California atheists block out nativity scenes

posted at 10:30 am on December 24, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

I don’t like dredging up that whole “war on Christmas” thing, but (with apologies in advance to Allahpundit) this story kind of gets under my skin. In Santa Monica, California, there is apparently one particular stretch of road alongside a park which has traditionally been set aside for Christmas displays. The nativity scenes on display have been popular with residents and tourists. But in order to be fair to everyone, the city used a lottery to allocate space to groups wishing to put up Creche displays and related scenes. Now, a group of atheists are accused of swamping the lottery and taking over the lots.

This year, however, atheists have taken over most of the two-block stretch, nearly shutting out and angering a group of churches who contend the atheists have organized against the Christians and gamed a city lottery process allocating the holiday exhibit space.

In response, a leader of the atheist group says he’s just looking for evenhanded treatment to present his beliefs in a public space — and goes so far as to say that the city shouldn’t even be allowing any religious or even atheist expression in the park.

That’s why he and his group have put nothing on half of the park exhibit spaces that they’ve secured from the city this year.

The atheists are declaring the politically left-leaning seaside town of Santa Monica as their latest battleground in a national movement to assert their rights.

“I’m part of a growing movement in America of atheists standing up for their rights. It’s a very exciting time for us that we’re having more of an impact in our society,” said Damon Vix, the organizer of the atheist group.

Yes, you’re having a big “impact” on the local society, alright. You’re getting everyone angry at you and ruining their holiday season to no apparent purpose. In the interview, Mr. Vix makes it clear that he has no interest in seeing other people’s views being represented – he just doesn’t want the Christians to use it.

In the interest of fairness, I could see if competing groups wanted to use some of the lots for an alternative display. If somebody wants to put up a big menorah on one of the lots, I don’t think anyone is going to get too worked up over it. And for these atheists, if they had something in mind as an alternative message… even a Festivus pole and a wrestling mat for some feats of strength, I’d probably have to give them some support. But to lock off the land to leave it empty rather than allow a nativity scene? That’s not some fight for equality or freedom. That’s just being a Grinch.

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insidiator on December 27, 2011 at 8:45 AM

I don’t believe Crenshaw Christian Center Los Angeles is going anywhere, anytime soon.

listens2glenn on December 27, 2011 at 10:53 AM

Hard Right on December 27, 2011 at 10:48 AM

It’s OK Hard right. I get it… When I point out the obvious, I get branded with a mental illness.

So you’re an agnostic on this topic, and you and others here are entitled to believe what you want of course. I’m not going to force anyone to believe otherwise, but if you’re going to make truth claims about a topic, be prepared to back it up with something more substantial than hearsay from ancient documents.

“One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision”

“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence”

There is something feeble and a little contemptible about a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of comfortable myths. Almost inevitably some part of him is aware that they are myths and that he believes them only because they are comforting. But he dare not face this thought! Moreover, since he is aware, however dimly, that his opinions are not rational, he becomes furious when they are disputed

- Bertrand Russell

SauerKraut537 on December 27, 2011 at 11:15 AM

“I’m part of a growing movement in America of atheists standing up for their rights. It’s a very exciting time for us that we’re having more of an impact in our society,” said Damon Vix, the organizer of the atheist group.

Isn’t it funny that the4 only way that an atheist can stand up for their rights in expressing their beleifs is to deny others the right to express their beliefs.

Telling isn’t it…….

Individualist on December 27, 2011 at 11:53 AM

Isn’t it funny that the4 only way that an atheist can stand up for their rights in expressing their beleifs is to deny others the right to express their beliefs.

Telling isn’t it…….

Individualist on December 27, 2011 at 11:53 AM

No, but it’s funny when someone like you thinks that… The story as I understand it is that there is a park that allows multiple permits for people to erect all manner of displays…

Which makes me kind of wonder. Why would the city allow so many displays, each with a “brought to you by the church of latter day saints”, “brought to you by the Danbury Baptist church”, brought to you by the San Diego Catholic church”, etc…

It’s like each church is not only using the park as a place to “remind” people of Jesus and the crucifixion (should really be spelled cruciFICTION), but also as a place to advertise their church as well.

SauerKraut537 on December 27, 2011 at 2:49 PM

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