January 1, 2012 at 5:46 PM

Exactly!

I just don’t understand how anyone’s mind can work in that fashion. It truly amazes me. I think I read somewhere that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results each time.

ButterflyDragon on January 1, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Apparently you have never played angry birds

speekr on January 1, 2012 at 5:47 PM

She’ll likely vote for Romney, watch.

Romney is going to rake in a lot of Democrats, particularly if he succeeds and runs a second term. He will collect Democrats like Reagan did. There were a lot of Reagan Democrats, and there will be a lot of Romney Democrats.

crosspatch on January 1, 2012 at 3:14 PM

What are you smoking? “Reagan Democrats” were conservative union members and other working class voters who were sick of the urbanite hippies that comprised the New Democrats. They were NOT disaffected liberals.

Sekhmet on January 1, 2012 at 5:51 PM

This is a perfect example of how useless party purists are. Here we have the most leftist president in our country’s history, a man who has personally pushed our country towards socialism, and yet all she has is complaints. I mean, the push Socialized Medicine has been a generational battle for the left, but it happened under Obama — not good enough for Ms Hissy-Fit.

Up to now, one of the advantages the left has had over the right has been that there fewer useless purists on the left. We’ll see if that changes.

stefanite on January 1, 2012 at 5:52 PM

ButterflyDragon on January 1, 2012 at 5:07 PM

I enjoy your posts, but I hate the way that Einstein quote is abused. It’s not your fault, because it so commonly cited the way you did. Einstein said that as a criticism of quantum mechanics where doing the same thing does indeed produce different results. In short, he was wrong and the quote was originally made famous for that very reason.

OK, that’s my little pet peeve.

MJBrutus on January 1, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Del Dolemonte

Unless I missed it, it appears urban elitist has gone through quite a few posts without answering your question about the dedication at the front of Alinsky’s book.

I feel like a kid at the back of the room waving my hand in the air shouting, “I know! I know!”

And he isn’t Karl Marx, as someone posted. Marx was too kind in his denunciation of capitalism. More akin to Trotsky or maybe Idi Amin.

Horace on January 1, 2012 at 5:54 PM

But, you are significantly better off being a sick Cuban than a sick Jamaican.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Are you basing this claim on personal experiences in both countries?

Actually, the overall death rate in Cuba is much higher than that in Jamaica.

http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=jm&v=26

http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?v=26&c=cu&l=en

Granted, Jamaica’s infant mortality rate is higher. But remember, Jamaica itself was basically ruined by a Democrat Socialist, name of Michael Manley.

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 5:56 PM

With a Democrat Congress that didn’t uphold it’s end of the deal. Amnesty was not RR’s idea by any account.
Rio Linda Refugee on January 1, 2012 at 5:38 PM

My point is that ddrtin is using revisionist history and pretending the Tea Party was born out of “amnesty” which never occurred under Bush. I’m fully aware of what happened under Reagan (and previously -thanks to Ted Kennedy who really screwed us by changing rules which had given priority to people who actually shared our Western culture).

Cuba actually has a superior health care system compared to its Caribbean neighbors. Not I’m keen on Cuba.
urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Maybe we should start a fund to provide Urban Elitist with an inner tube so he can take a trip to Cuba and experience it’s fabulous healthcare (and food rationing!) first hand!

Buy Danish on January 1, 2012 at 5:56 PM

Amazingly, she doesn’t mention the one thing that would annoy me, if I were a Democrat, her political party nominated a complete incompetent and blew the whole first black president thing. Had Obama been the first black in baseball, instead of Jackie Robinson, they’d still be fighting to get blacks in baseball. Of course, in those days, competence was a big deal, but you get my drift.

I’m sure the strategy, of Obama and company, is to put the fear of God, into this liberal, and every other one of the voting populace, that, if the Republicans get in, you’re doomed. Actually, their hope should be Romney or Obama because if Newt gets in, he will dismantle Obamacare and the liberal agenda that was snuck in. I don’t trust Romney to dismantle Obamacare, or anything else that was slipped in.

bflat879 on January 1, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Del Dolemonte

Unless I missed it, it appears urban elitist has gone through quite a few posts without answering your question about the dedication at the front of Alinsky’s book.

Horace on January 1, 2012 at 5:54 PM

No, you didn’t miss it. When you ask a Leftist a question they can’t credibly answer, they simply pretend you never asked that question in the first place.

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 5:58 PM

I also hear that the political prisons in Cuba are also tops in the Caribbean.

joeindc44 on January 1, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Huh.
Her ending pretty much explains exactly where I’m at. Nice to have company, even a Democrat.

Watched Mr. Smith goes to Washington this morning.

I feel like the guy in Network.

I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore.

Nice to see it’s not just Republicans.

It is, and has been, high time for change, and none of that crap the President was peddling when he was running for office.

It is time for this country to not only stop eating their own, but their neighbor’s own as well. We have a two party system so folks can have different opinions, for the good of all. NO one is right all of the time, just as NO one is wrong all of the time. The problem we have today is the major parties take us all for granted, play us to get elected, then sell us out for their own benefit under the guise of doing “what’s best for us.” They are all self-serving liars.

My priorities:
1. Fire his a##

2. Fire the rest of the SOB’s.

Tenwheeler on January 1, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Particularly given the history of the author, this piece is nothing short of stunning.

Hardly…

You do realize that stupid liberal thinks Obama is not far LEFT enough for her. Right?

Hard to imagine, I know. But I have heard her type of rant before. From liberals that think Obama is too far to the right…lol

rightConcept on January 1, 2012 at 6:08 PM

then by executive order that empowered conservatives of both parties

Both parties? Really? Taylor’s definition of conservativism is broader than urban elitist’s.

racquetballer on January 1, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Oh yeah, and Cuba’s secret police are by far the best in the hemisphere, leaving Venezuela in the dust.

joeindc44 on January 1, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Angryed@5:39
+1000

angrymike on January 1, 2012 at 6:11 PM

then by executive order that empowered conservatives of both parties

Both parties? Really? Taylor’s definition of conservativism is broader than urban elitist’s.

she’s complaining about baby killing, abortion = liberalism to her, conservatives are pro-life.

shrewy, dessicated, harpy feminists have one track minds

joeindc44 on January 1, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Amazingly, she doesn’t mention the one thing that would annoy me, if I were a Democrat, her political party nominated a complete incompetent and blew the whole first black president thing. Had Obama been the first black in baseball, instead of Jackie Robinson, they’d still be fighting to get blacks in baseball. Of course, in those days, competence was a big deal, but you get my drift.

bflat879 on January 1, 2012 at 5:57 PM

I thought Bill Clinton was the First Black President?

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 6:13 PM

I no longer feel the urgency to support a political party who has threatened dire consequences if I don’t vote for them.

Some of us on the opposite side of the political aisle have come to feel exactly the same way.

Aitch748 on January 1, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Some of us on the opposite side of the political aisle have come to feel exactly the same way.
Aitch748 on January 1, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Terrific! Maybe the two of you can get together for coffee at a No Labels meeting./

Buy Danish on January 1, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Another liberated, post-minstrel, elderly clown that preached having abortions equal women’s rights.

Major fail.

Hening on January 1, 2012 at 6:21 PM

our system is far less government-mandated than systems embraced by “right-wing” leaders in Canada, Britain, France, or Germany. It is, by comparison, a “right-wing” system.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 4:27 PM

No matter what those political positions may be called in The Euro-zone, plus Canada, they are not right wing in the US, which actually is supposed to be living under a system that limits government intrusion into the every day lives of the citizens.

PS, if you know any Canadians, ask them how many of their friends, neighbors & family members come south for medical treatment that is limited, or extremely slow to get, in Canada.

Siddhartha Vicious on January 1, 2012 at 6:22 PM

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 5:10 PM

to the question of why out countries aren’t rising up to have our sort of system….well, there are many answers.

But one always escapes our liberal friends who claim to be broad minded ‘mult-culturalists’…or citizens of the world…or something like that. There multiculturalism stops dead in its tracks when talking about national policy for our country

European countries are all derived from Kingdoms (like the Queen of England). And this extends even to the Commonwealth…like Canada..which still recognizes the Queen of England.

The peasants who didn’t like Kingdoms fled…to the US.

So the cultures of many countries are very homogeneous. (if you want to look at the UK, watch ‘question time’ on cspan a couple of times…and count the number of non-whites)

So let all countries choose their h/c…including the US. And don’t let leftists impose their ‘vision’ by hook or crook…and that’s exactly what the obama/pelosi/reid machine did. Not a proud moment in US history

r keller on January 1, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Buy Danish on January 1, 2012 at 4:23 PM

I think you are right for the most part but I do think TARP (whether you believe it was necessary or not) got the unrest started and Porkulous and Obamacare pushed everyone over the edge.

Cindy Munford on January 1, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Does that mean she will be voting for Johnson? Or Ron Paul?

nicknack60 on January 1, 2012 at 6:24 PM

I really did try to read the article all the way through. But there was so much drivel and utter nonsense in it I only made it through about the first third.

JimC on January 1, 2012 at 6:28 PM

I thought Bill Clinton was the First Black President?

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Al Gore tried speaking Black. If that doesn’t turn you off as an African-American or as an American, then you truly are blinded. How condescending can you be?

racquetballer on January 1, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Del Dolemonte

Unless I missed it, it appears urban elitist has gone through quite a few posts without answering your question about the dedication at the front of Alinsky’s book.

I feel like a kid at the back of the room waving my hand in the air shouting, “I know! I know!”

And he isn’t Karl Marx, as someone posted. Marx was too kind in his denunciation of capitalism. More akin to Trotsky or maybe Idi Amin.

Horace on January 1, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Actually, I don’t know and don’t care who the book was dedicated to. But, fell free to enlighten me and then leap to amazing conclusions based on the fact that it’s Chairman Mao or whoever.

And, just to keep things above the level of moronic, avoid the Idi Amin references.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Everyone loved Bush’s policies. That’s why he was rocking that fantastic 22% approval rating as he left office.

ButterflyDragon on January 1, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Oddly, I don’t remember signs about the Patriot Act, or pretty much anything else but reducing the tax Burden (you know Taxed Enough Already) to both increase economic growth and reduce government spending, as well as lot of signs & speeches regarding Obamacare.

Siddhartha Vicious on January 1, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Mr Galt on January 1, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Exactly. Never listen to a leftist who claim s/he’s “giving up” on the current crop of socialist demonRats. Marxism is the leftist’s religion.

MisterElephant on January 1, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Oh, please. This is straight from the Obama campaign. All along the trail we’ll be hearing him say, “I’ve made a lot of folks on my side of the aisle mad at me because I’ve tried to compromise with Congress, but they just wouldn’t work with me.”

This is an orchestrated Obama campaign brochure designed to push his “I’m not of Washington” narrative. A pity so many here are falling for it. I suppose that means large numbers of voters will fall for it, too. “OOh, liberals are mad at Obama. He must be a centrist. I’m gonna vote for him!”

I wonder how much the Obama campaign is paying her.

Rational Thought on January 1, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Everyone loved Bush’s policies. That’s why he was rocking that fantastic 22% approval rating as he left office.

ButterflyDragon on January 1, 2012 at 4:32 PM

It must be a sign of smartness to extrapolate from one data point. And by smartness, I mean idiotic hate filled liberal pathological wishcasting.

joeindc44 on January 1, 2012 at 6:33 PM

I haven’t read through all the comments, but what this woman says, is what I have heard from *former* liberals for the last year, and nine times out of ten, they say they’de vote for Mitt Romney- all anyone seems to care about is the economy.

BettyRuth on January 1, 2012 at 6:33 PM

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ur system is far less government-mandated than systems embraced by “right-wing” leaders in Canada, Britain, France, or Germany. It is, by comparison, a “right-wing” system.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 4:27 PM

No matter what those political positions may be called in The Euro-zone, plus Canada, they are not right wing in the US, which actually is supposed to be living under a system that limits government intrusion into the every day lives of the citizens.

PS, if you know any Canadians, ask them how many of their friends, neighbors & family members come south for medical treatment that is limited, or extremely slow to get, in Canada.

Siddhartha Vicious on January 1, 2012 at 6:22 PM

I’m not saying Canada is the dream system. The control health care costs by rationing non-emergency care (but do rather well if you’re in a car wreck, for example) and so people have to wait six months for hip replacement surgery. On the other hand, they save tens of thousands of dollars over a lifetime on healthcare costs. If you were 22, and you knew that in 45 years, you’d need a hip replacement, and you’d have to wait a while to get it, but you’d also save $200 thousand what would you do?

Germany, Australian and France all have mixed public/private systems in which everyone is guaranteed basic health care, but you can buy private insurance and get American-style care.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 6:36 PM

When she endorses Romney, call me.

flataffect on January 1, 2012 at 6:41 PM

Del Dolemonte

Unless I missed it, it appears urban elitist has gone through quite a few posts without answering your question about the dedication at the front of Alinsky’s book.

I feel like a kid at the back of the room waving my hand in the air shouting, “I know! I know!”

And he isn’t Karl Marx, as someone posted. Marx was too kind in his denunciation of capitalism. More akin to Trotsky or maybe Idi Amin.

Horace on January 1, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Actually, I don’t know and don’t care who the book was dedicated to. But, fell free to enlighten me and then leap to amazing conclusions based on the fact that it’s Chairman Mao or whoever.

And, just to keep things above the level of moronic, avoid the Idi Amin references.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Here is the original preface by Alinsky.

Funny how the current pressings of the book no longer have it.

Wonder why?

Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 6:42 PM

ButterflyDragon on January 1, 2012 at 4:32 PM

I may not have liked all of W’s policies but he sure is a heck of a wonderful person which is more than I can say about The Won.

Cindy Munford on January 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM

If you don’t have enough people aspiring to become doctors and nurses, then what does it all matter? Government should stay out of the health care business.

racquetballer on January 1, 2012 at 6:48 PM

PS, if you know any Canadians, ask them how many of their friends, neighbors & family members come south for medical treatment that is limited, or extremely slow to get, in Canada.

Siddhartha Vicious on January 1, 2012 at 6:22 PM

For an even more accurate view ask the administrators of the hospitals in Michigan that are near the crossing points with Ontario.

Then ask ‘can’ where they airlifted his relative to during a heart attack.

Yoop on January 1, 2012 at 6:48 PM

Here is the original preface by Alinsky.

Funny how the current pressings of the book no longer have it.

Wonder why?

Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Interesting. But irrelevant.

The idea that — because I support a president who may or may not have embraced the perfectly acceptable tactics and largely admirable goals of someone who wrote a book and impishly dedicated it to the most famous person to stand up to the status quo — I’m a crypto-Satanist is absurd.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Huge? Do you remember Ohio?
ddrintn on January 1, 2012 at 4:50 PM

I remember he beat Kerry in Ohio by over 100,000 votes.

Wow. About a fifth of the population of Cincinnati. Some “huge majority”. Bush got a shade over 50% of the vote. He barely eked out a win.

P.S. You know who did actually give us “amnesty”? Ronald Reagan.

Buy Danish on January 1, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Yeah. And I’d bet a Zombie Reagan would like a mulligan on that one.

ddrintn on January 1, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Siddhartha Vicious on January 1, 2012 at 6:22 PM

I’m not saying Canada is the dream system. The control health care costs by rationing non-emergency care (but do rather well if you’re in a car wreck, for example) and so people have to wait six months for hip replacement surgery. On the other hand, they save tens of thousands of dollars over a lifetime on healthcare costs. If you were 22, and you knew that in 45 years, you’d need a hip replacement, and you’d have to wait a while to get it, but you’d also save $200 thousand what would you do?

Germany, Australian and France all have mixed public/private systems in which everyone is guaranteed basic health care, but you can buy private insurance and get American-style care.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 6:36 PM

$200,000 for hip replacement? Where did that figure come from?

Here in the US the hip replacement surgery itself is about $6,000. Add another $15 grand for the hospital costs.

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 6:54 PM

The idea that — because I support a president who may or may not have embraced the perfectly acceptable tactics and largely admirable goals of someone who wrote a book and impishly dedicated it to the most famous person to stand up to the status quo — I’m a crypto-Satanist is absurd.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Alinsky was a amoral nihilist who craved power and showed people what is possible when one dispenses with the constraints of civilized society – actually when one intentionally moves to destroy the constraints of civilized society.

You are just an idiot, not even very useful.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 1, 2012 at 6:55 PM

it is always amusing to see leftists still dis W.

on the most admired list…Obama 1…W…2…Bill Clinton 3

i’m not recommending this stupid brand awareness poll, but still W has positive top of mind awareness

r keller on January 1, 2012 at 6:56 PM

“Obama has also chosen to short-change women again and again on our freedoms…”

I guess I just don’t understand the liberal mind…

… What freedoms have women been short-changed on again?

Seven Percent Solution on January 1, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Still not permitted to abort/murder their child after it’s born?

ShainS on January 1, 2012 at 7:01 PM

My point is that ddrtin is using revisionist history and pretending the Tea Party was born out of “amnesty” which never occurred under Bush.

Buy Danish on January 1, 2012 at 5:56 PM

Uh, nothing “revisionist” about it. I didn’t say it was “born out of amnesty”. I said that was one of the factors during the Bush administration that stirred resistance to government overreach. This explains it pretty well.

You’re batting about .027, as usual.

ddrintn on January 1, 2012 at 7:01 PM

However, by nominating Romney we will have an opponent who will keep the bright light on PBHO be laughed at any time he tries to campaign against Obamacare.

MJBrutus on January 1, 2012 at 5:39 PM

I’m noy anti-Romney, particularly, but his silly explanation that Romneycare is any different that Obamacare, and therefore he should be elected just strikes me as silly.

Of course, not a single on of the current crop is any better, each has his/her own major weaknesses.

Siddhartha Vicious on January 1, 2012 at 7:02 PM

$200,000 for hip replacement? Where did that figure come from?

Here in the US the hip replacement surgery itself is about $6,000. Add another $15 grand for the hospital costs.

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 6:54 PM

That was, all snark aside, a a rough estimate based on the fact that Canadian health care is half as expensive as ours, and that over 40 years you might save $5 thousand a year — $200K — in health insurance costs but trade off rapid access to non-critical care. Canadians — whatever you think of their system – have made a trade-off and it’s one that a majority of them appear to support, since a conservative Canadian government ddoesn’t dare to go near their care. The point is, if its as bad as right-wing legend has it , why do Canadians not reject their system for ours?

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 7:03 PM

On the other hand, they save tens of thousands of dollars over a lifetime on healthcare costs. If you were 22, and you knew that in 45 years, you’d need a hip replacement, and you’d have to wait a while to get it, but you’d also save $200 thousand what would you do?

Germany, Australian and France all have mixed public/private systems in which everyone is guaranteed basic health care, but you can buy private insurance and get American-style care.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 6:36 PM

Can you unpack this a little by telling us how ‘waiting’ six months saves money?

Also, i’m happy to hear that you are not of the Hillary Clinton band of leftists who would have outlawed cash transactions for any h/c not in Her Programs (i.e. more to the left of Germany)

r keller on January 1, 2012 at 7:03 PM

This is getting a little out of proportion, and I do recognize how much conservatives hate the excellent, inexpensive and popular health care systems in other countries.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Good heavens, I hope that alternate reality of yours is comfortable. Perhaps you can explain why so many people who live in those other countries with excellent, inexpensive and popular healthcare systems come HERE to get treatment and operations? Why on earth would they pay money to travel here and pay more money for their treatment/operations while here, hmmm?

Midas on January 1, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Interesting. But irrelevant.

LOL, which is why the publishers took it out.

The idea that — because I support a president who may or may not have embraced the perfectly acceptable tactics and largely admirable goals of someone who wrote a book and impishly dedicated it to the most famous person to stand up to the status quo — I’m a crypto-Satanist is absurd.

urban elitist on January 1, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Did anyone here accuse you of being a crypto-Satanist? No. We accused you of using Alinskyesque Tactics, because us Hot Gassers who have been here for more than a few years have seen them come and go repeatedly.

BTW, our current Democrat Secretary of State did her Senior Thesis at Wellesley about Saul Alinsky. It was embargoed for the entire 8 years her husband was in power, including the last couple of years in his Presidency, while he was playing with cigars, engaging in workplace adultery with a workplace subordinate, and letting bin Laden plan the 9/11 attacks.

Del Dolemonte on January 1, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Good Lord, I would so love to have a President that doesn’t set my teeth on edge everytime he opens his mouth, and the only option we have at this point is Romney. I think he’ll do a great job- he might actually win some of you over!

BettyRuth on January 1, 2012 at 7:06 PM

I can’t see how this woman would not go to the poll, hold her nose, and vote for Obama over “generic Republican”.

Her throwing in the towel is grand gesture but totally not real.

unclesmrgol on January 1, 2012 at 7:11 PM

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