Quotes of the day

posted at 10:36 pm on December 22, 2011 by Allahpundit

“After his speech, the Texas congressman took questions. The first was from a woman who immediately expressed her adoration. ‘I am actually a Democrat and I am in love with you,” Michelle Godez-Schilling told Paul to cheers from the crowd.

“The candidate put his hands on his face as if he was embarrassed before Godez-Schilling continued. ‘I would like to see you get as many votes as possible, and I feel like my friends who are Democrat, left-leaning, green party, they are not hearing you, so I guess I’m asking, How can I help get the word out?’ she asked.”

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“Ron Paul’s portfolio isn’t merely different. It’s shockingly different.

“Yes, about 21% of Rep. Paul’s holdings are in real estate and roughly 14% in cash. But he owns no bonds or bond funds and has only 0.1% in stock funds. Furthermore, the stock funds that Rep. Paul does own are all ‘short,’ or make bets against, U.S. stocks. One is a ‘double inverse’ fund that, on a daily basis, goes up twice as much as its stock benchmark goes down.

“The remainder of Rep. Paul’s portfolio – fully 64% of his assets – is entirely in gold and silver mining stocks. He owns no Apple, no ExxonMobil, no Procter & Gamble, no General Electric, no Johnson & Johnson, not even a diversified mutual fund that holds a broad basket of stocks. Rep. Paul doesn’t own stock in any major companies at all except big precious-metals stocks like Barrick Gold, Goldcorp and Newmont Mining…

“At our request, William Bernstein, an investment manager at Efficient Portfolio Advisors in Eastford, Conn., reviewed Rep. Paul’s portfolio as set out in the annual disclosure statement. Mr. Bernstein says he has never seen such an extreme bet on economic catastrophe. ‘This portfolio is a half-step away from a cellar-full of canned goods and nine-millimeter rounds,’ he says.”

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“Despite his mantra to stay ‘positive,’ Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich took a swipe at rival Ron Paul on Thursday, suggesting that the Texas congressman’s political base consists of ‘people who want to legalize drugs.’

“During a radio interview with conservative commentator John McCaslin, the former House speaker also said Paul is naive about the war on terrorism and Iran’s nuclear program. ‘This is a guy who basically says, if the United States were only nice, it wouldn’t have had 9/11. He doesn’t want to blame the bad guys. … He dismisses the danger of Iranian nuclear weapon and seems to be indifferent to the idea that Israel could be wiped out. And as I said, I think the key to his volunteer base is people who want to legalize drugs.’”

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“As Paul made a campaign stop in Manchester, Iowa, on Thursday, his Iowa chairman, Drew Ivers, repeated Paul’s assertions that he did not write the articles that resurfaced this week in a report in the Weekly Standard magazine…

“‘It is ridiculous to imply that Ron Paul is a bigot, racist, or unethical,’ Ivers said.

“However, Ivers said, Paul does not deny or retract material that Paul has written under his own signature, such as the letter promoting Paul’s newsletters.

“When asked whether that meant Paul believed there was a government conspiracy to cover up the impact of AIDS, Ivers said, ‘I don’t think he embraces that.’”

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“Paul is going to need to deal with the newsletter issue more directly than he has so far, especially if he doesn’t want it to loom larger and larger as the stakes get higher. He is actually in control of the issues that most vex contemporary America, which have nothing to do with affirmative action, ‘racial terrorism,’ or the transmission of AIDS via saliva. He is running against Republicans who were for individual mandates in health care long before they were against them or who seriously invoke sharia law as a threat to the American way of life, and he faces a possible general election against a president with low approval ratings precisely because he passed his awful health care, bailout, and stimulus plans, among other things. As Friedersdorf argues, Paul actually has a far better record on matters that directly affect the minorities slagged so disturbingly in his newsletters.

“As I’ve argued elsewhere and often, Paul is providing the alternative that Americans are craving in politics.That alternative, by definition, is going to discomfit conventional politicians and politicos who are more concerned with whether their party is in power than what is done with that power; with whether deficits and entitlements and ‘defense’ spending will bankrupt the country; with whether Americans should be treated like adults when it comes to deciding what to eat, smoke, and drink. Paul is not the perfect vessel for a libertarian message, but waiting for perfection is something ideologues insist on. Most of us are far more interested in someone who at least has shown he understands the most pressing issues of the moment – and the future.”

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“And so it’s not hard to see why Paul’s more ardent supporters stand by him: They too find it seductive to believe that the United States is on the verge of utter collapse. The benefit of indulging in such visions is that it sets the stage for the arrival of a savior: This is the role that Paul himself plays, of course. Fiercely independent, uncorrupted by the ‘establishment,’ speaker of unpopular truths, only Paul is capable of saving the country. What are a handful of uncouth newsletters really worth when the stakes are so high?

“What’s important to realize is that this sort of political myopia is endemic to libertarianism. The movement’s obsession with consistency is actually a mark of paranoia. If you’re already persuaded by Paul’s suggestions that fiat money is what ails our economy, that our country’s foreign policy is rotten to its very core, it’s tempting to take the next step and interpret his failure to be nominated as the result of political persecution. Sullivan, thus, complains of a deliberate media blackout against the Texas Congressman, blaming “liberals who cannot take domestic libertarianism seriously and from neocons desperate to keep the Military Industrial Complex humming at Cold War velocity.” There is a bitter irony of course in the fact that a movement so devoted to individual responsibility is so apt to be on the search for others to blame. Paul of course is the prime example: Here is an absolutist libertarian who advocates the ideals of individual rights and responsibility, yet cannot own up to the words that were published under his name, instead blaming it on a variety of as yet unnamed aides…

“If Paul is responsible for conjuring the apocalyptic atmosphere of a prophet, it’s his supporters who have to answer for submitting to it. Surely, those who agree with Paul would be able to find a better vessel for their ideas than a man who once entertained the notion that AIDS was invented in a government laboratory or who, just last January, alleged that there had been a ‘CIA coup’ against the American government and that the Agency is ‘in drug businesses.’ Why, for instance, do these self-styled libertarians not throw their support to former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson, who, unlike Paul, can boast executive experience and doesn’t have the racist and conspiratorial baggage? At this late stage, that Ron Paul’s supporters haven’t found an alternative candidate says more about them, and the intellectual milieu they inhabit, than it does about the erstwhile publisher of racist newsletters.”

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“A poll released Tuesday found that in head-to-head election match-ups between President Barack Obama and various Republican presidential candidates, Texas Rep. Ron Paul fared best among non-white voters.

“In a hypothetical contest against the president, the CNN/Opinion Research poll found Paul with 25 percent of the non-white vote…

“Paul campaign press secretary Gary Howard, who is himself an African American, told The Daily Caller that his candidate’s opposition to the War on Drugs has helped him win support from minorities.

“‘The figures in this poll show that voters are looking at Congressman Paul’s decades-long history of fighting for the individual liberties of all Americans,’ said Howard.”

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“And if Ron Paul had been president at the precipice of the Cold War? It his hard to imagine him standing up to the Soviet Union and their quest for supremacy. Can you imagine a President Paul articulating the Truman Doctrine? He has derided it in the past.

“Paul is categorically against foreign aid; so the Marshall Plan, which built Europe up after the war and helped it ward off communism, would have been off the table. He is against covert operations, so there would have been no clandestine efforts to buttress liberal forces against the Communists’ attempts to infiltrate Western Europe after World War II…

“It isn’t hard to envision Paul, cloistered in the White House at some point during the Cold War, shrugging at the news that the final capital of Western Europe had just fallen to the Soviet Empire.

“‘Oh well,’ he would pithily remark. ‘Not our concern.’”

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Late here, out for the evening.

AZfederalist on December 23, 2011 at 1:22 AM

Late here, out for the evening.

AZfederalist on December 23, 2011 at 1:22 AM

Ditto. Nighty night.

minnesoter on December 23, 2011 at 1:25 AM

“Paul is categorically against foreign aid; so the Marshall Plan, which built Europe up after the war and helped it ward off communism, would have been off the table.

Actually it made European Socialism viable. As for the Communists, they were all over the place and active even while the Third Reich and Fascist Italy were still solvent. The Liberal-induced historical meme is that the Nazis and Fascists crushed the Communists in areas under their control. Not so.

Who do you think kept the Vichy millice busy for four and a half years and fomented the events leading to the Ouradour-sur-Glane massacre?

Mussolini’s Black Shirts deserted en masse while thousands of Italian Communists came out of the woodwork…who do you think captured and executed Mussolini and his entourage?

Who resisted the Axis occupation in the Balkans? Ever hear of the Greek Civil War?

There was no dearth of red flag-waving protestors when cruise missiles were based in UK bases under Reagan.

Also, it wasn’t the Marshall Plan that “warded off Communism”, but rather U.S. military force and nuclear detente/MAD. And, remember that the Marshall Plan was offered to Eastern European countries within the Soviet sphere. The industrially backwards areas of Europe and the even more agrarian and populous East Asia was to be controlled by centralized (Communist) authority where production could best be wrung from basically serf populations, and the more unruly populations could best be controlled via dictatorships.

In Western Europe (including Greece, where the Communists were never supposed to be in control) more benign Socialist parliamentary governments could be set up (re-established actually) with a modicum of laissez-faire economics allowed as this attitude would work best there as opposed to the Slavic and Far East regions. Japan was certainly considered as being ‘Western European’ in this regard.

It was all a set up with the details hammered out at places like Yalta, Casablanca, Tehran, and so forth (at least on the surface for show). George Orwell called it right and very early on. The entire set up fits quite well into the Hegelian dialectic based on thesis, antithesis and resulting synthesis (still being worked on).

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 23, 2011 at 1:25 AM

AZfederalist on December 23, 2011 at 1:19 AM

If Ron Paul is on record criticizing the Marshall Plan it is most likely due to his opposition to welfare. For all we know he would have taken other measures to lessen the burden on Germany and WWII might never have happened.

FloatingRock on December 23, 2011 at 1:25 AM

A little sunlight might finally put this to an end.

WitchDoctor on December 23, 2011 at 1:27 AM

Yawn! Mebbe so. It’s very difficult to argue with a floating rock. I fold.

minnesoter on December 23, 2011 at 1:28 AM

“Paul actually has a far better record on matters that directly affect the minorities slagged so disturbingly in his newsletters.”

Bingo. Far more productive then this obsession over newsletters would be a “national debate” over drug and marijuana policy.

NewLiberty on December 22, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Indeed. If only there were a serious, non-Quixote candidate to start the debate.

deadrody on December 23, 2011 at 1:28 AM

AZfederalist on December 23, 2011 at 1:07 AM

I have no stance on climate change, personally. If it’s true, the government isn’t the solution anyway.

I’ve done my part. I’ve provided proof of my claims. There’s plenty more where that came from, as well.

But, ad hominems are cool, too.

gyrmnix on December 23, 2011 at 1:28 AM

The ironic thing is that the mainstream media – and the conservative establishment – is attempting to say these newsletters are something new, relevant and thus, newsworthy. But this story has been there, in full bloom, since the mid 90s and recently, the 2008 campaign. It’s already yesterday’s news. It’s a “known” liability, not an unknown one.

NewLiberty on December 22, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Wrong. So completely wrong. I don’t care if Wolf Blitzer interviewed Ron Paul about the topic in 2008 or not. Bully for the few hundred thousand people that watch that wretched channel. For the OTHER 99.9% of the public this is indeed a new story. One that Ron Paul is going to have to answer.

Just because Paul-bots were watching that night means absolutely nothing.

deadrody on December 23, 2011 at 1:34 AM

No what is racist is how disproportionately blacks are penalized for drug related crimes. They represent 14% of overall drug use, and 65% of the people incarcerated for drug crimes.

ReformedDeceptiCon on December 22, 2011 at 10:53 PM

You guys just don’t get it, do you. People are not being put in jail for drug USE. They are predominantly put in jail for drug SALES. An industry dominated by minorities.

The War on Drugs is a vast and utter failure. But the fact is, minorities represent a majority of the drug sales. Pretending otherwise does not advance the debate.

deadrody on December 23, 2011 at 1:37 AM

minnesoter on December 23, 2011 at 1:18 AM

Since we’re going nowhere here, I’m willing to agree to disagree. The racism bit is the least of my reasons for opposing the war on drugs.

And just so you know, support for legalizing marijuana is at 50%, as of October. It’s not that far out of the mainstream anymore.

gyrmnix on December 23, 2011 at 1:39 AM

deadrody on December 23, 2011 at 1:37 AM

Okay, I’m going to need a source on that one.

gyrmnix on December 23, 2011 at 1:40 AM

As long as they were not scanned in using the machine that Obama’s Birthy thing was scanned with…
These are the genuine documents.

Electrongod on December 22, 2011 at 11:25 PM

You’re not actually a birther, are you?

Corporal Tunnel on December 23, 2011 at 1:44 AM

I don’t do any drugs myself (I don’t even drink these days) but, it is wrong for my neighbor to be locked up for something he chooses to do to himself in the privacy of his own home.

gyrmnix on December 22, 2011 at 11:41 PM

Agreed.

And maybe in a decade or so when all the rest of the important matters are cleared up, maybe we’ll give that one some thought. But when THAT is your primary issue ? Sorry, your guy is not the one.

There are vastly more pressing issues to address. This one doesn’t even make the list, frankly.

deadrody on December 23, 2011 at 1:48 AM

deadrody on December 23, 2011 at 1:48 AM

Not the war on drugs itself but, civil liberties as a whole. The war on drugs happens to fit under civil liberty.

There’s a whole laundry list of issues that fall under that. Such as the NDAA, SOPA/PIPA, war on drugs, etc. The economy is an extremely close second. It falls just below civil liberties because a strong economy doesn’t matter without freedom.

gyrmnix on December 23, 2011 at 1:57 AM

If Ron Paul is on record criticizing the Marshall Plan it is most likely due to his opposition to welfare. For all we know he would have taken other measures to lessen the burden on Germany and WWII might never have happened.

Ronulans have a tendency to think ‘Constitutional Libertarians’ exist or should exist everywhere, even in places where the U.S. Constitution has no force of law. Europe was responsible for the burdens of Germany, not the United States. World War II was not caused by the United States, and besides, if Ron Paul had ‘taken other measures’ to lessen these burdens on Germany, wouldn’t Ron Paul be violating his own ‘non-interventionist’ creed?

Aside from that, as President, you lead with the situation you’re given. Pointing to past mistakes (World War I aftermath) in history doesn’t change or solve the current situation. Hindsight is always 20/20, it means nothing.

Corporal Tunnel on December 23, 2011 at 2:01 AM

Not the war on drugs itself but, civil liberties as a whole. The war on drugs happens to fit under civil liberty.

gyrmnix on December 23, 2011 at 1:57 AM

Except that that attack on civil liberties has been ongoing for 50 years or more and yet the nation has survived. If we don’t get the economic house in order, it won’t matter at all. One is a serious issue. One is a luxury to consider.

deadrody on December 23, 2011 at 2:06 AM

if Ron Paul had ‘taken other measures’ to lessen these burdens on Germany, wouldn’t Ron Paul be violating his own ‘non-interventionist’ creed?

Corporal Tunnel on December 23, 2011 at 2:01 AM

I suppose it depends on what he did, there’s no way to know. Still, there is no reason to believe that a giant welfare program was the only way to prevent WWII, and the Marshall Plan and all of it’s welfare created moral hazard and decay that partially explains why Europe is such a basket-case today.

FloatingRock on December 23, 2011 at 2:23 AM

deadrody on December 23, 2011 at 2:06 AM

I agree that the economy is important. I strongly disagree that freedom is a luxury, this is what our troops go off to fight for, after all.

Actually, it could be (and should be) argued that freedom and the economy go hand-in-hand. There is no separation between economic liberty and personal liberty. When the government gives millions to Solyndra, that company becomes beholden to the government. When the government takes money from you to prop up failed banks, you can’t truly argue that you’re free. Both of these things are wrong and should be vehemently opposed by conservatives.

gyrmnix on December 23, 2011 at 2:28 AM

There are vastly more pressing issues to address. This one doesn’t even make the list, frankly.

deadrody on December 23, 2011 at 1:48 AM

Seriously?

Ron Paul’s economic plan does not even touch the drug war. His plan aims to cut $1 trillion in year one, with the goal of balancing the budget in 3 years. At the very least he’d cut spending and stop any more additions to spending.

Does that make your list?

fatlibertarianinokc on December 23, 2011 at 2:36 AM

drug legalization sounds good for a variety of reasons. But the minority angle is probably not a good one.

I’ve thought that the CBC has not been championing the pro-drug thing…and i think i’m right. Here is a very technical paper done looking at black adolescent male problems.

http://cbcfinc.org/oUploadedFiles/BreakingBarriers2.pdf

You won’t find them recommending legalization of illicit drugs. They are a problem…not a solution. Like I say, this is a very technical paper. Lots of advanced stats. But it shows how the CBC is struggling with the problem…it is pretty grim.

They come to some wrong conclusions (IMO)…lefty solutions sounding a little like Ayers Small School stuff and culture competency. That all depends on what those words mean…I know what Ayers thinks they mean…and he would be wrong.

All in All..very sad…and no, the white middle and upper class libertarian dream of legalization won’t help. Sorry

r keller on December 23, 2011 at 2:55 AM

“The past administration and the entire upper end structure of the military machine, has failed miserably. Not only have they chosen the wrong strategy to achieve a definable victory for their nation, they chose one that has been disproportionately brutal for our forces while providing cover for the enemy and the population that has proven, over and over again to be untrustworthy. History has defined and will continue to define only a miniscule number of opportunities for a theater-wide application of the precepts of Counter Insurgency doctrine to have been efficacious. Even a casual glance at the human terrain in either Iraq or Afghanistan with Syria and Iran to possibly follow, should have given the critical thinker everything they needed to adequately keep COIN under lock and key in the vault of terrible ideas.

But rather than heed history, a bevy of analysts or common sense, and like undisciplined children discovering a new toy, the Generals and their civilian counterparts pounced on COIN and hitched their violated consciences, their personal legacies and the lives of hundreds of thousands of trusting, American Warriors to it. The fruit of their arrogance is measured in the thousands of American Servicemen who have been sacrificed at the altar of pride and the tens of thousands more who have suffered life altering wounds. Some legacy!

Americans are now facing the prospect of a future replete with civilian and military leadership that is hostile to the idea of sole security for our uniquely American documents, ideals, citizenry and security. Is this what Americans want for their Sons and Daughters because this current vision of the world places the United States citizens en par with those who would declare us an enemy and then institutes policies that intentionally endanger American lives with the stated purpose of preserving the lives of those who, endanger American lives!”
- John Bernard

RasThavas on December 23, 2011 at 2:56 AM

People are not being put in jail for drug USE.

You are wrong. Either you know it and you’re lying. Or you are magnificently ignorant.

Notably, you offer no facts to support your outlandish remarks. You must work for MSNBC.

Capitalist Hog on December 23, 2011 at 3:06 AM

r keller on December 23, 2011 at 2:55 AM

It’s 2AM here. I won’t have time to read that tonight but, I’ll look over it in the morning.

As far as legalization goes, just look at what happened with prohibition. When there’s a demand for a product and the government bans it, it immediately creates a black market. It puts large amounts of money in the hands of people who shouldn’t have it. Keeping it illegal also harms the consumer more than it would when it’s legal. There is no pressure on the dealer to provide a quality product, leading to cutting it with potentially more dangerous substances. In that situation (or in any situation where the dealer rips off the consumer), there’s no recourse for the consumer other than violence. It also makes it far harder to seek help for addiction.

America had these same problems during prohibition and look at the alcohol market now. The alcohol sits on the store shelves. The store verifies the owner is of legal age. If Budweiser sells a bad product, the consumer has options. Additionally, the money spent on alcohol isn’t given directly to criminals.

Legalizing drugs solves more problems than it creates. It saves wasted money, removes ridiculous government bureaucracy, etc. And, something of high importance, I’d be able to buy my cold medicine without being harassed for having the audacity to buy a package of medicine with pseudoephedrine in it.

Oh, and people who liked bath salts? Too bad, the DEA has unilaterally spoken.

gyrmnix on December 23, 2011 at 3:15 AM

“After his speech, the Texas congressman took questions. The first was from a woman who immediately expressed her adoration. ‘I am actually a Democrat and I am in love with you,” Michelle Godez-Schilling told Paul to cheers from the crowd.

“The candidate put his hands on his face as if he was embarrassed before Godez-Schilling continued. ‘I would like to see you get as many votes as possible, and I feel like my friends who are Democrat, left-leaning, green party, they are not hearing you, so I guess I’m asking, How can I help get the word out?’ she asked.”

I think that is all we really need to hear.

eva3071 on December 23, 2011 at 5:10 AM

This guy is not getting elected. He has run for president since what? 1702, while I can appreciate his service at some point someone needs to put him back on his meds. His ideas are so 1973 its scary. For every good thing he says 3 clearly ridiculous statements follow. If that weren’t enough just read the half baked drivel his acolytes promote. I have never seen a group more willing to defend the defenceless as these paulians. They are truly lost.

Perry 2012

iidvbii on December 23, 2011 at 5:43 AM

I’m….. thinking if he’s this testy mean when the questions are this mild, he’s going to erupt like St. Helen’s when really pressed hard. I mean complete meltdown,.. the surest thing about the crazy uncle is they cannot handle the uppity kid who says why to everything, and he absolutely won’t be able to handle it when a reporter points out, he hasn’t really answered the question.

I hope he hurries up, his extreme leftwing foreign policy deserves to die with his campaign.

Then the extreme libertarian right can go back to swappin stories about black helicopters and captured aliens. And… b*tching that we live in a dictatership because their vice of choice is illegal. I know one woman who hasn’t worked for years, moves from friends and families couch to couch, moving with her kids in tow two or three times a year, because she can’t stop her weed habit. Refuses to try and give them a proper home, blames everybody else, and the poor working class is infested with her type, male and female. I see it all the time.

but weed is a harmless diversion, so sayeth the folks who wanna live like that… what a sad sad joke… and it’s the kids who pay the price, parents too stoned to work, but they can pull it together long enough to whine about their “rights”..

I’d like the right to pimp slap stupid people,.. but I can’t have that one either.

mark81150 on December 23, 2011 at 6:33 AM

Hotair.com carries the water for Mitt again with this attempt to damage Ron Paul. You’re pathetic. Really. You quote the piece about RP’s portfolio that says he’s waiting for the world to end, but fail to quote this part, “But you can say this for Ron Paul: In investing, as in politics, he has the courage of his convictions.”
Selective, picking out the parts that suit you. That’s the mark of an ideological moron. I’ve wanted Ron Paul to win based on his economic ideas, but now I want him to win to stick it in your a**. I don’t have faith that it will happen, not with dishonest, hack journalist wannabe’s like Allahpundit riding him into the ground and promoting the same ole same ole, but I want it. And you people say the mainstream media is a problem. JEEZ!!!

libertarianlunatic on December 23, 2011 at 6:47 AM

In the age of the Internets, lunatics like Ron Paul get exposed. For all those who got all offended when I said Ron was a racists, behold more proof. I have heard some strange explanations coming from the Libertarians on this. How could the guy allow his name to be attached to this and not know what’s in it?

NickDeringer on December 23, 2011 at 7:00 AM

…not with dishonest, hack journalist wannabe’s like Allahpundit riding him into the ground and promoting the same ole same ole, but I want it. And you people say the mainstream media is a problem. JEEZ!!!

libertarianlunatic on December 23, 2011 at 6:47 AM

Since when did “pundit” become synonymous with “journalist” half-wit? This isn’t a news website and has never promoted itself as such. Nor has any any writer ever presented himself as remotely impartial on any subject.

And are you really stupid enough -abysmally, helmet -wearingly, gee-this-kool-aid-tastes-funny stupid- to believe the general electorate is going to look at the contents of that holdings portfolio, and it’s rationale, and go “Hm, a man who recognizes our country as a failed enterprise… I like that!”

M240H on December 23, 2011 at 7:28 AM

If we hyave to go with a risky choice, let’s go brokered convention, and run the only conservative worthy of Reagan’s legacy.

Sarah Palin,….

She makes the right heads explode, is vastly smarter than her detracters will admit, and while I now it won’t happen……. I’d love to have someone to vote for, instead of against.

God knows if Paul got the nod through some kind of liberal thought control machine.. (can’t win the nom without that),… I’d write her name in. Obama is a staunch socialist, a cold war enemy I can understand,.. Paul?

He’s a different kind of enemy, one who doesn’t just wanna ruin this country, but is completely ok with Iran having a nuke. snd ohhhh if they just happen to nuke Tel Aviv,.. not HIS problem is it?

For no other reason than that, he is unfit.

mark81150 on December 23, 2011 at 7:30 AM

Apperantly, Paul’s defense is, he sucks as a manager,.. because he didn’t watch over something he put HIS NAME ON,.. for twenty years, he never looked..

so we’re supposed to elect a guy to run the federal government, who couldn’t even run a Congressional Office without a massive F’ up?

Is that your answer Paul?

You’re a stupedously bad manager?

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and they are fine with this?

mark81150 on December 23, 2011 at 7:35 AM

atlibertarianinokc on December 23, 2011 at 2:36 AM

That is why I’m voting for Dr. Paul. Nobody else even talks about accomplishing this.

8 weight on December 23, 2011 at 7:46 AM

IF this guy Paul offered anything more than damaging the Republican brand the media would have written enough to make him pass Herman Cain like he’s standing still getting out of the race. Ron Paul is a big, fat joke. He is Lyndon Larouche’s crazier half brother.

pc on December 23, 2011 at 7:59 AM

He’s the little twirp that stands at the craps table and bets don’t pass. You know Ronnie Paul is mostly invested in a double inverse market bear fund. I want that guy leading me to the promised land. More like the barge in Waterworld.

pc on December 23, 2011 at 8:02 AM

He’s the little twirp that stands at the craps table and bets don’t pass. You know Ronnie Paul is mostly invested in a double inverse market bear fund. I want that guy leading me to the promised land. More like the barge in Waterworld.

pc on December 23, 2011 at 8:02 AM

His investments have probably done very well for him this past decade. Real Estate is a typical investment. His investment in shorts and gold mining stocks was probably a better investment than most, except for the inside traders like Pelosi who can make quick and substantial profits. It shows he believes what he says. Why would you bet on the economy with either a Bush, Obama, or Newt Romney in office and Bernanke as Fed Chair? Would you want to invest in a much larger version of Greece that is two years behind?

LevStrauss on December 23, 2011 at 8:40 AM

His cellar-full sounds like my cellar-full.

Kissmygrits on December 23, 2011 at 8:51 AM

synopsis

maverick muse on December 23, 2011 at 9:14 AM

Walking the Talk

Is there a downside to re-legalizing the Constitution?

maverick muse on December 23, 2011 at 9:38 AM

As long as they were not scanned in using the machine that Obama’s Birthy thing was scanned with…
These are the genuine documents.

Electrongod on December 22, 2011 at 11:25 PM

You’re not actually a birther, are you?

Corporal Tunnel on December 23, 2011 at 1:44 AM

Don’t even start that put-down meme. 0bama has still not released a verifiable birth certificate. The electronic hodge-podge he released has so many problems that it apparently was purposely constructed by someone to cause even more turmoil, hiding whatever it is he’s still hiding.

For crying out loud, the lines on the certificate are curved, while the typed words are straight. He has still never released a copy of the long form that looks normal.

The birth-certificate thing has been a deliberate decoy all along, to hide the real problems – such as the issue that he probably called himself a foreign student on his apps to milk the system, just for starters. His records aren’t all sealed for no reason.

Just remember this chain of events:

1. Trump puts his feet to the fire.
2. He releases an electronic mystery-meat certificate that obviously been screwed around with.
3. He kills bin Laden before it can be examined.
4. Memory hole.

But just calling people “birthers” is totally non-productive, and aids 0bama in whatever scam he has been running on the American people this whole time. When it all finally comes out, some people need to go to jail, who have been manipulating public documents to cover for him.

cane_loader on December 23, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Last word on this, because I’m not attempting to hijack the thread, but hearing people called “birthers” offends me as much as hearing Tea Partiers called “teabaggers.”

Had 0bama’s people really wanted to put this thing to rest, they would have released a straight copy of the birth certificate, with no electronic manipulation. It’s as easy as putting the document on a scanner, doing a straight scan, and releasing it. Instead, the document has so many problems that it raises more questions than it answers. This was not an accident. Were 0bama really desirous of answering the hoonest questions of many Americans, as soon as the electronic mess he released was questioned, he would have asked Hawaii to release a straight scan, without twenty-odd electronic layers, just to put this to rest.

No, he’s been playing a high-level game with the American people, a bold game, one rife with deception of some kind, a game that continues. I can’t think of anything more offensive than that. He has purposely sown strife, to cover up whatever he’s hiding, and that’s reprehensible.

cane_loader on December 23, 2011 at 10:09 AM

Back on topic, I am glad that Paul is finally getting some scrutiny. Once people get a good look, he’s got some real issues, doesn’t he?

cane_loader on December 23, 2011 at 10:12 AM

“And are you really stupid enough -abysmally, helmet -wearingly, gee-this-kool-aid-tastes-funny stupid- to believe the general electorate is going to look at the contents of that holdings portfolio, and it’s rationale, and go “Hm, a man who recognizes our country as a failed enterprise… I like that!”

M240H on December 23, 2011 at 7:28 AM”

You support establishment figures who will lead us further down the path to big government and I’M the stupid one? Go look in the mirror for the definition of dumb-a$$.

libertarianlunatic on December 23, 2011 at 10:25 AM

IF this guy Paul offered anything more than damaging the Republican brand

The “Republican brand” is statism, plain and simply. They want THEIR version of big government, and so do you. What about that branding doesn’t deserve damaging?

libertarianlunatic on December 23, 2011 at 10:27 AM

“Ron Paul’s portfolio isn’t merely different. It’s shockingly different.”

And he wants yours to be shockingly different too.

Akzed on December 23, 2011 at 10:30 AM

I give Paul this – he really has put his money where his mouth is. If he really believes our monetary system is going to collapse, and that return to a gold standard is going to be necessary to clean up the mess, he has positioned himself nicely.

He’s got his convictions, and on that, I don’t fault the man.
Combine Gingrich’s insurgent mentality, Paul’s conviction, and Romney’s image of steady competence, and we’ve got a heck of a candidate.

cane_loader on December 23, 2011 at 10:32 AM

It speaks volumes that the people around Paul have not convinced him to paper over his fringe foreign policy, so as to get elected. If Paul would toe the line, he would be doing a lot better. So it looks like his inner circle is so myopic that they can’t get the candidate to compromise on the main issue that sinks him with the mainstream electorate.

Or, maybe he’s counting on the “Bush lied, kids died” vote to put him over the top. Why can’t he see that he’s losing more than he’s gaining, with that approach?

No one close to him has the guts to stand up to him. He probably starts ranting and waving his arms, and they back off.

cane_loader on December 23, 2011 at 10:40 AM

Is the Iowa Platform extremist?…. uh yeah,.. I’m a Reagan republican, and while mostly it’s boiler plate stuff,..

8.17 – Due to imminent failure of these programs, to abolish Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security over time;

are you out of your mind?

To repair sure, make solvent, but to take what Americans have come to depend on, and abolish them? No replacement, nothing but the stone cold fact, every elderly or disabled person who through the lack of an employee plan, or the charity of family who ends up living in a dumpster will be the poster child they wrap around our necks for a century.

I’m disabled, and my employer had no.. zero plans to deal with that. A billion dollar corporation, and they gave zip.. and folks are what.. supposed to ONLY chose jobs which offer protection? and pray tell, what do the rest of us do? hope to die early?

That is the exact kind of strawman the left has painted the right as for decades, and Paul embraces that?

and the same delusional author thinks that makes him electable? in this country?

Nice knowing Paul considers having had your back broken twice, second time in two places on the job, and my family whom I can no longer work for a blight on society…

It may not be popular among some conservatives, but even before becoming disabled, I strongly believed we should help those who cannot work, through no fault of their own. It’s not a position you could get any signifigant number to support, we think of it as insurance through the government, 30 years paying in, hoping to make it to retirement uninjured…

It’s this kind of mindless adherence to dogma that drives moderates to the democrats. It has become a pact with the American working class, that you get maimed on the job, we’ll make sure your children don’t suffer for it. The one thing FDR did, that has become imprinted on lower income workers like my wife and I. Like a veteran, it’s a way of saying, thanks for building America…

and now Paul and his merry giggling monkeys, wanna tell me too bad?….

My family is all dead, there is no other option for me. Maybe I can get a tin cup,.. you know.. and Paul can pretend to “accidently” kick it out of my hand… while I limp back to pick up the change, I’ll have to lie on the floor since I can’t bend, but that just encreases the hilarity factor for Paul and his money making racist letter….

Because if I weren’t a parasite, I’d have been a wealthy doctor like Paul, instead of standing the line walking fence in -75 degree weather,.. I mean what’s defending your country compared to squirreling away a few millions for a rainy day? I should have invested huh,.. I mean you can do so much with children and a 22,000 a year salary…

Paul’s the same lousey I got mine, me first and only me shill for the moneyed elite he says he’s against. Screw him, and the absolutists who want to break the pact made in 1936, and set in stone so the working class… HAS no other options.. but yeah, let’s abolish it so Paul can hide some more nutz in his bunker..

I’m done with Paul and the hardcore libertarian, nothing for anyone but me fringe… You even try to kill Social Security, you ensure democrat rule for decades.

mark81150 on December 23, 2011 at 10:50 AM

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Resist We Much on December 23, 2011 at 11:38 AM

IF this guy Paul offered anything more than damaging the Republican brand the media would have written enough to make him pass Herman Cain like he’s standing still getting out of the race. Ron Paul is a big, fat joke. He is Lyndon Larouche’s crazier half brother.

pc on December 23, 2011 at 7:59 AM

+1000
Also, +7 percent
Also, Good Solid B+

And for the record, if Ron Paul were to get the nomination (an impossibility), I would be the first to go find a truly Conservative Third-Party Candidate for whom to vote in the General. I will never, ever, ever vote for the absolute whack-job Ron Paul for any office, ever. And that line in the actual article saying Ron Paul’s supporters are a bunch of “legalize drugs” loons (my word) has been borne out by the rabid commentary here by the “legalize drugs” loons.

John Hitchcock on December 23, 2011 at 12:28 PM

John Hitchcock on December 23, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Freedom means you’re free to do what you want as long as you don’t harm others, even if I don’t agree with it. It does NOT mean you are free to be just like me.

Shoving your morals on others is the antithesis of freedom and conservatism.

gyrmnix on December 23, 2011 at 12:53 PM

Governor Perry has been the 800 pound political gorilla since he even thought about getting in – because of PROVEN CONSERVATIVE GOVERNANCE, the Texas record on jobs, and his electoral success (i.e. never lost one).
I pray that Governor Perry will fight his way back into this with a good showing in Iowa – that the field will thin out – and that with four or so podiums instead of 8 he will look much more credible as a POTUS.
A good man. A great American. Goodspeed, Governor Perry.

nancysabet on December 23, 2011 at 4:19 PM

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