Breaking: House GOP agrees to Senate’s two-month payroll-tax bill; Update: House freshmen want a floor vote; Update: “It may not have been politically the smartest thing in the world”

posted at 4:11 pm on December 22, 2011 by Allahpundit

Just across from National Journal. Our dumb national nightmare is over.

House Republicans on Thursday crumpled under the weight of White House and public pressure and have agreed to pass a two-month extension of the 2 percent payroll-tax cut, Republican and Democratic sources told National Journal…

The House will pass the two-month extension with a technical correction to the language designed to minimize difficulties businesses might experience implementing the short-term, two-month tax cut extension.

In exchange, Reid agreed to appoint several Senate Democrats to start negotiating with the House on a full-year payroll-tax holiday extension, which is right in line with McConnell’s blueprint from this morning. Updates are coming but let’s get this up since news is breaking. Two questions to mull while we wait. One: Does the “technical correction” mentioned by National Journal mean the Senate will have to return and pass the House’s version of the bill? I thought the House was under pressure to pass the Senate bill precisely because the upper chamber wasn’t going to reconvene before New Year’s. Two: If you’re going to cave, why not take Rove’s advice and wait another week, when people will be even more distracted by the holidays? Particularly strange is that this is breaking within just a few hours of The One holding a presser to demand action with middle-class taxpayers lovingly arrayed behind him. Now it looks like even more of a capitulation than it is. Merry Christmas from the GOP, champ. Exit quotation from Philip Klein: “So instead of story being ‘Obama caves on Keystone’ it’ll be ‘GOP caves on middle class tax cut’ Great work!”

Update: The House Republican conference call on the bill is set for 5 p.m. Serious question: If he can’t muster enough GOP votes to pass this thing despite overwhelming support from Democrats, is he done as Speaker?

Update: If Boehner thinks he’s going to pass this thing quietly, via unanimous consent, he’s apparently mistaken.

Freshman Rep. Sean Duffy, R- Wisc., who represents a marginal district that was held for many years by Democrat David Obey, said, “I’m calling on GOP leadership to immediately bring up the Senate’s two-month extension for an up or down vote.”

Another GOP freshman Rep. Rick Crawford of Arkansas made a similar statement.

Update: It’s a little after 5:30 ET and Boehner’s holding a presser as I write this. The takeaway thus far: “It may not have been politically the smartest thing in the world” to wage this ultimately futile war. Smart thinking, JB.

A reporter asked him if he knows whether there’ll be no objection by the GOP rank and file if he moves for unanimous consent. Answer: “I don’t know that.” Hmmmm.

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The Republican Party is run for and by idiots. Unbelievable. I didn’t want them to do what they’ve done since they already passed it, but I actually wanted them to hold on so it doesn’t look embarrassing.

Apologetic California on December 22, 2011 at 4:13 PM

YOU WHIMPERING ALCOHOLIC P_SSY!

GhoulAid on December 22, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Boehner/Reid 2012

NapaConservative on December 22, 2011 at 4:14 PM

Isn’t that great? Obama caves on Keystone and has been replaced by this?

Which idiot is going to defend the House GOP?

Apologetic California on December 22, 2011 at 4:14 PM

The Stupid Eunuch Party strikes again!

Jeddite on December 22, 2011 at 4:14 PM

How did we end up with this God awful leadership in the house? Boehner and Cantor are a joke and have been schooled over and over again.

jdsbengaltiger on December 22, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Retreat!!! RETREAT!!!!!

portlandon on December 22, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Eh, I doubt this will effect elections one way or another. Somehow I simply can’t believe a few days of bad optics would counteract three years of economic mediocrity.

WolvenOne on December 22, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Who’s that creepy-eyed doofus (in the white shirt) behind the Jug-Ear’d Unicorn Princess?

Jeddite on December 22, 2011 at 4:15 PM

If they had gotten another month out of it, win. But nope. More purity nonsense. You argue for a year long cut, then balk at two months at christmas, idiots.

Zaggs on December 22, 2011 at 4:16 PM

In exchange, Reid agreed to appoint several Senate Democrats to start negotiating with the House on a full-year payroll-tax holiday extension, which is right in line with McConnell’s blueprint from this morning.

Gee, what a surprise. Reid appoints psychotic Marxist Obama Party members just like on the “super committee”, and in two months, we get nothing.

All because “Republicans” think that the media will be nice to them if they just give in and do what Barack Obama says.

What this means is twofold: 1) McCain is beyond senile, and 2) it’s infecting every other Senate Republican.

northdallasthirty on December 22, 2011 at 4:16 PM

thanks Allahpundit. Fox is reporting the possibility of a deal with Boehner having a ‘conference call’ at 5pm with his people.

This is such a clusterfark.

CoffeeLover on December 22, 2011 at 4:16 PM

So predictable.

Where the bleeping bleep are the TEA PARTY FRESHMAN????

What the ——– did all that effort in 2010 mean?

The GOP isn’t worth a pile of possum ____!!!

PappyD61 on December 22, 2011 at 4:16 PM

LOL…hahahahaha….did we really expect anything different? This is just more proof that these two parties are the same.

MoreLiberty on December 22, 2011 at 4:16 PM

My God, have we no shame?

HopeHeFails on December 22, 2011 at 4:16 PM

why did I vote Republican in the last election? At least with a Democrat, I know that I’m getting a lying POS who will sell out his own mother, not a wimp who will loudly tell the bully that he’s not giving up his lunch money without a fight and then meekly surrender. Garbage. Garbage. Garbage.

The Spear on December 22, 2011 at 4:17 PM

And in 2 months? That stuttering clusterfark Obama will hand the drunken Boehner his ass again. Boehner’s got to go. McConnell’s got to go. Put some damn women in there. They know how to fight.

Rational Thought on December 22, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Better that it all shakes out this way. With Obama in the White House for another four years, enough of this countries citizens are going to finally have had it, and they will find a way to clean house all around.

Walter L. Newton on December 22, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Eh, I doubt this will effect elections one way or another. Somehow I simply can’t believe a few days of bad optics would counteract three years of economic mediocrity clusterfark.

WolvenOne on December 22, 2011 at 4:15 PM

FIFY

NapaConservative on December 22, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Republicans always cave so this is no news flash. Is Keystone still on the table?

formerwm on December 22, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Ah, the classic “el foldo” mauver…

mojo on December 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM

We need a new Speaker for 2012 (and a new Minority Leader in the Senate).

michaelo on December 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM

manuver.

mojo on December 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Once again Bachmann was right, unsurprisingly.

FloatingRock on December 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM

As I and many others predicted. It was a battle they should have fought. This 2mos deal is wrong for America.

Conservative4Ever on December 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM

What’s with all of the vitriol and language in comments lately? It’s like the open registration led to a direct feed of DailyKossers or something.

NoStoppingUs on December 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM

I only wish I lived in Boehner’s district so I could vote against him.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on December 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM

It looks like the beaver came early and has predicted four more years of darkness.

madmonkphotog on December 22, 2011 at 4:19 PM

Idiots! Grow a freakin pair already!

St Gaudens on December 22, 2011 at 4:19 PM

Okay, obama and his democrats wanted this, and they got it, SO, when it proves to be a complete, unworkable disaster, are they going to take FULL responsibility? I won’t hold my breath.

Pork-Chop on December 22, 2011 at 4:19 PM

This deserves the double facepalm.

I assume Keystone is off the table again.

gophergirl on December 22, 2011 at 4:20 PM

And won’t this be a fantastic topic for Obama’s SOTU address? Oh, yeah, McConnell is just handing him the election. That fat hillbilly makes me want to drive a hammer through my TV.

Rational Thought on December 22, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Primary every single g’d one of them. Every. Single. One.

These people cannot be reasoned with any longer. They’ve gone completely insane believing that their capitulation and lies will ever please the media or the spoiled narcissistic brat in the White House.

northdallasthirty on December 22, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Eh, I doubt this will effect elections one way or another. Somehow I simply can’t believe a few days of bad optics would counteract three years of economic mediocrity.

WolvenOne on December 22, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Agreed.

GeorgiaBuckeye on December 22, 2011 at 4:20 PM

I dream of the day Republicans go to the microphone and start telling the truth about democrats.

darwin on December 22, 2011 at 4:20 PM

The clowns in the Republican party have the spines of jellyfish and the integrity of Cool Whip. Pansies, the whole lot of them. They listen to stupid pundits and conniving Democrats and won’t listen at all to the American people. WILL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE PLEASE ELECT MEN WITH TESTICLES????!!!!!

PalinLover on December 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Just more proof SS isn’t a pension program and neither party is interested in fixing it before it collapses. I hope no one is foolishly counting on this program in 20-30 years…

Dawnsblood on December 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM

RINO’s. Cannot make an argument when the facts are on their side and CAVE at the first sign of trouble. We need leaders and not the wimps in there now.

JR1984 on December 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Last one out turn out the lights.

tom daschle concerned on December 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM

What’s with all of the vitriol and language in comments lately? It’s like the open registration led to a direct feed of DailyKossers or something.

NoStoppingUs on December 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Primary season heating up. Have to destroy the other candidates, ya know….

I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact that Romney can’t get above 23%

tom on December 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Do you ever get the feeling that they want to be the minority party in congress?

Snorkdoodle Whizbang on December 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Put some damn women in there. They know how to fight.

Rational Thought…Palin would not cave!

formerwm on December 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM

And I hear Bush 41 has endorsed JEB 2016…..I mean Romney!!!

No more Progressive wusses leading the GOP!!!

No more “kindler/gentler” GOP…….!!!!!!!

PappyD61 on December 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM

On the negative side, further weakness is completely predictable.

On the positive side, though, February is bonus time, so this cave-in saved me north of a grand. So, nice that the repeated failure of conservatism at least works in my favor for a change.

mikec3 on December 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Philip Klein: “So instead of story being ‘Obama caves on Keystone’ it’ll be ‘GOP caves on middle class tax cut’ Great work!”

Wrong. The story is that Obama loves tax cuts and the Rs hate them.

Obama is a sausage made from: Orwell, Machiavelli, Pinocchio and Muenchhausen.

The land deserves him fully, even for 4 more, because she’s full of whining sheep.

As to the politicians, throw them all out…but wait…who’d loot the taxpayers/producers for the moochers?

Yes, status quo
Obama, go!!!
Ho, ho, ho

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2011 at 4:22 PM

If we don’t close to engage we will be picked off one by one.

This ‘solution’ is shameful.

CorporatePiggy on December 22, 2011 at 4:22 PM

It’s all just a show.

Are you not entertained?

kbTexan on December 22, 2011 at 4:22 PM

With Republican leadership like this, who needs Democrats?

portlandon on December 22, 2011 at 4:22 PM

Update: The House Republican conference call on the bill is set for 5 p.m. Serious question: If he can’t muster enough GOP votes to pass this thing despite overwhelming support from Democrats, is he done as Speaker?

I hope so. We need someone like Paul Ryan to be Speaker.

GeorgiaBuckeye on December 22, 2011 at 4:22 PM

How did we end up with this God awful leadership in the house? Boehner and Cantor are a joke and have been schooled over and over again.

jdsbengaltiger on December 22, 2011 at 4:15 PM

In defense of the House (and I’m not happy with the House leadership either), it was the Senate who caved that set up this debacle.

Instead of fighting for a full year, they agreed with this two-month crap that causes more headaches for businesses. (Oh, and it’s the small businesses that will be hurt the most, proportionally by this for the simple reason that small businesses can’t disoperse the cost of stupid governmental meddling over a large workforce.)

We need to clean out the Senate.

makattak on December 22, 2011 at 4:22 PM

The House Republican conference call on the bill is set for 5 p.m. Serious question: If he can’t muster enough GOP votes to pass this thing despite overwhelming support from Democrats, is he done as Speaker?

YES.

Oh, please, please, please, let him go into that call and have his head taken off.

Can you imagine the sh*t explosion that would come down if that call ended with a no-confidence vote and Boehner being kicked to the curb in favor of Paul Ryan?

northdallasthirty on December 22, 2011 at 4:23 PM

#40dollars, ie. not quite a tank of gas. Two months. @#$% idiots.

ElectricPhase on December 22, 2011 at 4:23 PM

“This deserves the double facepalm.

I assume Keystone is off the table again.

gophergirl on December 22, 2011 at 4:20 PM”

Beat me to it.

Ahhhh. Just shoot me.

Tenwheeler on December 22, 2011 at 4:23 PM

Update: The House Republican conference call on the bill is set for 5 p.m. Serious question: If he can’t muster enough GOP votes to pass this thing despite overwhelming support from Democrats, is he done as Speaker?

Don’t tease us like that, Allah. It’s just not fair right before Christmas.

makattak on December 22, 2011 at 4:24 PM

Update: The House Republican conference call on the bill is set for 5 p.m. Serious question: If he can’t muster enough GOP votes to pass this thing despite overwhelming support from Democrats, is he done as Speaker?

Yes. I expect a tearful goodbye speech, followed by a tearful gavel ceremony, and a tearful return to being a regular congressman.

portlandon on December 22, 2011 at 4:24 PM

What’s with all of the vitriol and language in comments lately? It’s like the open registration led to a direct feed of DailyKossers or something.

NoStoppingUs on December 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM

oh golly gee, willy wonkers, those darn republicans caved again.

is that better?

GhoulAid on December 22, 2011 at 4:24 PM

is he done as Speaker?

I don’t know, but I’ll keep it in prayer.

The Rogue Tomato on December 22, 2011 at 4:24 PM

McConnell did good ..John Boehner not so much..:)

Dire Straits on December 22, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Taking out Boehner and putting in Allen West would work for me.

HopeHeFails on December 22, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Bueller?

Bueller?

Keystone?

Did we at least the 60 day Keystone up or down?

adplusone on December 22, 2011 at 4:25 PM

I don’t know, but I’ll keep it in prayer.

The Rogue Tomato on December 22, 2011 at 4:24 PM

LOL..That was funny..:)

Dire Straits on December 22, 2011 at 4:25 PM

The Republicans from the start handle this wrong.They should have come out weeks ago screaming to the top of their lungs.The dems and Obama are trying to destroy Social Security for our senors. This payroll tax is the only funding for S.S. and if the dems and Obama mess with it senors will have to eat dog food and worse yet most won,t even have enough money to buy a new can opener.It,s about time that the speaker and his spineless members turn the table on Obama and his band of dogooders who love to spend other people money.

logman1 on December 22, 2011 at 4:26 PM

McConnell:
“My friends, my friends…..”

Tenwheeler on December 22, 2011 at 4:26 PM

McConnell did good ..John Boehner not so much..:)

Dire Straits on December 22, 2011 at 4:25 PM

NO, McConnell is an aristocratic azz who needs to be thrown out.

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2011 at 4:26 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsYJyVEUaC4

HerneTheHunter on December 22, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Not much to say other than Bachmann or Ryan for Speaker of the House and Rubio for Senate Majority Leader if we can get it. Boehner and McConnell are not with us. We need people with instictive core principles for a change.

DanMan on December 22, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Hang on! Public opinion is changing!

Get out there and blast the Democrats!

Speakup on December 22, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Yes. I expect a tearful goodbye speech, followed by a tearful gavel ceremony, and a tearful return to being a regular congressman.

portlandon on December 22, 2011 at 4:24 PM

Gonna need a quick stop at the spray-on tanning salon between step 2 and step 3.

Jeddite on December 22, 2011 at 4:27 PM

So. When the dems say short term is bad (in the instance of the debt ceiling contretemps) the repubs agree. In this case short term is agreed to without cavil (in the senate, at least). Never mind the presidential candidates, there isn’t an actual leader in the entire party.

wolfsDad on December 22, 2011 at 4:27 PM

look at the bright side, this was a fight over tax cuts.

rob verdi on December 22, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Boehner should step down either way; he has totally lost too much respect from people on both sides.

michaelo on December 22, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Do you know who is running for the House and Senate in your districts?
If not, you should find out. I wouldn’t pay a whole lot of attention to the POTUS contest until February of next year after the first of the primaries.

The only way we’re going to win this is to replace those in office now. We need a repeat of 2010.

Kini on December 22, 2011 at 4:28 PM

You guys are just too involved in this kind of stuff sometimes.

A week from now, no one will care.

By November it will be as relevant to the voters as the identity of the National League representative in the 1925 World Series.

PackerBronco on December 22, 2011 at 4:28 PM

I hope so. We need someone like Paul Ryan to be Speaker.

GeorgiaBuckeye on December 22, 2011 at 4:22 PM

Yeah maybe he can beg for another TARP and auto bailout.

We need an Allen West.

tetriskid on December 22, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Nevermind Reid not bringing up the house bill

Man, I really despise the senate

Cave

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Can the House Reps hold a vote of no confidence in Boehner? Can he be replaced before the next election?

The only good news about this…how many people are paying close attention to this the last weekend before Chrostmas?

herm2416 on December 22, 2011 at 4:28 PM

The political elite ruling class sure likes their little dramas…

… don’t they.

And you thought your vote actually matters…

/

Seven Percent Solution on December 22, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Stand your ground GOP House!

SouthernGent on December 22, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Bachmann for speaker.

LtT26 on December 22, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Good grief!!!!!

MotherRedDog on December 22, 2011 at 4:29 PM

Two more things then I’m going to go find an alcoholic beverage.

1.McConnell and Boehner should have to change places for six months and live in the dog houses the other one built.

2. Elections have consequences. Seniors vote when they are a) scared, and b) PISSED.

There are lots of demographics about who votes and who might, but I can almost guarantee that 2012 will be the Senior/Boomer election.

We will see what we will see.

Tenwheeler on December 22, 2011 at 4:30 PM

If he can’t muster enough GOP votes to pass this thing despite overwhelming support from Democrats, is he done as Speaker?

Time to clean the House!

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2011 at 4:30 PM

It’s quiet obvious that the GOP popularity will plunge after this. Mostly coming from the Republicans. Boehner should not cave.

Apologetic California on December 22, 2011 at 4:30 PM

If he can’t muster enough GOP votes to pass this thing despite overwhelming support from Democrats, is he done as Speaker?

If so, vote “no.”

kunegetikos on December 22, 2011 at 4:31 PM

I hope he doesn’t have the votes. Today Obama gave a speech surrounded by losers who can’t live without that $40.00 a pay period. How utterly ridiculous is that? I can’t believe after the attack he made on the House members that they would ever agree to another “fake” committee.Just disgusting!

sandee on December 22, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Breaking News:

House GOP reportedly caves on payroll tax cut

Top of Yahoo

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Tenwheeler on December 22, 2011 at 4:30 PM

you got that right

DanMan on December 22, 2011 at 4:33 PM

And Stupid Party doubles down on the stupid.

rbj on December 22, 2011 at 4:33 PM

“By November it will be as relevant to the voters as the identity of the National League representative in the 1925 World Series.

PackerBronco on December 22, 2011 at 4:28 PM”

Pittsburg Pirates.

Seniors and Boomers have long memories, and get awful tired after a while of being continually pissed down the neck and told it’s just rain.

Tenwheeler on December 22, 2011 at 4:34 PM

madmonkphotog on December 22, 2011 at 4:19 PM

cripe…

:(

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 4:34 PM

Time for conservatives to abandon the GOP. It’s clear that there is no hope in either party.

nobar on December 22, 2011 at 4:35 PM

Tea Party house members need to show up, vote their conscience with conviction and expose the losers. We’ll take it from there.

DanMan on December 22, 2011 at 4:35 PM

Obama’s pizza run & shopping for dog treats Opps just destroyed the GOP.

Brilliance.

portlandon on December 22, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Right after Tina explains things so clearly, along comes Mr. Pundit to destroy all hope. I’m just thankful we have Allahpundit around to help get us acclimated to another 4 years of Obama. Without his help, I don’t think I could make the adjustment, but I’m slowly coming around to accept a new future for a New America.

There is nothing more demoralizing than false hope, especially at Christmas; you’re hoping for a puppy or a pony, and you get hand me down underwear. Better to be prepared for what yer gonna git.

Skandia Recluse on December 22, 2011 at 4:36 PM

It’s all just a show.

Are you not entertained?

kbTexan on December 22, 2011 at 4:22 PM

Ah. Gladiator. One of my all time favorites. Bread and circuses for the unwashed masses. I don’t know, with all the incredible government waste as pointed out by Coburn this seems so insignificant.

Examples of wasteful spending highlighted in “Wastebook 2011” include:

• $75,000 to promote awareness about the role Michigan plays in producing Christmas trees & poinsettias.

• $15.3 million for one of the infamous Bridges to Nowhere in Alaska.

• $113,227 for video game preservation center in New York.

• $550,000 for a documentary about how rock music contributed to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

• $48,700 for 2nd annual Hawaii Chocolate Festival, to promote Hawaii’s chocolate industry.

• $350,000 to support an International Art Exhibition in Venice, Italy.

• $10 million for a remake of “Sesame Street” for Pakistan.

• $35 million allocated for political party conventions in 2012.

• $765,828 to subsidize “pancakes for yuppies” in the nation’s capital.

• $764,825 to study how college students use mobile devices for social networking.

Read the full report: here

FLconservative on December 22, 2011 at 4:36 PM

I hope he doesn’t have the votes.

sandee on December 22, 2011 at 4:32 PM

i’m leaning that way too..

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 4:36 PM

The House Tea Party Members better stick it to Boehner in a big way!!!

katy on December 22, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Maybe the message should be “Pick better fights ….”

For all the whining (and it is whining) above about the House GOP’s lack of guts, etc., they wouldn’t be doing this if they didn’t believe they were “losing” the political battle.


Translation: there aren’t enough people who feel like you folks do to make this a fight worth continuing!!!!

This is an “electorate” problem – like it or not, we have to go to war with the electorate we have, not the electorate we’d like to have.

You know the current situation is untenable … I know the current situation is untenable … I’m pretty sure the House GOP knows the current situation is untenable … shoot, I’m sure the Democrats know the current situation is untenable too.

Problem is, until there’s a political payoff in acknowledging and acting upon the belief that the current situation is untenable, there won’t be a majority in Washington for acting upon that belief.

I can’t vouch personally for every quote, but …

“People deserve the government they get, and they deserve to get it good and hard.”

H.L. Mencken

“In democracy you get the goverment you deserve. Alternately you deserve the government you got.”

Josef Heller

“Everything said and done, at the end of the day, we get the government we deserve and deserve the government we get.”

P. Ramakrishnan

“In Russia, it is a common saying that every people deserve the government they choose.”

Vladimir Viardo

I recall what a British prime minister said years ago, “In a democracy you get the government you deserve and you deserve the government you get.”

Duane W. Compton

The “answer” to the current situation is to admit we don’t have the horses & go recruit more folks to our viewpoint.

BD57 on December 22, 2011 at 4:38 PM

Breaking News: Mitt Romney issues a statement about Pay-roll Tax debate in Washington. “I don’t think Presidential candidates should be taking sides or giving statements about this.”

portlandon on December 22, 2011 at 4:38 PM

Hey, I’ve got an idea. If they want to have a party convention in 2012, how abou they pay for it?

Tenwheeler on December 22, 2011 at 4:38 PM

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