Breaking: House GOP agrees to Senate’s two-month payroll-tax bill; Update: House freshmen want a floor vote; Update: “It may not have been politically the smartest thing in the world”

posted at 4:11 pm on December 22, 2011 by Allahpundit

Just across from National Journal. Our dumb national nightmare is over.

House Republicans on Thursday crumpled under the weight of White House and public pressure and have agreed to pass a two-month extension of the 2 percent payroll-tax cut, Republican and Democratic sources told National Journal…

The House will pass the two-month extension with a technical correction to the language designed to minimize difficulties businesses might experience implementing the short-term, two-month tax cut extension.

In exchange, Reid agreed to appoint several Senate Democrats to start negotiating with the House on a full-year payroll-tax holiday extension, which is right in line with McConnell’s blueprint from this morning. Updates are coming but let’s get this up since news is breaking. Two questions to mull while we wait. One: Does the “technical correction” mentioned by National Journal mean the Senate will have to return and pass the House’s version of the bill? I thought the House was under pressure to pass the Senate bill precisely because the upper chamber wasn’t going to reconvene before New Year’s. Two: If you’re going to cave, why not take Rove’s advice and wait another week, when people will be even more distracted by the holidays? Particularly strange is that this is breaking within just a few hours of The One holding a presser to demand action with middle-class taxpayers lovingly arrayed behind him. Now it looks like even more of a capitulation than it is. Merry Christmas from the GOP, champ. Exit quotation from Philip Klein: “So instead of story being ‘Obama caves on Keystone’ it’ll be ‘GOP caves on middle class tax cut’ Great work!”

Update: The House Republican conference call on the bill is set for 5 p.m. Serious question: If he can’t muster enough GOP votes to pass this thing despite overwhelming support from Democrats, is he done as Speaker?

Update: If Boehner thinks he’s going to pass this thing quietly, via unanimous consent, he’s apparently mistaken.

Freshman Rep. Sean Duffy, R- Wisc., who represents a marginal district that was held for many years by Democrat David Obey, said, “I’m calling on GOP leadership to immediately bring up the Senate’s two-month extension for an up or down vote.”

Another GOP freshman Rep. Rick Crawford of Arkansas made a similar statement.

Update: It’s a little after 5:30 ET and Boehner’s holding a presser as I write this. The takeaway thus far: “It may not have been politically the smartest thing in the world” to wage this ultimately futile war. Smart thinking, JB.

A reporter asked him if he knows whether there’ll be no objection by the GOP rank and file if he moves for unanimous consent. Answer: “I don’t know that.” Hmmmm.

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I found it!

I found it!

I found it!

A Spine

Belongs to Republican leadership…..can someone return it?

ProfShadow on December 22, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Give it to me. I’ll take it to Mitch McConnell and proctologically put it back where it should be.

Got spares? We could use a whole frickin truckload… Our leadership are either straight-up gutless sell-outs (McCrackhead) or total chumps (Boehner). It’s a damned shame.

CantCureStupid on December 22, 2011 at 6:14 PM

does anyone actually think this will get unanimous consent to pass? This may not be over yet ;))

smitty41 on December 22, 2011 at 6:12 PM

I just read that if they don’t have unanimous consent it will cost a couple million dollars to bring everyone back to vote.As much as I hate this, adding a few million dollars isn’t going to endear the Republicans to an already hostile public… .

sandee on December 22, 2011 at 6:15 PM

Rational Thought on December 22, 2011 at 6:02 PM

Yeah….and the debt..Solyndra..Fast & Furious..MF Global..First Solar.. the actions of the NLRB..illegal aliens..250K of taxpayers $ per Volt..etc..etc..etc..

All gone.
Off the radar…..for $40. a week.
They are in on the scam. Sorry…they are either in on the corruption or unbelievably dumb.
They will change nothing

Mimzey on December 22, 2011 at 6:17 PM

There are enough RINOs in the senate to get Reid to cloture.

The Dems want to repeat this fight closer to the election, counting on the Stupid Party not to riase the real issue- these “taxes” fund Social Security.

Wethal on December 22, 2011 at 6:13 PM

The GOP are the Stupid Party for a simple reason: They believe that Democrats want what is best for this country, but just disagree on how to get there. But the truth is the Democrats are the evil party, and every decision they make has an evil intent. The GOP has not figured this out, and evidently never will.

Dasher on December 22, 2011 at 6:17 PM

As much as I hate to say it, even though payroll management companies were against it, you got to let people feel the pain to understand the changes we need to make.

chunkyblack on December 22, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Earth to Boehner and McConnell: Talk to each other about strategery!

Steve Z

Why would McConnell be caught dead speaking with a lowly House member? He gets to vote with his “friends” in the Senate, while poking us in the eye while he turns his head and whistles as though nothing is going on.

In 2 months, you can best bet the democrats will add some ridiculous demand to the negotiations which will, of course, lead to more calls for compromise in the House.

SouthernGent on December 22, 2011 at 6:21 PM

Someone just said to me: “Everyone who really has their panties in a wad over this (and is not just playing at anger) should go find someone wherever they live — anyone in town who makes less than the Social Security cap — and scream at them and stamp feet until they agree to swap their ‘free pizza’ for your renewed Bush tax cut.”

kunegetikos on December 22, 2011 at 6:21 PM

How do you explain the public favoring a Democrat led Senate’s TWO MONTH extension of the payroll tax holiday being favored over the Republican led House’s ONE YEAR extension. I would say it’s lack of intelligence except that a large number of people evidently still rely on the so called mainstream media, which has become a fifth column supporting the Democrats in their push to transform America into an European socialist country, for their news.

Nomas on December 22, 2011 at 6:22 PM

I need a drink.

Signed, someone who works in the payroll industry

LawnGnomeFanFirst on December 22, 2011 at 6:24 PM

The Stupid Party.

And oh goody we get to do this again in 2 months, then again, and again.

El_Terrible on December 22, 2011 at 6:24 PM

I was in the car listening to Boehner’s press conference. Good Lord, why is he Speaker? He said something like we didn’t want to do it but it was the right thing to do… Wha? You didn’t want to do the right thing? That’ll make a great ad for the Dems.

Grrr…

Fallon on December 22, 2011 at 6:25 PM

And oh goody we get to do this again in 2 months, then again, and again.

El_Terrible on December 22, 2011 at 6:24 PM

And the Dems will keep adding more and more hidden crap to each bill. Without a budget, they are robbing us blind and Boehner is holding the bag for them.

Fallon on December 22, 2011 at 6:26 PM

What are you people taking about?
The Democrats won? The Republcans got a the Keystone pipeline measure overruling the President with the help of the Demorats .. . NO hike in 3 percent taxes ……What did the Democrats get? 2 months extention on a “tax holdiay”on FICA contribution instead of a year…..The Republicans orginial postion.

LeeSeneca on December 22, 2011 at 6:27 PM

The repubs don’t know how to fight or when. It is disgusting to run this country on continuing resolutions and let the dems have all the stimulus rolled into the base. The repubs better learn how to fight if they want a “party” in the future. Stupid is as stupid does!

tim c on December 22, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Once again we get rolled by Jug-ears and Dirty Harry. Great.

Zardoz on December 22, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Big headlines at all the news sources… Republicans Cave.

Grrr…

Fallon on December 22, 2011 at 6:28 PM

I’m fed up with our experienced establishment Republicans getting rolled time after time.

And how is it we were supposed to take a majority of the government this next cycle? Some miracle maybe?

And what make me even angrier is its the damn loony liberals are who’s doing it! Amateur bloggers kick these bobblehead’s butts daily, our pros can’t? Or don’t want to.

Seems like the only solution is a lot more Tea Party.

Speakup on December 22, 2011 at 6:28 PM

When politicians bend to whatever the polls are saying, regardless that most of those polls are rigged in the first place, there will be no conservative wins.

Obama is a brilliant warrior. Well, the Democratic party has been brilliant in this war of control and direction to take this country. Take California resdistricting as a shining example. The GOP played fair and folowed all rules. The Democrats went into war footing immediately and planned a one-sided outcome. The GOP was left wondering what happened.

How do we turn this around? Good gosh, gertie, play by the same rules – or un-rules. The Consitution of the United States is at risk here. If we don’t get into this fight, don’t complain when the PC police and socialism take you off to the gulag for ‘retraining’.

I know, this sounds harsh, and almost violent. That is NOT my intent. My message is for us to become more aware of what the Progressives are doing and what their goals are, then use their same tactics against them. We do it in the public square. Our ‘weapon’ of choice? Information my friends, information that tells the people what each law and government ruling will do to their income, their job, and their freedom. i.e. want free medical? Great! Show exactly who is going to pay for all that ‘free’ stuff!

SubDoc on December 22, 2011 at 6:31 PM

Once again Bachmann was right, unsurprisingly.

FloatingRock on December 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM

She should be Speaker, not Boner.

Decoski on December 22, 2011 at 6:32 PM

20,000 Pipeline Jobs @ $700 per week (net take home) = $14,000,000 = 350,000 $40 dollar Pizza Nights. So, in the two months that President Obama “may decide” to approve the Keystone Pipeline, this nation’s unemployed (mostly union workers) will be missing 2.8 million PIZZA NIGHTS!!! Nice job Barry and Democrats—you won!

Rovin on December 22, 2011 at 6:32 PM

I made a decision after the ’08 election: that I would never vote for someone just because they are a Republican or because the other guy is a Democrat. If that means Obambi gets back into office, then so be it, and let the Donks destroy the country in the process. The people then will never support them if that happens. We can never do wrong by doing right, and voting for someone who doesn’t support conservative values is wrong. These establishment Republicans are just as bad in the long run as any of the Donks. Boehner out to be removed.

HiJack on December 22, 2011 at 6:32 PM

sandee on December 22, 2011 at 6:15 PM

the cost should be on their dime, nobody told them to go home as the work wasn’t done and if some rich politician’s wanna explain why they didn’t come back, that oughta go over well

smitty41 on December 22, 2011 at 6:33 PM

Boehner, Cantor and McCarthy – the 21st Century version of Larry, Curley and Moe.

bw222 on December 22, 2011 at 6:34 PM

Scumsuckers cave. So you so called conservatives wonder why we , on the walls, defend you? No more…….

MNDavenotPC on December 22, 2011 at 6:35 PM

Obama did get what he wanted….. A VETO proof legistlation approving Keystone.
What?!, you ask?

If it’s veto proof , he can deflect attacks by his own party dweebs. “I had no power to stop it” ” I wasn’t my fault” “That darn Congress overrruled me”

LeeSeneca on December 22, 2011 at 6:36 PM

Wait a minute!…are we being punked??…are both parties really on the same side and this is just an act?!

Mimzey on December 22, 2011 at 6:01 PM

…and the penny drops.

squint on December 22, 2011 at 6:37 PM

but these guys are going to radically cut spending. why do we
support these weasels. why are they such chicken sh*ts?

rik on December 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM

If anyone should be the target of anger, scorn and derision it should be McConnell. He hung the House GOP out to dry and gets to be on the “winning” team. If Boehner does not have a accurate gut feeling how his members are leaning, than he shoudld lose the gavel. On a positive note, this should embolden the House conservatives to NOT cave when this comes up again in 2 months. This is a small defeat but hopefully, this will turn out to be a pyrhic victory for Obama. Boehner will need to take the temprature of his members before making a deal with McConnell next time.

Tony0253 on December 22, 2011 at 6:40 PM

Meh. Fire them all. Watch, come February, XL will be back on the chopping blocks as the donks bring in legislation to stop it as a condition to continued cuts. The donks don’t care what’s at stake as long as they can paint the gop in a bad light every two months until the election. To the house gop, do us a favor next year and remove boehner and Cantor from the leadership

AH_C on December 22, 2011 at 6:41 PM

“Politics is Hollywood for Ugly People”.

Rush Limbaugh

……….

Obama will go down in flames in 2012. We already know this.

We must now use the $40.00 talking point in general terms, to show that the House GOP fought on principle and the OWS fought on fanfare.

The Conservatives must insist on Obama speaking without a teleprompter, going forward, for the entire year of 2012.

Key West Reader on December 22, 2011 at 6:42 PM

Pubs. have to be the dumbest party evah! Worse than the three stooges. This is what conservatives are supporting, this bunch of clowns? I will vote for Obama before I reward these idiots.

they lie on December 22, 2011 at 6:43 PM

ATTENTION reactionaries…..THE GOP WON

The got Keystone , no increase in taxes

The GOP normal stance would be a shorter tax holiday. They only took the longer stance to insure they got the important stuff.

The GOP is letting the news media play like it’s a win for the Democrats now, so the Democrats wouldn’t hold up the legistlaton and take “credit” for losing.

LeeSeneca on December 22, 2011 at 6:43 PM

The Republcans got a the Keystone pipeline measure overruling the President with the help of the Demorats ..

LeeSeneca on December 22, 2011 at 6:27 PM

They did?

Mimzey on December 22, 2011 at 6:43 PM

You don’t deserve my support. Not one of you who think this a good move. Are you happy Ed? Are you happy that you stand in the “good feeling” line? I am involving myself in the political field and the dropping out of the Suttons , Kochs and Broardkorbs(sp), is a good thing.

MNDavenotPC on December 22, 2011 at 6:44 PM

Surely there must be a Legislating for Dummies book they could bone up on before getting themselves in these messes.

oregano on December 22, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Put some damn women in there. They know how to fight.

Rational Thought on December 22, 2011 at 4:17 PM

We need a new Speaker for 2012 (and a new Minority Leader in the Senate).

michaelo on December 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Marsha Blackburn for Speaker. Kelly Ayotte for Minority Leader.

Flora Duh on December 22, 2011 at 6:45 PM

but these guys are going to radically cut spending. why do we
support these weasels. why are they such chicken sh*ts?

rik on December 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM

We will change this Country one election at a time. The House GOP are not chicken sh*ts, they were put in office for a purpose. The control of the Senate is next.

In 2012, Americans will either elect Marxism/Socialism/Communism as their model. Or they won’t.

Elections have consequences. Urge your family, friends and neighbors to choose wisely. Next time.

Newt Time 2012.

Key West Reader on December 22, 2011 at 6:47 PM

What we have here folks is a failure to communicate. The Pubs are not getting our message. They SUCK!

they lie on December 22, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Big headlines at all the news sources… Republicans Cave are dumb azzes. FIFY

Grrr…

Fallon on December 22, 2011 at 6:28 PM

they lie on December 22, 2011 at 6:51 PM

Those (ban word) Republicans are such (ban word) spineless (ban words). What a heaping crock of (ban word) Somebody needs to (ban word) Boehner and gang right in their (ban words) Such a total (ban word) of God(ban word)(ban words) (Ban Word!!!!)

Horace on December 22, 2011 at 6:52 PM

I just have to say this again.

Obama will be a one term present-dunce. The most unqualified, unelectable (without the MSM) candidate in the history of the United States of America will return to his Tony Rezko mansion in the south side of Chicago with his over-sized wife and his worn out children. God bless both of them. I cannot imagine how difficult living in the WH has been. The horror of it all makes me sad for the entire Obama family, including the Mother of Michelle.

Bubbye, Obama. We really like you.

/No, we really do!

Key West Reader on December 22, 2011 at 6:53 PM

What a bunch of absolute Nancy boys. I am ashamed to be associated with them. This is the second time they have gone out there with a principled stand and then caved because they are afraid of the politics. No more. If this is the best we got, the republic is doomed, it’s just a matter of time.

Whitewolf7070 on December 22, 2011 at 6:53 PM

Horace on December 22, 2011 at 6:52 PM

LOL!

I for one am extremely angry at my party. I will vote against my elected representatives because I am so angry. I can’t believe that my party denied regular families a pizza. I can’t believe my party denied a regular family a tuna sandwich at Kahuna Grille. I just can’t believe how heartless, how soulless my Republican party has become. In protest, I bought myself a Barack Obama Christmas Ornament for $19.95, using my food stamp/EBT card.

That’ll teach them evil conservatives a lesson. Yes, I will. Harumph.

Key West Reader on December 22, 2011 at 6:57 PM

You want a preview of what a Romney presidency might look like? This is it. Cave, cave, cave. Go along to get along.

And people wonder why Romney is only getting 25% support.

angryed on December 22, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Craven acts like this simply deflate the grassroots. The folks in the trenches come to believe that they are putting their faith in the incompetent and the irresolute. They simply quit and withdraw, and not simply from activism, but from voting, too.

If someone as clearly radical like Obama can win EVERY TIME HE TRIES against the GOP, then why try anymore? Can you answer John Boehner?

Whitewolf7070 on December 22, 2011 at 7:00 PM

can someone tell us where keystone is in all this mess?

adplusone on December 22, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Dewussification. Why can’t our reps be as tough on democrats as they are terrorists? There’s not much difference between the two any more.

I swear, I’m going to buy a box of tampons and send them to Boehner.

BruthaMan on December 22, 2011 at 7:04 PM

Repubs need to come out and say loudly -

Whiners, you got 2 month tax break instead of a year. Just what you wanted!!

TfromV on December 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM

The takeaway thus far: “It may not have been politically the smartest thing in the world” to wage this ultimately futile war.

Duh.

Let’s fight it again in February, and let’s get Congress to mandate that the Keystone pipeline be permitted. According to the latest polls, 60% of the voters want the pipeline–let’s give them their wish!

Steve Z on December 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM

can someone tell us where keystone is in all this mess?

adplusone on December 22, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Ditto. Is the 60-day requirement for The Puppet President to make a decision still in the bill?

I blame this whole fiasco on Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. He never should have agreed to the 60-day ‘compromise’ with Dingy Harry. Once he caved, John Boehner was left in a completely untenable position. If the Republicans win back the Senate in 2012, I’d really like to see someone a lot more principled and dynamic as the new Majority Leader.

MrLynn on December 22, 2011 at 7:07 PM

The Republcans got a the Keystone pipeline measure overruling the President with the help of the Demorats ..

LeeSeneca on December 22, 2011 at 6:27 PM

ATTENTION reactionaries…..THE GOP WON

LeeSeneca on December 22, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Battle: won.

War: lost.

Bruno Strozek on December 22, 2011 at 7:07 PM

It’s becoming pretty clear that the GOP “rank and file” in the House are idiots. At the beginning of this year, after the 2010 elections, Obama was talking about his “shellacking”. 12 months later, despite Obama’s continued failures, these clowns have managed to let him take the high road as they run the GOP approval rating into the ground. An embarrassment, indeed …

ombdz on December 22, 2011 at 5:49 PM

See? there’s another damned clown, urinating on our heads and telling us it’s raining. ‘Rank and file’ my eye. IT’S THE RINO ESTABLISHMENT “LEADERS”. The same clowns that have been fumbling for decades. THEY are who needs to go.

rayra on December 22, 2011 at 7:08 PM

can someone tell us where keystone is in all this mess?

adplusone on December 22, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Well, we have been watching the Keystone Kops….

ElectricPhase on December 22, 2011 at 7:08 PM

You want a preview of what a Romney presidency might look like? This is it. Cave, cave, cave. Go along to get along.

And people wonder why Romney is only getting 25% support.

angryed on December 22, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Harry Reid would dictate to McConnell and Romney to get cloture, and Boehner would be pressured to be “bipartisan” and would cave. Reid would be the defacto president.

Wethal on December 22, 2011 at 7:09 PM

I can see a 40 state landslide win for Obama, from my house.

angryed on December 22, 2011 at 7:10 PM

Bruno

We didn’t win. What is it you don’t see? No one year, a “consideration within a couple months of the pipeline”? Are you kidding me? Crap pure crap.

MNDavenotPC on December 22, 2011 at 7:12 PM

can someone tell us where keystone is in all this mess?

adplusone on December 22, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Same where it’s always been. DOA. Keystone is NEVER getting built. better get that through your collective heads.

What incentive does Obama have now to approve it? He’d be a fool to do so knowing he has all the leverage in the next go round of negotiating. He will kill Keystone, bring back the millionaire tax and the GOP will happily go along with it.

I’m still in utter disbelief how badly McConnell/Boehner fu**ed this up. They have to be playing for the other side, right? No two people can be this stupid this often.

angryed on December 22, 2011 at 7:13 PM

I can see a 40 state landslide win for Obama, from my house.

angryed on December 22, 2011 at 7:10 PM

Good Lord..Let’s hope not..:)

Dire Straits on December 22, 2011 at 7:13 PM

Exit quotation from Philip Klein: “So instead of story being ‘Obama caves on Keystone’ it’ll be ‘GOP caves on middle class tax cut’ Great work!”

It’s no wonder nothing ever gets done right … everyone who covers politics spends 100% of their time and energy focusing on the idiotic politics and zero time on public policy. Nobody is paying attention to this idiot Obama and nobody gives a rip what McConnell, Reid and Boehner do.

They will give a major rip when someone gets around to pointing out what Obama’s fake tax cut to Social Security funding is doing to … Social Security funding. And when someone gets around to point out that while O’Bozo plays silly political games, he’s planning his next ground-shaking move toward full-blown socialism and a tax increase that will bring our economy to another screeching halt.

They’ll pay attention to that.

Jaibones on December 22, 2011 at 7:16 PM

The Stupid Party.

rickyricardo on December 22, 2011 at 7:17 PM

Scumsuckers cave. So you so called conservatives wonder why we , on the walls, defend you? No more…….

MNDavenotPC on December 22, 2011 at 6:35 PM

Here’s another moron, pretending / ignorantly positing that the GOP leadership is ‘conservative’. It’s demonstrably nothing of the sort. So you are either clueless or a deliberate liar.

rayra on December 22, 2011 at 7:18 PM

McConnell hung Boehner out to dry, personally, I would like to see them both pushed aside for younger blood. This entire thing is a joke, is SS broke or isn’t it broke??? yet we want to drain it further…… stupid is as stupid does.

Rapunzel on December 22, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Let’s fight it again in February…

Steve Z on December 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Everytime we fight one of these short term battles, we lose. Each time the can gets kicked down the road with the next new bill that contains more rules, regulations and entitlements written in. We are dying a death of a thousand cuts bills…

It is being done on purpose. That’s why we don’t have a budget. These short term fixes give them opportunities to slip more and more stuff in without the exposure or ceiling of a budget; the legislative version of Cloward-Piven.

Grrrr…

Fallon on December 22, 2011 at 7:20 PM

40 years on, the Republicans still can’t figure out how to frame and promote a coherent message.

Maybe because they don’t know what they believe in. Maybe because they have to make allusions to conservative believes all the while feeding at the money pot in DC….and loving it for real.

It’s tough being a Republican in DC.

At least the progressives can celebrate raping the public; the Republicans have to fake outrage.

rickyricardo on December 22, 2011 at 7:21 PM

rayra

then tell me how the conservatives won the day? Please? They are not conservative. They may be Republican, but not “conservative”.

MNDavenotPC on December 22, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Wow, what a monumental step forward. How in the hell can this group of stalwarts call this an accomplishment? Two months? Why not just abolish the thing altogether, rather than come back in two months and do this again. What a bunch of clowns.

scalleywag on December 22, 2011 at 7:23 PM

It is being done on purpose. That’s why we don’t have a budget. These short term fixes give them opportunities to slip more and more stuff in without the exposure or ceiling of a budget; the legislative version of Cloward-Piven.

Bingo. Incremental change is the progressive tour de force.

The Stupid Party and it’s impatient base have no clue how to play this game.

rickyricardo on December 22, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Not sure who I’m most pi$$ed off at: McConnell for acting the dupe when Dingy Harry shredded the House bill and wrote his own, Boehnor for not talking to both McConnell AND his caucus before making any agreements, or conservative punditry for wilting under pressure (especially the WSJ) and buying the Democrap premise instead of shouting from the rooftops that the Republicans wanted a one year extension and the Democraps were only proposing a 2 month extension.

How in the world did the Republicans and conservative punditry let the Republican desire for one year extension vs. Democrat 2 month extension get turned into a perception that the Democrats and Obama were for a tax cut and the Republicans were against it?

My prediction: In two months, the House passes an extension, Dingy Harry shreds it, waits until the current extension is about to expire, proposes and passes (his slobbering toady McConnell will dutifully bring along the goofy grinning RINOs) it, then demand that the House pass the Senate bill as is, with no conference and if they don’t it will be on the heads of those in the House because when the current extension expires in a couple days, it will because the House Republicans don’t want a middle class tax cut.

AZfederalist on December 22, 2011 at 7:24 PM

And the gloating begins.

DWStweets D Wasserman Schultz
It was about time the GOP put the needs of the middle class ahead of Tea Party politics and agreed to the payroll tax cut.
35 minutes ago

My reply to her:

@DWStweets When r Dems going 2 put the needs of the Brian Terry family 2 learn the truth about his MURDER above covering @BarakObama’s ass?
26 minutes ago

Flora Duh on December 22, 2011 at 7:27 PM

Chris Matthews must be tingling in his pants./

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 22, 2011 at 5:43 PM

just popped over to tingles show…oh yeah, he’s a giddy person tonight

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Democrats: “We have always been at war with EastAsia supported tax cuts”

Republicans: Uh….uh……ummm……

Palinistas: “Told you so, so now kiss my ass. The TEA party is on the rise.”

BobMbx on December 22, 2011 at 7:30 PM

My prediction: In two months, the House passes an extension, Dingy Harry shreds it, waits until the current extension is about to expire, proposes and passes (his slobbering toady McConnell will dutifully bring along the goofy grinning RINOs) it, then demand that the House pass the Senate bill as is, with no conference and if they don’t it will be on the heads of those in the House because when the current extension expires in a couple days, it will because the House Republicans don’t want a middle class tax cut.

AZfederalist on December 22, 2011 at 7:24 PM

this

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Flora Duh on December 22, 2011 at 7:27 PM

ask her when reid will actually bring a budget to the floor 1000+ days

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 7:32 PM

sandee on December 22, 2011 at 6:15 PM

the cost should be on their dime, nobody told them to go home as the work wasn’t done and if some rich politician’s wanna explain why they didn’t come back, that oughta go over well

smitty41 on December 22, 2011 at 6:33 PM

$4million to get them back on our dime per Fox. However did they get things done before we had airplanes?

FLconservative on December 22, 2011 at 7:33 PM

My prediction: In two months, the House passes an extension, Dingy Harry shreds it, waits until the current extension is about to expire, proposes and passes (his slobbering toady McConnell will dutifully bring along the goofy grinning RINOs) his own bill, then demands that the House pass the Senate bill as is, with no conference and if they don’t it will be on the heads of those in the House because when the current extension expires in a couple days, it will because the House Republicans don’t want a middle class tax cut.

AZfederalist on December 22, 2011 at 7:24 PM

this

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Fixed it for me to clarify what I meant. I’m sure you all knew that, but just want to be clear

AZfederalist on December 22, 2011 at 7:34 PM

ask her when reid will actually bring a budget to the floor 1000+ days

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Already did, this afternoon. Of course got *crickets* from her.

Flora Duh on December 22, 2011 at 7:37 PM

From the Senate’s “amendment”, not sure of any differences with HR3630:

SEC. 501. PERMIT FOR KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE.

(a) In General.–Except as provided in subsection (b), not later than 60 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the President, acting through the Secretary of State, shall grant a permit under Executive Order 13337 (3 U.S.C. 301 note; relating to issuance of permits with respect to certain energy-related facilities and land transportation crossings on the international boundaries of the United States) for the Keystone XL pipeline project application filed on September 19, 2008 (including amendments).

(b) Exception.–

(1) IN GENERAL.–The President shall not be required to grant the permit under subsection (a) if the President determines that the Keystone XL pipeline would not serve the national interest.

(2) REPORT.–If the President determines that the Keystone XL pipeline is not in the national interest under paragraph (1), the President shall, not later than 15 days after the date of the determination, submit to the Committee on Foreign Relations of the Senate, the Committee on Foreign Affairs of the House of Representatives, the majority leader of the Senate, the minority leader of the Senate, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, and the minority leader of the House of Representatives a report that provides a justification for determination, including consideration of economic, employment, energy security, foreign policy, trade, and environmental factors.

marinetbryant on December 22, 2011 at 7:38 PM

Flora Duh on December 22, 2011 at 7:37 PM

thanks for trying

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Bingo. Incremental change is the progressive tour de force.

The Stupid Party and it’s impatient base have no clue how to play this game.

rickyricardo on December 22, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Such has been the case for progressive social issues in the Republican Party for decades. Not really having my heart broke over the fiscal concerns that seem to be all that anyone cares about anymore.

hawkdriver on December 22, 2011 at 7:41 PM

AZfederalist on December 22, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Agreed. And I agree with everything above.

DON’T WE HAVE ANYONE ON OUR SIDE IN THE HOUSE WHO KNOW’S TIME MANAGEMENT!?!

Why does Boehner and the GOP leadership always wait till the last minute to start doing anything. They can’t do anything in a timely well thoughtout manner. It’s like going into the forth quarter and then realizing your down by two touchdowns with two minutes to go THEN DECIDING TO FEEL THE NEED TO HAVE A GAME PLAN THAT NEEDS ENACTING QUICKLY. And all your time outs are gone. And you just suck anyway.

DOESN’T ANYONE HAVE ANY MISSLES!?! I needed to say that.

Scoreboard44 on December 22, 2011 at 7:43 PM

The GOP will betray you

True_King on December 22, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Commentators and politicians of both parties keep on referring to a “payroll tax cut”. It should be called “the cut in contributions to the Social Security Trust Fund” which is already on life support. This is akin to bleeding a sick man hoping for a cure. This is extremely deceptive. Finally someone is telling the truth. Rush is right. It amazes me that seniors are not marching on Washington to stop the attack on Social Security and Medicare. Where is the AARP on this?

Amazing: Democrat President Demands Cut in Social Security Funding
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/12/20/amazing_democrat_president_demands_cut_in_social_security_funding

gettingelected on December 22, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Don’t need the whole house.

Just a quorum.

A quorum in the House of Representatives is when a majority of the Members are present. When there are no vacancies in the membership, a quorum is 218. When one or more seats are vacant, because of deaths or resignations, the quorum is reduced accordingly. Because of Members’ other duties, a quorum often is not present on the House floor. But any Member may insist that a quorum must participate in any vote that takes place in the House. If a member makes a point of order that a quorum is not present, and the Speaker agrees, a series of bells ring on the House side of the Capitol and in the House office buildings to alert Members to come to the Chamber and record their presence.

And a unanimous consent that a member objects to is a final decision. There is no appeal.

BobMbx on December 22, 2011 at 7:45 PM

DOESN’T ANYONE HAVE ANY MISSLES!?! I needed to say that.

Scoreboard44 on December 22, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Hello Boys…..I’m baaack!

BobMbx on December 22, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Surely there must be a Legislating for Dummies book they could bone up on before getting themselves in these messes.

oregano on December 22, 2011 at 6:45 PM

I’d ask them to at least take a cursory glance at ‘The Constitution for Dummies’ – http://tinyurl.com/7653wb8
That way they’d at least have a clue how they are violating their oaths of office.

rayra on December 22, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Hello Boys…..I’m baaack!

BobMbx on December 22, 2011 at 7:46 PM

excellent, a little independence day there…

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Hello Boys…..I’m baaack!

BobMbx on December 22, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Unfortunately we always seem to NOT have anyone with one last missle.
:)

Scoreboard44 on December 22, 2011 at 7:51 PM

You know, I’ve hung in there with Boehner as long as humanly possible. I’ve absolutely had it with him. If we can’t do any better than this, we deserve to lose. Bah!

petefrt on December 22, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Has everyone got there supply of Popcorn and pudding. You will need it some time around February 20th when the GOP want to take away your pizza night or something like that.

tjexcite on December 22, 2011 at 7:55 PM

All gone.
Off the radar…..for $40. a week.
They are in on the scam. Sorry…they are either in on the corruption or unbelievably dumb.
They will change nothing

Mimzey on December 22, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Actually it is less than $20 a week for an average family.

$50000 X 0.02 = $1000 / 52 = $19.23

I am not positive but I think there is a cap where it stops being a benefit. I think it is at $1500, or $75,000 income. Can’t have those rich b*st*rds (* = a) getting a benefit.

Dasher on December 22, 2011 at 7:55 PM

petefrt on December 22, 2011 at 7:54 PM

i put most of the blame on mcconnell on this one…

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 7:56 PM

You know, I’ve hung in there with Boehner as long as humanly possible. I’ve absolutely had it with him. If we can’t do any better than this, we deserve to lose. Bah!

petefrt on December 22, 2011 at 7:54 PM

He’s slow, talks like a used car salesman and doesn’t know how to start a fight. Just knows how to get pummeled and then tell the otherside

“Well, okay. I think I have given you enough of a beating. You win”.

Scoreboard44 on December 22, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Harry Reid and Barack Obama are robbing Social Security to make it look like they’re giving middle class tax cuts. They’re ripping off the elderly to buy votes. Why can’t the GOP members of Congress phrase these issues like that — and why can’t they say it all togethr, all the time, whenever they’re asked? Why do we get “It may not have been politically the smartest thing in the world” instead? Boehner’s got to go. He just does. He is incompetent. I don’t want incompetence in a president, and I don’t want it in a speaker of the House either.

Rational Thought on December 22, 2011 at 7:57 PM

rayra

then tell me how the conservatives won the day? Please? They are not conservative. They may be Republican, but not “conservative”.

MNDavenotPC on December 22, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Way to completely misconstrue what I’ve been saying. Conservatives DIDN’T.
The RINO Leadership blew it completely, let the Left frame the argument, let the let’s proganda about pizza money trump any opportunity to actually inform the public of the real issues, AND they let the Left continue to evade passing a budget. 2-1/2yrs the FedGov has been operating without one. The entire 110th congress under Pelousy. And since with Reid as obstructionist. Yet the GOP Leadership continues to allow the left to say the GOP are the obstructionists.

The GOP House should be passing a major agenda item bill EVERY WEEK. Should be passing a budget bill EVERY MONTH. SHOW the Democrat Senate and POSUS to be the obstructionists. Boehner should be giving a presser EVERY DAY with the message that ‘we are doing the serious business of this nation, while the Democrats refuse to.’ THAT should be the continuous message from all of the GOP leadership in BOTH houses, EVERY DAY.

Instead the Stupid Party gives us this farce over and over. They are Charlie Brown, repeatedly failing to kick the ball the Democrats keep setting up. THEY SHOULD BE KICKING LUCY IN THE HEAD, INSTEAD. REPEATEDLY.

rayra on December 22, 2011 at 7:58 PM

I once said ….Cut the crap and balance .
Yah very wrong .
My new saying …..
Cut Cap and Cave .
Nope , not proud of myself .
I always think they are going to get it , and they never do .
Optimism just took a holiday .

Lucano on December 22, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Actually …
Dasher on December 22, 2011 at 7:55 PM

You lost me at “Actually”. Math….heh.

HEY WAIT! THIS QUALIFIES ME TO BE SPEAKER OF DA HOUSE!

Scoreboard44 on December 22, 2011 at 8:01 PM

I don’t understand how anyone could be so stupid; Boehner needs to resign.

Puma for Life on December 22, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Because this thread will be so long, I’ll repeat this:

20,000 Pipeline Jobs @ $700 per week (net take home) = $14,000,000 = 350,000 $40 dollar Pizza Nights. So, in the two months that President Obama “may decide” to approve the Keystone Pipeline, this nation’s unemployed (mostly union workers) will be missing 2.8 million PIZZA NIGHTS!!!

Nice job Barry and Democrats—you won!

Rovin on December 22, 2011 at 8:11 PM

The Stupid Party and it’s impatient base have no clue how to play this game.

No kidding. How can the GOP be so dumb? I just don’t get it. It makes no sense at all. Can someone explain this to me.

Puma for Life on December 22, 2011 at 8:12 PM

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