Fiasco: Bachmann, Huntsman, Santorum fail to make Virginia ballot

posted at 8:00 pm on December 22, 2011 by Allahpundit

That’s not even the worst part. The worst part is that Perry and Gingrich, either one of whom could still become the Great Grassroots Hope against Romney, might not have qualified either. You need 10,000 signatures to make the ballot but 15,000 are recommended since a bunch are bound to be thrown out as false or duplicative as the petitions are scrutinized. You also need at least 600 signatures from each of Virginia’s 11 congressional districts. Romney submitted 16,026 and Ron Paul submitted 14,361. Perry’s total: 11,911. Gingrich’s: 11,050. If they end up getting bounced, the Republican primary ballot for one of America’s key swing states will consist exclusively of … Mitt Romney and Ron Paul.

You know who that benefits?

Romney was the first Republican presidential candidate to file his petitions. His Virginia campaign chairman, Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling, delivered them on Tuesday. President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign filed earlier this month.

The State Board of Elections will turn over the petitions to the respective political parties for validating. Republican will begin the process Friday morning and have sought volunteers to help with the process…

The parties have until Tuesday at 5 p.m. to tell the State Board of Elections which candidates qualify for the March 6 primary ballot. The order of names will be decided by lottery on Wednesday.

Larry Sabato expects the state GOP will turn a “blind eye” to any signature problems on Perry’s or Gingrich’s petitions. I’ll bet. Question for political junkies, then: How could Bachmann, Huntsman, and Santorum have failed this epically? Is it a simple matter of lacking the resources to put people in the field collecting signatures or is it a sign of deep organizational dysfunction that should rightly disqualify them from the race? Every day, it seems, the bar for the nomination gets pushed a bit lower by the incompetence of someone running, and every day that makes me ever so slightly and grudgingly more open to the idea of nominating Romney. He gets his ballot homework in early; he doesn’t say catastrophically stupid things at the debates; he doesn’t have any racist newsletters to his record. He is, in other words, a minimally capable candidate, which apparently means he’s more capable than anyone else in the field. The one consolation if he wins is that we don’t have to worry about him, say, spacing on the date to file general-election petitions in Florida. Thank heaven for small favors.

Two clips for you, one from Romney’s PAC tearing into Perry and Gingrich and the other, from 1994, of Romney denouncing … attack ads. Have you noticed, by the way, that you never see an ad from Team Mitt laying out Ron Paul for any of the million shady things he’s said in the past even though he’s the frontrunner in Iowa right now? There’s a reason for that, of course, and Perry and Gingrich really, really, really need to start pointing it out soon. It won’t change any minds among the hardcore Paul fans, but not all of Paul’s supporters in Iowa are hardcore. Some are with him because they’re looking for a Not Romney, they like what he has to say on spending and abortion, and they haven’t heard much yet about those newsletters or the fact that, oh, for example, he wouldn’t have given the order to get Bin Laden. Those people need to understand the implications of their vote and Perry/Gingrich can drive it home to them in nine words: A vote for Paul is a vote for Romney. If they’re aware of that and want to vote Paul anyway, that’s fine, but let’s make sure they realize that they actually can choose the nominee this cycle — namely, Romney — with their vote on January 3rd. And they don’t have to vote for Romney to do it.


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Will Americans elect a Moron for President?

richardporter on December 23, 2011 at 7:40 AM

Of course not.

Flotsam Jetsome on December 23, 2011 at 7:52 AM

Seems to me that Bachmann, Huntsman and Santorum have failed wrt to the electability question. If they don’t have the resources to get 10,000 signatures in Virginia, how can they possibly beat Obama in the general election?

Have to agree with Larry Saboto. The Virginia primary will be a laughingstock if they only have Romney and Paul on the ballot.

Cheetah1956 on December 23, 2011 at 8:17 AM

I can see where you may have conveniently blocked this out since it doesn’t serve Mittens’ interests at all, but it was Obama who declared Romneycare the model for his national boondoggle.

Nice try tho.

NoLeftTurn on December 23, 2011 at 7:24 AM

And why is Obama claiming everyday that Romneycare is the Father of Obamacare???

And since when does the true conservative movement believe Mr. obama?
If Obama says its the same then it is the same!!!!!!!

Lets not try to even read the Romneycare bill (like i did) because it is after all the SAME,

/Rush, Levin, Perry,etc….

OrthodoxJew on December 23, 2011 at 8:27 AM

Well, if Virginia wants to disenfranchise themselves by excluding Gingrich and Perry let them go for it!

Nomas on December 23, 2011 at 8:46 AM

If the best that the Republican Party can offer is another McCain clone – Romney, then America deserves 4 more years of Obama. I’ll never vote for Romney! Republicans have run Palin and Cain off, and Gingrich is the only candidate they have left who I’ll vote for.

Karmi on December 23, 2011 at 8:47 AM

Newt’s in, the man upstairs will see to that!

angrymike on December 23, 2011 at 8:52 AM

The rules should apply equally to everyone – if 10,000 VALID signatures are required, then 10,000 VALID signatures should be required for all candidates.

If Perry and Gingrich do not turn in 10,000 valid signatures, then they should not be on the ballot PERIOD. If however, an exception is made for Perry and Gingrich, if VA Republicans turn a blind eye to any problems with these signatures, then they should also make an exception for Santorum, Bachmann and Huntsman and put them all on the ballot.

Certainly if I were Santorum or Bachmann, I would push hard for the VA Republicans to hold all candidates to the same rules – fair is fair.

Pork-Chop on December 23, 2011 at 9:02 AM

CherryBombsBigBrownBeaver on December 22, 2011 at 11:22 PM
I’ve noticed all the control freaks love giving friendly advice. It’s never just advice, it’s friendly advice.

I don’t want your advice. You are being a jackass for no reason…you need to go see a proctologist and get the gigantic bugg removed from your butt, because you seem a little uptight.

I’m just a guy who likes talking politics, why the hell you feel the need to attack me I do not understand. Please stop talking to me.

Dr. Tesla on December 22, 2011 at 11:25 PM
*******************************************************************

You know, after your initial comments and attempt at comedy and sodomy…when you actually stick to the politics you love…YOU do have something to say! I like to hear from you…then!
It’s when your comments deviate from from that ‘love’ of politics, that I see the shet between the ears, spewing out of the mouth and the enema tube trailing behind.

KOOLAID2 on December 23, 2011 at 9:09 AM

Romney and Paul to choose from??

Actually I was expecting the field to be narrowed down to Romney or Romney by the time VA got to its primary? I have not done a write in before, now’s a good time.

Palin? Besides saying she does not want to do this, her life would be literally in danger if she ran or got the nomination. People’s fanatical hatred of her is down right scary.

TerryW on December 23, 2011 at 9:14 AM

These 3 will be long gone from the race by the time VA votes.

Redford on December 23, 2011 at 9:17 AM

Conveniently enough, the top 3 GOP “frontrunners” all have significant scandal/controversy attached to their names respectively. MSM happy to be sure~

sunshinek67 on December 23, 2011 at 9:19 AM

Conveniently enough, the top 3 GOP “frontrunners” all have significant scandal/controversy …..

What is defined as controversial is decided by the MSM, so any Republican nominee will always have controversy attached to their names.

fadetogray on December 23, 2011 at 9:30 AM

Well Allah, you can go ahead and say good things about Romney and if he wins the nomination I am going to vote for myself or the Libertarian candidate. Romney is no Republican and barely a RINO. The Obama team couldn’t be happier than to run against Romney and as this nominating process continues, I am reluctantly beginning to think that Obama is going to win reelection in a squeaker if Romney is nominated. I believe that Romney just doesn’t have the verbal skills to convince the Independents and undecideds to come his way and the media is going to be even more all in for Obama this time around. I hope I am wrong, but I never thought a Nowhere Man like Obama could win the presidency and boy was I wrong.

devolvingtowardsidiocracy on December 23, 2011 at 9:42 AM

I am not surprised Bachmann, Huntsman and Santorum failed to make the ballot in Virginia. Any serious political junkie knows that these three do not have either the organization or money or both to go far in the primary process.

Bob Vander Plaats must be one unhappy man now – for backing Santorum.

The race is going to come down to Romney vs. Perry or Gingrich. I put my money on Perry because Gingrich’s baggage has caught up with him and his lack of early organization has crippled him.

Conservatives, please get behind Perry now. It is our only chance to beat Romney and Obama. You back the other candidates at your peril. Bachmann and/or Santorum will drop out later and I bet at least one of them will back Romney. Gingrich cannot win either the primary or the general. He is hated that bad.

Vote Perry 2012 for a sure ticket to get America working again.

TheRightMan on December 23, 2011 at 9:43 AM

Vote Perry 2012 for a sure ticket to get America working again.

TheRightMan on December 23, 2011 at 9:43 AM

***THUMPS UP!!***

avagreen on December 23, 2011 at 9:45 AM

But, hey!, in Indiana BO and Hilary’s petition were forged at the state level and everything is just super dandy!!

1nolibgal on December 23, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Will Americans elect a Moron for President?

richardporter on December 23, 2011 at 7:40 AM

Uhh, yeah – we tried that. It’s not working…

affenhauer on December 23, 2011 at 10:08 AM

It isn’t about money where Romney is concerned–and it isn’t because he’s the flip-flopper everyone seems to think he is. If Romney was truly a flip-flopper, he’d be out-Gingriching Gingrich and out-Perrying Perry right about now. For example, Romney won’t apologize or express regrets about Romneycare because he genuinely believes no apology is required:

troyriser_gopftw on December 22, 2011 at 10:55 PM.

This is a load of crap and reeks of the revisionist history often taught on left wing college campuses.
Daemonocracy on December 23, 2011 at 3:20 AM

‘…reeks of revisionist history often taught on left wing college campuses’? For one thing, I strongly doubt Mitt Romney has any defenders in academe, especially in traditionally far-left liberal arts history and political science departments. For another, there’s a vitriolic hatred for the man in some conservative circles I find puzzling. Sure, Romney’s a typical Northeastern moderate Republican, and yeah, RomneyCare is probably too big of an obstacle for the man to win the conservative base, but I think some of you are losing perspective here.

Romney is a moderate Republican, just as Chris Christie is a moderate Republican, as well as Scott Brown, Olympia Snowe, and others. The truth of the matter is Republican politicians in solidly blue states cannot win major elective office by running as hardcore conservative, redstate politicians. You should know this. So saying they’re not conservative enough might be true. Saying they’re not Republican enough isn’t.

You don’t like the Republican Party? Fine. Then quit the GOP and go elsewhere. The Libertarians are putting up Gary Johnson for President this year. He could sure use your help. The Conservative Party exists. I don’t know much about the Conservative Party, but they don’t come across like a loony-toons fringe group. I’m pretty sure you’d be safe from RINOs there. Of course, Ron Paul might yet go for a third party split–you can go with him and do your part to fight government mind control water fluoridation programs and save Iran from the evil cabal of international Zionist bankers intent upon its destruction.

Otherwise, support the GOP nominee whomever it might be, and give Obama the one-term presidency he so richly deserves.

troyriser_gopftw on December 23, 2011 at 10:13 AM

How could Bachmann, Huntsman, and Santorum have failed this epically?

A blunder worthy of saga.

Akzed on December 23, 2011 at 10:22 AM

fadetogray on December 23, 2011 at 9:30 AM

s-a-r-c-a-s-m

sunshinek67 on December 23, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Otherwise, support the GOP nominee whomever it might be, and give Obama the one-term presidency he so richly deserves.

troyriser_gopftw on December 23, 2011 at 10:13 AM

I wish I could smoke whatever it is you are smoking this morning.

Romney to beat Obama? LOL…

Face it, my dear friend, if Romney is the nominee we will get a second Obama term and it will be the easiest re-election ever. Also forget about recapturing the Senate, we might also lose some seats in the House.

Yes, dampened morale among a pissed-off GOP base can have a lot of consequences.

The GOP Establishment is okay with an Obam win. Infact, they prefer that to a Perry win or to a lesser extent, a Gingrich win.

Because the party goes on…

I sure hope you are also a DC rat feeding off the corrupt Big Govt. – otherwise tough luck to you.

A Romney win in the primary = An Obama win in the general.

No ifs and/or buts.

TheRightMan on December 23, 2011 at 10:40 AM

The Conservative Party exists.

troyriser_gopftw on December 23, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Yes, it does. And it fits my political views better than the modern Republican Party does.

trigon on December 23, 2011 at 10:57 AM

So our choices are…

Romney – A Liberal Republican who’s proud accomplishments are a single term as Governor of MA #47 in job creation during his tenure, winning one election in 17 years of trying, and author of the blueprint for Obamacare. He also refuses to release his tax returns.

Paul – A 76 year old backbenching Truther nutball who is a bigoted porkbarrel hypocrite and has never had a meaningful legislative accomplishment or leadership.

Gingrich – A disgraced former Speaker of the House, who cashed in after he quit both his leadership position and his congressional seat to become a lobbyist (or the world’s highest paid historian), married two of his former mistresses and is at least politically Bi-Polar.

Bachmann – Another self-aggrandizing backbencher member of congress who doesn’t have a record of congressional accomplishment to prop up her self-aggrandizing and resorts to lying,exaggerations,liberal vicimization tactics and complete fictions to bolster her attacks on her opponents and avoid responsibility for campaign management failure.

Santorum – A Hasbeen K Street compassionate conservative politician with a google problem,A mixed big government voting record, Santorum lost, with 41% of the vote to Casey’s 59%,[85][86] the largest margin of defeat ever for an incumbent Republican Senator in Pennsylvania, endorsed Arlen Specter, lived in his district for month a year & billed his district $73,000.00 or more for on-line schooling of his kids while they lived in Virgina.

Huntsman – A conservative former governor of Utah who also worked for Obama as Ambassador of China.

Perry – A Veteran Pilot who has stumbled in some debates and had some verbal gaffes but is also a Three Term Conservative Governor of a state that created 3 out of 4 private sector jobs in the country, has a balanced budget that was balanced through budget cuts,a credit upgrade,a $1.6 Billion budget surplus on top of a replenished $7+ Billion Rainy Day Fund.

Really?

“He, like President Obama, inherited an economy from George W. Bush. Unlike Obama, Perry has shrunk government regulation, cut taxes, and turned the Texas economy into a booming one.”

http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/130329/rick_perry_is_the_only?utm_source=The+Perry+Almanac&utm_camp

Gig Em’
Perry 2012

workingclass artist on December 23, 2011 at 11:01 AM

I see you’re still obsessing about Palin.

Bit of a cultist, are you?

tom on December 23, 2011 at 1:19 AM

You are the weakest commenter here when it comes to straw man arguments.

csdeven on December 23, 2011 at 11:10 AM

Is this the way to select our presidential candidate: make them raise money and file complex paperwork in 50 states?

This is a lot of wasted expense for little benefit. The party can do this work for the general election. It only adds to factors that screen out good candidates.

Jay Cost argues persuasively that Republicans should go back to state conventions instead of primaries. Conventions were public and did not let Democrats and their press jackals participate. There was deliberation, and problems from opposition research could be considered privately.

Also, any clown who refused to exclude running as a third party candidate could be excluded.

Why do we follow the primary method of Democrats, created with little thought in 1968 as a concession to anti-war leftists?

WhatNot on December 23, 2011 at 11:10 AM

Obama who declared Romneycare the model for his national boondoggle.

NoLeftTurn on December 23, 2011 at 7:24 AM

Right, and with the same logic, I’ll give you credit for all further nastiness at HA.

See how that works? Just because one CLAIMS another is the architect of a plan, it doesn’t make it so. The fact is that Masscare is constitutional and Obamacare is not. There is no way Masscare is the model for Obamacare.

csdeven on December 23, 2011 at 11:13 AM

As Rush says – you write P A L I N. He said it is a very easy 5 letter word.

karenhasfreedom on December 22, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Maybe some people need to lay off Rush for a while. He’s a bomb-thrower who could possibly sway the influenced to make a dumb decision resulting in Obama for four more years.

salem on December 23, 2011 at 11:14 AM

Gig Em’
Perry 2012

workingclass artist on December 23, 2011 at 11:01 AM

Thanks for laying it out so clearly, workingclass artist. :)

The media – both conservative and liberal – are doing their best to ignore Perry hoping he goes away.

If it comes down to a contest between Romney and Gingrich, Romney wins. Hence the Establishment trying to promote those two.

I pray Iowa silences them and brings Perry back into the limelight while proving the death knell of Bachmann, Santorum, and Gingrich.

TheRightMan on December 23, 2011 at 11:15 AM

If they end up getting bounced, the Republican primary ballot for one of America’s key swing states will consist exclusively of … Mitt Romney and Ron Paul.

Which, of course means that Romney wins in a landslide. We Virginians are more sensible than supporting a cranky clueless nutjob whose appeal is almost exclusively among those who smoke pot.

Happy Nomad on December 23, 2011 at 11:23 AM

Transcription of Ron Paul’s Solicitation Letter

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/12/23/transcription-of-ron-pauls-solicitation-letter/

In all of it’s ludicrous nutty glory…I’d pay a wooden nickel to tour Ron Paul’s backyard shelter at the compound.

workingclass artist on December 23, 2011 at 11:25 AM

Wow…..reading most posts….good to see People all fired up!!!

Except for Paul (sorry Ron, no offense)…..when we get through the mudd flinging, rants and back stabbing…have our nominee in place….can we turn that energy onto the Marxist in Charge??

Sorry…(except for Paul,again no offense Ronnie) a shoe box would be a better leader than the Socialist Marxist that’s in OUR WHITE HOUSE NOW!!!

He MUST be defeated or I’m affraid….our American exceptionalism and Capitalism society will be lost forever….

coach1228 on December 23, 2011 at 11:32 AM

TheRightMan on December 23, 2011 at 11:15 AM

Big Media is doing their very best to herd the cattle into the chute.

This election will be influenced by bloggers as more and more voters rely on the net to get information.

As long as the GOP nominee is either Romney or Gingrich then Obama can run a traditional incumbent campaign, Blam Bush or all of his troubles, have Bill Clinton campaign for him making pie in the sky promises and use the current GOP leadership as his foil…and rally his base and independents.

If the GOP nominee is Gov. Perry the election will be about the economy, the failure of liberal policies as compared to successful conservative policies, Broke Blue States v Recovering Red States, The 10th Amendment, The Budget and Obama’s cynical failure at securing the border.

Perry said in an interview that this is not a typical D v R election but rather like 1980 a conservative v liberal election…And in that election Bill Clinton/Obama holds no sway with independents against the Record in Texas under Perry’s executive leadership and Obama will be forced to run a social issues fringe campaign and be stuck with fringe support. That is why Perry is the best choice as both candidate and president.

Ideas Matter.Policies Matter.Records Matter.

Results Matter

workingclass artist on December 23, 2011 at 11:37 AM

coach1228 on December 23, 2011 at 11:32 AM

I’ve got to put Huntsman and Bachmann in the same category as Paul…. unelectable (at least at the top of the ticket). Face it, if their organizations can’t even muster 10,000 signatures in Virginia of all places, then they shouldn’t be taken seriously as candidates.

Happy Nomad on December 23, 2011 at 11:40 AM

workingclass artist on December 23, 2011 at 11:37 AM

While I am not especially keen on Romney or Gingrich, I’m one of those people who need convincing that Perry has what it takes to win the election. Face it, as bad a debater as Obama is, Perry isn’t exactly able to get his message out and we need somebody that is clear and unambiguous that they intend to stop the job-killing socialism, repeal Obamacare, and do something about the economy other than massive spending sprees that do nothing but reward political cronies.

Happy Nomad on December 23, 2011 at 11:43 AM

Yes, it does. And it fits my political views better than the modern Republican Party does.

trigon on December 23, 2011 at 10:57 AM

Then by all means support the Conservative Party platform and vote for its candidate, whoever that is. The third party problem, of course, is the comparatively small size of the tent. To be viable in national elections, a political party must be broad enough culturally, topically, and geographically to actually win or even stand a chance at winning. People complain endlessly about RINOs on here–which is natural, given that this is a politically conservative site, but the term ‘RINO’ doesn’t really apply. Folks who use the term aren’t referring to phony Republicans, per se: they’re referring to moderate Republicans, the slightly right-of-center types on the American political spectrum. If the GOP wants to capture any states in the Northeast or the blue coastal states in the West, then you’d better believe Republicans are more moderate, otherwise they wouldn’t be elected.

No political party lasts forever. You can ask the Whigs about that.

troyriser_gopftw on December 23, 2011 at 12:06 PM

Happy Nomad on December 23, 2011 at 11:43 AM

1. When voters meet Perry…They like him. He excels at retail politicking by just being himself & voters respond to his authenticity. He doesn’t try to be anything but who he is.

2. There is no intelligent dispute with regards to the Facts in the Record of the Texas Economy and it’s stark contrast to Obama’s Economy.

3. Any attempt to deny Perry credit for successful executive leadership on the Texas Economy is an obvious failure in logic as Americans always practice the maxim of stopping the buck at the desk of the executive for either credit or blame. If Obama discredits Perry for the Texas economy he also discredits himself for the capture of Bin Ladin.

4. Perry as nominee nullifies Obama’s Blame Bush tactic. Perry also nullifies the Bush 2.0 argument as he has a demonstrable record of opposing some key Bush Policies as not being conservative enough.

5 None of Obama’s foreign policies overseas that he will claim as successes mean much if He has Failed to Secure the Border of the United States…And nobody else can speak with the authority of experience about securing the southern border and the federal abandonment at the US-Mexico Border.

6. Gov. Perry can split the hispanic vote and will have Tejanos campaigning for him on economy & border security. The Texas Hispanic GOP Caucus endorsed Perry before he announced even as he pushed an anti-sanctuary city bill in a special session because of Perry’s record on the economy and the border. That matters and Tejanos won’t as readily campaign for either Gingrich or especially Romney no matter how much they pander.

7. Perry won’t back down on the EPA,Dept. of Education,Federal Regulations,Budgets or the 10th amendment because these are part of his political makeup and have been for years.

I’d like to see some Texas prosperity spread to the rest of the nation…cause too many liberal economic refugees are fleeing to Texas and bringing their politics with em’

workingclass artist on December 23, 2011 at 12:18 PM

troyriser_gopftw on December 23, 2011 at 12:06 PM

Reagan won in 1980 by campaigning on a conservative platform against the failure of the liberal platform.

The GOP must nominate a successful conservative with a successful governing record to contrast with Obama’s.

workingclass artist on December 23, 2011 at 12:24 PM

csdeven on December 23, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Romneycare crew were at the Whitehouse working on the draft of Obamacare and have admitted there are no significant differences between the two.

workingclass artist on December 23, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Although any of these three would be far superior choices for the R nomination than the current set of front runners, its probably a good thing they will not be on the VA ballot as the polls say they don’t get any R support. What that says about the GOP electorate is very sad, if not outright disgusting.

aposematic on December 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Well Allah, you can go ahead and say good things about Romney and if he wins the nomination I am going to vote for myself or the Libertarian candidate. Romney is no Republican and barely a RINO. The Obama team couldn’t be happier than to run against Romney and as this nominating process continues, I am reluctantly beginning to think that Obama is going to win reelection in a squeaker if Romney is nominated. I believe that Romney just doesn’t have the verbal skills to convince the Independents and undecideds to come his way and the media is going to be even more all in for Obama this time around. I hope I am wrong, but I never thought a Nowhere Man like Obama could win the presidency and boy was I wrong.

you guys call all moderate rerpublicans Rino’s. so i guess the only true republicans are deep conservatives.

you will not win a general election without us Rino’s voting for the candidate whoever it is.

gerry-Rino-mittbot

gerrym51 on December 23, 2011 at 12:58 PM

Right, and with the same logic, I’ll give you credit for all further nastiness at HA.
See how that works? Just because one CLAIMS another is the architect of a plan, it doesn’t make it so. The fact is that Masscare is constitutional and Obamacare is not. There is no way Masscare is the model for Obamacare.
csdeven on December 23, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Obama said Romneycare was the prototype for Obamacare. I assume he knows better than you do where his inspiration came from. See how that works?

NoLeftTurn on December 23, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Gerry,

It’s always seemed to me the the “RINOS” tend to dump on conservatives, and you didn’t even get close to winning without conservatives.

I think moderates in the party need to stop flipping off conservative with we disagree with them.

Moderates within the party are more likely to vote for Obama than Romney in the end. The whole logic of Romney’s campaign is that conservatives will vote for him if only because he’s not Obama, so it’s hard to make conservatives out as the bad guys.

In the end, you can rely on the conservative base more than the moderates pushing Romney now to vote for Romney if it comes down to that. Most of the moderates in our party don’t much of a problem with Obama.

Dr. Tesla on December 23, 2011 at 1:14 PM

The only talking points Rick Santorum has is his defense of marriage and his stance against buggerin’, and he dealt that hand for all it was worth in Iowa. His campaign is in an a$$ dive that he has 0 chance of correcting.

Perry is the only reasonable alternative to Newtzilla or a Willardtocracy.

Perry 2012

Spirit Crusher on December 23, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Dr. Tesla on December 23, 2011 at 1:14 PM

Most of us Rino’s think the opposite. we think conservatives are holding the party hostage. And i disagree. Rino’s are REPUBLICANS.
we mostly vote for REPUBLICANS. we are no more likely to vote democratic then democrats are to vote republicans.

I am a moderate republican and have Never voted for a democrat
and I am what you would consider a RINO

gerrym51 on December 23, 2011 at 2:05 PM

Perry is the only reasonable alternative to Newtzilla or a Willardtocracy.

Perry 2012

Spirit Crusher on December 23, 2011 at 1:46 PM

HA!

Gig Em’
Perry 2012

workingclass artist on December 23, 2011 at 2:08 PM

While I am not especially keen on Romney or Gingrich, I’m one of those people who need convincing that Perry has what it takes to win the election. Face it, as bad a debater as Obama is, Perry isn’t exactly able to get his message out and we need somebody that is clear and unambiguous that they intend to stop the job-killing socialism, repeal Obamacare, and do something about the economy other than massive spending sprees that do nothing but reward political cronies.

Happy Nomad on December 23, 2011 at 11:43 AM

Perry has been doing great in the last few (four) debates…… in the Fox, December 15 debate, he said he is “starting to like this debate thing”…. but, are we electing a debater in chief or a commander in chief. Perry has a record in Texas to proves he walks his talk… and, BTW, what is with this ability to debate Obama thing? The man cannot talk his way out of a paper bag without a teleprompter, even uses them for his press conferences…

Rapunzel on December 23, 2011 at 2:19 PM

Rick Perry all the way! He has the best record, energy plan, and on creating jobs. He is getting better and better at debates and look it how he manages to get under Romney’s skin all the time. Yep, I can see him doing that with Obama too, since both Romney and Obama are very thin skinned and rather condescending.

conjn19 on December 23, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Rick Perry all the way! He has the best record, energy plan, and on creating jobs. He is getting better and better at debates and look it how he manages to get under Romney’s skin all the time. Yep, I can see him doing that with Obama too, since both Romney and Obama are very thin skinned and rather condescending.

conjn19 on December 23, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Rick Perry!!! Because he’s … uh… whoops…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on December 23, 2011 at 3:07 PM

Quote: “you will not win a general election without us Rino’s voting for the candidate whoever it is.”

The idiot RINOS back east are more liberal than the DEMOCRATS in these parts – and they look at us with upturned noses, and think us nothing more than stupid sniveling trogs. The coasts of this nation are so ideologically departed from the center of it that the left/right D.C. power elite – and the media shills that worship them – are completely unable to understand the ideological position of us Midwestern, Southwestern, and Northwestern “bitter clingers.”

What’s good for NYC is not what’s good for Butte Montana, and as the government becomes more and more centralized, overbearing, and obtrusive, we the people are strangling under laws that might be fine for the serfs in Boston, but are completely unacceptable in Idaho Falls – even amongst the “liberals.”

There was a point in my life that I felt that, by voting for the Republicans strait party ticket, this would be reversed, halted, or at least slowed down a bit. But 4 years of Bush I, 8 Years of Bush II, the idiot McWeenie, and the INEPT BUBBLING BAWLING SPUTTERING Bohener Congress has more than dispelled THAT illusion.

The Republican establishment, is, in my opinion, now firmly a PART OF THE PROBLEM rather than a solution to, or even a minor speed bump on, the road to hell.

It’s full on government leviathan, eating up our rights, passing more and more stupid one size-fits all laws, to the point where we are ALL NOW CRIMINALS – I can say with certitude, that the ONLY thing that is keeping any single person reading this screed out of jail, court, or from paying fines, is the fact that you are NOT receiving any scrutiny.

The second any one of you gets uppity, the cops, federal law enforcement, the TSA, etc, can and WILL find some federal regulation to hit you with. Don’t believe me?

Go talk to the owner of Gibson Guitars then get back to me.

But where am I to go?

Rue Paul and the crazies?
The full-commie Democrats?

Even the RePubics I consider to be truly conservative are… underwhelming. I spoke personally with Santorum at the Iowa Straw poles when he was in in the radio tent broadcasting on WHO Radio. He seemed earnest, but he was no R.R.

We have no debaters – and no communicators. We have ad-hominem attacks, straw-men arguments, appeals to ridicule, these are not debates… My GOD go listen to Milton Friedman online… then listen to our republican candidates and (shudder) the Demonrats… it’s just one formal and informal fallacy after another.

I feel as though I am not being represented by my government. I feel it is too big, and neither party has any genuine interest in shrinking it.

I am done with holding my nose, and I aim to get “uppity.” The RNC are proving to me they are nothing more than another East coast power broker, with near zero interest in reducing the scope of government control over our lives, and from what I can tell, other than the barest minimum lip-service, they have no damn intention of changing that.

Go to hell RePubic establishment, and take your RINO candidates with you.

SilverDeth on December 23, 2011 at 3:19 PM

I am a moderate republican and have Never voted for a democrat
and I am what you would consider a RINO

gerrym51 on December 23, 2011 at 2:05 PM

I never call anybody a RINO, if only because I hate acroynms. It’s a core value. I work in the nuclear power industry and we are bombarded by them when words would work just as well if not better.

The reality is, moderates generally get their way. If conservative “held the party hostage”, I don’t think we would have nominated Eisenhower, Dole, Bush Sr, McCain and possibly Romney.

In my view, the party is held hostage by moderates who would never suppport a primary run-off.

Dr. Tesla on December 23, 2011 at 3:25 PM

Prager’s characterization of the GOP as the stupid party gets more accurate with each passing day. Instead of the last candidate standing, it will be the candidate who at least has the organizational capacity that God gave badgers.

ConservativeLA on December 23, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Quote: “you will not win a general election without us Rino’s voting for the candidate wh

What’s good for NYC is not what’s good for Butte Montana, and as the government becomes more and more centralized, overbearing, and obtrusive, we the people are strangling under laws that might be fine for the serfs in Boston, but are completely unacceptable in Idaho Falls – even amongst the “liberals.”

oever it is.”

I think this is the problem. how many people in montana?.
everyone has the right to their opinons an desires but the reason the bigger states have more pull is because they have far more people.

the far right conservatives are a small part of the party but because of the way our primary rules work they get far more power in the primaries. In the general they have far less power.

the minorities are protected by the constitution but they don’t get to call the shots. when the right conservatives get the majority then THEY CAN CALL THE SHOTS

gerrym51 on December 23, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Even though I don’t always agree with Allahpundit, I like his writing style so much more than Ed Morrissey’s. AP is insightful, never too heavy and usually considers all sides, without being overly biased against any one candidate. This post is a good example of that. Ed’s writing, on the other hand, sometimes has more than a whiff of haughtiness and moralizing, which leaves me a bit cold. I wish AP would handle more of the political campaign strategy analysis and leave to Ed things like explaining legal technicalities.

bluegill on December 23, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Bluegill never has a whiff of haughtiness and moralizing when she prattles on and on about Gingrich’s past adultery.

Dr. Tesla on December 23, 2011 at 6:09 PM

The word on Twitter is that the VA GOP has kicked Perry off, and may also kick Gingrich off. The final word will come down on Tuesday.

Steve Eggleston on December 23, 2011 at 6:52 PM

Wow, this sucks that Perry didn’t qualify! Makes up about 10% of the Super Tuesday delegates available…….

BTW here is a video of Perry on the press bus yesterday, I really like this man:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZHRZF2GIIk&feature=player_embedded#!

Rapunzel on December 23, 2011 at 7:06 PM

WE need Sarah Palin in this race!

Pork-Chop on December 23, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Quote: “the minorities are protected by the constitution but they don’t get to call the shots. when the right conservatives get the majority then THEY CAN CALL THE SHOTS”

Hey RINO – if I am not represented by the party, I won’t for it. Enjoy – neither will millions like me.

Enjoy 4 more years of Barry the wonder turd destroying America. I choose oblivion over capitulation.

SilverDeth on December 23, 2011 at 11:30 PM

Bachmann-Santorum Underdrive…..

Sherman1864 on December 24, 2011 at 1:44 AM

Larry Sabato has been at UVA and commenting on elections and politics since the early ’80s. He should know better.

Virginia always takes the signatures seriously. I never heard of anyone getting a pass, and they scrutinize the things closely. It has to match exactly with the voter registration or it doesn’t count, and never has.

Even Romney and Paul cut it pretty close. To be safe, you need 20,000 and 800 in each district. People will sign a petition for ballot access and tell you they are registered when they are not. It’s amazing how many of these you get if the collectors aren’t questioning each signer closely (and most don’t).

Adjoran on December 24, 2011 at 5:31 AM

Also, if anyone wonders, party primaries in Virginia do not allow write-in votes. You can write in at the general election, but only qualifying candidates can receive votes in a primary.

Adjoran on December 24, 2011 at 5:33 AM

Enjoy 4 more years of Barry the wonder turd destroying America. I choose oblivion over capitulation.

I see your a cut your nose off to spite your face kind of guy.

gerrym51 on December 24, 2011 at 8:17 AM

Fiasco: Bachmann, Huntsman, Santorum fail to make Virginia ballot

Bachmann’s my girl, but remembering the night the Savior was born turns me into a kitten. I cannot be upset. All can I do is love. Allahpundit, come here please. I’d like to give you a hug, a great big hug.

apocalypse on December 24, 2011 at 3:43 PM

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