Gingrich also fails to qualify for Virginia ballot; Update: Gingrich promises write-in campaign; Update: Are write-ins for primaries illegal in VA?

posted at 9:15 am on December 24, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Hey, what’s the big deal?  It’s only, er, the state in which Gingrich currently lives:

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has failed to qualify for Virginia’s March 6 Republican primary, a development that complicates his bid to win the GOP presidential nomination.

“After verification, RPV has determined that Newt Gingrich did not submit required 10k signatures and has not qualified for the VA primary,” the Republican Party of Virginia announced early Saturday on its Twitter website.

This follows the failure of Rick Perry to make the primary ballot, announced earlier last night.  Which is more egregious?  Perry had a lot more money and resources on which to call to get his ducks in a row than Gingrich, but this is Gingrich’s home state now, and has been for the last 12 years.  A basic test in the primaries is whether a candidate can win his home state, so the failure to even qualify for the ballot is an even worse failure.

The news couldn’t come at a worse time, either.  Gingrich’s numbers had already been falling in Iowa, but there had been a sense that the slide had been arrested, if not started to reverse itself a little.  This failure calls into question Gingrich’s managerial competence all over again, which has taken a beating throughout this campaign — first when his staff walked out on him, and later when former House colleagues began to recall the circumstances of the rebellion that took place just a couple of years into his speakership.

The Virginia GOP can’t be enjoying this, either.  Right now it looks like their early-ish March 6th primary will be an embarrassing flop, offering commonwealth Republicans a choice only between Mitt Romney and Ron Paul.  One has to wonder whether the state party will be spending their Christmas holiday looking for loopholes to add the rest of the field to the ballot — and if they do, how they plan to defend themselves against likely court challenges from Romney, Paul, or their supporters.  Right now, the suddenly impermeable ballot of Virginia is making the case for Romney on competence alone.

Drink heavily the eggnog this evening and next, my friends.

Update: Commenter Cindy Munford asks, “Mr. Morrissey, why didn’t Rep. Bachmann, Sen. Santorum, and Gov. Huntsman even bother to submit petitions? It sure makes it seem like Virginia wasn’t a priority, why is that?”  Er … why are you asking my dad?  Oh — “Mr. Morrissey” is me? Well, OK.  Bachmann and Santorum don’t have the resources to put people on the ground in Virginia; they’re both sinking everything they have into Iowa.  I don’t think anyone expected them to qualify for the Virginia ballot.  Huntsman does have considerable resources, and he should have been able to compete in Virginia, so I’m not sure why he didn’t bother to try.

Dad says hello, by the way.

Update II: Team Gingrich lays this at the feet of Virginia, and promises “an aggressive write-in campaign”:

“Only a failed system excludes four out of the six major candidates seeking access to the ballot.  Voters deserve the right to vote for any top contender, especially leading candidates.  We will work with the Republican Party of Virginia to pursue an aggressive write-in campaign to make sure that all the voters of Virginia are able to vote for the candidate of their choice.”

Well, the same “failed system” allowed six GOP and six Democratic campaigns to qualify for the ballot in 2008 — including, as Doug Mataconis reminds us, those establishment candidates Alan Keyes [see below, no] and Dennis Kucinich.  I’m pretty sure neither of those campaigns were drowning in cash this time four years ago, either. As for the potential success of a write-in campaign, it’s difficult to see how that will work when Gingrich’s team couldn’t even get enough people on the street to sign their own names to petitions, let alone write his name on a ballot.

Update III: Steve Eggleston offers a devastating comment to Team Gingrich’s attempt to accuse Virginia of blocking ballot access:

I’d like to know whether he considers Bachmann, Huntsman, or Santorum not a major candidate, or whether he realizes none of those three so much as submitted signatures.

Are they paying attention at all?

Update IV: Actually, Doug’s wrong [see next upate] — Keyes wasn’t on 2008 GOP primary ballot, but it did have six candidates: Paul, Romney, McCain, Fred Thompson, Huckabee, and Giuliani.  Democrats had six as well: Obama, Kucinich, Hillary Clinton, Bill Richardson, Biden, and John Edwards.  And as I recall, the Fred Thompson campaign wasn’t exactly known for its energy and accomplishment.

Update V: I’m the one who got Doug’s tweet wrong, not Doug; he said Keyes got on the ballot in 2000, not 2008, which is true and goes directly to the same point.  But even worse, it appears that the pledge to run a write-in campaign in Virginia has one eeensy little obstacle …. it’s illegal:

At all elections except primary elections it shall be lawful for any voter to vote for any person other than the listed candidates for the office by writing or hand printing the person’s name on the official ballot…

Doug marvels at how a major campaign could get this so wrong:

That’s the first sentence of Virginia Code Section 24.2-644(C). Considering that Newt is a resident of the Commonwealth one would think his campaign would be aware of such things. Actually, one would think his campaign would have been on top of this thing months ago.

Well … yeah.

Update VI: Some are asking if the requirements for petition signatures changed between 2008 and 2010.  They did in 2010, but they appear to have gotten easier to collect, not more difficult.  Instead of requiring a Social Security number for each signature, the law was changed from shall to may, only for the last four digits of the SSN.

Update VII: So how long did Perry, Gingrich, and everyone else have to collect their signatures?  Steve Eggleston says more than five months:

In case you were in a cave this week, Rick Santorum, Jon Huntsman and Michele Bachmann failed to turn in any signatures to get on Virginia’s March 6 Presidential primary ballot, while Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich had enough of their under-12,000 signatures (11,911 and 11,050 respectively) signatures invalidated by the Republican Party of Virginia that they too missed the 10,000 (with at least 400 from each of the 11 Congressional districts). …

For those of you wondering whether the 10,000 threshhold is so strenuous, nobody but the best-funded candidates can make the grade, do note tha the candidates could start collecting signatures back on July 1, and thus had over 5 1/2 months to get to 10,000. Further, there were 6 candidates on the 2008 Republican and 6 candidates on the 2008 Democrat Virginia primary ballots, including Dennis Kucinich on the Democrat side.

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No sympathy for Newtie. Remember when it was more important to go visit the Greek isles instead of doing something more constructive for his campaign – like nailing this down first. The requirements aren’t onerous unless you don’t have the organization/volunteers and a modicum of cash to spread around. Seems they all concentrated on the first four primaries and thought they would have plenty of time to make the ballot here. Big miscalculation – maybe for some candidates, their own fault; for others, their backers and staff.

Bob in VA on December 24, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Remember when it was more important to go visit the Greek isles instead of doing something more constructive for his campaign – like nailing this down first. The requirements aren’t onerous unless you don’t have the organization/volunteers and a modicum of cash to spread around.
Bob in VA on December 24, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Oh, I dunno. Maybe he thought the Greco-American vote in Virginia would pull him through.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 2:06 PM

it is really interesting reading the comments on HotAir..

there are two types of readers:

those who are rational, sentient and educated voters with principles they stand by. They realize that the failure by Gingrich and Perry to even gain ballot access IN A SOUTHERN STATE demonstrates how those two campaigns are total jokes..

then the other group of posters: hypocrites, conspiracy theorists, ideologues and ignoramuses. Yeah, the entire media of the country will be covering this now but it is a huge conspiracy by the Virginia GOP to help their guys, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON’T SUPPORT ROMNEY but instead back other candidates..

AirForceCane on December 24, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Go Steelers!

Philly on December 24, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Oh, I dunno. Maybe he thought the Greco-American vote in Virginia would pull him through.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Or maybe he thinks his Pets and Music will pull him through.

JPeterman on December 24, 2011 at 2:14 PM

Over and out kids!

A very merry and blessed Christmas to you all. Safe travels in your visits!

Heather

herm2416 on December 24, 2011 at 2:14 PM

AirForceCane on December 24, 2011 at 2:07 PM

You forget that many commenters here also suspected that the SEIU/ACORN/George Soros bussed people in to DC and New York City which was the reason for Obamas delay in announcing bin Laden’s death. Goofy unsubstantiated conspiracy theories are unfortunately par for the course here.

mmnowakjr85 on December 24, 2011 at 2:14 PM

I think it’s clear at this point that the United States is pretty much done for. There is no path forward. We’re screwed. Worse, our kids are completely S.O.L.

There’s no ambiguity about this–we did it to ourselves.

Happy Christmas.

ElectricPhase on December 24, 2011 at 2:15 PM

Anyone considered that this big freak’n mess is just a symptom that the Republican Party disintegrating from the bottom?

Who the hell cares to beat the streets collecting 10K signatures for another progressive. The RP leadership squandered its last two best opportunities to force a balanced budget: lying about non-existent “savings” in March, and virtually guaranteeing a $2T military cut and $4T tax hike in August.

The only value of the Republican party now is as a light alternative to progressive democrats, something to share the blame for progressive sabotage of America and to keep a genuine constitutionalist alternative from emerging that threatens DC.

I am so over this pathetic deckchair game.

elfman on December 24, 2011 at 2:18 PM

Thanks for playing, Team Gingrich. Maybe you should have hired some lawyers with election law experience instead of the pretty boy smart asses you have surrounding you. You could have used the 50K your campaign payed YOU for access to your own mailing lists.

boko fittleworth on December 24, 2011 at 2:20 PM

AirForceCane on December 24, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Sounds more like you are the joke. Two types of people on Hot Air? Those who support someone other than Romney and those who support Romney. Does one have much of a bias problem? Does one have much of a myopic vision problem? I tend to think there are two types of people on Hot Air, those who are stuck on supporting their progressive masters and those who are individuals able to decide who they are going to support on the merits they so chose. I sure hope your master is giving you enough coin to make it worth your while.

astonerii on December 24, 2011 at 2:21 PM

No excuse.

Ronnie on December 24, 2011 at 2:21 PM

This proves that Gingrich and Perry are totally media created candidates.

People like Ed Morrisey, for what ever reason have been pumping up these losers. But there is no real support for them. Is Ed on Gingrich/Perry payroll? Or just the Christian broadcast establishment payroll?

People who still primarily come to Hot Air have missed the important things that have happened in the campaign this year.

The right wing Internet establishment has been brain washing as hard as they can.

But it won’t work.

Romney will be President. He has honest real supporters that aren’t blowing in the winds of Internet fashion and talk radio fads.

Merry Christmas.

petunia on December 24, 2011 at 2:22 PM

I want someone with good organization on the ground…I dont care who it is.(except for Paul)
Clearly organization is something Newt and Perry do not have..

zonie on December 24, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Oh, I dunno. Maybe he thought the Greco-American vote in Virginia would pull him through.
whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Or maybe he thinks his Pets and Music will pull him through.
JPeterman on December 24, 2011 at 2:14 PM

You add dancing midgets and I think it would seal the deal.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 2:27 PM

People like Ed Morrisey, for what ever reason have been pumping up these losers.
petunia on December 24, 2011 at 2:22 PM

That’s Morrissey. And it’s not nice to pick on a seasoned citizen.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 2:30 PM

The establishment gets its Christmas present.

El_Terrible on December 24, 2011 at 2:33 PM

You add dancing midgets and I think it would seal the deal.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 2:27 PM

I get the feeling Calista has a hand in this…

zonie on December 24, 2011 at 2:37 PM

People like Ed Morrisey, for what ever reason have been pumping up these losers.
petunia on December 24, 2011 at 2:22 P

I see that the EST didn’t help and you are still an obnoxious tool. But hey we missed you.

Rio Linda Refugee on December 24, 2011 at 2:37 PM

Actually, the two types of commenters are shameless shills for a particular candidate and those very few who snark on everybody equally.

Steve Eggleston on December 24, 2011 at 2:38 PM

herm2416 on December 24, 2011 at 2:14 PM

right back at ya :)

Merry Christmas everyone!! See you in a couple of days!

cmsinaz on December 24, 2011 at 2:40 PM

Or maybe he thinks his Pets and Music will pull him through.
JPeterman on December 24, 2011 at 2:14 PM

You add dancing midgets and I think it would seal the deal.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 2:27 PM

I don’t understand why that story didn’t make it to the front page this week, unless I missed it since I’m out of the country.

Newt whining about Mitt’s attack ad’s and Newt comes up with the brilliant “Newt likes pets and Calista will help teach you to play french horn”.

Seriously?

JPeterman on December 24, 2011 at 2:42 PM

petunia on December 24, 2011 at 2:22 PM

You would make a GREAT democrat.
I’ve been enjoying your posts for years!
Please think about changing your registration to democrat!

BedBug on December 24, 2011 at 2:43 PM

petunia on December 24, 2011 at 2:22 PM

I was going to vote for Vatt Romneycare in the general, but a few more posts from petunia and I’ll vote Trump–even though I hate the man–and Obama will get another term.

Deck the halls with boughs of folly….

ElectricPhase on December 24, 2011 at 2:44 PM

The establishment gets its Christmas present.

El_Terrible on December 24, 2011 at 2:33 PM

Not yet

Dr Evil on December 24, 2011 at 2:44 PM

You add dancing midgets and I think it would seal the deal.
whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 2:27 PM

I get the feeling Calista has a hand in this…
zonie on December 24, 2011 at 2:37 PM

Heh.
I was thinking there of a line from “Arthur” the father-in-law on King Of Queens re: The Wizard Of Oz:
“I understand there are midgets in it, which just spells funny.”

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 2:45 PM

The establishment gets its Christmas present.
El_Terrible on December 24, 2011 at 2:33 PM

If so, it was the Gingrich and Perry campaigns (such as they are) that provided the gift.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 2:47 PM

Oh well. If Obama is going to win, I hope the (D) takes Congress too. All blame will go to them when this country crashes and we can purge out the RINO’s and rebuild as a strong Conservative Republican Party.

Decoski on December 24, 2011 at 2:49 PM

Gingrich could have gone to any college campus and hired any random historian for $1.6 million to get advice about signatures.

But maybe Freddie Mac had already snatched up all the historians.

kunegetikos on December 24, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Oh well. If Obama is going to win, I hope the (D) takes Congress too. All blame will go to them when this country crashes and we can purge out the RINO’s and rebuild as a strong Conservative Republican Party.

Decoski on December 24, 2011 at 2:49 PM

Did you miss 2008? They had all of that and the people still think that everything is the fault of the GOP. A lapdog media can do that for you.

Rio Linda Refugee on December 24, 2011 at 2:54 PM

Way to kill voter turnout in 2012.

El_Terrible on December 24, 2011 at 2:56 PM

The establishment gets its Christmas present.

El_Terrible on December 24, 2011 at 2:33 PM

“The Establishment”… For the Love of God lets not set up another circular firing squad like the last time.

V7_Sport on December 24, 2011 at 2:58 PM

“The Establishment”… For the Love of God lets not set up another circular firing squad like the last time.
V7_Sport on December 24, 2011 at 2:58 PM

Like, it’s the establishment, man.
(Hippie, circa 1967)

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:00 PM

[petunia on December 24, 2011 at 2:22 PM]

Romney/Petunia 2012: When you need Take-No-Prisoners brand Bomb-throwing Gel” for the Great Hair look.

Dusty on December 24, 2011 at 3:02 PM

“All blame will go to them when this country crashes and we can purge out the RINO’s and rebuild as a strong Conservative Republican Party.

Decoski on December 24, 2011 at 2:49 PM”

Rinos have a roach like genetic trait for survival and a great deal of them probably constitute the Republican leadership.

As for the Virginia ballot, I think this is all a sham, they want Romney and they are gonna get Romney!

Africanus on December 24, 2011 at 3:02 PM

Whoever claims this nation is conservative in its heart is kidding himself. It takes epic failure on the part of a Dem to lose. Hussein has not done anything of value yet it’s all uphill to make the point to the public. They love their giveaways and enablers and no one does it better than Barry O.

I have written off the public and the voting process. I have to make my own life despite the stupidity and utter callousness of 21st century America. I suggest you jump off the ____ Train and ask God to give you your personal reason to face the future.

leftnomore on December 24, 2011 at 3:03 PM

Did you miss 2008? They had all of that and the people still think that everything is the fault of the GOP. A lapdog media can do that for you.

Rio Linda Refugee on December 24, 2011 at 2:54 PM

Did you miss 2010? After they had all that, the people marched in the streets and swept the elections with

professed

conservatives. I’m hear that about 20% are still constitutional conservatives. The rest have turned.

elfman on December 24, 2011 at 3:07 PM

God I wish preview still worked.

elfman on December 24, 2011 at 3:08 PM

As for the Virginia ballot, I think this is all a sham, they want Romney and they are gonna get Romney!
Africanus on December 24, 2011 at 3:02 PM

There was no “ballot”. The Gingrich and Perry campaigns simply were not organized enough to get even the minimum amount of valid signatures to be on the ballot.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:11 PM

God I wish preview still worked.
elfman on December 24, 2011 at 3:08 PM

Probably your browser. I don’t know that anyone else is having a problem. Try shutting down your browser and cleaning it, then login to HA again.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:12 PM

“There was no “ballot”. The Gingrich and Perry campaigns simply were not organized enough to get even the minimum amount of valid signatures to be on the ballot.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:11 PM”

No need to pretend you didn’t understand what I was referring too. I simply believe this is a matter of politics and until we actually get real facts, yes your thinking is quite simple. The Republicans obviously need their own ACORN so they can sign up
Mickey Mouse and Hitler.

Africanus on December 24, 2011 at 3:17 PM

I want someone with good organization on the ground…I dont care who it is.(except for Paul)
Clearly organization is something Newt and Perry do not have..

zonie on December 24, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Obama has the number one ground game and organizations other people’s money can buy.

astonerii on December 24, 2011 at 3:20 PM

That Sarah Palin sure is dumb. No money and no boots on the ground. Absolutely no organizational skills at all. Just how does she think she can pull this off? Oh…wait….

Mirimichi on December 24, 2011 at 3:22 PM

How convenient for Romney! It smells too good to be true.

The most important election in years and it looks like Obama against Obama-lite!n And, there will be no debate because one can’t function without a teleprompter, and Mr. Petulant won’t answer questions unless he can write them and then read his canned answers!

God, America is on its knees and the rest of the world is waiting for the face plant.

This public self-destruction of the Republican Party is so pathetic!

Sparky5253 on December 24, 2011 at 3:22 PM

Perry would be the front-runner right now if hadn’t begun by incriminating the base, then proceeded to amnesia and the gaffe-tastic. And now this.

“They,” “the establishment,” did not employ secret and illicit occult power and anti-Palin-istical talismans to put a hex on anti-RINO-palooza-ism.

kunegetikos on December 24, 2011 at 3:22 PM

“There was no “ballot”. The Gingrich and Perry campaigns simply were not organized enough to get even the minimum amount of valid signatures to be on the ballot.
whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:11 PM”

No need to pretend you didn’t understand what I was referring too. I simply believe this is a matter of politics and until we actually get real facts, yes your thinking is quite simple. The Republicans obviously need their own ACORN so they can sign up
Mickey Mouse and Hitler.
Africanus on December 24, 2011 at 3:17 PM

I wasn’t pretending anything. This is nothing more than a huge fail by the Gingrich and Perry campaigns. When Giuliani, Huckabee, Thompson, Kucinich and Richardson can manage to meet the bare minimum requirement, there’s just no excuse for failing.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:23 PM

“They,” “the establishment,” did not employ secret and illicit occult power and anti-Palin-istical talismans to put a hex on anti-RINO-palooza-ism.
kunegetikos on December 24, 2011 at 3:22 PM

Yup. “The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves”.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM

Have fun listening to Newt whine all week about how Virginia’s system is “fundamentally flawed”.

Drink up!

JPeterman on December 24, 2011 at 1:23 PM

You left off the other word Newt loves to use to sound like the smartest man in the room….he will be saying it is fundamentally and PROFOUNDLY flawed.

jibjab75 on December 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM

herm2416 on December 24, 2011 at 2:14 PM

right back at ya :)

Merry Christmas everyone!! See you in a couple of days!

cmsinaz on December 24, 2011 at 2:40 PM

*tips margarita Baileys!*

herm2416 on December 24, 2011 at 3:27 PM

Merry Christmas everyone!! See you in a couple of days!
cmsinaz on December 24, 2011 at 2:40 PM

*tips margarita Baileys!*
herm2416 on December 24, 2011 at 3:27 PM

*tips cheap rum and coke*
:D

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:29 PM

I wasn’t pretending anything. This is nothing more than a huge fail by the Gingrich and Perry campaigns. When Giuliani, Huckabee, Thompson, Kucinich and Richardson can manage to meet the bare minimum requirement, there’s just no excuse for failing.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:23 PM

I won’t speak for you. But that is all true. Then again, I am not going to flip my support to the two people who did get onto that singular ballot. Neither of those two would be remotely representative of me in office. I will not pretend that they would be. My support first goes to Bachmann if she is still in the race and next to Santorum if he is in the race and finally to Newt if he is still in the race when it gets my turn to go to the polls. The rest of the contenders are not on my list of certain to supports. Perry is about three steps outside my comfort zone, Huntsman about 20, Romney is around 25 and Ron Paul is at least a full parsec.

astonerii on December 24, 2011 at 3:30 PM

I have no problem voting for Romney, Perry, Newt, Santorum, Bachman or Huntsman…no problem at all
There is too much at stake to vote third party or stay home..

zonie on December 24, 2011 at 3:31 PM

First off there are plenty of us on HA and across the country that will enthusiastically vote for Romney!

Second, I am a little disappointed in many conservatives here that are complaining about the rules that ALL candidates have known have been in place. If YOUR candidate did not get the required signatures and the amount from each county or district as laid out then that shows the weakness of either his support and or organization. Thus the very reason why states require signatures.

Third, do not bemoan other candidates strength of support and or organization because yours did not as this makes you sound like a liberal whining about the “rules” that your candidate failed to meet.

I have not posted on here for a couple of weeks because HA was and still is the “let’s bash Romney” site despite his wide support amongst many conservatives across the country.

Many of you discredited yourselves when Kelly Ayotte, Nikki Haley, Tom Tomson (NH TP favorite) and others came out in support of Romney and many of you called them RINO’s! Ridiculous.

Above all this political speak though, I want to wish you all a Merry Christmas!

g2825m on December 24, 2011 at 1:13 PM

Thank you for this post…It is refreshing to see some sanity expressed and gives me hope that there are enough Republicans in the country that understand that it is essential that we get the white house out of the hands of this communist before he brings us to utter ruin.

jibjab75 on December 24, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Easy answer for Perry / Newt supporters, vote Ron Paul in the primary.

This denies Romney most of the delegates and basically nullifies the VA primary results.

Ron Paul will not be allowed to win the Repub nomination, so this would be a “win” for the Conservatives. Twilight zone……but it would work.

IMHO Perry / West 2012.

tonotisto on December 24, 2011 at 3:32 PM

I wasn’t pretending anything. This is nothing more than a huge fail by the Gingrich and Perry campaigns. When Giuliani, Huckabee, Thompson, Kucinich and Richardson can manage to meet the bare minimum requirement, there’s just no excuse for failing.
whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:23 PM

I won’t speak for you. But that is all true. Then again, I am not going to flip my support to the two people who did get onto that singular ballot. Neither of those two would be remotely representative of me in office. I will not pretend that they would be. My support first goes to Bachmann if she is still in the race and next to Santorum if he is in the race and finally to Newt if he is still in the race when it gets my turn to go to the polls. The rest of the contenders are not on my list of certain to supports. Perry is about three steps outside my comfort zone, Huntsman about 20, Romney is around 25 and Ron Paul is at least a full parsec.
astonerii on December 24, 2011 at 3:30 PM

When it comes down to most often in the end is “who’s got game” and who doesn’t.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:33 PM

I wasn’t pretending anything. This is nothing more than a huge fail by the Gingrich and Perry campaigns. When Giuliani, Huckabee, Thompson, Kucinich and Richardson can manage to meet the bare minimum requirement, there’s just no excuse for failing.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:23 PM

“In 2008, two presidential candidates very nearly failed to meet the minimum requirement of 400 signatures from the Third Congressional District and almost missed the ballot as a result. Which brings us to this year, when it is probable that at least one and possibly more of the major GOP candidates will fail to qualify for the Virginia ballot.

This is especially unfortunate because this year, for the first time in decades, the GOP nomination likely will not be all-but decided before Virginia’s primary, and thus Virginia’s primary will truly matter. But due to Virginia’s unreasonable ballot access requirements, all the surviving candidates may not be on the Virginia ballot—which means those candidates wouldn’t campaign here, and Virginia’s voters would have fewer choices. Even as Virginia has moved up in the primary calendar, it risks marginalizing itself in the presidential selection process as its petition drives become harder and more expensive, and as more candidates fail to succeed or even to attempt them.

It doesn’t have to be this way. A few years ago, the Virginia Democrats circulated one petition on behalf of all primary candidates, but the Republican Party of Virginia has not seen fit to follow that sensible step.”

ZGMF_Freedom on December 24, 2011 at 3:34 PM

If the good people of Virginia want to embarrass the political class and ruling elitists, they should select Ron Paul if they only have him or Romney to choose from. It should be entertaining watching them squirm.

karenhasfreedom on December 24, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Newt should have retained ACORN for help.

galtani on December 24, 2011 at 3:37 PM

“But due to Virginia’s unreasonable ballot access requirements”
ZGMF_Freedom on December 24, 2011 at 3:34 PM

Which others, both past and present, found no problem to hurdle.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:38 PM

The republican party is sure letting us know who they want as their nominee. Stupid fools should realize all they’re doing is alienating potential voters.
Virginia’s primary isn’t until March. They should let all the candidates on the ballot.
The democrat party doesn’t check every signature, they let Mickey, Donald, and Pluto signatures count.
If they continue this bullsh*t, people like me will vote down ticket, but leave the top spot empty.
Merry Christmas.

lonestar1 on December 24, 2011 at 3:39 PM

Newt should have retained ACORN for help.
galtani on December 24, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Actually, he did fine all by himself in getting junk signatures that were not valid. Hence, his (and Perry’s) problem.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM

As a historian, Newt clearly understands VA’s ballot access laws better than lawyers.

JustRight on December 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM

So, do the backers of the other Non-Romneys vote for Paul to stop Romney or vote for Romney to avoid promoting Paul? Or do most just not show up?

KW64 on December 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM

“I wasn’t pretending anything. This is nothing more than a huge fail by the Gingrich and Perry

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:23 PM”

Lol, then don’t parse words with me as anyone with common sense clearing understood my meaning. For those who couldn’t understand, well nature has been cruel to them. They might have failed, but I would love to actually see why and how.

I am not a great supporter of Mr. Heartless and Mr. Self Absorbed Genius Debater, but I do think people deserve a choice from the top contenders. Mr Manikin and Fruitloops {I will legalize drugs as king of the Ronulans} shouldn’t be their only choices.

Oh yes, most of those boards can do what they damn well please. I call shenanigins! Everyone get their broomsticks!

Africanus on December 24, 2011 at 3:41 PM

Which others, both past and present, found no problem to hurdle.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Except for the 2 Presidential candidates in 2008 that had problems with the 3rd congressional district and the 5 Presidential candidates in 2012 that failed to get on the ballot entirely.

ZGMF_Freedom on December 24, 2011 at 3:41 PM

Considering that fewer people are Republican or Democrats these days, it is going to be increasingly difficult for the parties to gain enough signatures when they have many candidates on the ballot.

Look, the extreme polarizing that the parties are going through is simply driving an increasing number of Americans out of them. They don’t want a far left or a far right social agenda forced on them from Washington, DC. They want to be left alone to live their lives as they see fit without government sticking its nose into it (left or right).

Most Americans are not “staunch” conservatives or “staunch” liberals. They a “staunch” Americans and have a fiercely independent streak. What we need to focus in in the parties is “role of government” issues in the way of things like overall economic policies and such. It is clear that both parties are losing on the “the role of government is to dictate social policy” idea.

crosspatch on December 24, 2011 at 3:41 PM

[ZGMF_Freedom on December 24, 2011 at 3:34 PM]

Where’s that from?

Dusty on December 24, 2011 at 3:43 PM

[ZGMF_Freedom on December 24, 2011 at 3:34 PM]

Where’s that from?

Dusty on December 24, 2011 at 3:43 PM

The Ashby Lawfirm article everybody has been linking to.

ZGMF_Freedom on December 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM

http://www.ashby-law.com/better-things-to-do/

ZGMF_Freedom on December 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM

“I wasn’t pretending anything. This is nothing more than a huge fail by the Gingrich and Perry
whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:23 PM”

They might have failed, but I would love to actually see why and how.
Africanus on December 24, 2011 at 3:41 PM

It’s pretty obvious, Gingrich and Perry showed no hustle. They thought a last minute panic attempt to garner sigs would save them. They thought wrong. That’s all there is to it.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM

8th look at Trump?

workingclass artist on December 24, 2011 at 3:45 PM

Question of the day: why did the Virginia GOP change the rules so that anyone who collected 15,000 signatures would not have to have those signatures verified JUST LAST MONTH?

http://www.damndirtyrino.com/2011/12/23/its-gonna-be-a-slow-news-day/#comment-7733

workingclass artist on December 24, 2011 at 3:47 PM

The Gingrich shills just wave off the fact that Gingrich has NEVER won anything more than a local congressional seat in a conservative district

he has NEVER won statewide office, or even run for statewide office

the last time Newtie was elected to anything was 1998- 14 years ago!!

maybe he should have taken some of the Fannie payouts and invested in Virginia- rather than in Calistas’ diamond collection from Tiffanys?

AirForceCane on December 24, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Why is there. O criticism for the failure of Santorum, Bachmann, or Hunt to get ballot qualified, too? Why just pile on Perry and Gingrich? Frankly, I hope this helps to get us a brokered convention and a whole bunch of tea partiers get themselves elected as delegates. Then there can be a takeover of the party at the convention and the RINOS get purged from power.

karenhasfreedom on December 24, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Ack. iPhone fat fingers. Should have said NO criticism

karenhasfreedom on December 24, 2011 at 3:49 PM

I’m gonna blame Ron Paul as soon as I can figure out the inner workings of the confound conspiracy.

Unfortunately, I’ll have to wait ’til after dinner tomorrow so I can figger it out on account of Mrs. H.B. has jacked all my tin foil to cover the seasonal confections.

honeybadger on December 24, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Why is there. O criticism for the failure of Santorum, Bachmann, or Hunt to get ballot qualified, too?
karenhasfreedom on December 24, 2011 at 3:47 PM

They made no submission of ballot petitions to the state party.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Ack. iPhone fat fingers. Should have said NO criticism
karenhasfreedom on December 24, 2011 at 3:49 PM

LOL, I took your O (uppercase letter) to mean “zero” anyway.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:51 PM

If Romney gets the nomination, I will vote 3rd party even if It helps Obama. Can’t believe people want Romney after Mccain failed in 2008.

davemason2k on December 24, 2011 at 3:52 PM

It’s pretty obvious, Gingrich and Perry showed no hustle. They thought a last minute panic attempt to garner sigs would save them. They thought wrong. That’s all there is to it.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM

The campaigns, one struggling and one newly ascendent were both starving for cash. The leadership decided to focus their money on the bellweather states of Iowa and NH. 10,000 signatures were required and a bare minimum of 11,000 were submitted. Due to various technicalities (non-duplex sheets, notarized copies) over 1,000 signatures were disqualified.

ZGMF_Freedom on December 24, 2011 at 3:52 PM

When it comes down to most often in the end is “who’s got game” and who doesn’t.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Further down the road, which is where I am looking often enough to make choices that matter in that time frame, I tend to find that some people will end up causing nearly as much harm as Obama will, but the blame will be placed on the brand Republican, and the media will drive it deeply into the psyche of the population, which is highly malleable in this regard, to kick the republicans out of power again, once again unleashing a Democrat majority house and senate and white house to do those evil for which they are certain to do.

The vast number of Republicans in office today do not want to do the hard things that are required to be done. They are only going to do them kicking and screaming behind closed doors by a President who is perfectly willing to do the extremely dirty work of twisting their arms and forcing them to relinquish the power that they currently possess.

I personally think that out of those running there really is only one person who will do that work. His name is Newton Leroy Gingrich. I have faith that he is willing to do that work because between the years of 1988 and 1998 he was spearheading just such an effort. The first part was bringing together a coalition of people to create the very first republican majority in 40 years. Creating the road map those people would use to govern with in the Contract with America. Finally, forcing those in power, called the old bulls, to give up some of the power they had just been allowed to use for the first time in 40 years. When it was all said and done, they immorally tried him for ethics violations, all of which he was found not guilty of, but instead found him guilty of a clerical error made by his attorney that he did not catch, but he himself had freely admitted was in error in multiple other filed papers and in person testimony.

We got welfare reform, we got balanced budgets, we got deregulation of the telecommunications system and we got a better government out of it. Newt got railroaded after he accomplished much. I have faith that he is willing to get back to work on the task of helping America become a much freer and much more prosperous nation.

astonerii on December 24, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Did you miss 2008? They had all of that and the people still think that everything is the fault of the GOP. A lapdog media can do that for you.

Rio Linda Refugee on December 24, 2011 at 2:54 PM

It was too close to Bush’s term. Give them complete power for another four years and there will only be the brainwashed Obama drones that will still blame Bush.

Decoski on December 24, 2011 at 3:56 PM

Romney is a worse conservative than Mccain was in 2008. Good job GOP

davemason2k on December 24, 2011 at 3:58 PM

It’s pretty obvious, Gingrich and Perry showed no hustle. They thought a last minute panic attempt to garner sigs would save them. They thought wrong. That’s all there is to it.
whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM

The campaigns, one struggling and one newly ascendent were both starving for cash. The leadership decided to focus their money on the bellweather states of Iowa and NH. 10,000 signatures were required and a bare minimum of 11,000 were submitted. Due to various technicalities (non-duplex sheets, notarized copies) over 1,000 signatures were disqualified.
ZGMF_Freedom on December 24, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Eh. It’s political Darwinism, as it always has been. The weak and the slow are the first to become extinct. The ones who are aware of their surroundings have the best chance to survive.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:59 PM

Actually, he did fine all by himself in getting junk signatures that were not valid. Hence, his (and Perry’s) problem.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM

It would also be interesting to know the cause of the invalidation. On the one hand, some so called volunteers could actually sabotage the process by deliberately putting in fraudulent signatures either because they were too lazy to walk or because they actually were supporting another candidate. Alternatively were they poorly trained and did not follow the process?

In New York, they used to throw out whole sheets of signatures for a variety of picky reasons such as a mismatch between the affidavit statement of the collector on the number of signatures and the actual number on the sheet (a very easy error to make.) or a miswritten date that appeared to show a signature higher on the sheet to be written at a later date than those below. You had to be careful that your canvassers were carefully trained and not plants from opponents.

If it was poor training of canavassers, that would speak of disorganization but deliberate malfeasance by collectors would not so much.

KW64 on December 24, 2011 at 3:59 PM

The circumstances of being forced of the Virginia Republican Ballot obviously point to a Soro’s funded operation using invisible, but potent, microwaves to infect the Gingrich and Perry campaign staff. These microwaves have caused the aforementioned staffers to implode on the feast of festivus as part of Soro’s war on Christmas. Further proof of this is the fact that neither campaign would have hired staffers so stupid as to not know the legal requirements for getting on the ballot in Virginia.

smokin hot politics on December 24, 2011 at 4:00 PM

Why is there. O criticism for the failure of Santorum, Bachmann, or Hunt to get ballot qualified, too?
karenhasfreedom on December 24, 2011 at 3:47 PM

From everything I’m reading, those three never even bothered trying to submit signatures to Virginia. Which in my mind means they were never serious candidates to begin with.

JPeterman on December 24, 2011 at 4:00 PM

some of you are just pathetic…

if it was a democrat trying to pull getting out of the rules you would be screaming like a little child about how unfair it is for the libs to just do what they want…

when it is Newtie or Perry, it is suddenly fine to just ignore the RULES OF THE GAME, the LAW and the GOP and make things up as you go along?!!

what a freaking hypocrite you all are! if you can’t play by the rules in a GOP primary, how would these losers fare against Obama’s ACORN machine?!!

Romney and Paul did the work to get on the ballot, the others did not. simple as that!

AirForceCane on December 24, 2011 at 4:01 PM

“If Romney gets the nomination, I will vote 3rd party even if It helps Obama. Can’t believe people want Romney after Mccain failed in 2008.

davemason2k on December 24, 2011 at 3:52 PM”

Lol, why not just stay home then. I don’t like Mr. Manakin Romney, but I will vote for his ass over Obama. Besides you haven’t seen any of the VP choices yet, it might be a worth while conservative.

Africanus on December 24, 2011 at 4:01 PM

Romney is Hitler with hair tonic

davemason2k on December 24, 2011 at 4:03 PM

Again, if Bachmann, Hunt, and Santorum are supposed to be SERIOUS candidates (to quote whiney Michele), why did they not even attempt to qualify for the ballot? I think this is worse than trying and spectacularly failing. Why no criticism towards those 3 candidates? Does this mean Michele is really not a serious candidate but a Romney stalking horse after all?

karenhasfreedom on December 24, 2011 at 4:04 PM

Actually, he did fine all by himself in getting junk signatures that were not valid. Hence, his (and Perry’s) problem.
whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM

It would also be interesting to know the cause of the invalidation. On the one hand, some so called volunteers could actually sabotage the process by deliberately putting in fraudulent signatures either because they were too lazy to walk or because they actually were supporting another candidate. Alternatively were they poorly trained and did not follow the process?
In New York, they used to throw out whole sheets of signatures for a variety of picky reasons such as a mismatch between the affidavit statement of the collector on the number of signatures and the actual number on the sheet (a very easy error to make.) or a miswritten date that appeared to show a signature higher on the sheet to be written at a later date than those below. You had to be careful that your canvassers were carefully trained and not plants from opponents.
If it was poor training of canavassers, that would speak of disorganization but deliberate malfeasance by collectors would not so much.
KW64 on December 24, 2011 at 3:59 PM

The cause is pretty much moot. But I posit it has more to do with the last minute, panicked nature of the two campaigns in VA. Which would encompass your reasoning in that you usually trade quality for quantity when it’s a rush situation. It’s the nature of the “move ‘em out, move ‘em on, head ‘em out” Rawhide approach.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Not sure this means much . . . Running for POTUS is no small task. Perry got in late and had to start from scratch (unlike Perpetual Candidate Romney). Maybe organization isn’t Gingrich’s strong suit.

Anyway, if one of them has momentum going into Super Tues and a write-in isn’t an option, his supporters can simply vote for Paul to keep Romney from getting the VA delegates.

Yes, I’ll vote for Romney over Obama if it comes to that, but it hasn’t come to that. Holding out hope for Perry.

jazz_piano on December 24, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Have a merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, great holiday, or “you can try my Kwanzaa CDs. They’re not yours. You don’t have to take any of them.”

“Tuna, eggs, Doritos, cheese cake, tamales – See ya!”

kunegetikos on December 24, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Again, if Bachmann, Hunt, and Santorum are supposed to be SERIOUS candidates (to quote whiney Michele), why did they not even attempt to qualify for the ballot? I think this is worse than trying and spectacularly failing. Why no criticism towards those 3 candidates? Does this mean Michele is really not a serious candidate but a Romney stalking horse after all?
karenhasfreedom on December 24, 2011 at 4:04 PM

I believe they dipped their toes in the waters and had few takers. Suspect sigs that were not enough and not even worthy of submitting in the first place. As to why they are not criticized for not having made the cut: 1) they are not seen as serious contenders and 2) they’re not bellyaching about it – but both Newt and Perry are.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Romney is Hitler with hair tonic

You do realize that nobody will ever take anything you write here seriously again, yes?

What a prat.

Esoteric on December 24, 2011 at 4:11 PM

Conspiracy

gerrym51 on December 24, 2011 at 4:11 PM

Have a merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, great holiday, or “you can try my Kwanzaa CDs.
kunegetikos on December 24, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Nah, wrong video. Try this:
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, etc.

whatcat on December 24, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Why no criticism towards those 3 candidates?
karenhasfreedom on December 24, 2011 at 4:04 PM

I’m with whatcat–they’re not really seen as serious contenders, at least by most of us.

jazz_piano on December 24, 2011 at 4:12 PM

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