Paul in 1995: Say, have you read The Ron Paul Survival Report?
posted at 11:10 am on December 26, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
I don’t think I’ll ever run for public office — but if I do, I think I’d hire Andrew Kascynski as my oppo researcher. That’s not just because he’s good, but mainly to keep him from working for my opponent. Andrew just started a new gig at Buzzfeed, and his maiden post unearths another 1995 interview in which Ron Paul promotes the newsletters he claims now not to have read at all at the time:
Q: As we get started, I’d like if you could, give us, er, tell us a little bit about yourself, and your background and your experience. Thank you.
PAUL: Okay, just as an aside about the book that you refer to, although that book was put together in the early 1990s, it has materials from years before that, too.
Q. OKay.
PAUL: Like the minority views from the Gold Commission Report. That would have been done about ten years earlier. Anyway, I’m a physician here in Lake Jackson. I deliver babies for a living, but I also do an investment letter. It’s called the Ron Paul Survival Report, and I put that out on a monthly basis –
Q: I’ve heard of that.
PAUL: — which is a gold-oriented newsletter, but it’s also, uh, convening — expressing concern about surviving in this age of big government, where there’s a lot of taxes and regulations, and attacks on our personal liberties. I was concerned about this many years ago. Even in 1974 I had a lot of concern about this, and, uh, advocated some of the things that they’re talking about right now.
This is similar to the clip Andrew found last week, in which Paul promoted his newsletters with very specific recollections of what they contained. In this interview, Paul presents the more notorious of his newsletters not just as experience, but as the primary qualification for getting back to Congress. That makes Paul’s recent assertions that he didn’t have a clue what the newsletters that he published, sold, and from which Paul derived a healthy income contained look a little disingenuous and self-serving now. These two interviews from 1995 show that Paul wasn’t shy about promoting the newsletters when he thought it would benefit his political aspirations.
The New York Times does a little digging into Paul’s connections to the people who responded to the race-baiting and conspiracy theories published in the Paul newsletters — and who continue to respond to them today. If that embarrasses Paul, it doesn’t embarrass him enough to tell the white supremacists to take a hike:
Mr. Paul’s surprising surge in polls is creating excitement within a part of his political base that has been behind him for decades but overshadowed by his newer fans on college campuses and in some liberal precincts who are taken with his antiwar, anti-drug-laws messages.
The white supremacists, survivalists and anti-Zionists who have rallied behind his candidacy have not exactly been warmly welcomed. “I wouldn’t be happy with that,” Mr. Paul said in an interview Friday when asked about getting help from volunteers with anti-Jewish or antiblack views.
But he did not disavow their support. “If they want to endorse me, they’re endorsing what I do or say — it has nothing to do with endorsing what they say,” said Mr. Paul, who is now running strong in Iowa for the Republican nomination.
I agree with that — to a point. Candidates cannot control who does and does not vote for them, of course, although every candidate for every office must fantasize about having that kind of power. Candidates can control who joins their campaigns, even in volunteer roles. The NYT reports that Don Black, the leader of the white-supremacist group Stormfront, claims that “several dozen of his members” have volunteered for the Paul campaign this year, but they don’t provide any evidence that this is true. Accepting a claim from Black on his word is a bit much, though, and without any other evidence, readers should treat this claim with a great deal of skepticism — although it should be recalled that Paul refused to return a $500 donation from Black in the 2007-8 primary campaign, which created a big controversy at that time.
If you’re more interested in Paul’s policy than his record, the Washington Post’s Charles Lane delivers perhaps the ultimate insult for a Republican contender to square off against Barack Obama. Lane told Fox News Sunday that Paul actually comes closest to the foreign policy views of Obama’s longtime religious leader, Jeremiah Wright:
Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul’s foreign policy outlook isn’t so dissimilar to that of President Obama’s long-time pastor and mentor the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, says Washington Post editorial writer Charles Lane.
On “Fox News Sunday,” Lane made the ideological connection between Paul and Wright, who claimed after the 9/11 attacks that “America’s chickens” had come home to roost.
“Well, I think one of the amazing things that this all shows that this is the Republican Party might be about to crown the winner of the Iowa caucuses, somebody with the foreign policy views of Jeremiah Wright,” Lane said. “Remember that? I mean, Ron Paul goes around blaming the United States for 9/11, etc., etc. So it is obvious he’s not going to be the nominee.”
In a similar vein, former Paul staffer Eric Dondero put out a statement yesterday, which we received but John Hawkins published at Right Wing News. Read the whole thing, which defends Paul from charges of racism and anti-semitism, but not of being a kooky conspiracy theorist. The big problem for Dondero is Paul’s foreign-policy views, which Dondero claims are even more odd than we think. Also, Jonah Goldberg explains why he’s not buying the Paul defense.
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The rEVOlution apparently was televised.
rob verdi on December 26, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Ron Paul: a target rich environment.
Akzed on December 26, 2011 at 11:15 AM
Glenn Beck’s father?
celtic warrior on December 26, 2011 at 11:17 AM
You call yourself a conservative, Ed. Maybe you should learn about conservatism if you think his foreign policy is liberal.
Dante on December 26, 2011 at 11:18 AM
Ronulans. Paulbots. Whatever you call them, here they come.
unclesmrgol on December 26, 2011 at 11:18 AM
Thankfully Ron Paul is still in the race or we’d still be getting posts about Tim Pawlenty.
Notorious GOP on December 26, 2011 at 11:18 AM
I can see Romney working overtime digging up all these old videos…
What does he have to say about the racist early teaching of the Mormon church?
liberal4life on December 26, 2011 at 11:20 AM
awesome
Dante on December 26, 2011 at 11:20 AM
Who’s up for Alex Jones as Ron Paul’s WH Press Secretary broadcasting Prison Planet from the West Wing?
workingclass artist on December 26, 2011 at 11:20 AM
Paul will win Iowa, Romney New Hampshire. Romney wins the nomination (after a little fight in the remaining states).
The end.
DanStark on December 26, 2011 at 11:22 AM
Dr. Paul’s chickens are coming home to roost!/?/
Bmore on December 26, 2011 at 11:23 AM
“Of course I sign those prescription forms that have my Dr. Ron Paul M.D. letterhead on top, but I don’t pay much attention to the drugs listed.”
RBMN on December 26, 2011 at 11:24 AM
Ed, it speaks to a certain shiftlessness to recycle Allahpundit’s posts from time to time.
But to recycle your own blog posts????
That just speaks to a horrible lack of imagination.
I know Christmkas is a busy time Ed, but seriously…
JohnGalt23 on December 26, 2011 at 11:25 AM
Was Romney the author of these early teachings?
Rio Linda Refugee on December 26, 2011 at 11:25 AM
This wasn’t Romney, it was Buzzfeed. Rest assured their campaign will use it to kill Paul’s chances (and to call him a liar).
What would he say about his church’s past exclusion of non-whites? That his dad marched with MLK.
DanStark on December 26, 2011 at 11:26 AM
But but but … he’s so popular. Just like Sarah was.
Maybe Cain can use this to re-activate. One can only hope.
platypus on December 26, 2011 at 11:26 AM
Heh. I can work up a T-Paw post. Or, er, maybe I can’t.
Ed Morrissey on December 26, 2011 at 11:27 AM
I feel bad about all this news coming to light, I told a Paul supporter that I could vote for Rep. Paul over Obama. While I don’t think I will be called on to make this decision, I must now decline to vote for the office if these are my choices.
Cindy Munford on December 26, 2011 at 11:28 AM
? ? ? ? ? ?
listens2glenn on December 26, 2011 at 11:30 AM
I’m getting a sneaking suspicion Ed is in the tank for Ron Paul. All this “dirty laundry” is just a diversion maneuver.
DanStark on December 26, 2011 at 11:30 AM
It would destroy the Republican Party. In other words, Democrats have found their Republican primary candidate, and they’ll vote in lockstep while Republicans split their votes between the rest of the candidates.
Buddahpundit on December 26, 2011 at 11:30 AM
What the heck are you talking about? You have to be a lunatic for somebody.
Sheesh. This integrity thingy is going to be the death of us.
platypus on December 26, 2011 at 11:31 AM
Here is Paul in his own words:
Rather interesting viewpoint on the foreign policy of a country which did all of the above in order to defeat Communism.
Interesting position for a country existing in a sea of powers which would do otherwise.
I don’t think any conservative would take that viewpoint with respect to killing bin Ladin, the architect of the worst attacks on America in decades.
unclesmrgol on December 26, 2011 at 11:31 AM
IIRC, the KKK endorsed Reagan back in 1979-80. He renounced/denounced the endorsement.
rbj on December 26, 2011 at 11:32 AM
I love how you Paulbots (especially the new ones) attack Ed, questioning his Conservatism. When you’re invited to a party, do you tell the host that their house looks horrible?
kingsjester on December 26, 2011 at 11:34 AM
This is hotair. We’re different.
platypus on December 26, 2011 at 11:35 AM
I think there is a very good argument to be had over what exactly conservative foreign policy is. To what extent do conservatives think we should expand our bases or focus our funds at home? How much money do we spend overseas? Do we police the world? If so, under what circumstances.
Instead we seem to be going to MSNBC route and just pointing at one side and playing the race card. I have to believe that we can have a better discourse than just crying racism and not discussing the very real and very important dissenting views of conservative foreign policy.
ModerateMan on December 26, 2011 at 11:37 AM
Regardless as to whether or not renounced them, the KKK did endorse them. Therefore, they (the KKK) must have agreed with Reagan’s policies. By that logic, St. Reagan must be a racist too.
antifederalist on December 26, 2011 at 11:37 AM
I am no RP supporter but look at Lane bringing up Wright in the same sentence as Paul. Did we see any of association vetting when BHO was running? Suddenly these pundits are now Woodward and Bernstein. Look who he not only associates with but who are his czars and union buddies running this country into the ground. Why don’t they start there?
FLconservative on December 26, 2011 at 11:37 AM
Most people probably don’t leave comment books at the door of every room, though.
Ed Morrissey on December 26, 2011 at 11:37 AM
This is hotair. We’re different.
platypus on December 26, 2011 at 11:35 AM
Some of us, more than others. Trolls do break up the monotony.
kingsjester on December 26, 2011 at 11:38 AM
You got things a little mixed up. It’s two different videos.
whatcat on December 26, 2011 at 11:39 AM
It’s funny but the same people defending Paul’s claim that he didn’t read those newsletters would never buy that excuse from anyone else, espeially Obama.
Bottom line, Paul is nothing but another politician and I don’t believe him for one minute. I don’t buy that he believes in anything he spouts off about just to appeal to his base, and I think he covers his a$$ just like any other politico. Sorry, but he’s not special or unusual, and he’s not a doddering old fool. He’s a conniving old politican, just like all the rest.
Deanna on December 26, 2011 at 11:39 AM
This is more widespread in Paul family than you know, look up Chris HIghtower and his work on the Rand Paul campaign before it came out he was a white supremacist and God Hater and they dumped in in early part of campaign, taking some heat.
Lew Rockwell is a nut, he is also Paul’s closest friend and ally. He(they?) crafted a strategy to build a coalition around Racist into their Paleo-Libertarian Anarcho-Capitalism.
jp on December 26, 2011 at 11:40 AM
BTW Ed, Newsletters came out this weekend of Paul denouncing Pork spending and telling how great he was since he didn’t take home the Pork…..wrote in First person btw.
jp on December 26, 2011 at 11:40 AM
That is not what he said to CNN. He said he read the newsletters sometimes, but not the controversial passages, which appeared in only a few of the newsletters.
Ed, you’re flat wrong on trying to make an issue out of that. I’m not in the tank for Paul at all, but he is being treated very unfairly over this. I watched the unedited CNN interview and it was clear from the context that he was stating that he did read the newsletters some of the time, did not read the controversial passages at the time, did not write them, and disavows them. I don’t know why this is so hard.
Also, the CCN interviewer was badgering him. Her question asking if he would give the million dollars he supposedly made back was ridiculous, insulting, stupid, and nonsensical, his answer “to who?” highlighted that. If I was in Paul’s shoes, I would be very irritated with the interviewer. She was trying to force him to make statements that could be taken out of context and used against him. It sounded more like a lawyer deposition or a police interrogation than a news interview.
kaltes on December 26, 2011 at 11:41 AM
I think most who post on this site like Ron Paul’s purported fiscal policy. (Never mind that he’s never done anything to actually enact it.)
But you have to consider the rest of Paul’s resume, as well…
- 9/11 truther
- critical of blacks
- critical of jews
- critical of conservative republicans
- ‘blame America first’ foreign policy
- slipping billions of pork into his own district
It will be a black eye for both the GOP and the state of Iowa if this guy wins the upcoming primary…
shinty on December 26, 2011 at 11:41 AM
and a trend, we now have 3 different videos from 3 different days of Paul promoting his Newsletters
jp on December 26, 2011 at 11:41 AM
Yes – it was just one local KKK chapter actually, looking for some free publicity. Reagan did indeed immediately renounce the endorsement and denounce them.
whatcat on December 26, 2011 at 11:42 AM
Interesting how the paul lovers are attacking everything but the proof itself.
Ed is not a Conservative, Romney is a racist by association, blah, blah, blah,….
Hard Right on December 26, 2011 at 11:43 AM
Pretty funny that some guy has done more that every single GOP staffer or conservative blogger this election cycle.
This is why Obama will win in 2012. Our side is just dumb.
tetriskid on December 26, 2011 at 11:46 AM
I don’t always agree with Ed’s viewpoint but he is always classy. This retort is but one good example of that trait.
platypus on December 26, 2011 at 11:46 AM
RonPlosion 2012!
Feel my wrath, bitchez!
thedevilinside on December 26, 2011 at 11:47 AM
Ain’t that the truth. Open drawers and closets at your own risk.
Cindy Munford on December 26, 2011 at 11:48 AM
That’s the same excuse Obama gave about Wright “What? I never heard that!” – and we’re talking about something that Paul himself actually ran. Of course he’s now going to half-hardheartedly pretend to throw his newsletters under the bus, just as Obama did with Wright.
whatcat on December 26, 2011 at 11:48 AM
Reagan was also endorsed by the KKK which means Reagan is a racist
liberal4life on December 26, 2011 at 11:51 AM
Politically speaking these mean Paul is a Racist on top of being a Whackjob.
Just wait, if he polls well long enough his voting record will roll out.
Paul voted AGAINST, the ONLY VOTE Against a Rosa Parks Medal to honor her. He claimed Taxpayers couldnt afford it, turns out the Taxpayers didn’t pay a dime for it because Treasury sold replicas and made money off them.
Paul Co-Sponsored and voted for a similar BOY SCOUTS medal also, which did cost Taxpayers money.
For some reason…..he couldn’t bring himself to vote for a Rosa Parks medal. Teed up perfectly for any politco that wants to knock Paul out.
jp on December 26, 2011 at 11:51 AM
That and I feel like I fibbed to the Paul supporter.
Cindy Munford on December 26, 2011 at 11:52 AM
Ron Paul. The crazy uncle nobody talks about at holiday dinners.
ManWithNoName on December 26, 2011 at 11:52 AM
The deeply researched Glenn Beck hardest hit.
beatcanvas on December 26, 2011 at 11:53 AM
No, they were/are in ALOT of the NEwsletters.
More, the Solicitiation Letters are were the real Crazy is at which is saying something.
The Newsletters are being tweeted Line by Line on Twitter right now: @RP_Newsletters
jp on December 26, 2011 at 11:53 AM
The idea that Ron Paul didn’t write, edit, and/or read his newsletters – is simply ludicrous.
Rebar on December 26, 2011 at 11:56 AM
Merry Christmas to you!
Bmore on December 26, 2011 at 11:57 AM
It’s amazing how many posts HA has put out on this same topic, when there is absolutely no new news since 4 years ago, or 15 years ago…
NewLiberty on December 26, 2011 at 11:59 AM
Exception: being a Steelers fan.
Dr. Carlo Lombardi on December 26, 2011 at 12:00 PM
By the way, for all the Hot Airheads who (all of a sudden) seem to be concerned with racism in this county, please note that the worst aspect about racism is that it ascribes the actions committed by a few people to an entire race of people. I think Ron Paul has mentioned something about seeing people not a collective groups but as individuals. There are many here in this forum who assume that because a very small minority of people of a particular race/religion (Arab/Persian Muslims) are suicidal maniacs and therefore an entire country of 75 million people (Iran) think the same way. Therefore, to many of the Hot Airheads here, the US should impose crippling sanctions (which impoverishes people) or be ready to wage war (which results in maiming or killing people). Before you all point your fingers, ask yourselves who are the real racists?
One other thing. The worst “racist” actions that you can ascribe to Ron Paul is that 20 years ago he made some racially insensitive remarks in a newsletter. This is hardly an unpardonable sin. Simply having negative thoughts about people of a different race is not sin or a crime. The racist act that is a sin is an act of violence is committed against a person because of his or her race (e.g. KKK lynching, Holocaust, etc.) Ron Paul has never advocated any acts of violence against anyone. Ron Paul is antiwar and anti-violence (which is the REAL reason why many of the Hot Airheads here dislike him). However, many of the Hot Airheads here have no problem with committing acts of violence against Arab/Persian Muslims in far away countries. As yourself again, who are the real racists?
antifederalist on December 26, 2011 at 12:01 PM
Strike three for me…
Was a Paul supporter…now I am not.
I cannot support him…too many signs of this comming out now…Like Herman Cain…just coincidents??…I don’t think so.
I am in Iowa….he just lost my vote.
Anybody but Romney…and now Paul(what was I thinking?)UGH..
coach1228 on December 26, 2011 at 12:01 PM
Of course Paul is going to play up the newsletters back in 95 – they were the only thing remotely political he was doing, and he wanted to get back in Congress. Meanwhile, it’s important to keep in mind that the objectionable content amounted to several sentences over years worth of content.
NewLiberty on December 26, 2011 at 12:01 PM
Correct.
And then you have Ronulans.
ManWithNoName on December 26, 2011 at 12:02 PM
OMG!!! Morissey has posted a hate-RonPaul thread!! Oh, wow, this is unique! Oh. What? Never mind. He does that every day? Oh, I see. Yeah, gold is evil. Fiat money is righteous. Liberty is subversive. Paul is EVIL and RAAACIST!!!! All sheep get in line and vote for Romney. Good sheep. Do what the bankstas tell ya. LOL. All hail the papists and statists. LOL.
shawk on December 26, 2011 at 12:03 PM
Most of Paul’s musings about blacks occurred around the same time as 1992 race riots in LA. Paul’s more recent musings about race have been concerning Jews and Israel. Paul believes US taxpayer dollars are being wasted on Israel. I can understand that thought as he opposes all foreign aid. But why does he support the fictional state of Palestine? Why does he believe that Israel should not exist?
ZGMF_Freedom on December 26, 2011 at 12:04 PM
Is that a bad reflection on Dr.Paul? Maybe its time for an alleged affair, you know, to make for something unexpected and new. He could join the ranks of Palin, Gingrich and Cain. Am I leaving any other R’s out?
Bmore on December 26, 2011 at 12:07 PM
Interesting parallels between the Paul and Obama campaigns. Both are campaigning to the center with a wink and a nod to the radicals they were previously associated with. Both have troublesome connections to despicable racists, and both have the same defense. Paul was familiar with some of the content of the newsletters, just not the racist parts. Obama was familiar with some of the contents of Rev. Wright’s sermons, just no the racist parts.
Word to the wise: There are no coincidences. Both of these men are liars and racists.
novaculus on December 26, 2011 at 12:12 PM
I’m thinking your view of HA readership is quite interesting. I have never seen anyone posting here even coming close to being a war-monger.
AZgranny on December 26, 2011 at 12:16 PM
Right but there are a few of us who think it’s just fine to test our armaments at the Iranian Proving Ground test site.
platypus on December 26, 2011 at 12:21 PM
His also subscribing people’s opposition to Ron Paul as part of a general character defect rather than legitimate concerns about Ron Paul’s views on foreign policy and race.
ZGMF_Freedom on December 26, 2011 at 12:22 PM
then
It didn’t take long to prove my point.
antifederalist on December 26, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Nice.
BallisticBob on December 26, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Tripe.
You can’t accurately generalize so broadly about the commenting membership membership here. Just as an example, many of us who take a hard line on Islam (and I take about as hard a line as you can imagine) recognize that many Muslims simply do not believe violence against their neighbors is an acceptable tactic. The fact is that these people may be in the minority, and may have beliefs that run counter to the founding principles of Islam, but they do exist. Some in this country even believe in the principle against establishment of a state sponsored religion, which most assuredly runs counter to fundamental Islamic principles. But they consider themselves Muslims, and how they justify their heresy is up to them.
Nor do many of us fail to make the distinction between the people of Iran, and their Islamist leadership. Many here were outraged that Obama did not support the people of Iran when they attempted to rise up against the Islamist madmen who lead their corrupt government.
I recommend you put down the broad brush.
novaculus on December 26, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Racism? He endorsed Cynthia McKinney.
Cindy Munford on December 26, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Exactly. But I don’t think that is being a war-monger, I have a feeling this person doesn’t quite see the whole picture of what is happening in the world today. It is a different place than it was in 1776.
AZgranny on December 26, 2011 at 12:28 PM
They can also control the message by strongly admonishing these supporters and coherently explaining and clarifying his own positions.
Paul has done neither.
He simply claims he knew nothing.
I’m not buying this.
Tim_CA on December 26, 2011 at 12:29 PM
Just poppin’ in to say Hi. I just arrived @ my husband’s family reunion in Soviet California. I’m looking so forward to pissing off some lefty with my little Chicago-Lubbock hybrid self. ANYWAY-This week I’ll be around-but since I’m expected to actually spend time with husband’s family(and my Spawn) I won’t be living here like normal…and Ronulan is still a Jew-hating, Blame-America-firster, 9/11 Truther, conspiracy theorist who’s full of suck.
*smiles innocently*
annoyinglittletwerp on December 26, 2011 at 12:30 PM
true.
AZgranny on December 26, 2011 at 12:32 PM
Earth to AZgranny, bombing another country is an act of war. Thinking it’s fine to bomb another country makes you a warmonger.
antifederalist on December 26, 2011 at 12:33 PM
He was talking about that specific operation. Regardless, nothing that you posted refutes the fact that non-interventionism was the conservative position until the neocons infected the Republican Party.
Dante on December 26, 2011 at 12:35 PM
There is a very real history of conservatism, one that goes beyond 1968. I think many people would benefit to learn it. That said, if Ed feels he or his positions are being attacked, or if he feels a line is being crossed, I’m sure he’s capable of saying so.
Dante on December 26, 2011 at 12:39 PM
lmao…
Enjoy twerp….hi to the inlaws!!
Tim_CA on December 26, 2011 at 12:39 PM
No, and yet, somehow managed to survive anyway.
Except for that baby left in the bucket.
Paul’s plausible deniability is implausible.
rukiddingme on December 26, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Dante on December 26, 2011 at 12:39 PM
Considering the line of garbage you’ve been spewing since you registered, you may become well acquainted with that line sooner, than later.
kingsjester on December 26, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Oh the humanity!!! The Perot and Buchanan voters have been on the sidelines for years cause we aren’t that gullible. What did the choices you can vote for give you over the years? What is the national debt at? What did a Republican President and Congress give us? Methinks the Talk Radio right has completely lost any credibility on the what they preach…well not methinks, meknows.
LevStrauss on December 26, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Ron Paul knew the newsletters existed, just not that the bad 10 passages over the ten years had been written. It was a side business with independent management while he was back practicing medicine. And everyone who hates Ron, including Dondero who has no earthly claim to fame EXCEPT hating Ron (who fired him years ago) is using this to hint or state that Ron Paul is racist. They know that isn’t so, and that is pretty trashy imho.
Tell me, whomever you support as a candidate, where was the day upon week outrage over Gingrich calling Spanish ‘the language of the ghetto’? That wasn’t 20 years ago, and wasn’t by someone else. Yet for some reason no one raises it.
There is nothing ‘bad’ Ron Paul has done to be shown, so they go after people who support HIM (not people HE supports) etc. That is actually a testimony to his character that this was all Rove could find when Paul was running against the Bush endorsed incumbent congressmen in the 1990s. (Mind you, the people in Ron Paul’s district knew him better than to think the newsletters reflected him, and Ron Paul was elected anyhow.)
windwardtack on December 26, 2011 at 12:47 PM
Yeah, the man who signed the bill into law that made Martin Luther King Day a national holiday was a racist.
Nice try champ.
Flora Duh on December 26, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Disagree. That’s called defense. As in, a stitch in time saves nine!
AZgranny on December 26, 2011 at 12:51 PM
novaculus wrote:
What business is it of yours (or the country) to take a hard line on Islam? Do you believe that it is your job to dictate to people what their religion should be and how they should live their lives?
novaculus wrote:
Many of the Hot Air posters are advocating for another war in the Middle East based on the premise that Iran is willing to commit an act of national suicide by deploying a nuclear weapon against US or Israel. I would think that the intelligent Hot Airheads would know that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad cannot make such a decision in a vacuum. The basic premise many Hot Airheads have is that a vast majority of the Iranian population is willing to commit an act national suicide just to take out Israel and the US.
novaculus wrote:
And many Hot Airheads here (I don’t know if you should be included) advocate harsh economic sanctions against Iran as means of thwarting their alleged nuclear ambitions. Last time I checked, economic sanctions has far more of an impact to general population than it does to the leadership. Most Hot Airheads would impose economic sanctions in perpetuity without the least bit of concern about the plight of the people of Iran. Mind you, economic sanctions is the most benign “solution” that the Hot Airheads have proposed. War in Iran would adversely impact almost all Iranians. Believe it or not, war causes death and destruction not only to the supposed bad guys
but also to the people of Iran.
Sorry, try again
antifederalist on December 26, 2011 at 12:54 PM
rudiddingme:
Are you implying, with the statement “Except for that baby left in the bucket,” that Ron Paul is an abortionist, or supports abortion?
Ron Paul is staunchly anti-abortion, has never performed an abortion, and has stated publicly that Roe vs. Wade is a “mistake”, and has said that, as an OB/GYN, he has never seen a case where an abortion was necessary to save the life of the mother.
If you are going to attack the guy, don’t make stuff up.
Mr. Arkadin on December 26, 2011 at 12:55 PM
The ’90s nutjob has morphed into the ’11 lying nutjob. The establishment has already chosen our nominee, anyways.
Kissmygrits on December 26, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Yeah, the man who signed a bill into law that made MLK’s birthday a national holiday was a racist.
Nice try Champ.
Flora Duh on December 26, 2011 at 12:58 PM
Iv’e said it before and I’ll say it again, most of the Ron Paul supporters agree with these positions and will defend him to the bitter end. Sick.
D-fusit on December 26, 2011 at 1:02 PM
Ron Paul advocates using hemp-based cloth for the sails on all our navy ships.
Just don’t use them hegemonically against any poor Barbary pirates.
profitsbeard on December 26, 2011 at 1:05 PM
ROTFLMAO… The Ronulians animus is puckered and swollen here today. Yes, they have been exposed as White Supremacist Anti-Semitic Conspiracy idiots, and that is what has them running around like idiots with their a$$es on fire.
SWalker on December 26, 2011 at 1:05 PM
More false equivalence. Romney did not have his name attached, as the author of those “early racist teachings.” Got any more red herrings you’d like to toss out?
JannyMae on December 26, 2011 at 1:13 PM
No.
Merely stating that he delivers babies for a living, except for that baby left in the bucket.
That explains why he left that baby in the bucket.
I’m not.
rukiddingme on December 26, 2011 at 1:14 PM
SWalker, strawmen and red herrings (and their hatred)is all they have.
D-fusit on December 26, 2011 at 1:15 PM
We are still left with only a few choices here.
1. Ron Paul didn’t write or read the newsletters, which would make him extremely irresponsible in letting them go out under his name.
2. Ron Paul did write the newsletters, and now is simply LYING to everyone to try and cover his ass.
3. Ron Paul wrote some of the letters, and was not aware of the radical writings in the “offending passages,” which refers us back to possibility number one, of him being irresponsible in letting newsletters he didn’t write go out under his name.
I’m sorry, Paultards, you can try and spin this any way you want it. Sane people aren’t buying it.
JannyMae on December 26, 2011 at 1:20 PM
So therefore most Ron Paul supporters raaaacist (it doesn’t take long for so called conservatives to adopt the left’s tactics when it suits them)
What I think many of us Paultards/Paulbots can understand that the worst accusation made against Ron Paul is that he included some racially insensitive remarks in a newsletter 20 years ago. A lot of us know that having negative thoughts about people of another race is not an unpardonable sin. The Left has been successful in convincing people that it is (which is obvious when you read the comments by Hot Airheads) but it is not. Furthermore, Ron Paul himself has disavowed these remarks. If Ron Paul held such views they should also be reflected in his many public speeches but as of yet no one has found any video or audio where he makes racists comments. Many of us Paultards/Paulbots like Ron Paul because he is an advocate of peace. From what I can tell, Ron Paul could hardly hurt a fly. For example, Ron Paul has become an opponent of the death penalty. If Ron Paul were as racist as the Hot Airheads have made him out to be, he would be the foremost advocate of the death penalty since a disproportionate number of black people on death row. A racist worth his salt would not hesitate to execute/euthanize a black person when given the opportunity. Also, Ron Paul has been an opponent of imposing economic sanctions and waging war against brown skin people across the globe (unlike the Hot Airheads here). If Ron Paul is a racist, he really isn’t good at it.
antifederalist on December 26, 2011 at 1:28 PM
So we should ignore the threat of an evil totalitarian ideology that has been at war with the rest of mankind since its establishment fourteen centuries ago? This evil ideology whose adherents have arguably been responsible for more bloodshed and human suffering than any other identifiable group in the history of mankind is none of our business?
Islamism is evil. One of our first conflicts as a nation was with Islamist enemies who preyed upon our shipping, plundering our ships and murdering and making slaves of our people. These acts of war were specifically justified by reference to Islamist principles by those who were committing the atrocities.
Not too long ago, Islamist terrorists murdered thousands of innocents within the boundaries of our own country. (Perhaps you have forgotten.) This act of war was again specifically justified by reference to Islamist principles.
Islam promotes and justifies the vilest forms of human wickedness, racial and gender bigotry, murder and slavery and compulsion and war, and dresses it all in the veils of religion. The Islamists have chosen to make their evil my business by inflicting their evil on my people, and by my people, I mean every single human soul who has the decency to accept as a basic principle the notion of live and let live.
As for the rest, you go on to once again engage in broad characterizations of dubious validity, both about the membership here and their views.
Your preposterous suggestion that decent people around the world have no business criticizing the evil that is Islamism makes your utter foolishness apparent. Your ongoing smearing of the membership makes your trollish intentions apparent.
I will waste no more time on you, and I recommend the good people here ignore you as well.
novaculus on December 26, 2011 at 1:29 PM
If sitting around and ignoring threats from other countries, until they attack us is conservative foreign policy, then I guess that makes me a “warmonger,” because there is no grey area for you pacifist wackos. There is “your way” or “perpetual war.” That’s why you have no credibility in attacking anyone else’s view on national defense.
I love watching you Paul supporters claim that Ron Paul would defend this country, while at the same time your ilk pretends that there is no threat from worldwide islamic terrorism. We were attacked on our soil on 9/11, and we continue to fight terrorists worldwide. We can’t make friends with maniacal dictators who threaten us. That is Ron Paul’s foreign policy. He’s crazy, and so are you. He is not conservative on foreign policy. He’s suicidal. I don’t support “war,” unless it’s necessary. That’s national defense, as mandated by “The Constitution.” The founders would’ve agreed with me, not lunatic Dr. Paul.
JannyMae on December 26, 2011 at 1:30 PM
Strike 4…..
Nice piece on Paul by ex-staffer….
Final Nail in the coffin for me…and to think I WAS going to vote for this man..Oh my flippin god!!
coach1228 on December 26, 2011 at 1:30 PM
WOW!!! On one article you show Americans want a major reduction in size of government and than in another article you try to discredit and destroy the ONLY CANDIDATE that has a plan to do what a majority of Americans want!
Ron Paul is the only candidate that has a plan that will deal with this National Threat!
1. Eliminate the Personel Income Tax and replace it with government cuts
2. Eliminate the IRS & FED Reserve
3. Put us on a market driven gold standard
4. Cut 5 departments of government.
5. Eliminate the EPA
6. We’re spending to much on defending every country around the world. Ron will cut our military buget to $500 billion so that we can defend our country and secure our boarders.
7. He will eliminate Obamacare and replace it with a true free market.
8. He will cut TSA and have the private sector handle airport security.
Rush Limbaugh endorses Ron Paul plan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t96QPXbA0g
Capitalist75 on December 26, 2011 at 1:33 PM
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