Obama camp pretty darned fake-angry at Romney’s son for mentioning birth certificate

posted at 9:05 pm on December 30, 2011 by Allahpundit

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At an event in New Hampshire today, Romney’s adult son Matt Romney responded to a question regarding the potential release of his father’s tax returns with a joke alluding to doubts about Mr. Obama’s place of birth: “I heard someone suggest the other day that as soon as Obama releases his grades and birth certificate and sort of a long list of things, then maybe he’d do it,” he said…

In an email to supporters today about the joke, Obama for America campaign manager Jim Messina wrote, “This is how the Romney campaign thinks it’s going to win the Republican primary: by pandering to the dead-ender fringe of extremists who still question where the president was born.”

While asking for a donation, Messina said, “we can drive up the cost of this kind of politics… when they do this, you’ve got to do something about it.”

The email was sent under the subject line, “Donald Trump or Mitt Romney?” in reference to Trump’s persistent questions about Mr. Obama’s origins, which ultimately prompted the president to release his long-form birth certificate from Hawaii.

Romney’s son, reverting to strict-message-discipline mode, has already apologized on Twitter. Six months of this awaits next year, guys. Six months of Team O arguing that Romney’s simultaneously (a) an unpredictable opportunist with no principled core and (b) a wild-eyed ideologue ready to push the same radical right-wing agenda on America that he pushed on Massachusetts when he … signed a health-care mandate into law. If you thought the daily ins-and-outs of the Obama/McCain race were dreary, wait until we start covering Obama/Romney. Second look at turning HA into a gossip site?

I’m not familiar with this pollster but they’ve got Romney opening up a seven-point lead in Iowa over Santorum and a 10-point lead over Paul. Nate Silver’s statistical model now gives him a 63 percent chance of winning the state; Paul comes second at 20 percent. Shhhhhhh. It’ll all be over soon.

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Wow, I reeallly like Newt’s response on the birth-certificate:

Gingrich: Every Reason to Believe Obama Born in U.S.

by Joy Lin | December 29, 2011

Storm Lake, Iowa — Newt Gingrich routinely fields questions during his campaign stops and during the event showcasing Art Laffer’s endorsement, a woman who had been sititing on stage behind him asked Gingrich for clarification about President Obama’s country of birth.

“Why doesn’t Barack Obama not have to exactly prove his citizenship as he’s going to all of these other countries besides leading our country.” She added, “Arizona, if I have my facts correct, they are refusing to put his name on the ballot because he hasn’t proven that he is a citizen. Is that true?”

“No,” Gingrich said. He joked, “I thought you were going to ask me whether Donald Trump had citizenship,” referring to the attention the reality television star stirred up when he raised questions about President Obama’s birthplace, prompting the White House to release his long-form birth certificate.

“All I can report is the state of Hawaii has certified that he was born there,” Gingrich continued.

Gesturing to his wife beside him, he said, “We both were with a taxi driver one day who showed us the hospital. There is every reason to believe he is a citizen of the United States. The fact that he’s already a terrible president, we don’t have to go beyond that and try to find something beyond that.”

Some members of the audience began to clap.

“In all fairness, this is one of those issues where it’s a fact: he is the president of the United States. Therefore, at a factual level, citizenship is a moot issue. He is the president. He’s not going to lose the presidency over that. He will lose the presidency because all of us will vote him out, which is the American way of doing it.”

Read more: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/12/29/gingrich-every-reason-believe-obama-born-us#ixzz1i7ey1hUd

cane_loader on December 31, 2011 at 9:29 AM

Arguments over his steadiness aside, wouldn’t it be invigorating to have a president as articulate as Newt?

cane_loader on December 31, 2011 at 9:31 AM

He’s not saying he’s the fourth best.

He’s saying he’s the 4th best in terms of getting things DONE.

And he has. Just negative things. That’s not an 0bamateurism.

cane_loader on December 31, 2011 at 9:37 AM

oops, wrong thread !!!

cane_loader on December 31, 2011 at 9:38 AM

ITguy,
I must say that I found your comments VERY eye-opening!

BPinNC on December 31, 2011 at 9:57 AM

If you look at their policies, Romney and Obama are basically the same people..

Yeah, lets test your diatribe…..

both are big supporters of Wall Street Fat Cats,

Link for evidence.

both are total supporters of more and more of the same corrupting tax code,

The monumental task of changing the tax code with a divided congress is a waste of time when other methods of job creation are more achievable.

both are willing to say anything to try to deceive the American people

Yeah? What politician doesn’t do that?

both have records of increasing government involvement in people’s personal lives

Yeah? Which candidate wont do that?

both are from Harvard

So effing what? You sound jealous.

both refuse to release records that may show some things they want to cover up

Bwahahahaha! Detail to us your entire life because we suspect you to be a child molester.

Yeah, so you Romney supporters, tell us why trying to get Romney in the White House will make any difference

georgealbert on December 31, 2011 at 8:46 AM

Because when rational, balanced people examine their records, it is 100% clear that Romney isn’t Obama. And even though he isn’t a solid conservative, he will sign conservative legislation, including the repeal of Obamacare, and Obama will sign very few pieces of conservative legislation.

csdeven on December 31, 2011 at 10:24 AM

And at the very least he will give Romney many many thanks for Romneycare, the father of Obamacare and tout their similarities. Why change?

Cindy Munford on December 31, 2011 at 9:06 AM

You’re scared of Obama. I guarantee that the Romney camp already has their strategy for dealing with Romneycare vs Obamacare. First, Obama never consulted Romney. Two, Obamacare is unconstitutional. Three, the people of MA wanted Masscare (still do) and the people of America did not want Obamacare (still don’t). Forth, the manner in which Obamacare was passed was the most despicable display of government run amok in our lifetime.

So, as you can see, when one isn’t panicked, one can rationally defend against the lies Obama will be telling because he cannot run on his record.

csdeven on December 31, 2011 at 10:30 AM

Gary Johnson will veto all this unconstitutional spending…so if it’s Romney vs. Obama, Johnson has my vote and volunteerism.

DRayRaven on December 31, 2011 at 9:22 AM

Good gravy, you are completely misguided! Lets accept your premise that the system is corrupt. With all the corrupt reps and dems in Washington, exactly how many vetoes will that stupid @ss Gary Johnson get over ridden? All of them! He will be as ineffective as Carter and it will forever ruin the possibility of electing the type of POTUS you are advocating for.

Winning the skirmish and losing the world is never a viable strategy.

csdeven on December 31, 2011 at 10:36 AM

Well, I honestly can’t remember what the fake birth cert that I saw said for Barry’s dad, but if it is other than US Citizen, then I still believe that the founders intended for the description in the Law of Nations to apply and he is not a NBC. A citizen yes, NBC nope. But that is only if you believe in hundreds of years of precedents until the seas lowered and everything changed to fit the one.

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

rgranger on December 31, 2011 at 10:52 AM

csdeven on December 31, 2011 at 10:30 AM

Still ignoring you, save your fingers for someone else.

Cindy Munford on December 31, 2011 at 11:11 AM

Good gravy, you are completely misguided! Lets accept your premise that the system is corrupt. With all the corrupt reps and dems in Washington, exactly how many vetoes will that stupid @ss Gary Johnson get over ridden? All of them! He will be as ineffective as Carter and it will forever ruin the possibility of electing the type of POTUS you are advocating for.

Winning the skirmish and losing the world is never a viable strategy.

csdeven on December 31, 2011 at 10:36 AM

On the other hand, Congress will be forced to override and justify these vetos instead of the going-along-to-get-along Romney approach, where we nibble around the edges and do nothing to avoid fiscal collapse, and all the unconstitutional and wasteful spending remains tucked away inside budgets, other spending bills, and continuing resolutions – where the public never sees them or debates them.

I know which choice I’m making.

DRayRaven on December 31, 2011 at 11:27 AM

Still ignoring you, save your fingers for someone else.

Cindy Munford on December 31, 2011 at 11:11 AM

If you’re really ignoring him, Simply Dumbford, then quit responding.

MelonCollie on January 1, 2012 at 12:08 PM

It’s not about a forged BC,it’s about “Natural Born Citizen”

•Alexander Hamilton – “Citizen”
•John Jay – “Natural Born Citizen”
. The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution Adopted 9 July 1868 -

. Rep. John Bingham, Principal Framer of the Fourteenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution -

. Supreme Court Cases that Cite “Natural Born Citizen” as One Born on U.S. Soil to Citizen Parents -

•The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)
•Shanks v DuPont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)
•Dred Scott v Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)
•Minor v Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875)
•United States v Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

a “natural born Citizen” was created by someone first becoming a member of the United States (a U.S. citizen) by birth on its soil to a mother and father who were U.S. citizens or if not so born then through naturalization, and then joining with another similarly created U.S. citizen to procreate a child on U.S. soil. The product of that union would be an Article II “natural born Citizen.”

The people are dismissed as clueless while the congress, the media, the current crop of presidential contenders, the Republican and Democrat Parties and the legal system are all living in a fantasy land.

The people are 100 percent correct, and the people have every intention of showing those who continue to obfuscate this extremely serious constitutional crisis the door.

Capt-Dax on January 1, 2012 at 2:04 PM

MelonCollie on January 1, 2012 at 12:08 PM

We don’t see enough of you around here, you should comment more often.

Cindy Munford on January 1, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Arguments over his steadiness aside, wouldn’t it be invigorating to have a president as articulate as Newt?

cane_loader on December 31, 2011 at 9:31

Oh yeah. Too bad he doesn’t lie with a British or even a deep voice with a gentlemanly southern accent.

borntoraisehogs on January 2, 2012 at 9:07 AM

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