Quotes of the day

posted at 8:00 pm on December 24, 2011 by Allahpundit

“Vice President Joe Biden unleashed a biting critique of Mitt Romney’s policies Friday and the Republican came swiftly back at him – a full-contact preview of what the general election might look like should Romney win the GOP nomination to challenge President Barack Obama…

“In essentially placing its bets on Romney, the Obama camp elevated his stature in the race, particularly in Iowa where he is running neck-and-neck with Gingrich and Texas congressman Ron Paul.

“Romney was clearly ready – and eager – to engage with the White House. While he generally has to be asked, or even pressed, to criticize Gingrich, he hit back at Biden at the first opportunity.

“‘I think they realize what’s coming,’ he said. ‘I hope they’re right. I hope I’m the nominee.’”

***

“Mitt Romney is set to close out the fourth fundraising quarter of the year with his largest haul yet of at least $20 million, several fundraising sources told POLITICO…

“While there is still a week left in the quarter, high-dollar fundraising is essentially finished for the season thanks to the holidays — and Romney is closing strong…

“Instead of the Newt Gingrich surge prompting donors to hesitate, it impelled them to give more, two sources said, mirroring fear among establishment Republicans of the former House speaker capturing the nomination.”

***

“The sense had been growing that the GOP race was effectively over barring a major surprise in Iowa from Rick Perry or Rick Santorum, but this news out of Virginia is very revealing about the lack of general election preparedness of every organization except Team Romney. The only thing that the president has going for him is a political organization honed by a half-dozen years in the field and a well-refined ruthlessness when it comes to tactics. It is hard to imagine an organization that cannot gather 10,000 signatures over many months staying on the field with the Chicago gang much less outmaneuvering them in the week to week battles of the year ahead.

“Fence sitters among the electeds who were waiting to see if there would be a prolonged contest have got to be spending their Christmas Eves wrapping gifts and considering that Mitt Romney has this campaign in hand and that a quick conclusion to the primary season would be in the interests of everyone. Watch for endorsements next week before Iowa caucuses and certainly before New Hampshire votes.”

***

“The irony is that Mr. Paul’s campaign may so far have made Mr. Romney’s path easier. It has released exceptionally effective commercials against Mr. Gingrich, while also feuding with Mrs. Bachmann. If Mr. Paul was a more traditional candidate, this strategy might make sense, since Mrs. Bachmann and especially Mr. Gingrich are threats to win Iowa. Weakening these candidates might also tend to help Mr. Romney, but that would not be Mr. Paul’s major concern.

“But Mr. Paul is an unusual candidate; his ability to influence the Republican race depends as much upon the order of finish among the rest of the candidates as how well he does for himself. If Mr. Romney finishes a strong second in Iowa behind Mr. Paul, for instance, that showing will be in line with expectations — enough so that Mr. Romney will probably not relinquish his 17-point lead in New Hampshire and should book a solid win there. That would put Mr. Romney on the inside track for the nomination, with Mr. Paul proving to be little more than a footnote.”

***

“Some voters, however, weren’t overly impressed with Romney’s standing in the state.

“‘Of course, he’s going to win here,’ said Concord’s Deb Jacobs. ‘So what? The story would be if he lost. He’s been here for years. And all those other jokers — you can call them candidates — have made sure he won’t lose.’”

***

“Earlier this year, I asked Santorum why he didn’t push smaller government principles more aggressively during the Bush era, and he told me: ‘I could only go so far because we didn’t have a Tea Party movement that was moving the country in that direction.’

“It wasn’t until 2009 and 2010 that candidates who represented the post-bank bailout, purified GOP, began getting elected. And because it takes time for politicians to mature into credible presidential candidates, none of them were ready to run in 2012.

“So the root of the frustration that many conservatives are feeling right now is that philosophically, they are a several election cycles ahead of the available pool of GOP presidential candidates. And they have Bush to blame for that.”

***

“What about his reform principles? Mr. Romney talks only in general terms. ‘Moving to a consumption-based system is something which is very attractive to me philosophically, but I’ve not been able to sufficiently model it out to jump on board a consumption-based tax. A flat tax, a true flat tax is also attractive to me. What I like—I mean, I like the simplification of a flat tax. I also like removing the distortion in our tax code for certain classes of investment. And the advantage of a flat tax is getting rid of some of those distortions.’

“Since Mr. Romney mentioned a consumption tax, would he rule out a value-added tax?

“He says he doesn’t “like the idea” of layering a VAT onto the current income tax system. But he adds that, philosophically speaking, a VAT might work as a replacement for some part of the tax code, ‘particularly at the corporate level,’ as Paul Ryan proposed several years ago. What he doesn’t do is rule a VAT out.”

***

“‘There’s nothing new about politicians making promises they are in no position to keep. Herbert Hoover’s 1928 campaign promised a ‘chicken in every pot and a car in every backyard, to boot.’ Michele Bachmann is promising $2 a gallon gasoline. President Obama promised ‘hope and change.’

“But when it comes to political pandering, it’s hard to beat a promise Mitt Romney made on Thursday in New Hampshire to a 21-year-old college student named Kallie Durkit, who wanted to know why college students should support Romney instead of Obama.

“‘What I can promise you is this – when you get out of college, if I’m president you’ll have a job. If President Obama is reelected, you will not be able to get a job,’ Romney said.”

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hillbillyjim on December 24, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Thank you my friend. Good to see everyone tonight…

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2011 at 10:25 PM

I hope conservatives in Virginia will hold their noses if necessary and vote for Ron Paul to help stop Romney.

FloatingRock on December 24, 2011 at 10:25 PM

sharrukin on December 24, 2011 at 10:13 PM

Merry Christmas to all of you here for making me feel so welcomed. But a special thank you to you sharrukin. You were the first to ever send a kind word my way. My hope is that you have a lovely holiday filled with all the best things life has to offer. Thanks sharrukin! Happiest of holidays!

Bmore on December 24, 2011 at 10:27 PM

In case,you missed the Comet Lovejoy Drama’s Suicidal Dive
towards the Sun!!
=================
=================

BIG COMET PLUNGES TOWARD THE SUN: Comet Lovejoy (C/2011 W3) is diving into the sun and furiously vaporizing as it approaches the stellar surface. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) is recording the kamikaze plunge:(Video)

http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=15&month=12&year=2011
********************************

COMET LOVEJOY SURVIVES: Incredibly, sungrazing Comet Lovejoy has survived its close encounter with the sun. Lovejoy flew only 140,000 km over the stellar surface during the early hours of Dec. 16th. Experts expected the icy sundiver to be destroyed. Instead, NASA’s Solar Dynamics Observatory caught the comet emerging from perihelion (closest approach) apparently intact:(Video)

http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=16&month=12&year=2011
********************************

CONTINUED ADVENTURES OF COMET LOVEJOY: The scorched core of sungrazing Comet Lovejoy is still intact as it recedes from the sun. Even the comet’s flamboyant tail, temporarily lost in transit through the solar corona, has regrown. Click to view the last 24 hours of coronagraph images from the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO):(Video)

http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=17&month=12&year=2011
*********************************

COMET LOVEJOY FROM ORBIT: Veteran astronaut Dan Burbank has seen many amazing things. Once, he even flew through the aurora borealis. So when Burbank says “[Comet Lovejoy] is the most amazing thing I have ever seen in space,” it really means something. Currently serving onboard the International Space Station, Burbank photographed the sungrazing comet on Dec. 21st, an experience he describes in this (NASA video)

http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=23&month=12&year=2011
**********************************

‘The most amazing thing I’ve ever seen in space’: Incredible pictures of Comet Lovejoy taken by Space Station commander
_
Last week Lovejoy came within 87,000 miles of the Sun’s 5700C surface
Last updated at 11:46 AM on 23rd December 2011

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2077919/Incredible-pictures-Comet-Lovejoy-taken-Space-Station-commander.html
**********************************************************

canopfor on December 24, 2011 at 10:29 PM

A Soldier’s Night Before Christmas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdEFaOoSBsw&feature=related

predator on December 24, 2011 at 10:29 PM

I hope conservatives in Virginia will hold their noses if necessary and vote for Ron Paul to help stop Romney.

FloatingRock on December 24, 2011 at 10:25 PM

You’d rather have Herr Doktor than The Rom-in-ater? God help us all…

gryphon202 on December 24, 2011 at 10:31 PM

Hi McDuck, it doesn’t help Huntsman’s case when you bring up the “science” bit, and the quotes around science are meant to be there.

On the other hand, I agree otherwise with you. By the way, this recent poll indicates that only 19% of Republicans believe in mann-made global warming. Only 11% of Tea Partiers believe the scam. So… you seem to be trying to help Huntsman, but reminding voters of the “science” issue won’t help. I personally think Huntsman will ultimately see what clearly an overwhelming majority of the rest of party already sees. If he could express this more clearly to the R voters, that would be good, helpful.

anotherJoe on December 24, 2011 at 10:32 PM

I hope conservatives in Virginia will hold their noses if necessary and vote for Ron Paul to help stop Romney.

FloatingRock on December 24, 2011 at 10:25 PM

When it’s all said and done, and the only two options for me are Romney and Paul, then pulling the lever for Paul is a no-brainer.

Spliff Menendez on December 24, 2011 at 10:32 PM

When it’s all said and done, and the only two options for me are Romney and Paul, then pulling the lever for Paul is a no-brainer.

Spliff Menendez on December 24, 2011 at 10:32 PM

If by “no-brainer,” it means you don’t use your brain in making that decision, then I heartily agree.

gryphon202 on December 24, 2011 at 10:33 PM

A Soldier’s Night Before Christmas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdEFaOoSBsw&feature=related

predator on December 24, 2011 at 10:29 PM

Thank you for this. Just. . . thank you.

Merry Christmas to all, but most especially those who guard our freedoms.

Flotsam Jetsome on December 24, 2011 at 10:37 PM

Merry Christmas to all of you here for making me feel so welcomed. But a special thank you to you sharrukin. You were the first to ever send a kind word my way. My hope is that you have a lovely holiday filled with all the best things life has to offer. Thanks sharrukin! Happiest of holidays!

Bmore on December 24, 2011 at 10:27 PM

Merry Christmas to you as well. Open registration brought in some bad, but also brought in some posters with intelligent new perspectives like you. I am spending Christmas watching some little ones tear open presents and that always makes it special.

sharrukin on December 24, 2011 at 10:40 PM

Merry Christmas all.

Hog Wild on December 24, 2011 at 10:40 PM

Ugh,try dis again!
——————

In case you missed Comet Lovejoy’s Suicidal
Dance Dive towards the Sun Soap Opera!
=======================================

BIG COMET PLUNGES TOWARD THE SUN: Comet Lovejoy (C/2011 W3) is diving into the sun and furiously vaporizing as it approaches the stellar surface. The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) is recording the kamikaze plunge:

http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=15&month=12&year=2011
*********************************

COMET LOVEJOY SURVIVES: Incredibly, sungrazing Comet Lovejoy has survived its close encounter with the sun. Lovejoy flew only 140,000 km over the stellar surface during the early hours of Dec. 16th. Experts expected the icy sundiver to be destroyed. Instead, NASA’s Solar Dynamics Observatory caught the comet emerging from perihelion (closest approach) apparently intact:(Video)

http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=16&month=12&year=2011
*********************************

CONTINUED ADVENTURES OF COMET LOVEJOY: The scorched core of sungrazing Comet Lovejoy is still intact as it recedes from the sun. Even the comet’s flamboyant tail, temporarily lost in transit through the solar corona, has regrown. Click to view the last 24 hours of coronagraph images from the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO):(Video)

http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=17&month=12&year=2011
********************************

canopfor on December 24, 2011 at 10:41 PM

…pulling the lever for Paul is a for no-brainer.

Spliff Menendez on December 24, 2011 at 10:32 PM

galtani on December 24, 2011 at 10:43 PM

I hate to say it, but if it were a 2 man race, Huntsman would be a lot better than Romney.

anotherJoe on December 24, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Maybe if Ron Paul wins Iowa and NH the establishment will finally abandon Romney and swing behind Huntsman. Stranger things have happened.

FloatingRock on December 24, 2011 at 10:43 PM

B.E. Taylor’s “We Three Kings”

and

“Hark the Herald Angels Sing”

Yes, I’m addicted to both of his Christmas CDs!

Aslans Girl on December 24, 2011 at 10:44 PM

Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aevy8jIBZmM

predator on December 24, 2011 at 10:46 PM

And,Lovejoy Part 2!
===================

COMET LOVEJOY FROM ORBIT: Veteran astronaut Dan Burbank has seen many amazing things. Once, he even flew through the aurora borealis. So when Burbank says “[Comet Lovejoy] is the most amazing thing I have ever seen in space,” it really means something. Currently serving onboard the International Space Station, Burbank photographed the sungrazing comet on Dec. 21st, an experience he describes in this NASA video:

http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=23&month=12&year=2011
********************************

‘The most amazing thing I’ve ever seen in space’:

Incredible pictures of Comet Lovejoy taken by Space Station commander
Last week Lovejoy came within 87,000 miles of the Sun’s 5700C surface
Last updated at 11:46 AM on 23rd December 2011

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2077919/Incredible-pictures-Comet-Lovejoy-taken-Space-Station-commander.html
*********************************************************

canopfor on December 24, 2011 at 10:46 PM

I think it’s important to realize a few things. Romney was always going to be the nominee. Especially when Thune, Daniels, Barbour, Huckabee and Ryan said no.

The little game of running these other people up the flagpole was …a game. If you believed it. If say, you actually thought Cain was for real, then the joke’s on you.

So, Romney will be the nominee, not Perry, not Newt. It will be the Mormon Flip Flopper.

If you were around in 1980, Reagan was considered worse and called worse things, he was a joke to the MSM. Let’s hope Mitt has some Dutch in him. An Ace in the hole if you will. If the Conservative Media and Talk Radio dial down enthusiasm, well then a loss will be on them.

President Obama is a disaster. All hands on deck.

AYNBLAND on December 24, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Merry Christmas to all, but most especially those who guard our freedoms.

Flotsam Jetsome on December 24, 2011 at 10:37 PM

And Merry Christmas to you and yours. May your New Year be filled with bounty and joy. God Bless.

predator on December 24, 2011 at 10:47 PM

President Obama is a disaster. All hands on deck.

AYNBLAND on December 24, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Nope. Paddle your own boat.

sharrukin on December 24, 2011 at 10:50 PM

canopfor on December 24, 2011 at __:__PM
A big, fat happy Christmas to you and to yours, canopfor.

May the Lord bless you and keep you, and may He rain blessings upon you the whole year long. Stay well, friend. BTW, thanks for keeping us smiling, especially when there is little reason but for friends like yourself. Cheers!

hillbillyjim on December 24, 2011 at 10:09 PM

hillbillyjim:Merry Christmas HBJ,it could be worse,ahem!:)
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Jib Jab: Goodbye to 2011
John on December 23, 2011 at 2:28 pm
*************************************

This year really does seem crazier than most:

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=35875

canopfor on December 24, 2011 at 10:50 PM

“O Holy Night” is one of my favorite, and I think the most beautiful, of all carols. B.E. Taylor’s is my favorite version, it’s so heartfelt and emotional. Hope you like it, too :)

Aslans Girl on December 24, 2011 at 10:51 PM

You’d rather have Herr Doktor than The Rom-in-ater? God help us all…

gryphon202 on December 24, 2011 at 10:31 PM

Heck yeah! I may not like his foreign policy but this is about freedom verses tyranny. Romneycare/Obamacare, I will not vote for anybody that supports unconstitutional individual mandates, and if the SCOTUS rules it constitutional then all the more reason to vote for Ron Paul.

FloatingRock on December 24, 2011 at 10:51 PM

TWER THE NITE B’FOR CHRISTMAS IN POSSUM HOLLER.

PappyD61 on December 24, 2011 at 10:13 PM

PappyD61:Lol,nicely done————-:)

canopfor on December 24, 2011 at 10:54 PM

canopfor on December 24, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Those were amazing. So, this thing’s not now on an altered orbit that brings it by here again in say, late December 2012 is it? ;)

Flotsam Jetsome on December 24, 2011 at 10:55 PM

Merry Christmas to all.

After seeing Gingrich and Huntsman debate, I would take Huntsman over Romney any day.

kmr1964 on December 24, 2011 at 10:56 PM

P.S. @hawkdriver: if you’re in there,

hillbillyjim on December 24, 2011 at 10:20 PM

hillbillyjim:Amen on that HBJ,and,Entelechy,where ever you might
be:)

canopfor on December 24, 2011 at 10:57 PM

Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night.

Predator–out.

predator on December 24, 2011 at 11:01 PM

I’m as rabidly anti-Romney as anyone, but Ron Paul would be even worse.

All that VA has accomplished it to make themselves irrelevant in this presidential election cycle. If they get their act together maybe they can play next time.

Citizen-003528 on December 24, 2011 at 11:04 PM

canopfor on December 24, 2011 at 10:46 PM
Those were amazing. So, this thing’s not now on an altered orbit that brings it by here again in say, late December 2012 is it? ;)

Flotsam Jetsome on December 24, 2011 at 10:55 PM

Flotsam Jetsome:Ugh,2012,could be,I might as well post this too!:)
==================================================================

CHRISTMAS EVE ERUPTION: A filament of magnetism connected to sunspot AR1386 erupted during the early hours of Dec. 24th. Extreme UV-wavelength cameras onboard the Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the picturesque blast:

The C5-class eruption hurled a billion-ton coronal mass ejection (CME) into space, but not toward Earth. With the cloud sailing wide-left of our planet, Christmas geomagnetic storms are unlikely. Nevertheless, this active region merits watching as it turns toward Earth in the days ahead, possibly positioning itself for the first storms of 2012.(Video)
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http://www.spaceweather.com/

canopfor on December 24, 2011 at 11:04 PM

Otay,getting late,night all,and Merry Christmas!:)

canopfor on December 24, 2011 at 11:06 PM

predator on December 24, 2011 at 11:01 PM

G’night and Merry Christmas!

Aslans Girl on December 24, 2011 at 11:06 PM

Merry Christmas and happy holidays everybody!

FloatingRock on December 24, 2011 at 11:06 PM

canopfor on December 24, 2011 at 11:06 PM

Goodnight and Merry Christmas, canopfor! I had read about Comet Lovejoy recently and thought it was the neatest thing!

Aslans Girl on December 24, 2011 at 11:07 PM

President Obama is a disaster. All hands on deck.

AYNBLAND on December 24, 2011 at 10:47 PM
Nope. Paddle your own boat.

sharrukin on December 24, 2011 at 10:50 PM

It’s my 7 year old daughter’s boat. It’s alot more important than your purity tests.

AYNBLAND on December 24, 2011 at 11:09 PM

sharrukin on December 24, 2011 at 10:40 PM

Sweet!

Bmore on December 24, 2011 at 11:16 PM

Goodnight and Merry Christmas, canopfor! I had read about Comet Lovejoy recently and thought it was the neatest thing!

Aslans Girl on December 24, 2011 at 11:07 PM

Merry Christmas Aslans Girl…I have enjoyed your posts on Perry during this year, and I know it has been rough. You have provided some great tunes tonight.

Stray Cat on December 24, 2011 at 11:16 PM

And many thanks to AP, Ed, Tina and Jazz for their tireless efforts in doing the job that the MSM refuses to do.

TxAnn56 on December 24, 2011 at 9:39 PM

I second that.

Merry Christmas to you!

Flora Duh on December 24, 2011 at 11:17 PM

Before I go to the Great White Biscuit that is my bed tonight, my family all tucked in and ready for the Christmas fun tomorrow morning, I wanted to say Merry Christmas to our troops on assignment and to their families. They are all our heroes.

Tonight you all may be far apart from each other, but please know that you are closer than maybe ever you will be to each others’ hearts.

What you men and women do for us, those in our service and those who await them at home, and what you sacrifice particularly this time of year, there’s nothing the rest of us could ever do to match that.

So, please, take our humble wish for a Merry Christmas to you and yours, as well as two other words that come from our hearts as well: Thank You!

TXUS on December 24, 2011 at 11:17 PM

A very Merry Christmas to all! You enrich my life immensely!

G’night, see you Monday.

herm2416 on December 24, 2011 at 11:19 PM

It’s my 7 year old daughter’s boat. It’s alot more important than your purity tests.

AYNBLAND on December 24, 2011 at 11:09 PM

If you thought it to be so important then you should have supported someone that would appeal to the base voter. Seems your purity test mattered more.

sharrukin on December 24, 2011 at 11:21 PM

One of my favorite Christmas tunes by one of my very favorite singers.

Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas

Flora Duh on December 24, 2011 at 11:26 PM

Quote of the day, “Lions are in the playoffs!”. Oh and “Merry Christmas”, it’s a tie.

Flange on December 24, 2011 at 11:28 PM

I’m as rabidly anti-Romney as anyone, but Ron Paul would be even worse.

All that VA has accomplished it to make themselves irrelevant in this presidential election cycle. If they get their act together maybe they can play next time.

Why would you blame Virginia for Gingrich and Perry failing to meet the requirements? Its Gingrich and Perry that have made themselves irrelevant through incompetence and disorganization. They are not presidential quality candidates bottom line, they cant get it done.

kmalkows on December 24, 2011 at 11:29 PM

I hope conservatives in Virginia will hold their noses if necessary and vote for Ron Paul to help stop Romney.

FloatingRock on December 24, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Your hatred of Romney has made you incapable of any reason. Keep living in your la-la-land. Much of the Virginian economy is dependent on military contracts, and you think they’re going to go for Ron Paul in a vain attempt to spite Romney? Take a cold shower and wake the hell up.

haner on December 24, 2011 at 11:31 PM

Your hatred of Romney has made you incapable of any reason. Keep living in your la-la-land. Much of the Virginian economy is dependent on military contracts, and you think they’re going to go for Ron Paul in a vain attempt to spite Romney? Take a cold shower and wake the hell up.

haner on December 24, 2011 at 11:31 PM

People may realize that anyone is a better choice than Romney, even Ron Paul. If you think that a crypto-Marxist like Romney won’t slash the heck out of the defense budget, possibly even more than Paul, you are delusional.

CorporatePiggy on December 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM

I hope conservatives in Virginia will hold their noses if necessary and vote for Ron Paul to help stop Romney.

FloatingRock on December 24, 2011 at 10:25 PM

I don’t know why anyone would think this seems like a sound conservative strategy: vote for the crazy racist fringe libertarian in order to stop the moderate Northeastern Republican.

If Ron Paul wins any state primaries, the Republican Party will suffer a serious blow to its credibility–and rightfully so. Who would want to vote for the candidate of a party that gave serious consideration to an addled, drooling bigot and conspiracy theorist who believes, among other things, that water fluoridation is a government-orchestrated mind control program? Or that the mad mullahs of Iran are victims of a Zionist-controlled New World Order? Or that the intent of a fence along the Mexican border would be to keep us in?

Ron Paul is clearly, obviously mentally unstable in a dark, scary kind of way, and I simply cannot understand why his more rational true believers didn’t come to a collective ‘what have I done’ epiphany when the first of his old newsletters became available for public review.

troyriser_gopftw on December 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM

It’s great to see Omaha conservative back.

celtic warrior on December 24, 2011 at 11:49 PM

It’s my 7 year old daughter’s boat. It’s alot more important than your purity tests.

AYNBLAND on December 24, 2011 at 11:09 PM
If you thought it to be so important then you should have supported someone that would appeal to the base voter. Seems your purity test mattered more.

sharrukin on December 24, 2011 at 11:21 PM

The base is juiced up by talk radio and those same hosts said Romney was “the conservative” in 2008. It’s on them, if he loses. It’s on all of you who listen and regurgitate their talking points.

Time to ante up.

AYNBLAND on December 25, 2011 at 12:00 AM

Ron Paul is nothing. Conservatives are not picking the nominee either.

The only one that can take Romney out is Romney.

Moesart on December 25, 2011 at 12:04 AM

haner on December 24, 2011 at 11:31 PM

I sympathize with them. They have switched from candidate to candidate in the hopes one of them would be able to get more support than Romney. In each and every instance each candidate went up against Romney and he prevailed. Now there is no one left and they just cannot bring themselves to accept that Romney has more support from the GOP than they can admit. So, they act out irrationally.

It’ll be okay. By the time November comes around, they’ll calm down and support Romney. We just need to be patient with them.

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:04 AM

If the Conservative Media and Talk Radio dial down enthusiasm, well then a loss will be on them.

President Obama is a disaster. All hands on deck.

AYNBLAND on December 24, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Dial down the enthusiasm? You appear to feel that the valid concerns of conservatives about Romney are trivial and superficial and can just be dialed up or down at the whim of—’thought leaders’, I believe people like you like to call them.

Your condescension is duly noted. In my case the answer is; no, I will not vote for your big-gov progressive authoritarian flip flopper that supports unconstitutional individual mandates and ran to the left of Ted Kennedy. Also, I will not support the favored candidate of condescending jerks like you.

FloatingRock on December 25, 2011 at 12:05 AM

If you think that a crypto-Marxist like Romney won’t slash the heck out of the defense budget, possibly even more than Paul, you are delusional.

CorporatePiggy on December 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM

You don’t have one single shred of evidence of that. Not one.

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:06 AM

supports unconstitutional individual mandates and ran to the left of Ted Kennedy. Also, I will not support the favored candidate of condescending jerks like you.

FloatingRock on December 25, 2011 at 12:05 AM

WRONG! Romney NEVER supported an unconstitutional individual mandate. NEVER. Gingrich did!

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:08 AM

I hope conservatives in Virginia will hold their noses if necessary and vote for Ron Paul to help stop Romney.

Why would anyone hope for that kind of asinine, self-defeating behavior?

As for the desperate “maybe Huntsman?” reaching going on in these parts – Huntsman is Romney Lite, in every sense. He comes from even greater privilege but took the easiest possible path at all stages – did one easy college degree, instantly took a political job that his Dad’s money helped him get, then went to work at his Dad’s company, then ran for governor in a state where he couldn’t lose with his name and his family’s financial position.

Romney’s public and private careers both stand in sharp contrast to Huntsman in that he did everything hard – Huntsman did everything easy.

Facing the challenges America faces right now I want someone who knows what it’s like to take the difficult road.

InVinoVeritas on December 25, 2011 at 12:08 AM

Vote for Romney! Recommended by condescending jerks everywhere!

FloatingRock on December 25, 2011 at 12:08 AM

So you’re telling me Ron Paul in your opinion is a better conservative?

Ruiner on December 24, 2011 at 8:43 PM

Unlike Mitt, Herr Doktor actually is a conservative. You may argue that he is a senile loon, a racist, and a conspiracy theorist, but his fiscal and social conservative cred is unquestionable.

Archivarix on December 25, 2011 at 12:09 AM

WRONG! Romney NEVER supported an unconstitutional individual mandate. NEVER. Gingrich did!

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:08 AM

Like anybody here is going to believe that drivel. Romney and Newt are both on record supporting it and in fact it’s the central component of Romneycare.

FloatingRock on December 25, 2011 at 12:10 AM

There will be a lot of HA folks with their noses completely out of joint if Romney takes Iowa and wraps it up in short order….

Even with all the delegates counted some will be crying “brokered convention…”
As for Paul he needs to be shown the door just as Duke was sometime back…

Bradky on December 25, 2011 at 12:11 AM

The base is juiced up by talk radio and those same hosts said Romney was “the conservative” in 2008. It’s on them, if he loses. It’s on all of you who listen and regurgitate their talking points.

They tried that in 2008 and it didn’t work then and it won’t work now. John McCain was one of the worst candidates they could have chosen, despised by the base and poor on the economy, and Romney couldn’t even beat him.

If you want to start blaming conservatives early for the Romney disaster, well go ahead. Consider it a Christmas gift. Playing the lesser of two evils game, and trying to motivate conservatives by shaking the scary Obama doll in their direction isn’t going to work again.

Time to ante up.

AYNBLAND on December 25, 2011 at 12:00 AM

I hope Obama wins and I hope the GOP is utterly destroyed in 2012. I hope they cease to exist as a party and an actual conservative party rises from the ruins. I fail to see any difference between Obama and Romney. They are just varying shades of the same failed nanny state ideology. If European style ‘conservatism’ is what the GOP wants to be then they can find their votes among the moderates and the liberals.

Jack Daniels 2012

sharrukin on December 25, 2011 at 12:16 AM

Romney and Newt are both on record supporting it and in fact it’s the central component of Romneycare.

FloatingRock on December 25, 2011 at 12:10 AM

LINK TO IT!

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:16 AM

LINK TO IT!

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:16 AM

Why? Everybody already knows what I’m talking about except you.

The mandate to buy insurance is how Romneycare/Obamacare are funded. Everybody knows that.

FloatingRock on December 25, 2011 at 12:18 AM

it is still Christmas Eve here…so I’ll just say, what if Romney becomes a very good President? He has the temperament…and he has the correct world view of America

And, just what if all the Rs have been listing to the left because they wanted to be the adults and get elected to protect America from the hard left…and now that the right is awakening..maybe, they’ll go Center Right, which is where there heart is?

Yeah, he doesn’t seem to have a lot of tv charisma, not the Celeb type…but you can keep that IMHO

r keller on December 25, 2011 at 12:19 AM

sharrukin on December 25, 2011 at 12:16 AM

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!

Please provide a photo of you hacking your nose off with a dull butter knife to spite Americans for not being as enlightened as you. We can always use a good laugh!

rotflmao!!!

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:20 AM

Why?

FloatingRock on December 25, 2011 at 12:18 AM

Because everyone knows that the individual mandate in MA is completely constitutional and Romney never supported a federal mandate.

So the entire group would like to know what you are talking about.

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:21 AM

He’s fully expecting the nomination to be handed to him, regardless of what the American people want, and that’s fine with him. He wants the presidency and that want has nothing to do with us. If we help him get it, fine, but if we don’t, well hey, he’s getting it anyway. We all might as well not even be here for this election cycle.

blackgriffin on December 25, 2011 at 12:22 AM

blackgriffin on December 25, 2011 at 12:22 AM

It’s okay. We understand. When you have recovered from your grief, we will welcome you back into the fold.

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:24 AM

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:21 AM

Romney thinks that the state has a right to force people to buy insurance. Whether it’s at the state or federal level makes little difference to me, that he supports it at all disqualifies him.

FloatingRock on December 25, 2011 at 12:28 AM

..the Boss Emritus and may God bless her quest for her missing cousin, Marizela Perez.

The War Planner on December 24, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Yes, prayers for Marizela Perez safe return!

Kini on December 25, 2011 at 12:29 AM

The Romney supporters in this thread are really being total obnoxious and running a victory lap far too early. If I based my decisions on emotions instead of reason, there is no way in heck I would feel good about supporting Romney in the general with comments like these being flung around. No class whatsoever.

McDuck on December 25, 2011 at 12:30 AM

CS deven: Silly. I’m not going to vote for Romney, no matter what. Lots of voters won’t do it, even to get rid of Obama. “Back into the fold?” Oh, my, I’m actually giggling at that. I was never in the fold. I’m an independent who voted Republican for the first time in 2008. I feel no loyalty to conservative or Dems. If you people insist on putting Romney up, I simply won’t vote. I refuse to be bullied into voting for someone I cannot stand. So, “understand” all you want. Waste of your time, really.

blackgriffin on December 25, 2011 at 12:32 AM

Romney thinks that the state has a right to force people to buy insurance. Whether it’s at the state or federal level makes little difference to me, that he supports it at all disqualifies him.

FloatingRock on December 25, 2011 at 12:28 AM

MR. GIBSON: (Off mike) — Governor Romney — (off mike) — mandate and that’s an obstacle, although you’ve backed away from mandates on a national basis. MR. ROMNEY: No, no, I like mandates.

Doubtless this week Romney’s story has changed.

sharrukin on December 25, 2011 at 12:32 AM

Yeah, the establishment GOP never has shafted us before.

Speakup on December 25, 2011 at 12:33 AM

Romney thinks that the state has a right to force people to buy insurance. Whether it’s at the state or federal level makes little difference to me, that he supports it at all disqualifies him.

FloatingRock on December 25, 2011 at 12:28 AM

The citizens of the state of MA gave that right to the state. Who are you to tell them otherwise?

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:33 AM

For all those happy with the 2 monthtax cut extension.

RickB on December 25, 2011 at 12:34 AM

blackgriffin on December 25, 2011 at 12:32 AM

have a tissue and go bury your head under the pillow

Bradky on December 25, 2011 at 12:36 AM

Lots of voters won’t do it,

blackgriffin on December 25, 2011 at 12:32 AM

Sure, “Lots”. That would include what, the hundred or so you interact with online? The polling proves you to be totally wrong. The vast majority of the GOP are going to turn out to vote JUST to get rid of Obama even if Romney is the nominee.

So you just enjoy your fantasy world. We’ll be waiting to welcome you back when you finally accept reality.

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:36 AM

sharrukin on December 25, 2011 at 12:32 AM

Provide the link to the entire interview and the context will prove you wrong.

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:38 AM

The citizens of the state of MA gave that right to the state. Who are you to tell them otherwise?

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:33 AM

I couldn’t care less. That Romney supports the idea that Government can force me to buy stuff rules him out completely in my estimation.

FloatingRock on December 25, 2011 at 12:39 AM

McDuck on December 25, 2011 at 12:30 AM

Don’t make the mistake the Palin worshipers made and think most of this is a victory lap. Most of this is putting a very fine point on the illogical rantings from those suffering from RDS.

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:40 AM

I couldn’t care less. That Romney supports the idea that Government can force me to buy stuff rules him out completely in my estimation.

FloatingRock on December 25, 2011 at 12:39 AM

Romney supported the demands of the people of MA. They wanted Masscare and Romney found a way to provide it for them in a way they were willing to sacrifice for.

And you should care if you want to be taken seriously around here.

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:41 AM

I couldn’t care less. That Romney supports the idea that Government can force me to buy stuff rules him out completely in my estimation.

FloatingRock on December 25, 2011 at 12:39 AM

translation: CUDA!

Bradky on December 25, 2011 at 12:42 AM

The citizens of the state of MA gave that right to the state. Who are you to tell them otherwise?

csdeven on December 25, 2011 at 12:33 AM

I’m sure glad I don’t have any ties to Massachusetts wherein my rights would have been taken by Romney and his authoritarian majority.

FloatingRock on December 25, 2011 at 12:44 AM

translation: CUDA!

Bradky on December 25, 2011 at 12:42 AM

I’m not a Palin supporter if that’s what you mean but I like her and haven’t participated in all the smears and slander that a lot of Romney people have.

FloatingRock on December 25, 2011 at 12:46 AM

cs deven: RDS. Hmmph. You’re really funny. And smart. Couching our very real policy differences in terms of emotional and mental instability. Why, of course, if we’re against Romney, it MUST be some deranged condition. Read carefully: I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR ROMNEY. Not even for the ABO crusaders. I refuse to be bullied into voting for a man I do not agree with and do not respect. That’s not negotiable. I’ve already decided not to vote at all. If Obama gets back in, the RNC has no one to blame but themselves. Too bad the rest of us have to suffer with them.

blackgriffin on December 25, 2011 at 12:49 AM

Merry Christmas canopfor..:)

Dire Straits on December 25, 2011 at 12:49 AM

Merry Christmas OC..Great to have you back posting..:)

Dire Straits on December 25, 2011 at 12:52 AM

translation: CUDA!

Bradky on December 25, 2011 at 12:42 AM

What is your point?

McDuck on December 25, 2011 at 12:52 AM

Romney can’t win. It’s that simple. And, he doesn’t deserve to win. He won’t have my vote. From what I’ve been reading on lots of sites, he won’t have a lot of Repub, conservative and independent votes. You Romney crushers might as well stop your strutting and smug mouthing off. You’re not going to change anyone’s mind that way. You just convince us we’re right.

blackgriffin on December 25, 2011 at 12:57 AM

Merry, Merry, pass the tequila. Wake me up this time next year, so I can shoot myself. Whether Zero or ZeRomney wins, we’re History.

Who is John Galt on December 25, 2011 at 1:05 AM

Grrr. It is a frustrating thing, coming to grips with inevitability.

Others in the Party who would have been serious contenders (Christie, Jindal, Ryan, more), they did not run, I think out of deference to Mitt, his money and his place next in line. Mitt is running against minor league talent and book hustlers. Not one opponent is stand-out Presidential.

Could Palin have become the anti-Mitt by now? Doesn’t matter. She did not run. Maybe SP wants future in the Party.

Republicans are typically very disciplined about this. Romney’s choice running mate selection will be important.

exdeadhead on December 25, 2011 at 1:06 AM

Unlike Mitt, Herr Doktor actually is a conservative. You may argue that he is a senile loon, a racist, and a conspiracy theorist, but his fiscal and social conservative cred is unquestionable.

Archivarix on December 25, 2011 at 12:09 AM

Ron Paul’s ‘fiscal’ cred? Did you read the Ron Paul solicitation letter where he warned people back about the evil of what he called “New Money”? That fiscal cred?

Ron Paul’s ‘social conservative’ cred? You’re talking about the same guy who thinks the Iranians are perfectly right and justified to pursue nuclear weapons because–according to Ron Paul–they’re being unfairly persecuted, the same guy who advertised newsletter subscriptions and fundraising appeals in Holocaust denier Willis Carto’s The Spotlight and Don Black’s Stormfront website, the same guy who sought Truther support? That guy? You call that a man with a balanced set of values and ethical sensibilities? Good men do good things. Cozying up to Holocaust deniers, Birchers, and Truthers is despicable behavior for a public servant (or anyone else).

Ron Paul is morally bankrupt and mentally unstable, unfit for public office at any level, and some of you want to make him president. What are you thinking? You cannot rationalize any of this, and if you agree with it–any of it–you don’t belong in the Republican Party. Go hang out on Stormfront or wherever and stop calling yourselves conservatives. You aren’t.

troyriser_gopftw on December 25, 2011 at 1:08 AM

Romney’s choice running mate selection will be important.

exdeadhead on December 25, 2011 at 1:06 AM

Not to me.

FloatingRock on December 25, 2011 at 1:11 AM

What a waste it is to lose one’s mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is.

Dan Quayle.

He must have been speaking about of the posters here, whose little closed mind is easy to lose, and hard to find.

galtani on December 25, 2011 at 1:13 AM

troyriser_gopftw on December 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM

In regards to the fence comment, this is rather surprising for me to read. When a country is on the path to totalitarianism, one of the first things it does is close it’s borders, to prevent capital and people from leaving. We live in an age of an ever expanding federal government. Of nonstop executive powergrabs (remember, we have a president that can judge somebody a terrorist and order their execution based solely on that judgement). From a government that no longer represents us. This is the kind of thing we should be worried about.

The reason the epiphany doesn’t come is because there is over 20 years of speeches, books, articles and votes expressing the exact opposite of those newsletters. His philosophy is centered around individualism, and his votes back that up. It’s an occam’s razor thing.

gyrmnix on December 25, 2011 at 1:17 AM

I hope conservatives in Virginia will hold their noses if necessary and vote for Ron Paul to help stop Romney.

FloatingRock on December 24, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Given the choice between Ron Paul and The Won in the general, many Republicans would vote for The Won or stay home.

CorporatePiggy on December 25, 2011 at 1:24 AM

…remember, we have a president that can judge somebody a terrorist and order their execution based solely on that judgement.

gyrmnix on December 25, 2011 at 1:17 AM

Personally, I happen to think killing Bin Laden has been the only worthwhile thing the Obama Administration has accomplished, but do go on. I want to hear more about your ideas regarding the real perpetrators of the 9-11 attacks. I’d sure hate to think either the American public or Presidents Bush and Obama unfairly judged the wrong man.

And the border fence between us and Mexico really is a means to keep us in? And those Ron Paul newsletters and solicitation letters are irrelevant to his candidacy and no longer apply because he’s said and written other things–like the things outlined above–since then? Amazing. I had no idea.

troyriser_gopftw on December 25, 2011 at 1:34 AM

Disappointed. This is not a normal post for Christmas Eve on Hot Air.

Connie on December 25, 2011 at 1:53 AM

The word ‘Destiny’ beneath Mr. Romney’s picture reminded me of Back to the Future where George McFly proclaims, “My density has bought me to you!”

p.s. Ed, Happy Happy & Merry Merry to you and yours. :)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 25, 2011 at 2:09 AM

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