Paul in 1995: Say, have you read The Ron Paul Survival Report?

posted at 11:10 am on December 26, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

I don’t think I’ll ever run for public office — but if I do, I think I’d hire Andrew Kascynski as my oppo researcher. That’s not just because he’s good, but mainly to keep him from working for my opponent.  Andrew just started a new gig at Buzzfeed, and his maiden post unearths another 1995 interview in which Ron Paul promotes the newsletters he claims now not to have read at all at the time:

Q: As we get started, I’d like if you could, give us, er, tell us a little bit about yourself, and your background and your experience. Thank you.

PAUL: Okay, just as an aside about the book that you refer to, although that book was put together in the early 1990s, it has materials from years before that, too.

Q. OKay.

PAUL: Like the minority views from the Gold Commission Report. That would have been done about ten years earlier. Anyway, I’m a physician here in Lake Jackson. I deliver babies for a living, but I also do an investment letter. It’s called the Ron Paul Survival Report, and I put that out on a monthly basis –

Q: I’ve heard of that.

PAUL: — which is a gold-oriented newsletter, but it’s also, uh, convening — expressing concern about surviving in this age of big government, where there’s a lot of taxes and regulations, and attacks on our personal liberties. I was concerned about this many years ago.  Even in 1974 I had a lot of concern about this, and, uh, advocated some of the things that they’re talking about right now.

This is similar to the clip Andrew found last week, in which Paul promoted his newsletters with very specific recollections of what they contained.  In this interview, Paul presents the more notorious of his newsletters not just as experience, but as the primary qualification for getting back to Congress.  That makes Paul’s recent assertions that he didn’t have a clue what the newsletters that he published, sold, and from which Paul derived a healthy income contained look a little disingenuous and self-serving now.  These two interviews from 1995 show that Paul wasn’t shy about promoting the newsletters when he thought it would benefit his political aspirations.

The New York Times does a little digging into Paul’s connections to the people who responded to the race-baiting and conspiracy theories published in the Paul newsletters — and who continue to respond to them today.  If that embarrasses Paul, it doesn’t embarrass him enough to tell the white supremacists to take a hike:

Mr. Paul’s surprising surge in polls is creating excitement within a part of his political base that has been behind him for decades but overshadowed by his newer fans on college campuses and in some liberal precincts who are taken with his antiwar, anti-drug-laws messages.

The white supremacists, survivalists and anti-Zionists who have rallied behind his candidacy have not exactly been warmly welcomed. “I wouldn’t be happy with that,” Mr. Paul said in an interview Friday when asked about getting help from volunteers with anti-Jewish or antiblack views.

But he did not disavow their support. “If they want to endorse me, they’re endorsing what I do or say — it has nothing to do with endorsing what they say,” said Mr. Paul, who is now running strong in Iowa for the Republican nomination.

I agree with that — to a point.  Candidates cannot control who does and does not vote for them, of course, although every candidate for every office must fantasize about having that kind of power.  Candidates can control who joins their campaigns, even in volunteer roles.  The NYT reports that Don Black, the leader of the white-supremacist group Stormfront, claims that “several dozen of his members” have volunteered for the Paul campaign this year, but they don’t provide any evidence that this is true.  Accepting a claim from Black on his word is a bit much, though, and without any other evidence, readers should treat this claim with a great deal of skepticism — although it should be recalled that Paul refused to return a $500 donation from Black in the 2007-8 primary campaign, which created a big controversy at that time.

If you’re more interested in Paul’s policy than his record, the Washington Post’s Charles Lane delivers perhaps the ultimate insult for a Republican contender to square off against Barack Obama.  Lane told Fox News Sunday that Paul actually comes closest to the foreign policy views of Obama’s longtime religious leader, Jeremiah Wright:

Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul’s foreign policy outlook isn’t so dissimilar to that of President Obama’s long-time pastor and mentor the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, says Washington Post editorial writer Charles Lane.

On “Fox News Sunday,” Lane made the ideological connection between Paul and Wright, who claimed after the 9/11 attacks that “America’s chickens” had come home to roost.

“Well, I think one of the amazing things that this all shows that this is the Republican Party might be about to crown the winner of the Iowa caucuses, somebody with the foreign policy views of Jeremiah Wright,” Lane said. “Remember that? I mean, Ron Paul goes around blaming the United States for 9/11, etc., etc. So it is obvious he’s not going to be the nominee.”

In a similar vein, former Paul staffer Eric Dondero put out a statement yesterday, which we received but John Hawkins published at Right Wing News. Read the whole thing, which defends Paul from charges of racism and anti-semitism, but not of being a kooky conspiracy theorist. The big problem for Dondero is Paul’s foreign-policy views, which Dondero claims are even more odd than we think. Also, Jonah Goldberg explains why he’s not buying the Paul defense.


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Admission.

AZgranny on December 26, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Of what?

antifederalist on December 26, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Cowardice.

Solaratov on December 26, 2011 at 4:11 PM

So much for having some guts and spelling it out…

V7_Sport on December 26, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Will you answer my question or not?

hawkdriver on December 26, 2011 at 4:09 PM

If you can’t answer your own question, why should I?

antifederalist on December 26, 2011 at 4:09 PM

I can answer your question. WIll you answer mine?

hawkdriver on December 26, 2011 at 4:12 PM

“There’s nobody in this world that could possibly attack us today,” he said in the interview. “I mean, we could defend this country with a few good submarines. If anybody dared touch us we could wipe any country off of the face of the earth within hours. And here we are, so intimidated and so insecure and we’re acting like such bullies that we have to attack third-world nations that have no military and have no weapon.”

Did we not get attacked on 9/11? This statement, by Ron “Tinfoil” Paul was made in 2007. There are many other statements that I could quote, to prove how clueless Ron Paul is, when it comes to national defense.

Ron Paul’s foreign policy is what it is. Defend it, Paultards, but don’t distort it to suit your own “argument.” But I guess you’re only following Ron Paul’s example. The same Ron Paul that claimed that Michelle Bachmann “hates Muslims” and says she advocates starting a war against 1.2 billion of them, neither of which there is factual support for. And the same Ron Paul who voted in favor of this:

(a) IN GENERAL- That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

Apparently the Dear Savior didn’t read this before he voted for it, either. Is there anything he’s read thoroughly?

The hypocrisy is overwhelming, and so is the idiocy of this fool’s supporters.

JannyMae on December 26, 2011 at 4:13 PM

I can answer your question.

hawkdriver on December 26, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Go ahead and answer it

antifederalist on December 26, 2011 at 4:14 PM

Priceless.

S. D. on December 26, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Indeed!

Gang-of-One on December 26, 2011 at 4:18 PM

They were in the middle of a combat zone and yet they weren’t engaged in any combat at the time when they were stuck by rockets.

antifederalist on December 26, 2011 at 3:55 PM

You obviously don’t believe in fighting our enemies.

Are you also one of those pacifists who believes that Jesus intended us to “turn the other cheek” until we’re beaten to death?

JannyMae on December 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM

Go ahead and answer it

antifederalist on December 26, 2011 at 4:14 PM

And there you have it. They will insinuate. They will call the war immoral. The will call it unjust. They will say it cost too much. They will call you a warmonger, NEOCON and chickenhawk. But they lack the courage to actually take it to it’s logical conclusion. They are afraid like children and debate and play games like children.

If you thought we weren’t war criminals, you would have said no by now. So, logically I’ll have to answer for you since you’re scare to say what’s in your heart. You do think we’re all war criminals. Which is sad because as many have pointed out, you know nothing of war.

You’re a gutless coward. I would have rather have died in a burning, smoking, twisted pile of aluminum on some nameless Afghani mountain with no one even remembering that I existed, before I would be you. You’re to be pitied. You and everyone like you.

hawkdriver on December 26, 2011 at 4:24 PM

Why are you Paul supporters who throw around the NEOCON, warmonger, chickenhawk names so afraid to say here what is in your heart?

hawkdriver on December 26, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Ron Paul supporters use the term “Neocon” as a code word for “Jews.” “Neocon” is their attempt to hide their anti-Semitism, because saying “Jews” outright, would be too obvious.

BruthaMan on December 26, 2011 at 4:25 PM

And there you have it. They will insinuate. They will call the war immoral. The will call it unjust. They will say it cost too much. They will call you a warmonger, NEOCON and chickenhawk. But they lack the courage to actually take it to it’s logical conclusion. They are afraid like children and debate and play games like children.

hawkdriver on December 26, 2011 at 4:24 PM

To be fair, hawkdriver, antifederalist is only repeating the same copy/paste comments being regurgitated on the ron paul forums. True, he should know better, but he’s part of the collective hive there, the “borg” mentality.

In exchange for saying the “good things,” they get virtual “slaps on the ass” and “attaboys!” They talk of others being sheep and “herded,” but are absolutely blind to see in themselves what they believe they see in others.

RP supporters are addicted to that “borg” mentality. It means that others can do their thinking for them, that they only have to go to the forums and copy/paste the made up responses others have made for issues. Then go out and repurpose that content. In Germany, they called that propaganda.

It’s amazing how gullible young angry white males with low IQs are. These are the same unthinking people that fall for Alex Jones.

BruthaMan on December 26, 2011 at 4:31 PM

You’re a gutless coward. I would have rather have died in a burning, smoking, twisted pile of aluminum on some nameless Afghani mountain with no one even remembering that I existed, before I would be you. You’re to be pitied. You and everyone like you.

hawkdriver on December 26, 2011 at 4:24 PM

Yup.

V7_Sport on December 26, 2011 at 4:31 PM

BruthaMan on December 26, 2011 at 4:25 PM

The more they talk, the more I believe anything about them is possible B-Man.

hawkdriver on December 26, 2011 at 4:34 PM

You’re a gutless coward. I would have rather have died in a burning, smoking, twisted pile of aluminum on some nameless Afghani mountain with no one even remembering that I existed, before I would be you. You’re to be pitied. You and everyone like you.

hawkdriver on December 26, 2011 at 4:24 PM

Truth, brother. Absolute truth.

Solaratov on December 26, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Dondero says that Paul privately supports the destruction of Israel. If this is true, then Paul is a fraud who has stated publicly that Isreal has a right to exist. One of these two men is therefore lying.

I don’t care about whether Paul’s a racist; in fact, I’d be willing to stipulate he isn’t one. It is his foreign policy views that are always in question. And if he is being deliberately deceptive on policy toward Israel the electorate needs to know that. And his supporters need to come to terms with the truth.

I agree with that 100%, spiritof61.

Mr. Arkadin on December 26, 2011 at 4:39 PM

The more they talk, the more I believe anything about them is possible.

hawkdriver on December 26, 2011 at 4:34 PM

hawkdriver, anyone who could say something like this…

They were in the middle of a combat zone and yet they weren’t engaged in any combat at the time when they were stuck by rockets.

antifederalist on December 26, 2011 at 3:55 PM

…is absolutely clueless.
Unfortunately alot of new RP supporters claim they only support him for his fiscal ideas and not the rest of the drivel. Also unfortunately my son has become one. Sigh…

Deanna on December 26, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Also unfortunately my son has become one. Sigh…

Deanna on December 26, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Lost a comment somewhere. I replied and said that you’ll just have to work to get him to support the primary winner into the general after Paul loses.

hawkdriver on December 26, 2011 at 5:10 PM

Dondero also got into Paul’s vote on going into Afghanistan after 9/11 – he almost voted NO!

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/staffer-says-ron-paul-opposed-to-military-reaction-of-9-11-terror-attacks

jdawg on December 26, 2011 at 5:21 PM

The folks on this forum are effin’ incredible. So much discussion about whether RP wrote the bloody newsletters or knew about them, and not a peep about whether the content is correct or not. No wonder liberals dice-n-slice you guys in the press like a bell pepper if you allow them to set the discourse even in your own internal debates.

Archivarix on December 26, 2011 at 5:24 PM

Archivarix on December 26, 2011 at 5:24 PM

Are you saying you agree with the content of the newsletters or that we should be more solidly against it?

hawkdriver on December 26, 2011 at 5:40 PM

Archivarix on December 26, 2011 at 5:24 PM

Ron Paul: See No Newsletters. Write No Newsletters. Read No Newsletters.

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2011/12/ron-paul-see-no-newsletters-write-no.html

50 Scans To Leave Your Pauliac Lover a/k/a A 30 Step Progamme To Break Yourself Free From The Cult of Paul

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2011/12/pauliacs-50-scans-to-leave-your-lover.html

Palling Around With Racists, Anti-Semites, And Homophobes?

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2011/12/palling-around-with-racists-anti.html

Resist We Much on December 26, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Are you saying you agree with the content of the newsletters or that we should be more solidly against it?

hawkdriver on December 26, 2011 at 5:40 PM

I’d say there are good things in them, and there are bad things. The latter should be stressed and argued against. But saying that everything in the newsletters is wrong is a glaring sign of bias or intellectual dishonesty, or both.

Resist We Much on December 26, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Do everyone a favor and keep this drivel for your DKos posts. I’m not a Herr Doktor’s supporter – in fact, I shudder at the thought that he may be a viable contender for my vote in 2012 – but he’s no anti-Semite. And I happen to be one of them “Juice”.

Archivarix on December 26, 2011 at 6:17 PM

The folks on this forum are effin’ incredible. So much discussion about whether RP wrote the bloody newsletters or knew about them, and not a peep about whether the content is correct or not. No wonder liberals dice-n-slice you guys in the press like a bell pepper if you allow them to set the discourse even in your own internal debates.

Archivarix on December 26, 2011 at 5:24 PM

Missing from your little screed is any mention of the way the sycophantic, Obama-supporting media will exploit these newsletters, in the unlikely event that Ron Paul is selected as the nominee. It’s pretty obvious why you’d like to ignore that little point, though.

JannyMae on December 26, 2011 at 6:18 PM

But saying that everything in the newsletters is wrong is a glaring sign of bias or intellectual dishonesty, or both.

Archivarix on December 26, 2011 at 6:17 PM

I haven’t seen anyone say that “everything” in the newsletters is wrong. Can you point to where anyone made that claim? I have also seen numerous discussion on the various passages that people have a problem with, so your claim that we are only discussing whether or not he wrote them is also unsupported, from what I’ve read here.

JannyMae on December 26, 2011 at 6:22 PM

Missing from your little screed is any mention of the way the sycophantic, Obama-supporting media will exploit these newsletters, in the unlikely event that Ron Paul is selected as the nominee. It’s pretty obvious why you’d like to ignore that little point, though.

JannyMae on December 26, 2011 at 6:18 PM

Even if Herr Doktor is twice as crazy as his opponents want to paint him, he can’t possibly believe that he can possible win the primaries. I’d say his goals are more realistic: to give the libertarian wing of the GOP a seat at the cabinet table, likely as Treasury or Commerce Sec.

Archivarix on December 26, 2011 at 6:23 PM

Do everyone a favor and keep this drivel for your DKos posts. I’m not a Herr Doktor’s supporter – in fact, I shudder at the thought that he may be a viable contender for my vote in 2012 – but he’s no anti-Semite. And I happen to be one of them “Juice”.

Archivarix on December 26, 2011 at 6:17 PM

What you call drivel happens to be a lengthy discussion of several of the things that are actually in those newsletters, that you just claimed nobody is talking about, and they involve much more than the contention that Paul is an anti-Semite.

Dishonest much?

JannyMae on December 26, 2011 at 6:26 PM

Ron Paul supporters use the term “Neocon” as a code word for “Jews.” “Neocon” is their attempt to hide their anti-Semitism, because saying “Jews” outright, would be too obvious.

BruthaMan on December 26, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Yep, he’s a “slavertarian” too:

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/ron-paul-civil-war-unnecessary-abe-lincoln-out-to-destroy-the-republic?cid=PROD-redesign-right-next

Here’s what the OFFICIAL representatives of the seceded states had to say about their -REASON- for secession:

http://civilwarcauses.org/commish.htm

ebrown2 on December 26, 2011 at 6:40 PM

Reagan was also endorsed by the KKK which means Reagan is a racist

liberal4life on December 26, 2011 at 11:51 AM

Um, no.

Reagan repudiated that endorsement, and used the opportunity to renounce the KKK.

Now that you have posting priveledges restored here, you should try a little harder to play up to par.

massrighty on December 26, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Also unfortunately my son has become one. Sigh…

Deanna on December 26, 2011 at 4:48 PM

I’m in the same boat with our son, but we’re working on it, slowly but surely, one day at a time. Pretty sure his views will change rather soon.

riddick on December 26, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Uh oh, breaking news as of 2000. The newsmax readers and G.W. Bush supporters have some ‘splainin to do!

hotairhead on December 26, 2011 at 7:55 PM

Uh oh, breaking news as of 2000. The newsmax readers and G.W. Bush supporters have some ‘splainin to do!

hotairhead on December 26, 2011 at 7:55 PM

“Ron Paul racist newsletters? Look over there! Something shiny!”

Logboy on December 26, 2011 at 8:10 PM

The Rev. Wright comparison is awesomely perceptive in it’s accuracy.

contrarytopopularbelief on December 26, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Do everyone a favor and keep this drivel for your DKos posts. I’m not a Herr Doktor’s supporter – in fact, I shudder at the thought that he may be a viable contender for my vote in 2012 – but he’s no anti-Semite. And I happen to be one of them “Juice”.

Archivarix on December 26, 2011 at 6:17 PM

I am a libertarian, idiot, and I can’t stand the Daily Kooks. It is incumbent upon Ron Paul to explain his newsletters. He has had 4 different positions since 1995. He is either a “racist, anti-Semitic homophobe,” palled around with “racists, anti-Semites and homophobes” or was a terrible small business owner, who shouldn’t be entrusted with a Leviathan the size of the Federal government. Let him call a press conference at the National Press Club and tell us the truth.

By the way, if you want to see anti-Semitism, the Kooks site is a great place to find it.

Resist We Much on December 26, 2011 at 8:15 PM

The Rev. Wright comparison is awesomely perceptive in it’s accuracy.

contrarytopopularbelief on December 26, 2011 at 8:11 PM

It is, as would be the comparison of Obama “I didn’t hear Reverend Wright ever say anything racist, anti-Semitic or homophobic during the 20 years that I sat in his pews” to Paul “I don’t remember writing or reading anything racist, anti-Semitic or homophobic in my own newsletters in 20 years.”

Resist We Much on December 26, 2011 at 8:18 PM

What you call drivel happens to be a lengthy discussion of several of the things that are actually in those newsletters, that you just claimed nobody is talking about, and they involve much more than the contention that Paul is an anti-Semite.

Dishonest much?

JannyMae on December 26, 2011 at 6:26 P

Thank you, Jannie. That’s my website. He said that no one is talking about the content of the newsletters; yet, I have linked to the scans on my blog numerous times here. I have ferociously condemned what is in the newsletters and I know for a fact that I am not alone here in doing so.

Resist We Much on December 26, 2011 at 8:33 PM

I just wanted to post a few things for those of you crapping all over Ron Paul. He doesn’t hate the Jews, what I get from what he says, is he doesn’t think we should pile billions of dollars toward them when our own country is going to poo. He wants to focus on us, the USA, not spend all of our money on useless wars and supporting the world when we can keep the funds here to make our country stronger.

Anyway, for your reading pleasure.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/12/23/breaking-patriot-missiles-seized-sold-to-china-by-israel/

it might take a few to open, it is rather busy tonight.

Merry Christmas :)

nwpammy on December 26, 2011 at 9:16 PM

He wants to focus on us, the USA, not spend all of our money on useless wars and supporting the world when we can keep the funds here to make our country stronger.

nwpammy on December 26, 2011 at 9:16 PM

Problem there is just like Leftist divestment types, he singles out a Jewish state.

Paul has never called for an end of all international expenditures or to break all contracts and commitments to areas in all conflict zones.

He isn’t calling to break off ties with India, despite their issues in Kashmir.

He isn’t calling on an end to debt relief, loans, and government contracts (like which make up the bulk of our aid package to Israel) to any other country, unless he’s prompted.

So if we take all that into account, it’s hard not to read into it.
Also, dropping out of the world stage is a platform similar to what Obama wants, but would never publicly admit. It’s Anti-American in the full sense. Paul’s view is that of an exclusionary, segregationist, US enclave, that washes it’s hands from the various Motherlands from which we came.

contrarytopopularbelief on December 26, 2011 at 9:59 PM

Anyway, for your reading pleasure.

nwpammy on December 26, 2011 at 9:16 PM

Is that the kind of site Ron paul supporters go to to make the think they’re pro-military while bashing it.

Lemme guess, jet fuel don’t burn steel? WTF dude? Is it run by Alex Jones or what?

(Excuse me everyone, I have to shower now to get the stench of that conspiracy theory site off of me)

hawkdriver on December 26, 2011 at 10:02 PM

PAUL: Like the minority views from the Gold Commission Report. That would have been done about ten years earlier. Anyway, I’m a physician here in Lake Jackson. I deliver babies for a living, but I also do an investment letter. It’s called the Ron Paul Survival Report, and I put that out on a monthly basis

He was mighty proud of it, even though he didn’t write a word of it, and had no idea what was in it – that is, if you believe the Paultards.

Ward Cleaver on December 26, 2011 at 10:27 PM

nwpammy on December 26, 2011 at 9:16 PM

Nope. Not buying another conspiracy theory site populated by paulbot/anti-semites.
From just that one page, that site belongs with Alex Jones and Stormfront.
You’re going to have to come up with something better than that pile of crap.

Solaratov on December 26, 2011 at 11:19 PM

What I don’t understand is how Texans can be so batty as to keep electing this guy, and to even entertain the notion that he could win Iowa only shows how whacked out those people are. When are people going to learn that extremism doesn’t work in politics? The Paultards need to get a grip and stop making all their noise about Paul. They’re not convincing anybody. Right or wrong, Ron Paul is not a national leader and would never be able to work with Congress. We might as well accept it: Mitt’s our man.

HiJack on December 27, 2011 at 3:42 AM

The Paul—– [edited] need to get a grip and stop making all their noise about Paul.

HiJack on December 27, 2011 at 3:42 AM

I have to say, the Paul—– epithet I keep seeing thrown around here is very troubling. I’d expect it on a liberal forum, but there are many people here who have a special needs person in their life.

TXGOP on December 27, 2011 at 9:04 AM

“at all”

“not always”

See fabrication, poor cut/paste job, Ed.

maverick muse on December 27, 2011 at 10:12 AM

advocated some of the things that they’re talking about right now.

Ed, there it is. Not what you wanted.

In the interest of full disclosure, do the Morrissey’s have any investment in precious metals these days?

maverick muse on December 27, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Solaratov on December 26, 2011 at 11:19 PM

Mises.org

Of the famous economists and humanitarians (some of whom Ron Paul chose to feature prominently in his Congressional Office), do your own due diligence before proving yourself antisemitic for attempting to discredit on the basis of race such men as Rothbard, Mises, Hayek, Fertig and Hazlitt.

It is you who play the racist card, promoting lies. So wear your hatred against Jews armband out in the open, segregating which Jewish population “matters” and which branch deserves persecution and genocide, you ignorant assh@t.

If Ed Morrissey wants to claim being literate on the subject of Ron Paul, where’s the evidence from the volumes of articles authored by Ron Paul? But of course, HotAirheads ignore the truth when it disproves the favored lie. Now, if Morrissey wants to claim having accomplished scholarly research, where’s the evidence?

Ed’s words posted to defer eyes from the Constitution, “Nothing to see here, trust me.”

maverick muse on December 27, 2011 at 10:40 AM

WOW!!! On one article you show Americans want a major reduction in size of government and than in another article you try to discredit and destroy the ONLY CANDIDATE that has a plan to do what a majority of Americans want!

Ron Paul is the only candidate that has a plan that will deal with this National Threat!
1. Eliminate the Personel Income Tax and replace it with government cuts
2. Eliminate the IRS & FED Reserve
3. Put us on a market driven gold standard
4. Cut 5 departments of government.
5. Eliminate the EPA
6. We’re spending to much on defending every country around the world. Ron will cut our military buget to $500 billion so that we can defend our country and secure our boarders.
7. He will eliminate Obamacare and replace it with a true free market.
8. He will cut TSA and have the private sector handle airport security.

Rush Limbaugh endorses Ron Paul plan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t96QPXbA0g

Capitalist75 on December 26, 2011 at 1:33 PM

That’s a great plan, but does RP admit that he wrote it? Can we be sure he even read it? Because he’s sorta confused about what he wrote and read.

Akzed on December 27, 2011 at 11:15 AM

You’re a gutless coward. I would have rather have died in a burning, smoking, twisted pile of aluminum on some nameless Afghani mountain with no one even remembering that I existed, before I would be you. You’re to be pitied. You and everyone like you.

hawkdriver on December 26, 2011 at 4:24 PM

I can remember saying something similar once to a protester, long time ago, cold war….

I wish I could undo somethings and re-enlist, I miss being around men like you, officers, enlisted. We had a purpose, did something with our lives, even though it was a given nobody would ever hear our names, make any monuments. We knew it was important, and that was enough.

Too bad we’ll never meet sir.. different times, different service,.. I would’ve liked serving with you.

mark81150 on December 27, 2011 at 11:29 AM

mark81150 on December 27, 2011 at 11:29 AM

I miss being with the young people that I served with also. I’d be proud to serve with you too.

hawkdriver on December 27, 2011 at 12:04 PM

Ed’s words posted to defer eyes from the Constitution, “Nothing to see here, trust me.”

maverick muse on December 27, 2011 at 10:40 AM

First you accuse this site of distortions, while referencing a webpage which names Lew Rockwell among it’s distinguished authors.. ok, nutjob… gotcha..

Are we stopping you from saving the Constitution are we? Oh excuse the Hell out of us for refusing to just swallow whole every single isolationist clown and conspiracy whackjob what comes down the pike proclaiming Paul the chosen one. Rockwell and Jones have no credibility, none. They are well known conspiracy cranks, and facts, have never affected them, they like what they make up better. Easier to blame other Americans when you do that.

I’m really starting to detest Paul’s fans, their defense amounts to..

“Shut the F Up, you neocon joo loving chickenhawk Constitution haters”…

I took an oath to defend the Consitution as did every serviceman and woman, and gave that service, even though it cost some their lives..

What the Hell have Paul’s fans ever defended? Other than Iran quest for a nuke, not a Hell of alot recently. Oh they did defend the Iraqi and Afghan insurgents,.. Paul’s lunacy shined in his defense of their right to shoot Americans..

How the Hell do you people sleep at night?

Paul can’t win, He can game Iowa, but not the primaries,. there, you can’t cheat. The real fear you Paulians have, is that the truth about his insane theories will come out before you have deluded enough people to win any states.

mark81150 on December 27, 2011 at 12:43 PM

He was – as he does on everything – SPEAKING TRUTH TO POWER!!

He didn’t write those newsletters! Well, he didn’t write all of them. Well, they were only published under his name for over a decade. You can’t expect the guy who was editor of the newsletters to know whats in them, can you? Of course not…could happen to anyone, really. Anyway, he took responsibility for them, even though he also hasn’t, depending on the year and season. And who can blame the guy for profiting from something he had no idea about? See, he said he’d like to see some of that money. All the proof I need. Any financial records saying otherwise are probably from some dirty…well, anyway. I know there is video of him talking about and praising the Newsletters but who are you going to believe? Ron Paul now or Ron Paul then? All of these are just details, really. Can’t we get back to the work at hand?

He has never actually came out and blamed America for anything, except of course when he has. Its only been a few times though, honest. Everyone has a little bit of ‘Hate America’ in them, amIright? If you’re being intellectually honest, of course you do!

He has never voted for one earmark – ever! True story! I know he put them in all those bills and requested over $30BILLION dollars of them over the years… Again, just details. But he never voted for them. Yeah, he got them anyway and accepted the money, sure. Just like any TRUE, PRINCIPLED, CONSERVATIVE, AMERICA LOVING POLITICIAN WOULD DO! But he never voted for them – aren’t you listening to me?

Of course he wants other investigations into 9/11. Who wouldn’t? Who’s afraid of simply asking questions? No one who’s after TRUTH, that’s for sure – or who isn’t controlled by the Jews in the MSM, AMIRIGHT *nudge*?! The 9/11 Commission report was a sham anyway. You know who was on the committee don’t you? Jews, that’s who. It was the Mossad after all that brought down the Twin Towers. Although it could have been rogue elements of the CIA, probably working with those dirty Jews but that’s why he says we need another investigation. Any real American would want the truth (about those dirty Jews), *wink*!

As far as his huge support from racists and white supremacists and anti-semites, hey! I never hear anyone on Hot Gas (pffft) writing posts about our current Presidents associations with the Black Panthers and folks like Jeremiah Wright and America haters like Bill Ayers or his wife… What? Really? That many? For years?

Whatever man, your just deflecting now, aren’t you. Typical of you non-intellectual neo-con warmongers who hate the Constitution and are really stooges of the elitist Zionists…btw, have you ever heard of the Bilderbergers? Bohemian Grove? I know this great radio guy you should listen to, his name is Alex Jones. If he’s not your cup of tea there’s another guy, a great guy, Lew Rockwell? Or if you want the real truth, head over to this website, its for this group called Stromfront… Yeah, they love him.

You’re not afraid of your European Whiteness…are you?

catmman on December 27, 2011 at 1:09 PM

@ catmman: I’m shocked. I never would have guessed you were a RP supporter./

S. D. on December 27, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Ron Paul always likes to throw in the line about how he saw “this” coming back in whatever non-recorded stone age year he feels like throwing out, like he’s somehow a luminary of political thought, with a prescience not unlike Lightbringer.

mintycrys on December 27, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Yet MORE proof poof Ron Pauls racism..

http://www.5k.com/

megak on December 27, 2011 at 5:45 PM

And all this time I thought the “lying liars lying” thread the “low point” of HA…I was mistaken…

Gohawgs on December 27, 2011 at 8:20 PM

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