Gingrich also fails to qualify for Virginia ballot; Update: Gingrich promises write-in campaign; Update: Are write-ins for primaries illegal in VA?
posted at 9:15 am on December 24, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
Hey, what’s the big deal? It’s only, er, the state in which Gingrich currently lives:
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has failed to qualify for Virginia’s March 6 Republican primary, a development that complicates his bid to win the GOP presidential nomination.
“After verification, RPV has determined that Newt Gingrich did not submit required 10k signatures and has not qualified for the VA primary,” the Republican Party of Virginia announced early Saturday on its Twitter website.
This follows the failure of Rick Perry to make the primary ballot, announced earlier last night. Which is more egregious? Perry had a lot more money and resources on which to call to get his ducks in a row than Gingrich, but this is Gingrich’s home state now, and has been for the last 12 years. A basic test in the primaries is whether a candidate can win his home state, so the failure to even qualify for the ballot is an even worse failure.
The news couldn’t come at a worse time, either. Gingrich’s numbers had already been falling in Iowa, but there had been a sense that the slide had been arrested, if not started to reverse itself a little. This failure calls into question Gingrich’s managerial competence all over again, which has taken a beating throughout this campaign — first when his staff walked out on him, and later when former House colleagues began to recall the circumstances of the rebellion that took place just a couple of years into his speakership.
The Virginia GOP can’t be enjoying this, either. Right now it looks like their early-ish March 6th primary will be an embarrassing flop, offering commonwealth Republicans a choice only between Mitt Romney and Ron Paul. One has to wonder whether the state party will be spending their Christmas holiday looking for loopholes to add the rest of the field to the ballot — and if they do, how they plan to defend themselves against likely court challenges from Romney, Paul, or their supporters. Right now, the suddenly impermeable ballot of Virginia is making the case for Romney on competence alone.
Drink heavily the eggnog this evening and next, my friends.
Update: Commenter Cindy Munford asks, “Mr. Morrissey, why didn’t Rep. Bachmann, Sen. Santorum, and Gov. Huntsman even bother to submit petitions? It sure makes it seem like Virginia wasn’t a priority, why is that?” Er … why are you asking my dad? Oh — “Mr. Morrissey” is me? Well, OK. Bachmann and Santorum don’t have the resources to put people on the ground in Virginia; they’re both sinking everything they have into Iowa. I don’t think anyone expected them to qualify for the Virginia ballot. Huntsman does have considerable resources, and he should have been able to compete in Virginia, so I’m not sure why he didn’t bother to try.
Dad says hello, by the way.
Update II: Team Gingrich lays this at the feet of Virginia, and promises “an aggressive write-in campaign”:
“Only a failed system excludes four out of the six major candidates seeking access to the ballot. Voters deserve the right to vote for any top contender, especially leading candidates. We will work with the Republican Party of Virginia to pursue an aggressive write-in campaign to make sure that all the voters of Virginia are able to vote for the candidate of their choice.”
Well, the same “failed system” allowed six GOP and six Democratic campaigns to qualify for the ballot in 2008 — including, as Doug Mataconis reminds us, those establishment candidates Alan Keyes [see below, no] and Dennis Kucinich. I’m pretty sure neither of those campaigns were drowning in cash this time four years ago, either. As for the potential success of a write-in campaign, it’s difficult to see how that will work when Gingrich’s team couldn’t even get enough people on the street to sign their own names to petitions, let alone write his name on a ballot.
Update III: Steve Eggleston offers a devastating comment to Team Gingrich’s attempt to accuse Virginia of blocking ballot access:
I’d like to know whether he considers Bachmann, Huntsman, or Santorum not a major candidate, or whether he realizes none of those three so much as submitted signatures.
Are they paying attention at all?
Update IV: Actually, Doug’s wrong [see next upate] — Keyes wasn’t on 2008 GOP primary ballot, but it did have six candidates: Paul, Romney, McCain, Fred Thompson, Huckabee, and Giuliani. Democrats had six as well: Obama, Kucinich, Hillary Clinton, Bill Richardson, Biden, and John Edwards. And as I recall, the Fred Thompson campaign wasn’t exactly known for its energy and accomplishment.
Update V: I’m the one who got Doug’s tweet wrong, not Doug; he said Keyes got on the ballot in 2000, not 2008, which is true and goes directly to the same point. But even worse, it appears that the pledge to run a write-in campaign in Virginia has one eeensy little obstacle …. it’s illegal:
At all elections except primary elections it shall be lawful for any voter to vote for any person other than the listed candidates for the office by writing or hand printing the person’s name on the official ballot…
Doug marvels at how a major campaign could get this so wrong:
That’s the first sentence of Virginia Code Section 24.2-644(C). Considering that Newt is a resident of the Commonwealth one would think his campaign would be aware of such things. Actually, one would think his campaign would have been on top of this thing months ago.
Well … yeah.
Update VI: Some are asking if the requirements for petition signatures changed between 2008 and 2010. They did in 2010, but they appear to have gotten easier to collect, not more difficult. Instead of requiring a Social Security number for each signature, the law was changed from shall to may, only for the last four digits of the SSN.
Update VII: So how long did Perry, Gingrich, and everyone else have to collect their signatures? Steve Eggleston says more than five months:
In case you were in a cave this week, Rick Santorum, Jon Huntsman and Michele Bachmann failed to turn in any signatures to get on Virginia’s March 6 Presidential primary ballot, while Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich had enough of their under-12,000 signatures (11,911 and 11,050 respectively) signatures invalidated by the Republican Party of Virginia that they too missed the 10,000 (with at least 400 from each of the 11 Congressional districts). …
For those of you wondering whether the 10,000 threshhold is so strenuous, nobody but the best-funded candidates can make the grade, do note tha the candidates could start collecting signatures back on July 1, and thus had over 5 1/2 months to get to 10,000. Further, there were 6 candidates on the 2008 Republican and 6 candidates on the 2008 Democrat Virginia primary ballots, including Dennis Kucinich on the Democrat side.










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Nonsense. How did Romney and Paul manage to overcome these horrendous stumbling blocks? It may not be thrilling that this pretty much ensures a Romney win, but for heaven’s sake don’t dig deep into the democrat excuse bag and start crying about the rules. The same process applied to everyone. You want to cry and stomp about election fraud? Save your powder for the 2012 contest. You’ll have lots to cry and stomp about, I imagine.
Rational Thought on December 24, 2011 at 11:50 AM
Posted this on the other thread but I’ll repost it here. I support(ed?) Gingrich (and Cain before him, and Palin before she counted herself out) but this is a sad sad joke.
Lord the fail is strong here …this is how a COMPETENT campaign runs an election:
McCain/Romney/Paul/Huckabee VA campaign HQ circa 2007:
A slightly less competent version circa well this year:
Gingrich, Perry, Santorum, Bachmann, Huntsman, etc Campaigns 2011
Bottom line: to get on the primary here in VA it’s really not that hard. You have to follow the LAW that was put in place by the Commonwealth in 1996, not some magic rules created by the GOP that change every year.
Also Virginia primary rules can be found here
SgtSVJones on December 24, 2011 at 11:51 AM
I don’t know that they really did. That’s the problem I have with it.
ddrintn on December 24, 2011 at 11:52 AM
The stampede for this deal will make yestedays AirJordan Shoe brawl look like a pre-school shoving match.
I wonder how many deaths there will be?
portlandon on December 24, 2011 at 11:53 AM
It’s already been paid for, he just can’t pick it up until Nov.’12.
Rio Linda Refugee on December 24, 2011 at 11:53 AM
Very interesting… Thanks for the repost.
Fallon on December 24, 2011 at 11:54 AM
If they canvass both Romney and Paul’s signatures, and it ends up only Paul qualifies for the primary ballot in Virginia. Because we all know how committed Paulbots are, they probably signed in their own blood LOL! Virginia republicans get stuck with awarding all their delegates to Ron Paul. That would be like, Irony or Karma or Restoring Balance To The Universe or something ;)
Dr Evil on December 24, 2011 at 11:55 AM
well, crud
29Victor on December 24, 2011 at 11:55 AM
So you think it reasonable to invalidate the will of the voters who signed on single sided paper? I don’t. The requirement is that the campaigns get over 10,000 signatures. Perry and Gingrich got over 10,000 signatures. They should be on the ballot.
ZGMF_Freedom on December 24, 2011 at 11:56 AM
Genuine question though: how many fairly prominent candidates have been left off the ballot since 1996 for lack of signatures?
ddrintn on December 24, 2011 at 11:57 AM
I hope both Newt & Perry contest and force a canvas of both Romney and Paul.
[workingclass artist on December 24, 2011 at 11:48 AM]
Sure. Me too. All’s far in love and politics, so give ‘em some love. It would be hilarous if VA couldn’t have a Republican primary. And that brings up a question. If there was no primary how do the VA Republicans direct their delegates to vote at the Convention.
Going again from NY rules, the state GOP selects a candidate and anyone else that wants to challenge that has to go the petition route. It appears VA doesn’t do that because all had to go through the petition process. If no one can be selected in a primary, can the state GOP then choose one? Is that an approach “home state” Gringrich should shoot for?
Dusty on December 24, 2011 at 11:57 AM
Ed’s so old his favorite software is a pillow.
TXUS on December 24, 2011 at 11:58 AM
Yeah, let’s have this cat take on the biggest managerial role in the world. #managerialincompetence.
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InVinoVeritas on December 24, 2011 at 11:59 AM
Has anyone asked the question of: Has this ever happened before? If so where?
Or is has there ever been primary fraud?
upinak on December 24, 2011 at 11:59 AM
The most incompetent newsletter publisher who ever lived can get this together. Why can’t long-time pros like Perry and Gingrich? The GOP apparatus should be firmly behind them. Is there nobody in the national organization who can step in?
TXGOP on December 24, 2011 at 11:59 AM
This has the smell of “the GOP establishment rigging the game for Romney” all over it. Not accusing. Just sayin. The parakeet is gone and the cat has feathers all around his mouth. Just sayin’.
NickDeringer on December 24, 2011 at 11:59 AM
Ed, according to this site the requirements are indeed more stringent and complicated this time around.
http://www.ashby-law.com/better-things-to-do/
I have a question. If a state has requirements that only two out of seven candidates can meet, for all practical reasons are said requirements not efficient or reasonable?
Gyro on December 24, 2011 at 12:00 PM
Gholly Gee whiz. Gingrich doesn’t get on VA ballot along with Perry, Bachman, Hunstman, blah blah blah. Just the latest story that basically says look how bad these candidates are compared to the GOP saviour Romney who can do no wrong, at least no wrong as far as what has been reported on by the establishment controlled media.
bgibbs1000 on December 24, 2011 at 12:01 PM
Well, sorry, but that’s just paranoia in the realm of the democrats. Occam’s razor — look for the most reasonable explanation. The reasonable explanation here says the Perry and Gingrich campaigns screwed up.
Rational Thought on December 24, 2011 at 12:01 PM
Lame Newt, very very Lame. Then again, since he is not behind prison bars, my support for Newt goes on! It is the Cainiac standard!
astonerii on December 24, 2011 at 12:02 PM
Forgot to quote the salient points so as to save time.
Virginia’s statutory ballot access requirement is, quite simply, one of if not the most daunting in the country: A minimum of 10,000 petition signatures collected statewide, including at least 400 from each of its 11 congressional districts. That’s hard enough. But then there are the additional restrictions: The petition circulators must be registered or eligible to vote in Virginia. The signatures must be gathered using the State Board of Elections’ official form, a two-page document which must be reproduced as double-sided. (Single-sided stapled forms are not accepted.) Signatures must be collected on forms that are specific to each city, county and congressional district. Only “qualified” voters may sign a petition. And every single petition form must be sworn and notarized.
Want a sense of how next-to-impossible this is? I know top-flight Virginia political consultants who turned down lucrative petition project contracts from presidential campaigns because they did not think it could be done.
http://www.ashby-law.com/better-things-to-do/
Gyro on December 24, 2011 at 12:03 PM
This is a mess. Ridiculous. I think VA is going to figure out a way to get them added to the ballot. Of course if they do, why can’t they just add a better candidate, like Palin.
Otherwise, if they don’t, can you imagine the convention messes if either Romney, or PAUL ends up as the nominee, because of all this mess going on in the GOP.
I can see obama winning because these people are in no way organized. This looks like they are all running to be president of the 5th gade at Woebegon Elementary.
One of two things is going to happen, either the GOP is headed for a brokered convention, or losing to obama in November. Things are so messed up right now that I am wondering, can we start all over again.
And you know who is to blame, the campaigns and Reince Priebus (of whom I have not seen on any Sunday show since he got elected the head of the GOP.) I knew when they elected him it was a collosal mistake and now we all see why. He just doesn’t know how to run an organization. What was he before he became the head of the RNC, he was head of the Wis. GOP, which the GOP has not won since Reagan was in the White House! (No blame to Wiscosin, but I just don’t think he was the man or woman to head the party.) We would have been much better off with go-getters like Saul Anuzis or Ann Wagner.
With all this mess going on in the primaries, the national GOP and Priebus have been so tight-lipped, you can’t even hear them breathe! Priebus needs to be fired.
2012 will be the year when the GOP snatched defeat from not just the mouth of victory, but it was alredy in the stomache and between congress and the candidates, it is screwed up!
There’s my rant. Something has go to give.
ConservativePartyNow on December 24, 2011 at 12:03 PM
The fix was in from day one, when romney “gracefully” bowed out so John “Tea partiers are hobbits” Mccain took the nomination, that’s why Mittens been campaigning from that point on, the GOP knows whats good for us, and we better know it.
if it’s a choice between Obama and Romney, i see no difference between the two on policy positions, at least Obama is consistent, and the more the country slides into the abyss, the more people will connect it to liberalism/progressvism/moderate republicanism.
The GOP has turned into the Tory party, a thin veneer of conservatism with a solid liberal platform, forced into that position due to the encroachment for decades of the potent nanny state that dictates all aspects of a citizens life. Once people become sated at the trough of big govt, it becomes harder and harder to argue conservative positions. This is what has happened to the republican party.
golembythehudson on December 24, 2011 at 12:03 PM
I’m about to jump on the Romney train…..with all the enthusiasm of being told to kiss my sister.
Great…another Dem light Republican as our nominee. When will there be an actual alternative to the status quo?
rickyricardo on December 24, 2011 at 12:03 PM
Ron Paul 2012
Dante on December 24, 2011 at 12:04 PM
The RNC should just come out NOW and De-Certify The Virginia Primary
If these people can construct rules that most people can follow – and they OBVIOUSLY can’t,
Then the RNC should just say “Virginia can have whatever they want, and they can call it a primary, if they want – but it is NOT associated with the Republican Party. We are withdrawing our association with this process.”
williamg on December 24, 2011 at 12:04 PM
Brokered convention 2012! Wooo!
Punchenko on December 24, 2011 at 12:05 PM
This site is turning into the DailyKooks. There is no evidence their ballots were rejected because of single-sided copying! They did NOT have enough valid signatures. They screwed up. Geez, the nanny state has done one helluva job of making cry babies out of everyone in this country — conservative and liberal. This VA debacle isn’t nearly as depressing as the response to it by so-called conservatives is.
Rational Thought on December 24, 2011 at 12:06 PM
Looks like you’re going to be saddled with another McCain.
Even with all your little tea party marches, your little rallies, and your big talk of small government and living by the constitution, it has come to this.
Very sad.
Doesn’t matter much anyway. Obama is going to win by big numbers.
BedBug on December 24, 2011 at 12:07 PM
I can’t answer that question as I’ve only FORMALLY lived here in the Commonwealth for the last nearly 2 years now. I started off as a transient college student from 2005-2008 and then moved back down here for good (April 2010) fleeing the jobless People’s Republic Of Maryland.
Speaking of which I REALLY need to get off of here, take a shower, pack, and head north to visit family (one of 2 times per year I do so).
So a Merry Christmas to everyone on here and may God watch over all of you this holiday season, especially in your travels.
Be safe, drive safe. See you all in a day or so.
SgtSVJones on December 24, 2011 at 12:07 PM
FIRST!
Public Unions – Leading the way into a brighter future
Bishop on December 24, 2011 at 12:10 PM
The Smiths? You best believe I had to wikipedia that one.
DHChron on December 24, 2011 at 12:10 PM
If I saw the signatures myself, I could say one way or the other. I haven’t, and you haven’t either. Therefore, the game is easily rigged. I’m not saying it is, I’m just saying it’s a possibility. As I asked before, have the rules always been so stringently applied?
ddrintn on December 24, 2011 at 12:10 PM
It’s time to fall in line behind the Republican nominee, Willard Mitt Romney.
Romney 2012: As if you had a say in the matter.
Punchenko on December 24, 2011 at 12:11 PM
Perry Campaign Team is looking into any legal action they can take. They have stated that this is an isolated incident, and doesn’t effect Rick Perry on any other state ballots.
O/T Merry Christmas
Shoshoni Elder Oldhands sings about Santa,
Stuck in the Smoke Hole of our Tipi.
Dr Evil on December 24, 2011 at 12:13 PM
Oh, give me a break. When there’s an alternative all you’d do is snark and b1tch the whole time. Romney’s the guy your type has given us.
ddrintn on December 24, 2011 at 12:13 PM
[SgtSVJones on December 24, 2011 at 11:51 AM]
Okay, thanks for that. Those rules — open primary and any registered voter can sign a petition can make it a little more difficult to do. The reason for this is that the voter rolls don’t identify party affiliation and so, petition carriers can’t zero in on who will most likely to sign a Republican petition. Dems won’t. Lot’s of Ind’s won’t. More time will be needed going door to door.
By the same token any Republican party veteran would know the best places to go for making signature collection easier, but it might still take more time and effort.
Still and all, a smart campaign would have been collecting names via an internet presence long before they needed to actually get signatures, making this whole process somewhat easier. If I were running a campaign I’d be looking for getting 15K people in VA to contribute $5 to my campaign so that I had 15k names in the state where I could possibly get signatures.
Dusty on December 24, 2011 at 12:14 PM
Ed’s so old he owes Moses a quarter.
Thanks for the smart debate/commentary Hot Air…Merry Christmas to all.
In closing, go Eagles…
and Ed’s old.
DHChron on December 24, 2011 at 12:14 PM
Bah Humbug, Republicans! The party could f#ck up a one horse parade. We deserve better, much better. The election of 2012 is turning into a joke and conservatives have no one to blame but ourselves. Merry Christmas.
Tonynoboloney on December 24, 2011 at 12:15 PM
Way to go GOP for recruiting such incompetent bozos. I might just not vote. I don’t think I can vote for Romney.
terryannonline on December 24, 2011 at 12:15 PM
punchenko, for once you are correct
gerrym51 on December 24, 2011 at 12:16 PM
That’s how the liberal game is played:
“I’m not saying George W. Bush was the mastermind of 9/11, only that he could have been. It’s a…possibility”
Ridiculous then. Ridiculous now.
Rational Thought on December 24, 2011 at 12:17 PM
” The new rules of the Virginia GOP “may” violate the Equal Protection clause, not for the candidates, but for the voters. Also, I would think the 15K benchmark to NOT have signatures verified would be held unconstitutional in a court of law. The big question is why was Paul certified to be on the ballot BEFORE his signatures were verified when he had less than 15K.
Virginia should have ALL its delegates removed if this is how they are going to conduct primaries. Why were the rules changed to benefit Mitt Romney? When were the rules changed? Was it before, or after, Romney garnered all those signatures last spring?
Ron Paul supporters are infamous for pouring into states to try to skew the election. His signatures, of all the candidates, should have been verified. But they were not prior to his being put on the ballot in Virginia.”
Comment thread at
http://www.damndirtyrino.com/2011/12/23/its-gonna-be-a-slow-news-day/
workingclass artist on December 24, 2011 at 12:17 PM
Only in the case of 9/11 it’s not a possibility. Analogy fail.
ddrintn on December 24, 2011 at 12:20 PM
After reading this board for years, I figure, with your posts, you would be thrilled with Romney.
Color me surprised.
But, I like your spirit. Stay home. Four more years of Obama is good for everyone.
BedBug on December 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM
I’m finding it hard not to be depressed about this.
GaltBlvnAtty on December 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM
By the way, be sure not to moan and groan the next time a trunkload of “lost” Dem ballots are found somewhere. Occam’s Razor and all that.
ddrintn on December 24, 2011 at 12:21 PM
So a friend at work just sent me a note calling this “Romney Rigging” and that he will not vote if that “cheating SOB” is the nominee.
Wow. This is going to get ugly.
Irritable Pundit on December 24, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Oh, goody! We’re going to accuse Republicans of violating voting rights! That’s the ticket. If Perry and Gingrich go down this road, they are going scorched earth and handing this election to Obama — they know they’re going to lose, but they’re damn sure going to make sure everyone else loses, too. And more conspiracies! Paul was certified early! Are there any adult conservatives left here at HotAir?
Rational Thought on December 24, 2011 at 12:22 PM
The arbitrary application of the canvassing rules in VA…Hello?
VA certified Paul even though he had under 15,000.
Something is rotting in Virgina
workingclass artist on December 24, 2011 at 12:23 PM
It’s one state. 49 delegates out of almost 2,286 total. Tempest in a teapot.
Robert_Paulson on December 24, 2011 at 12:23 PM
By that reasoning, every other candidate should just step aside right now and not interfere with Mitt’s coronation.
ddrintn on December 24, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Rational Thought on December 24, 2011 at 12:22 PM
If there is a legal challenge that could be part of the challenge.
Paul was certified without scrutiny even though he had less then 15,000 which was the number in the new rules.
Explain that…That Ron Paul is special
workingclass artist on December 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Hi Cindy ,
If I remember correctly in 2008 the RNSC under one John
Cornyn endorsed Mc Cain before the primary . That got a
lot of us pretty angry and may have had something to do
with a perceived or real alliance between Romney and
Rubio . Hope Rubio keeps his powder dry .
Sorry your guy didn’t make it in VA , mine did not either .
Internal politics in VA may be suspect as this happened so quickly .
I only know Fl and NM politics and , dear God , don’t get me started
on New Mexico !
Merry Christmas to you !
Lucano on December 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM
You nailed it. A totally appropriate campaign slogan.
I don’t know one person offline who’s enthusiastic about voting for Romney. And it’s hard to find them online.
TXGOP on December 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM
ddrintn on December 24, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Hey it worked for Obama in 2008
workingclass artist on December 24, 2011 at 12:27 PM
That’s my point. The democrats do cheat. Is your argument that democrats and Republicans cheat alike — there is no difference? Because I think of cheating as primarily the democrats’ game, and there’s a whole lot of evidence to point to that. I’m not going to be part of a movement to inoculate the democrats from that widely held perception by crafting a paranoid, ridoculous conspiracy when, in fact, Gingrich and Perry just screwed up. So, yeah, I’ll scream and yell if a load of democrat ballots are found in a trunk. But when members of the Republican party screw up and fail to get their names on a ballot? No. That just pisses me off because it means they’re stupid and unprepared.
Rational Thought on December 24, 2011 at 12:27 PM
I support voter ID. I want to say: “If you can’t get your act together enough to get a photo ID, you don’t deserve to vote.” I am finding it hard not hold a similar standard for the candidates, and I am no Romney or Paul supporter. How can I not say: “If you can’t get your act together enough to get on a ballot, you don’t deserve to run”?
GaltBlvnAtty on December 24, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Dear Newt,
You will be missed by someone, just not me.
First line I read this morning and bound to be the funniest all day. Merry Christmas!!!!
You know who this helps, right?
WILLARD RICKY 2012!
ROMNEY SANTORUM 2012!
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Newtie, don’t let the door hit ya…
Capitalist Hog on December 24, 2011 at 12:27 PM
What alternative? The tongue tied Palin? The fumbling Perry?
Yeah, a sure fire winners.
rickyricardo on December 24, 2011 at 12:28 PM
With Romney & Paul being the only ones on the VA. ballot, I’ll just pray that they both finish third.
Romney signed dramatic CO2 emission reductions for coal-fired power plants, then immediately put a price cap on what those coal-fired power plants could charge after getting hit with major new regulatory expenses.
Would a true capitalist impose price controls on businesses just because he could?
LFRGary on December 24, 2011 at 12:28 PM
Pretty sure that’s what he’s trying to suggest. I’m not buying it either.
Irritable Pundit on December 24, 2011 at 12:29 PM
What an absolute embarrassment. So my choices in March are Romney…or Paul? Um, no thanks.
changer1701 on December 24, 2011 at 12:29 PM
Ron Paul got enough, but Gingrinch didn’t? Seriously?
Count to 10 on December 24, 2011 at 12:29 PM
There is a reason the republican party is getting the label the stupid party. This doesn’t help Romney if this is the purpose of invalidating other viable candidates in Virginia by rejecting signatures and not counting them. What would have helped Mitt Romney is if Bachmann, Santorum and Huntsmann were also included on the ballot in Virginia.
I don’t blame Virginians in the least if they vote for Obama again in 2012.
Dr Evil on December 24, 2011 at 12:29 PM
It’s been getting ugly since the story came out about Romney’s people trying to crowd the primary calendar in FL & NV.
workingclass artist on December 24, 2011 at 12:30 PM
To top off, at least temporarily, my cup-full of disgust, I saw a quick video clip of Rove rubbing the non-successful candidates’ noses in this.
GaltBlvnAtty on December 24, 2011 at 12:30 PM
This would be my only complaint about this issue. I agree this does not look good for Newt and Perry, however the Virginia GOP is somewhat of a good ole boy operation that is loaded with Romney supporters. I am not saying they went out of their way to throw out signatures on purpose….but I am saying the state GOP needs to be looked at closer as well just for clarity sake.
William Eaton on December 24, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Thanks for proving my point.
ddrintn on December 24, 2011 at 12:32 PM
I would see nothing wrong with taking Virginia to court, there is a precedent of over-burdensome primary requirements being thrown out (NY Republican Primary in 2000).
amazingmets on December 24, 2011 at 12:32 PM
Rational Thought on December 24, 2011 at 12:27 PM
Best thing Romney could do is agree to have his lists canvassed…but he won’t release his tax returns so I doubt he’d do that.
Paul’s should be canvased since he got under 15,000 as per the new VA Rules.
See how that works?
workingclass artist on December 24, 2011 at 12:33 PM
In the most important election of our lifetime – I think this is stupid. Every major candidate should be on the ballot period.
We are trying to save our country from a socialist – big picture here people!
gophergirl on December 24, 2011 at 12:33 PM
Yep.
ddrintn on December 24, 2011 at 12:33 PM
According to Allahpundit Virginia makes up 10% of the delegates.
Virginia’s 49 delegates, handed out proportionally based on election results, make up more than 10 percent of the 475 delegates up for grabs on Super Tuesday.
Dr Evil on December 24, 2011 at 12:34 PM
“They should run their campaign the way they want to. I’m going to run my campaign the way I want to,”……..Newt.
I have no idea what Rick Perry’s excuse is.
JPeterman on December 24, 2011 at 12:34 PM
Just a reminder about what Super Tuesday looks like:
Note: the delegate totals here are the number to be awarded according to the primary/caucus vote totals and not the total number of delegates from the state.
Robert_Paulson on December 24, 2011 at 12:39 PM
Seven Percent Solution on December 24, 2011 at 12:40 PM
Too bad the Republican district and precincts couldn’t have lent a hand over the summer, huh?
You know ask all the candidates if they would like to have tables at a pancake breakfast or picnic or buffet luncheon in the districts, so that everyone pays a nominal fee for the meal and probably a speaker of some sort to talk about federalism or the constitution… and the candidates could pay a bit more for tables to get people to sign up for the qualification papers.
Geez, wouldn’t a real party that attracte enough people to actually have a functioning sub-State system be a grand thing? Why they could certainly help out by making sure that only party members sign up because they would be, after all, LOCAL.
Maybe there will, someday, be a party that actually concentrates on the local politics FIRST and gets active participation to help change government from the BOTTOM UP so that these higher level figures would have an easier time of it. Because, right now, that sort of party is missing and the gaping hole where it should be has this political label of ‘Independent’. Maybe, someday, these campaigns might just ask for HELP instead of trying to be a one-man-band of electioneering and reinventing the wheel every four years.
ajacksonian on December 24, 2011 at 12:41 PM
<blockquote>“They should run their campaign the way they want to. I’m going to run my campaign the way I want to,”……..Newt.I have no idea what Rick Perry’s excuse is.
JPeterman on December 24, 2011 at 12:34 PM
Almost like karma, isn’t it?
a capella on December 24, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Is this the best we can do? This field of numbskulls makes me wonder sometimes. Is there no time for Paul Ryan? Rubio? Palin?
ManWithNoName on December 24, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Excuse us..We are having trouble coming up with one..Guess we didn’t have enough “Boots on the Ground” in Virginia..:)
Dire Straits on December 24, 2011 at 12:41 PM
In the absence of proof of wrongdoing (and I am not aware of any), this can only be viewed as an awful failure on Gingrich’s and Perry’s campaigns. I say this as someone who wants Perry to be the nominee, and with Gingrich as my second choice. Unless some appeal is possible (and makes sense to pursue), it appears to be better to simply focus on other states now.
Throat Wobbler Mangrove on December 24, 2011 at 12:42 PM
I needed a laugh…granted it’s a sardonic chuckle but thanks…
Put em’ all on the VA ballot.
Gig Em’ & Merry Christmas!
Perry 2012
workingclass artist on December 24, 2011 at 12:42 PM
“Someone had a grade A loan-fish decorate their home for a Merry Fool’s function” was the explanation given.
kunegetikos on December 24, 2011 at 12:43 PM
Sure, Virginia’s delegates aren’t trivial in number. I’m not saying that. However, Virginia isn’t the biggest prize on Super Tuesday, and in the long-run, I don’t think Perry or Gingrich will be made or broken on Virginia’s 49 delegates. As you indicate 90% of Super Tuesday’s delegates are still up for grabs.
Robert_Paulson on December 24, 2011 at 12:44 PM
Throat Wobbler Mangrove on December 24, 2011 at 12:42 PM
Well we don’t know since VA has decided not t scrutinize either Romney or Paul’s lists do we?
Do We?
nuff said
workingclass artist on December 24, 2011 at 12:44 PM
Yes, that’s my question too. I’m having a little trouble swallowing the idea that EVERY candidate screwed this up EXCEPT Romney and Ron Paul.
I’ve been shifting between “the candidates were just idiots” and “a conspiracy is afoot” several times in the past sixteen hours — either Perry and Gingrich “jumped” by not doing what they were supposed to do or “were pushed” because people behind the scenes were moving some goalposts or changing the rules in the middle of the game. Now I’m back to thinking that if they “jumped,” they had help.
To sum up: This stinks. And it’s not exactly restoring my faith in the GOP, I can tell you that.
Aitch748 on December 24, 2011 at 12:44 PM
Brilliant. :)
Aitch748 on December 24, 2011 at 12:45 PM
Good post..Guess we will know in a few days if Perry and Gingrich have any appeal relief..:)
Dire Straits on December 24, 2011 at 12:46 PM
“I’m going to be the nominee”…………Newt.
JPeterman on December 24, 2011 at 12:46 PM
All of those complaining have only one question to ask themselves. If their least favored candidate did the same thing would they want him or her to be placed on the ballot?
Nope. You may now shut-up with the stupidest line of conspiracy crap ever.
Capitalist Hog on December 24, 2011 at 12:47 PM
“Oops”
cool breeze on December 24, 2011 at 12:48 PM
I think it would be wise move by Team Romney to get their signatures verified just so the Conspiracy Theorists will stop beating their drums..:)
Dire Straits on December 24, 2011 at 12:49 PM
This.
Rational Thought on December 24, 2011 at 12:49 PM
None, unless you consider guys like Duncan Hunter or Tommy Thompson “prominent candidates”.
It only shows how ridiculous weak the field is this year. Bunch of c-listers. How the heck do you managed to screw up this?
There are two serious but deeply flawed candidates – the frontrunner (Romney) and the insurgent (Paul) – and a bunch of joke candidates who have had air-time because the other 2 are very flawed and disliked. They’re still nothing but jokers though. Even Alan Keyes had made the ballot in the past – and with the exact same criteria!
joana on December 24, 2011 at 12:50 PM
Capitalist Hog on December 24, 2011 at 12:47 PM
After watching the debacle of 2008 on the other side…I think what motivates me is a fair application of the rules.
Paul was under 15,000 so he should be canvased but he was certified early.
I think to save face the VA GOP should canvas every list.
workingclass artist on December 24, 2011 at 12:50 PM
THIS ONLY PROVES A COUPLE OF THINGS.
MAYBE THREE, LOL
ONE – MORE PISSED THAN EVER THAT PALIN DID NOT RUN.
TWO – ROM WILL BE TO THE NOMANIE
THREE – AND WHAT I THINK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE – FOCUS ON THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE AND THE LOCAL AND STATE ELECTIONS. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE IT BACK FROM THE INSIDE. GET RID OF SPEAKER BAIN, GET MORE TEA IN THE HOUSE, GET MORE TEA IN THE STATE HOUSE, GET MORE TEA IN THE SENATE.
*************************** ITS OUR ONLY HOPE *********************
kara26 on December 24, 2011 at 12:51 PM
Dire Straits on December 24, 2011 at 12:49 PM
It would be a smart move. But I doubt he will do it.
workingclass artist on December 24, 2011 at 12:52 PM
Just because the potential circulators are more bitchy this time around, that doesn’t mean the requirements are more stringent/complicated. That bitchiness is the only reason cited by the linked advocate for the claim that things are more stringent/complicated this time.
Steve Eggleston on December 24, 2011 at 12:52 PM
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