Poll: Vast majority of Americans still self-identify as Christians

posted at 6:00 pm on December 24, 2011 by Tina Korbe

In advance of Christmas, Gallup released the results of a year’s worth of interviews of Americans about their attitudes toward religion. The results aren’t necessarily surprising, but they do make you wonder: How exactly is it that the phrase “Merry Christmas” has been branded offensive? From the poll summary:

The United States remains a predominantly Christian nation, with 78% of all adults identifying with a Christian faith, and more than 9 in 10 of those who have a religious identity identifying as Christians. [M]ore than 9 in 10 Americans say they believe in God, and … 8 in 10 say religion is a very or fairly important part of their lives.

Then again, perhaps the politicization of Christmas — the suspicion of public displays of religiosity, the secularization of sacred expressions — comes from the majority’s attempt to accommodate the vocal minority. And while a majority of Americans still identify as Christians, the percentage of Americans who say they have no formal religious identity is still on the rise. A total of 15 percent say they don’t identify with any religion at all, what Gallup calls “a continuation of a dramatic change from 50 and 60 years ago, when almost all Americans identified with a particular religion.”

That trend might be discouraging — but the overarching message of this poll is not. Most folks still see this season — and, indeed, their lives — as about something more than even politics or family or fancy gift-giving. My hope and prayer for all of you is that this might be a time to reconnect with that something more — a chance to remember that we exist in relationship not only with each other, but also with our Creator — and, for Christians, our Savior.


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But Christianity is under attack! It’s in imminent danger from secular forces!

theodore on December 24, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Store announcement today: “We will be open from 9 am to 3 pm tomorrow for your Christmas shopping convenience. Happy holidays.” A bit befuddled, are they? A little trouble recognizing self-promoted irony?

Merry Christmas and God’s Blessings to all.

ss396 on December 24, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Until the radical islamists and their secular atheist minions wander in and take Obama’s “Christian America” and toss it on the trash pile.

Daikokuco on December 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM

How exactly is it that the phrase “Merry Christmas” has been branded offensive?

It takes a lot of jerkwads.

squint on December 24, 2011 at 6:09 PM

So, a vast majority identify as Christians, and a tiny minority identify as liberal. Yet, this country is so far left we have to go hard right just to reach some sort of center.

darwin on December 24, 2011 at 6:11 PM

How exactly is it that the phrase “Merry Christmas” has been branded offensive?

Sustained attacks from filthy rich laywers, communists and various leftist groups.

darwin on December 24, 2011 at 6:12 PM

This must be the “let’s give the wretched atheists something to talk about” post.

Rio Linda Refugee on December 24, 2011 at 6:13 PM

Remember when a real President called himself a Christian?

Ronald Reagan’s Christmas address to the nation!

Can you imagine any President doing this today? I don’t even think there are too many Republicans who would give such a wonderful Christmas address! “Merry Christmas and God bless us everyone!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCeuNUWJzmk

JellyToast on December 24, 2011 at 6:14 PM

Because the left wants to obliterate American culture, which they hate.

They insist on getting their way, and until they do, they will make us miserable.

Not to mention *ashamed* of our religious beliefs.

Alana on December 24, 2011 at 6:14 PM

Tina is too young to be a blogger. I think she’s still in 8th grade. lol

davemason2k on December 24, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Until the radical islamists and their secular atheist minions wander in and take Obama’s “Christian America” and toss it on the trash pile.

Daikokuco on December 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Ummm….I’d worry about our economic problems under Obama incompetent stewardship before the irrelevant hysteria you promote.

rickyricardo on December 24, 2011 at 6:19 PM

As a Jew I am offended by this thread.

Why does the majority of the country need a middle man when they can buy direct?

rickyricardo on December 24, 2011 at 6:20 PM

Christmas should be more commercial!

Christians stole Christmas from the Pagans. It has always been a pagan, secular celebration of the productive. One thing that keeps a more pro-reason viewpoint down in the USA, is the insistence of the religious right. In order to defeat progressives, we need to drop religion from right leaning politics and focus on the progressive destruction of the economy.

JeffB. on December 24, 2011 at 6:20 PM

But Christianity is under attack! It’s in imminent danger from secular forces!

theodore on December 24, 2011 at 6:05 PM

David Seville called. Alvin and Simon are waiting for you in Studio B to finish the record.

Del Dolemonte on December 24, 2011 at 6:22 PM

Until the radical islamists and their secular atheist minions wander in and take Obama’s “Christian America” and toss it on the trash pile.

Daikokuco on December 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM

lol!

thirtyandseven on December 24, 2011 at 6:24 PM

Holy crap! Never let your dog lick a bowl containing too much balsamic vinegar!!

rickyricardo on December 24, 2011 at 6:25 PM

Can you imagine any President doing this today? I don’t even think there are too many Republicans who would give such a wonderful Christmas address! “Merry Christmas and God bless us everyone!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCeuNUWJzmk

JellyToast on December 24, 2011 at 6:14 PM

That was the very first time I ever heard Ronald Reagan’s voice via RFE. Thanks for posting.

JPeterman on December 24, 2011 at 6:28 PM

But Christianity is under attack! It’s in imminent danger from secular forces!

theodore on December 24, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Whats your point supposed to be, because I don’t think you have one.

Mimzey on December 24, 2011 at 6:29 PM

A merry Christmas to everyone on Hot Air!

Alana on December 24, 2011 at 6:29 PM

I loooove the falalalala side of Christmas. Neighborhoods lit up like “Little Vegas”, shopping for the half a billion (or so) neices & nephews, hummable songs in every store (I’m actually a whistler, but Grandma’s long ago voice comes in to haunt: A whistlin girl and a crowin hen; they don’t come to no good end). :)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 24, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Why does the majority of the country need a middle man when they can buy direct?

rickyricardo on December 24, 2011 at 6:20 PM

I’ll answer that if you can explain to me exactly what part of:

“He was crucified, buried, and rose on the third day”

you don’t understand.

Oh – and there is no such thing as too much balsalmic vinegar – just add more olive oil : )

oldfiveanddimer on December 24, 2011 at 6:32 PM

When a judge threatens anyone with jail time for saying either a benediction, prayer, or any Christian ritual, then we are under attack.
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=5205

Kini on December 24, 2011 at 6:34 PM

I, my home, are Christians. Tonight we Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. To the Jewish poster here, a very Blessed Hanukkah and to the Christians here a Blessed and Happy birthday Jesus, the reason we have this day.
L

letget on December 24, 2011 at 6:35 PM

The poll is encouraging, but you’d be amazed how many people think they’re a Christian just because they went to an Easter service once when they were a kid or their grandmother took them to a Sunday school service.

I have a hard time believing that in 8 in 10 Americans consider Christ to be their Lord and Savior. This country would have a lot fewer problems if that were truly the case.

BradTank on December 24, 2011 at 6:35 PM

As a Jew I am offended by this thread.

Why does the majority of the country need a middle man when they can buy direct?

rickyricardo on December 24, 2011 at 6:20 PM

The middle man gets you a better deal–100% off all repented sins, and rent-controlled living (pegged at zero) in the best eternal neighborhood available…when the time comes. What’s not to like?

RBMN on December 24, 2011 at 6:36 PM

Oh – and there is no such thing as too much balsalmic vinegar – just add more olive oil : )

oldfiveanddimer on December 24, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Heh! You can always add to, but you cannot take away!

Kini on December 24, 2011 at 6:38 PM

I know our country has a lot of problems and people have a lot of different opinions about religion etc. But wouldn’t it be great if we could just put it all aside for one day and use this Christmas season to reach out to nieghbors and needy folks and show some kindness to those around us? That’s what I plan to do. Thanks for the post Tina

eze breeze on December 24, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Love, Peace & Happiness now and in the coming year to Ed, Tina, Allahpundit, and all Hot Gas posters. Tis the Season!

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 24, 2011 at 6:39 PM

As a Jew I am offended by this thread.

Why does the majority of the country need a middle man when they can buy direct?

rickyricardo on December 24, 2011 at 6:20 PM

yeah, you’re just shaking the tree of attention.
If you really are offended, you’d change the channel.

Kini on December 24, 2011 at 6:41 PM

This must be the “let’s give the wretched atheists something to talk about” post.

Rio Linda Refugee on December 24, 2011 at 6:13 PM

Seeing as they’re part of a measley 22%, why not?

egmont on December 24, 2011 at 6:49 PM

One thing that keeps a more pro-reason viewpoint down in the USA, is the insistence of the religious right.

I am so sick of hearing the religious right is a boogey man. Boo!

>In order to defeat progressives, we need to drop religion from right leaning politics

You want to drop a third of your base for “moderates” who will just go vote for the next great flashy toy-go for it. See if that is a winning strategy. The “religious right” give a lot of money to the Republican party and the donate a lot of time, and get little or nothing in return but lip service.

melle1228 on December 24, 2011 at 6:58 PM

But wouldn’t it be great if we could just put it all aside for one day and use this Christmas season to reach out to nieghbors and needy folks and show some kindness to those around us? That’s what I plan to do. Thanks for the post Tina

eze breeze on December 24, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Reminds me of a song I was listening to just a while ago.

Merry Christmas to all of my new friends at Hot Air.

Flora Duh on December 24, 2011 at 6:59 PM

BradTank on December 24, 2011 at 6:35 PM

Sadly, I agree. The country would be vastly different if those who self-identified as Christians were Christians. When I read this thread these words came to mind:

“Why do you call Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say? Everyone who comes to Me and hears My words and acts on them, I will show you whom he is like: he is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid a foundation on the rock; and when a flood occurred, the torrent burst against that house and could not shake it, because it had been well built. But the one who has heard and has not acted accordingly, is like a man who built a house on the ground without any foundation; and the torrent burst against it and immediately it collapsed, and the ruin of that house was great.”
~Luke 6:46–49

INC on December 24, 2011 at 7:00 PM

So the angels said to the shepherds, “Fear not, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which shall be to all people, for unto you is born this day, in the city of David, a Savior which is Christ the Lord” (Luke 2:11). And His name shall be called: “Wonderful, Counselor, the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace” (Isaiah 9:11). The Lamb of God.

Dr Evil on December 24, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Seeing as they’re part of a measley 22%, why not?

egmont on December 24, 2011 at 6:49 PM

Not hardly. That says 78% identify as Christians.

So a large part of that 22 would be Islamic, Jewish, Hindu, etc. No way is 22% of the country atheist.

predator on December 24, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Kini on December 24, 2011 at 6:41 PM

Kini, do you know how much I look up to you? I never pass over a Kini comment.

hawkdriver on December 24, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Merry Christmas to all.

Yes, the date Christmas is celebrated derived from a pagan date. That was to make the converted pagans more comfortable in their new faith. It’s not when we celebrate but what we celebrate that makes this date special, commemorating the incarnation of our Lord and Savior. Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!

AZfederalist on December 24, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Christians stole Christmas from the Pagans. It has always been a pagan, secular celebration of the productive.

JeffB. on December 24, 2011 at 6:20 PM

And?
Its more complicated than that…but, so what?
Is your claim supposed to “debunk” something other than a date on the calender?
Whats your point supposed to be?

Mimzey on December 24, 2011 at 7:08 PM

Yes, the date Christmas is celebrated derived from a pagan date. That was to make the converted pagans more comfortable in their new faith.

Right, and the Islamic practice of building mosques over the remains of religiously significant buildings of other faiths is simply to make new converts to Islam more comfortable worshiping in the same physical location.

theodore on December 24, 2011 at 7:11 PM

One thing that keeps a more pro-reason viewpoint down in the USA, is the insistence of the religious right. In order to defeat progressives, we need to drop religion from right leaning politics and focus on the progressive destruction of the economy.

JeffB. on December 24, 2011 at 6:20 PM

Be grateful for the Christian heritage of this country. Our Founders had what Thomas Sowell calls a restrained vision of man. They understood the siren call of power and built the gridlock of checks and balances into our political system.

Sowell calls one worldview the “constrained vision.” It sees human nature as flawed or fallen, seeking to make the best of the possibilities that exist within that constraint. The competing worldview, which Sowell terms the “unconstrained vision,” instead sees human nature as capable of continual improvement.

The utopians are the unconstrained visionaries. They’re the ones who become totalitarians or useful idiots.

The American Revolution embodied the constrained vision. “In the United States,” Sowell says, “it was assumed from the outset that what you needed to do above all was minimize [the damage that could be done by] the flaws in human nature.” The founders did so by composing a constitution of checks and balances. More than two centuries later, their work remains in place.

The French Revolution, by contrast, embodied the unconstrained vision. “In France,” Sowell says, “the idea was that if you put the right people in charge–if you had a political Messiah–then problems would just go away.” The result? The Terror, Napoleon and so many decades of instability that France finally sorted itself out only when Charles de Gaulle declared the Fifth Republic.

INC on December 24, 2011 at 7:13 PM

Vast majority of Americans still self-identify as Christians

Why do I give a crap about anybody else’s religious beliefs? Yeah the same majority voted in our current POTUS. Why would I seek validation on life’s most important issues from them?

People are too needy. You’re born alone. You die alone. God put you here to live life not argue about it. If your soul is saved, you’ll have all the time you need to consider life once you’re dead. Right?

How exactly is it that the phrase “Merry Christmas” has been branded offensive?

It’s not offensive. If you allow others to dictate the terms of your happiness, don’t expect much of it.

Merry Christmas. If any one of you find that offensive, your brain is broken.

Capitalist Hog on December 24, 2011 at 7:13 PM

I would be interested in how many people who identify as Christians, emphasize grace (God’s unmerited favor) as the single central focus of their Christianity, rather than Law-works (church attendance, “Christian living”, attempting to keep the Ten Commandments, good deeds, etc…)?

whatthecrap on December 24, 2011 at 7:16 PM

Ronald Reagan’s Christmas address to the nation!

Great video, thanks!

Can you imagine any President doing this today?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCeuNUWJzmk

JellyToast on December 24, 2011 at 6:14 PM

In certain quarters, heads would explode today at FDR’s “the American people, in their righteous might, will win through to absolute victory”, followed by “So help us God”.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 7:19 PM

The poll is encouraging, but you’d be amazed how many people think they’re a Christian just because they went to an Easter service once when they were a kid or their grandmother took them to a Sunday school service.

I have a hard time believing that in 8 in 10 Americans consider Christ to be their Lord and Savior. This country would have a lot fewer problems if that were truly the case.

BradTank on December 24, 2011 at 6:35 PM

I’m with you on this point.

A lot of people sincerely (and mistakenly) believe they are Christians, but they are not… some might assume that because their parents are Christians, that makes them Christian too (it does not).

Some think that because they attend a Christian church every week, this makes them Christian (it does not).

Some think being baptized, or being a member of a particular denomination, makes them a Christian (both of which are incorrect).

Jesus spoke of this phenomenon of false believers in the New Testament (in passages such as Matthew 7: 15 – 23).

TigerPaw on December 24, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Right, and the Islamic practice of building mosques over the remains of religiously significant buildings of other faiths is simply to make new converts to Islam more comfortable worshiping in the same physical location.

theodore on December 24, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Umm, no, the islamic practice of building mosques over the remains of religiously significant buildings of other faiths is to exert their dominance and proclaim the defeat of those whom they have routed militarily. This is something baked into their Koran and Hadiths. But then you knew that.

With historical exceptions that violated all orthodox biblical principles, Christianity has not been a coercive religion but one of preaching and conversion. Those exceptions were not Christians practicing Christianity but power-hungry leaders using Christianity as a pretext for their assertion of power. The practice of providing alternatives to pagan celebrations was not coercive but a means of providing a positive celebration to replace those pagan celebrations.

AZfederalist on December 24, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Not hardly. That says 78% identify as Christians.

So a large part of that 22 would be Islamic, Jewish, Hindu, etc. No way is 22% of the country atheist.

predator on December 24, 2011 at 7:02 PM

It’s probably a fairly safe bet that atheist are under 3%.

SWalker on December 24, 2011 at 7:22 PM

It’s probably a fairly safe bet that atheist are under 3%.

SWalker on December 24, 2011 at 7:22 PM

That’s exactly what I’m talking about. What does it matter to you whether your ideas are supported at-large? How weak is your own moral constitution that you need an entire nation to agree with you?

Capitalist Hog on December 24, 2011 at 7:27 PM

I’m an atheist personally but I think it’s totally ridiculous how people seem to take Christmas as a personal insult. There are a LOT of much better reasons to hate Christmas if you’re really determined to, but if just hearing the word “Christmas” is enough to get you all offended and mad then maybe you’re not as secure in your non-belief as you like to pretend. Or maybe you just need to get a life and stop worrying about how other people live theirs.

Merry Christmas!

Cyhort on December 24, 2011 at 7:28 PM

God bless us, everyone!

catquilt on December 24, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Thank you, Cyhort, and Merry Christmas to you!

INC on December 24, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Thank you, Tina, for the post.

Merry Christmas to all!

“But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son….”
~Galatians 4:4a

“God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days has spoken to us in His Son…”
~Hebrews 1:1-2

“And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.”
~John 1:14

INC on December 24, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Thy have pretty much won the war on Christmas. But it actually was just a battle, part of larger war that we are losing.

But this poll shows that a candidate that will go out in open and stand up to the minority of secular progressives, can win, and win big. The people en masse have been hoodwinked or hypnotized, or something, and we need a candidate that says “we’re not going to take it anymore!” That is, if we want to get the force of the people, and their $, behind the coming election.

anotherJoe on December 24, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Buon Natale!

hillbillyjim on December 24, 2011 at 7:42 PM

How exactly is it that the phrase “Merry Christmas” has been branded offensive?

It’s not offensive, but neither is the phrase “Happy Holidays.” You know, the two word tacit acknowledgment of the existence of Hanukkah and New Year’s that somehow managed to inflame the “War on Christmas.”

YYZ on December 24, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Tomorrow we will celebrate the birthday of one of the most important humans to have ever walked the earth, changing the path of the world in his wake. Cheers to you, Sir Isaac Newton.

mythicknight on December 24, 2011 at 7:45 PM

Thank you, Tina Korbe, for reminding us that not all politicians are insincere power-grabbing tools. That was a nice present for us all.

A very Merry Christmas to you and all of yours; and to the rest of the HotGas gang as well.

Also, prayers for our brave troops; keep them in your hearts and minds please — especially those that are so far from home and hearth. May God bless them all.

hillbillyjim on December 24, 2011 at 7:47 PM

mythicknight on December 24, 2011 at 7:45 PM

Did you know Sir Isaac Newton was a Christian?

INC on December 24, 2011 at 7:47 PM

They should have added people like me, agnostic but with a healthy respect for Christian tradition, to the count. I’m sure it’d put a sizeable dent to the 15% of unbelievers.

Archivarix on December 24, 2011 at 7:56 PM

I saw another poll that showed 54% of Americans believe in ghosts. Not surprisingly our children rank very low on math, science, geography, etc. We live in fantasy land so of course we don’t know much about the empirical world.

Dan_Yul on December 24, 2011 at 7:56 PM

Until the radical islamists and their secular atheist minions wander in and take Obama’s “Christian America” and toss it on the trash pile.

Daikokuco on December 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM

lol!

thirtyandseven on December 24, 2011 at 6:24 PM

poe’s law!

nathor on December 24, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Merry Christmas Ed, Tina, Allahpundit, and all the commenters and readers, and the Greenroom crew.

rbj on December 24, 2011 at 7:58 PM

Kini, do you know how much I look up to you? I never pass over a Kini comment.

hawkdriver on December 24, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Aw! Shucks Hawkdriver! Thanks!

BTW Sir, Thank You for your service to our Great country.
You are my Hero!

Kini on December 24, 2011 at 7:59 PM

Merry Christmas!

Sherman1864 on December 24, 2011 at 8:02 PM

I believe in one God,
the Father Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth and of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the only-begotten Son of God,
begotten of His Father before all worlds,
God of God,
Light of Light,
very God of very God,
begotten, not made,
being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made;
who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven and was incarnate by the
Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary and was made man;
and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate.

He suffered and was buried.

And the third day He rose again according to the Scriptures
and ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of the Father.
And He will come again with glory to judge both the living and the dead,
whose kingdom will have no end.

And I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord and giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified,
who spoke by the prophets.

And I believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church
I acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins,
and I look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come.

Amen.

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2011 at 8:02 PM

As a Jew I am offended by this thread.

Why does the majority of the country need a middle man when they can buy direct?

rickyricardo on December 24, 2011 at 6:20 PM

God’s Messiah has come. His blood sacrifice ended the blood sacrifice of bulls and goats. He became High Priest and does not need to atone for His own sin, being perfect,(as an Aaronic priest does) but atoned with His blood for the sins of us all! Yeshua was a Jewish Rabbi in His earthly ministry, a great miracle worker, but His main work was the true and lasting atonement he provides for anyone who receives it.

Thank you, Jesus, for coming! May You rejoice in all the lives You’ve changed for the good. And may those who are offended by You (as I once was) find how loving and good You are to those who believe. The Bible declares, “And God commended His love for us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”

As I write, my wife is singing at church a song by Randy Travis — an excerpt:
They wrapped him up with gentle hands.
God hoped the world would understand.
Eternal life we shall receive.
And all that He asks in return is that we just believe.
He was the Son God sent to one and all
Put on this earth to hang there on that cross
Born to die, that we might live.
He had a birthday, we got the gift.

There’s now way on earth we can repay
The Miracle He gave us on that day.

He was the Son God sent to one and all
Put on this earth to hang there on that cross
Born to die, that we might live.
He had a birthday, we got the gift.

May you all rejoice in that gift – Jesus is born.

God Bless and Merry Christmas!

Christian Conservative on December 24, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Oh so far i fall! But I LOVE YOU Lord Jesus!

lisa fox on December 24, 2011 at 8:20 PM

Tomorrow we will celebrate the birthday of one of the most important humans to have ever walked the earth, changing the path of the world in his wake. Cheers to you, Sir Isaac Newton.

mythicknight on December 24, 2011 at 7:45 PM

Hitchenesque!

rickyricardo on December 24, 2011 at 8:21 PM

So, a vast majority identify as Christians, and a tiny minority identify as liberal. Yet, this country is so far left we have to go hard right just to reach some sort of center.

darwin on December 24, 2011 at 6:11 PM

78% of Americans self-identify as Christian but this doesn’t mean that the same amount subscribe to all the religious tenets or political beliefs you may hold dearly. Many are no doubt derided by some as being “cultural Christians”, “cafeteria Catholics”, “RINOs”, etc. In fact, even a number of more conservative Christians I know are quite secularist when it comes to politics.

JohnAGJ on December 24, 2011 at 8:25 PM

As a Jew I am offended by this thread.

Why does the majority of the country need a middle man when they can buy direct?

rickyricardo on December 24, 2011 at 6:20 PM

Well at least our “middle man” was a Jew and a Rabbi to boot, gotta love that. I’m Christian myself, but this was funny! Thanks.

Happy Hannukah. :)

JohnAGJ on December 24, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Ay, people using Christmas as an excuse to trash others and prove how superior their brand of Christianity is.

Also, Newton was born on December 25, Old Style. New Style puts his date of birth on January 4.

andy85719 on December 24, 2011 at 8:32 PM

The middle man gets you a better deal–100% off all repented sins, and rent-controlled living (pegged at zero) in the best eternal neighborhood available…when the time comes. What’s not to like?

RBMN on December 24, 2011 at 6:36 PM

So for Christians, Heaven is where the rent is NOT too… dang high? ;)

JohnAGJ on December 24, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Poll: Vast majority of Americans still self-identify as Christians

But Christianity is under attack! It’s in imminent danger from secular forces!

theodore on December 24, 2011 at 6:05 PM

The truth is in between these two statements.
Obviously, a Christian is a Christ follower.
If 78% of us were Christ-followers:
Abortion would be illegal.
Homosexual marriage would be unthinkable, let alone legal.
The rampant porn & profanity coming from Hollywood would all but disappear.
Crime would be a tiny fraction of what it is.
“God” would be used as a title of honor far more often than as an epithet, rather than the other way around.
Etc, etc, etc.
The vast majority of professing saints are aints.
Who’s a saint & who’s an aint?
God knows.

itsnotaboutme on December 24, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Seeing as they’re part of a measley 22%, why not?

egmont on December 24, 2011 at 6:49 PM

Not hardly. That says 78% identify as Christians.

So a large part of that 22 would be Islamic, Jewish, Hindu, etc. No way is 22% of the country atheist.

predator on December 24, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Did I say LARGE, part of the 22%? I think not.

egmont on December 24, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Since the supposed war on christmas, I hear more ppl saying merry christmas then ever before.
Maybe its the bad boy image but I swear I hear it more now then in my younger years. I think the war has brought more ppl out of there shells.

angrymike on December 24, 2011 at 8:51 PM

But Christianity is under attack! It’s in imminent danger from secular forces! theodore on December 24, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Uh, yeah. Fifty years ago when the numbers were even more in favor of Christianity, SCOTUS took away the right of teachers and students to pray openly, and to hear the Bible read in public schools.

It’s still gone.

Akzed on December 24, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Christians stole Christmas from the Pagans. JeffB. on December 24, 2011 at 6:20 PM

Yeah, and we stole California from the Mexicans. Conquerors accrue certain privileges.

Akzed on December 24, 2011 at 8:58 PM

I’m agnostic, but if I’m ever called upon to pick a side, I’ll stand with the Christians.

blackgriffin on December 24, 2011 at 9:02 PM

But Christianity is under attack! It’s in imminent danger from secular forces!

theodore on December 24, 2011 at 6:05 PM

… Actually, it is secularism that is under attack from “Christian” forces…

GuitarMark on December 24, 2011 at 9:04 PM

From Joseph Farah:

Zacharias [father of john the Baptist] was a priest of the course of Abia and that he fulfilled his duties before going home and impregnating his wife. In I Chronicles 24:1-10, we learn that the priestly duties were established about 1,000 years earlier. They included 24 courses and were numbered by drawing lots – 12 courses for sanctuary service and 12 for the government of the house of God.

Priests would serve during a month starting with the Hebrew months of Nisan, which can begin anytime between early March and early April. The sons of Abija, the Old Testament spelling for Abia, were in the eighth course, which would mean Zacharias would likely have ministered during the eighth month of the Hebrew calendar, starting as early as the fifth day of our month of October. That would place the likely time of John the Baptist’s conception toward the end of October.

Elisabeth then hid herself for five months. Sometime, perhaps, around March 15-April 15, the angel appeared to Mary. For the sake of argument, let’s say this happened on or about April 1. [The Feast of the Annunciation is March 25.] A normal gestation period of 270 days would have resulted in the birth of Jesus on or about Dec. 25.

That is a very plausible scenario. Still not convinced? How about this?

Let’s go back to Luke, Chapter 2, verse 8: “And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.”

Shepherds spent the night in the fields with their sheep when the lambs are born. The mating cycle begins after June 21. The normal gestation period is five months, so the ewes start giving birth in mid-December.

Jesus was likened to a lamb who was brought into this world to be slaughtered for our sins. Wouldn’t it make sense that He was born around the same time that the innocent little lambs were being born in the fields nearby?

The more I read the Bible, the more I am stunned by such little “coincidences.” The Bible is full of them. It makes perfect sense to me. I hope you agree.

Yet, it doesn’t really matter exactly when Jesus was born. The important thing today, as we Christians prepare to celebrate that birth, is that He was born – that He did come, that He later laid down His life for us and that He will come again.

Merry Christmas to all of you, dear readers. May the joy of His coming be with you today, tomorrow and for all eternity.

Akzed on December 24, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Actually, it is secularism that is under attack from “Christian” forces… GuitarMark on December 24, 2011 at 9:04 PM

The Founders would recognize the nation they bequeathed to us. They were hardly secularists.

“The Hand of providence has been so conspicuous in all this, that he must be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations.” -George Washington, letter of August 20, 1778 to Brig. General Thomas Nelson, in John C. Fitzpatrick, editor, The Writings of George Washington, Vol. XII (Washington: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1932), p. 343.

So Washington thought that “secularists” should be considered patriots. Not.

Akzed on December 24, 2011 at 9:15 PM

The Founders would not recognize the nation they bequeathed to us.

Sorry.

Akzed on December 24, 2011 at 9:16 PM

Tomorrow we will celebrate the birthday of one of the most important humans to have ever walked the earth, changing the path of the world in his wake. Cheers to you, Sir Isaac Newton.

mythicknight on December 24, 2011 at 7:45 PM

To much “Big Bang Theory”.

oldfiveanddimer on December 24, 2011 at 9:21 PM

As a Jew I am offended by this thread.

Why does the majority of the country need a middle man when they can buy direct?

rickyricardo

The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one, therefore there is no “middle man”. Mankind proved it could not afford the price of its own salvation, but God so loved the world that he sent His Only Son to pay it for us. You could look it up…

Knott Buyinit on December 24, 2011 at 9:25 PM

Born in American, white, middle-class, mid-western, self identifying as Hindu. Aum.

Dandapani on December 24, 2011 at 9:32 PM

Jesu, Joy of Man’s Desiring

Bach can rock.

Merry Christmas. And rock on.

Akzed on December 24, 2011 at 9:39 PM

Born in American, white, middle-class, mid-western, self identifying as Hindu. Aum. Dandapani on December 24, 2011 at 9:32 PM

Huh. Do you smear cow poo on your hair and drink cow pee?

Akzed on December 24, 2011 at 9:43 PM

How exactly is it that the phrase “Merry Christmas” has been branded offensive?

Probably the same way that most cussing is bleeped out on most TV channels but the one thing a channel is most likely to let slip by the censors is a blasphemy (GD). Shouldn’t it be the other way around in a nation of Christians?

The problem is that most of us are lazy when it comes right down to it. We don’t want to have to fight to make things right. We just let other people decide what’s right for us. That’s why abortion is legal in this nation of Christians. That’s why corrupt politicians are continually reelected in this nation of Christians.

Benaiah on December 24, 2011 at 9:45 PM

The most important business in this Nation–or any other nation, for that matter-is raising and training children. If those children have the proper environment at home, and educationally, very, very few of them ever turn out wrong. I don’t think we put enough stress on the necessity of implanting in the child’s mind the moral code under which we live.

The fundamental basis of this Nation’s law was given to Moses on the Mount. The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings which we get from Exodus and St. Matthew, from Isaiah and St. Paul. I don’t think we emphasize that enough these days.

If we don’t have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.

- President Harry S. Truman

ITguy on December 24, 2011 at 9:49 PM

Merry Christmas to all….from Level Green Pennsylvania. May God Bless one and all….

Krammer on December 24, 2011 at 9:50 PM

All are welcome, as long as they support and defend our Constitution and our laws.

But things today are very similar to things around the founding of our country in 1776.

We are still largely a nation composed of “Christians of all denominations”.

And we are “in times of impending calamity and distress; when the Liberties of America are imminently endangered by the secret machinations and open assaults of an insidious and vindictive Administration…”

In CONGRESS,
SATURDAY, March 16, 1776.

IN times of impending calamity and distress; when the Liberties of America are imminently endangered by the secret machinations and open assaults of an insidious and vindictive Administration, it becomes the indispensible duty of these hitherto free and happy Colonies, with true penitence of heart, and the most reverent devotion, publickly to acknowledge the over ruling providence of God; to confess and deplore our offences against him; and to supplicate his interposition for averting the threatened danger, and prospering our strenuous efforts in the cause of Freedom, Virtue and Posterity.

The Congress therefore, considering the warlike preparations of the British Ministry to subvert our invaluable rights and privileges, and to reduce us by fire and sword, by the savages of the wilderness and our own domestics, to the most abject and ignominious bondage: Desirous, at the same time, to have people of all ranks and degrees, duly impressed with a solemn sense of God’s superintending providence, and of their duty devoutly to rely in all their lawful enterprizes of his aid and direction–do earnestly recommend, that FRIDAY, the seventeenth day of May next, be observed by the said Colonies as a day of HUMILIATION, FASTING, and PRAYER; that we may with united hearts confess and bewail our manifold sins and transgressions, and by a sincere, repentance and amendment of life, appease his righteous displeasure and through the merits and mediation of Jesus Christ, obtain his pardon and forgiveness; humbly imploring his assistance to frustrate the cruel purposes of our unnatural enemies; and by inclining their hearts to justice and benevolence, prevent the further effusion of kindred blood. But if continuing deaf to the voice of reason and humanity, and inflexibly bent on desolation and war, they constrain us to repel their hostile invasions by open resistance, that it may please the Lord of Hosts, the God of Armies, to animate our Officers and Soldiers with invincible fortitude to guard and protect them in the day of battle, and to crown the Continental arms by sea and land with victory and success: Earnestly beseeching him to bless our civil Rulers and the Representatives of the People in their several Assemblies and Conventions; to preserve and strengthen their Union, to inspire them with an ardent disinterested love of their Country; to give wisdom and stability to their Councils; and direct them to the most efficacious measures for establishing the Rights of America on the most honorable and permanent basis–that he would be graciously pleased to bless all his People in these Colonies with Health and Plenty, and grant that a spirit of incorruptible Patriotism and of pure undefiled Religion may universally prevail; and this Continent be speedily restored to the blessings of Peace and Liberty, and enabled to transmit them inviolate to the latest Posterity. And it is recommended to Christians of all denominations to assemble for Public Worship, and abstain from servile Labour on the said Day.

By Order of Congress,
JOHN HANCOCK, President

Attest………..CHARLES THOMPSON, Secretary.

Colony of the
Massachusetts-Bay.

In COUNCIL, April 3, 1776.

READ and accepted, and Ordered, That a suitable Number be printed, in order that each of the religious Assemblies, in this Colony, may be furnished with a Copy of the same.

Sent down for Concurrence………..PEREZ MORTON, Dep. Sec’ry.

In the House of REPRESENTATIVES, April 4, 1776.

Read and concurr’d………..SAMUEL FREEMAN, Speaker, pro Tem.

Consented to,

JAMES OTIS,
BENJAMIN GREENLEAF,
CALEB CUSHING,
JOHN WINTHROP,
JOHN WHETCOMB,
ELDAD TAYLOR,
MICHAEL FARLEY,
JOSEPH PALMER,
SAMUEL HOLTEN,
MOSES GILL,
JOSEPH GERRISH,
BENJAMIN LINCOLN,
CHARLES CHAUNCY,
JOHN TAYLOR,
BENJAMIN WHITE.

GOD SAVE THE PEOPLE.

The Library of Congress Document Image

ITguy on December 24, 2011 at 9:55 PM

Merry Christmas!

ITguy on December 24, 2011 at 9:57 PM

I have no opinion, too busy tracking Santa on NORAD. ;-)

Lord, don’t give us over. Not yet. Restrain evil by our prayers that You hear. Remember Your remnant. There is only One who can open the seals, and I pray Oh come, oh come Emmanuel. For the next year Lord, I pray also Ps. 109:8. Open the eyes of those who vote and will cast a ballot for the direction of a nation that You have graciously blessed. May they use their liberty wisely, turning away from worthless idols. Forgive us who love trust and love You when we rely, at times, on our own fallible wisdom and strength. We are nothing without Christ. In the Lamb’s name, Amen.

Merry Christmas everyone. May the Lord protect us in these evil times.

Registered Nic on December 24, 2011 at 9:59 PM

I don’t know what I identify with at the moment.
Raised Jewish, baptized Evangelical, confirmed Catholic, and now a ‘Christian’-who won’t evangelize and doesn’t believe Jews go to Hell. I wish my parents had raise us orthodox Jewish because
when you raise your kids ‘nothing’(reformed Judaism is essentially cultural Judaism)-they end up everything.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2011 at 10:02 PM

Registered Nic on December 24, 2011 at 9:59 PM

The lord may not have to visit vengeance upon us. While we recognized him, we recognized the virtue of restraint in the very concept of authority over our fellow human beings and called that virtue “freedom.” Now that we have abandoned God, we have abandoned freedom along with him, and in doing so we have destroyed the most prosperous and generous nation from within without the need for The Almighty to even lift a finger.

gryphon202 on December 24, 2011 at 10:04 PM

rickyricardo:
My Jewish mother isn’t bothered by discussions like this.
Most right-of-center Jews feel the same. I’m sure my late father would have agreed.
Please don’t whine.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2011 at 10:05 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2011 at 10:02 PM

Prayers are ascending for you darlin’ keep the faith…

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2011 at 10:29 PM

OmahaConservative on December 24, 2011 at 10:29 PM

Thanks. I told the Mister(a Calvinist) that I was born a Jew and I intend to die a Jew-but in the interim I’m trying-a Michael W. Smith might say- to find my place in this world. Faith-wise I feel so empty right now.
I like the hearts and community of Christianity-and the rationality and logic of Judaism. *sigh*

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2011 at 10:37 PM

Most folks still see this season — and, indeed, their lives — as about something more than even politics or family or fancy gift-giving.

This.

Flora Duh on December 24, 2011 at 10:38 PM

So the angels said to the shepherds, “Fear not, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which shall be to all people, for unto you is born this day, in the city of David, a Savior which is Christ the Lord” (Luke 2:11). And His name shall be called: “Wonderful, Counselor, the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace” (Isaiah 9:11). The Lamb of God.

This reminds me of Linus in “A Charlie Brown Christmas”, explaining to Charlie Brown what Christmas is all about. Thank you, Dr. Evil.

Rightmindedmom on December 24, 2011 at 10:43 PM

I like the hearts and community of Christianity-and the rationality and logic of Judaism. *sigh*

annoyinglittletwerp on December 24, 2011 at 10:37 PM

Check out this website, ALT. I think you’ll find it rather enlightening. I know I have.

gryphon202 on December 24, 2011 at 10:44 PM

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