Breaking: House GOP agrees to Senate’s two-month payroll-tax bill; Update: House freshmen want a floor vote; Update: “It may not have been politically the smartest thing in the world”

posted at 4:11 pm on December 22, 2011 by Allahpundit

Just across from National Journal. Our dumb national nightmare is over.

House Republicans on Thursday crumpled under the weight of White House and public pressure and have agreed to pass a two-month extension of the 2 percent payroll-tax cut, Republican and Democratic sources told National Journal…

The House will pass the two-month extension with a technical correction to the language designed to minimize difficulties businesses might experience implementing the short-term, two-month tax cut extension.

In exchange, Reid agreed to appoint several Senate Democrats to start negotiating with the House on a full-year payroll-tax holiday extension, which is right in line with McConnell’s blueprint from this morning. Updates are coming but let’s get this up since news is breaking. Two questions to mull while we wait. One: Does the “technical correction” mentioned by National Journal mean the Senate will have to return and pass the House’s version of the bill? I thought the House was under pressure to pass the Senate bill precisely because the upper chamber wasn’t going to reconvene before New Year’s. Two: If you’re going to cave, why not take Rove’s advice and wait another week, when people will be even more distracted by the holidays? Particularly strange is that this is breaking within just a few hours of The One holding a presser to demand action with middle-class taxpayers lovingly arrayed behind him. Now it looks like even more of a capitulation than it is. Merry Christmas from the GOP, champ. Exit quotation from Philip Klein: “So instead of story being ‘Obama caves on Keystone’ it’ll be ‘GOP caves on middle class tax cut’ Great work!”

Update: The House Republican conference call on the bill is set for 5 p.m. Serious question: If he can’t muster enough GOP votes to pass this thing despite overwhelming support from Democrats, is he done as Speaker?

Update: If Boehner thinks he’s going to pass this thing quietly, via unanimous consent, he’s apparently mistaken.

Freshman Rep. Sean Duffy, R- Wisc., who represents a marginal district that was held for many years by Democrat David Obey, said, “I’m calling on GOP leadership to immediately bring up the Senate’s two-month extension for an up or down vote.”

Another GOP freshman Rep. Rick Crawford of Arkansas made a similar statement.

Update: It’s a little after 5:30 ET and Boehner’s holding a presser as I write this. The takeaway thus far: “It may not have been politically the smartest thing in the world” to wage this ultimately futile war. Smart thinking, JB.

A reporter asked him if he knows whether there’ll be no objection by the GOP rank and file if he moves for unanimous consent. Answer: “I don’t know that.” Hmmmm.

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rayra

You could not have said any of what you did better than me. I am sorry if you misunderstood what I typed earlier. I hate what has happened. I am sick of what we have as representatives right now. I wish you to know that I am stepping into the maelstrom here in Minnesota to better our stance as true conservatives.

MNDavenotPC on December 22, 2011 at 8:16 PM

petefrt on December 22, 2011 at 7:54 PM

i put most of the blame on mcconnell on this one…

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 7:56 PM

Yeah, who cares which one is the more inept. I am so sick of being consistently outmaneuvered by these leftists, I could reject this perpetual accommodation by…

Pushing the suicide button with my vote. Screw it man, if we can’t do any better than this, then let’s bring this boil to a head. I will do my level best not to vote for a third party, no matter how bad it gets. But the way it looks now, there are no guarantees.

petefrt on December 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM

Put some damn women in there. They know how to fight.

Rational Thought on December 22, 2011 at 4:17 PM
We need a new Speaker for 2012 (and a new Minority Leader in the Senate).

michaelo on December 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM
Marsha Blackburn for Speaker. Kelly Ayotte for Minority Leader.

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Make room for ‘crazy eyes’ in there, somewhere!

KOOLAID2 on December 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM

All this for $20 to $40 a month per household ($40 x 2 months = $80 max), while everyones fighting over this measly sum what the hell is going on behind the curtain, we have a 15 trillion dollar debt and our elected officals are squabbling over THIS. As far as the keystone pipeline goes, it is now the football that nancy keeps pulling away from charlie brown, 60 days from now the GOP will be flat on there a$$ saying to Bozo “you said you act on keystone if we went along with the two month extension”, what a fuster cluck!

doublee on December 22, 2011 at 8:24 PM

Conservatives have had and will continue to have *no* representation. Elections simply don’t matter anymore.

Call me when the shooting starts.

Midas on December 22, 2011 at 8:30 PM

About time they pulled their heads out of their rear ends. That was the stupidest move they could possibly have made to not pass the Senate bill. They had next spring handed to them on a silver platter and instead, they now look like idiots.

Ok, lets get this one past us and look forward and try not to make the same stupid mistake again.

crosspatch on December 22, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Pushing the suicide button with my vote. Screw it man, if we can’t do any better than this, then let’s bring this boil to a head. I will do my level best not to vote for a third party, no matter how bad it gets. But the way it looks now, there are no guarantees.

petefrt on December 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM

Vote for Obama.

I’m so mad right now, I’ll contemplate it. We apparently *do* have to destroy the country in order to rebuild it – the ‘try to fix it and elect some folks that will work in that direction’ process is an utter failure.

Midas on December 22, 2011 at 8:32 PM

petefrt on December 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM

hang in there

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 8:33 PM

Pushing the suicide button with my vote. Screw it man, if we can’t do any better than this, then let’s bring this boil to a head. I will do my level best not to vote for a third party, no matter how bad it gets. But the way it looks now, there are no guarantees.

petefrt on December 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM

Yes, cut your nose off to spite your face. Four more years of Obama and it’s not going to matter.
But, please, push the suicide button for the children and grandchildren of fellow HA posters. Do it.
We have some great choices…yes, Bachmann and Santorum and Perry have NO CHANCE IN HELL, but Romney is a viable candidate. He can scoop those precious independents right out of Obama’s coffers.

RovesChins on December 22, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Vote them all out! What for? We did that! They won’t understand why!
I would like to kick them in the ba11s first!
Then, at least they might think… “what was that for?”…(they have no clue!) I want them grasping, in that ‘certain area’…as they go on to lobby the folks that replaced them!

KOOLAID2 on December 22, 2011 at 8:37 PM

ATTENTION reactionaries…..THE GOP WON

The got Keystone , no increase in taxes

The GOP normal stance would be a shorter tax holiday. They only took the longer stance to insure they got the important stuff.

The GOP is letting the news media play like it’s a win for the Democrats now, so the Democrats wouldn’t hold up the legistlaton and take “credit” for losing.

LeeSeneca on December 22, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Wow, you’re smoking the hard stuff tonight.

Midas on December 22, 2011 at 8:39 PM

McConnell hung Boehner out to dry, personally, I would like to see them both pushed aside for younger blood. This entire thing is a joke, is SS broke or isn’t it broke??? yet we want to drain it further…… stupid is as stupid does.

Rapunzel on December 22, 2011 at 7:20 PM

+111!!!!!!1!1eleventy!

cane_loader on December 22, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Rapunzel on December 22, 2011 at 7:20 PM

I like you. You think straight!

cane_loader on December 22, 2011 at 8:41 PM

FIRST!

Not that it matters anymore as this is about the only place an American can expect to be able to claim first in anything these days. I hate politicians, all of them.

Bishop on December 22, 2011 at 8:42 PM

On the bright side, it’s good to see Democrats agreeing with the right that tax relief is a positive thing for the middle class, the economy the individual.

It only too them how many decades to admit it?

Good Lt on December 22, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Yes, cut your nose off to spite your face. Four more years of Obama and it’s not going to matter.
But, please, push the suicide button for the children and grandchildren of fellow HA posters. Do it.
We have some great choices…yes, Bachmann and Santorum and Perry have NO CHANCE IN HELL, but Romney is a viable candidate. He can scoop those precious independents right out of Obama’s coffers.

RovesChins on December 22, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Unfortunately, your path is simply putting of the inevitable until our kids have to deal with it directly. We can let Obama and the Dems destroy the country quicker, or we can struggle and let the Repubs destroy it slightly slower – but make no mistake, its on a path to destruction.

Right now I’d rather see it happen sooner while *I* can deal with it than to put it off and make my kids be responsible for dealing with it. Your presumption is that it can be avoided entirely – all evidence to the contrary, of course.

Midas on December 22, 2011 at 8:44 PM

On the bright side, it’s good to see Democrats agreeing with the right that tax relief is a positive thing for the middle class, the economy the individual.

It only too them how many decades to admit it?

Good Lt on December 22, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Kind of like watching the Soviets and ChiComs cave to a market economy, isn’t it?

cane_loader on December 22, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Frist and Hastert got themselves fired because the voters didn’t see much difference between them and the Dims.

Boner and McConnell give the impression that when it boils down to taking a stand or taking vacation…. vacation will win out every time.

viking01 on December 22, 2011 at 9:00 PM

YOU WHIMPERING ALCOHOLIC P_SSY!

GhoulAid on December 22, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Do you really think name calling like that adds anything to the conversation? If that’s the case, then go post at DailyKos. Or go back to the sandbox with the other 12 year olds who just found out about the internet.

NoStoppingUs on December 22, 2011 at 9:02 PM

I was listening to John King on CNN XM Radio and my congressman, Mike Kelly was pis$ed about this. He’s one of our freshmen endorsed by Palin and he is kicking butt on the Volt issue because he was (or still is) a car dealership owner. I pulled over to the parking lot and he could barely speak because JB didn’t allow any questions, comments, anything!

He’s ticked off that he will come home and look at his kids and grandkids and was very determined he said, to keep up the fight that we sent him to do for us. Gotta find that clip-and send him an email commending him for it. I share his sentiments, Boehner railroaded everybody.

Wonder what was the bribe-that is the only thing that makes sense to me. Now I will go back and read your comments the best I can. I despise holiday shopping. I am tired!

ProudPalinFan on December 22, 2011 at 9:11 PM

Now you giys understand why I can support guys we have running for POtUS? Mittens supporters, this is exactly what your going to get from mittens in the name of reaching across the aisle.

watertown on December 22, 2011 at 9:16 PM

Now you giys understand why I can support guys we have running for POtUS? Mittens supporters, this is exactly what your going to get from mittens in the name of reaching across the aisle.

watertown on December 22, 2011 at 9:16 PM

guys

watertown on December 22, 2011 at 9:16 PM

So lets make lemonade out of lemons.

The GOP House, led by Ryan, should come back with a bill to make the payroll tax cut permanent by converting the 2% “cut” into individual retirement accounts, owned by the taxpayer. (Pretty similar to what Bush proposed for younger workers.) The democrats have decoupled the funding mechanism of social security and the actual social security program. This is huge. The GOP can change the “optics” of the debate. Democrats are for short term gimmicks that do nothing but jeopardize social security. Republicans are about solving problems, putting individuals in charge of their own finances without waiting for edicts from Washington DC.

Call your representative over the Christmas break.

monalisa on December 22, 2011 at 9:18 PM

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right!

GFW on December 22, 2011 at 9:20 PM

Why did the Dems support this as a tax cut instead of real tax cuts since all this is doing is defunding the Social Security “trust fund” [that never existed]?

Simple, because when you have 47% of all income earners no longer paying income taxes and your base is that 47%, the only thing you have left is the payroll tax, i.e. the Social Security contribution. They could no longer get support for providing more “earned income credits”, i.e. reverse income tax where low income people get a check from the government instead of paying to the government, with a new tax cut so they had to come up with a new gimmick. Now that the Senate has made the cut regressive (i.e, if you make more, you get less of a break), the Dems now have a new way of pandering to their low-income base.

AZfederalist on December 22, 2011 at 9:30 PM

YOU WHIMPERING ALCOHOLIC P_SSY!

GhoulAid on December 22, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Do you really think name calling like that adds anything to the conversation? If that’s the case, then go post at DailyKos. Or go back to the sandbox with the other 12 year olds who just found out about the internet.

NoStoppingUs on December 22, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Well, actually I think GhoulAid has it just about right.

When you’ve bled to make 2010 happen only to discover that the new boss is the same as the old boss, inarticulate rage is not only excusable. It’s highly appropriate.

ElectricPhase on December 22, 2011 at 9:36 PM

Great job by the weeper of the house and the appeaser of the senate. Odumbo and Reid eat their lunch yet again. The GOP is a bunch of soulless, gutless, appeasing RINO’s and every one of them need to be kicked out on their pompous, elitist, weasly, lying, cheating asses. You effing sob’s are so out of touch with the people in this country, it’s no wonder the dems beat you with a stick.

I would have bet money this would happen, and I firmly believe the GOP will reelect that POS in the WH next year…. just watch.

ultracon on December 22, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Okay, I’m going to jump into the mix over this topic. Some of you will fight what I’m about to say, but take some time and think about it first. It is the one explanation that explains so much about our so called representatives.
I believe we need to STOP thinking of these people in terms of democrats and/or republicans and realize that many of them are simply PROGRESSIVES. Yes, I mean Boehner and McConnell too. And, probably alot more of them too. That would explain why almost everytime Boehner fights for us, he loses. I really believe it’s on purpose. He and McConnell work like a tag-team. And they get to pretend to be the victims of those nasty Democrats. Nope, I’m not buying into that scenerio any longer. This happens over and over again, too often to be accidental. Seems like a prime example of ends justifies the means. They want the same thing Obama and the dems want but can’t afford to lose their republican voters. Therefore, act (and that’s exactly what it is, an act) like a victim and play for sympathy. B.S. No other explanation works as well as this. These men are not stupid and they know what their actions, or inaction, will accomplish. This is deliberate. And, we’re all being played. I intend to vote out each and every one of these fakes. Time is too short for this country to try to sort them out. Just throw them all out.

MONACO1121 on December 22, 2011 at 9:44 PM

HOLY F!
Why not just cede all power in Washington over to the Democrats, permanently?!?!!?!

I can’t think of suckier news, just before Christmas!!

Thanks a ton, Republicans! You suck!!!

ToddonCapeCod on December 22, 2011 at 9:45 PM

Bohner

This MothrFKR is trying to destroy the conservative tea party movement. He caves on the budget and everything else that we have the ground to smash O on and then he chooses this to make a stand?

Why not wait until after the holidays? Then we can refight the welfare excuse me “unemployment insurance”. Same time up the any on SS by making (scratch that compromising by giving the Dems) the SS tax break permanent, then roll into setting the stage for making entitlement reform. Which then makes clear cutting the non-REQUIRED parts of the gov open to slashing or “we must take if from the seniors and SS ohhh the teeth knashing blah blah”. I would love to see a O or any Dem on TV explaining why we should keep art, welfare, or this or that give away/wasted nice but not required X program even thou such will have to come directly from the limited funds for SS. AHHHHHH

No this idiot chooses to make the fight now in the holidays were we have no chance and then on top of that rolls everyone up only to CAVE WTF.

Bohner MUST go if Pence wont step up go to the next in line rock rib. Why they call the Repubs the stupid party AHHHHH

C-Low on December 22, 2011 at 9:52 PM

$1000 apiece
x
~100 Million workers (half the country, minus U3 unemployment)
=
$100 Billion.

A paltry 100 Billion. While these congressional, executive and media jerkoffs flapped their gums about this, the National Debt soars at over $4 Billion per day. A mere four weeks of this BS show costs more.

And all that ignores that the tax is meant to reap money for Social Security. ~~$100 Billion doesn’t even begin to come close to the commitments made in the name of that ponzi scheme.

rayra on December 22, 2011 at 10:02 PM

If anyone believes Obama is going to cave on this pipeline bill, they’re out of their mind. We all know the significance of the 2 month continuation and we all know the pipeline will be out of it. If the House is smart (a really tough call) they’ll pass a jobs bill with the pipeline in it and continue to send it up to Reid until they get a vote on it.

The Senate Republicans owe the House republicans big time, and McConnell should deliver or get voted down as leader.

bflat879 on December 22, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Mother of God, all that weak fool Boehner had to do was hold the line and make the senate pass the year log bill the house passed first, but instead he folded like a cheap table. Maybe he hopes Odumbo will invite him out for golf again.

Darth Tanis on December 22, 2011 at 10:36 PM

Once again, Boehner proves that he’s a RINO, he’s a blithering incompetent when it comes to negotiations, he has no plan to win, and is totally unqualified for a leadership position!!!

He would probably lose badly playing poker with a four year old child.

landlines on December 22, 2011 at 10:46 PM

The GOP is a FAILURE.

RockyJ. on December 22, 2011 at 11:03 PM

According to AB Stoddard today, this was a lesson that Boehner had to allow the tea party faction to learn the hard way. IOW, they are not in control of the house, much less the senate, so all their rebellion against Boehner was futile. We shall see.

PattyJ on December 22, 2011 at 11:12 PM

According to AB Stoddard today, this was a lesson that Boehner had to allow the tea party faction to learn the hard way. IOW, they are not in control of the house, much less the senate, so all their rebellion against Boehner was futile. We shall see.

PattyJ on December 22, 2011 at 11:12 PM

He’s the one who needs to learn a hard lesson. The base does not look like Mrs. Boehner.

ElectricPhase on December 22, 2011 at 11:20 PM

Why do these tools not understand that they could have loudly pointed out that Obama was happily defunding Social Security? And that they could have won the argument in the eyes of the public?

applebutter on December 22, 2011 at 11:28 PM

YOU WHIMPERING ALCOHOLIC P_SSY!

GhoulAid on December 22, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Do you really think name calling like that adds anything to the conversation? If that’s the case, then go post at DailyKos. Or go back to the sandbox with the other 12 year olds who just found out about the internet.

NoStoppingUs on December 22, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Lighten up, Francis.

I concur with the sentiment; I’m raging angry right now, and sometimes things are beyond simple cordiality in terms of adequately expressing them. Our ‘representatives’ need to hear this precise style of expression *more*, not less. They need desperately to *know* how f@#$ing pissed off we are, and they damn well need to start feeling a bit of fear about it.

Midas on December 22, 2011 at 11:31 PM

Boehner must simply resign immediately. Let someone else try to run the place; they can’t possibly do any worse.

Midas on December 22, 2011 at 11:46 PM

I’m sooooo done with Boner. Every time there is excitement he goes limp.

Semiteconservative on December 22, 2011 at 11:49 PM

McConnell and Blunt must go.

besser tot als rot on December 23, 2011 at 12:00 AM

According to AB Stoddard today, this was a lesson that Boehner had to allow the tea party faction to learn the hard way. IOW, they are not in control of the house, much less the senate, so all their rebellion against Boehner was futile. We shall see.

PattyJ on December 22, 2011 at 11:12 PM

Screw that. McConnell needs to learn a lesson. But he won’t. He’s too stupid.

besser tot als rot on December 23, 2011 at 12:01 AM

Every one in congress that votes for this P.O.S. tax “cut” needs to be kicked the F out next November if they’re up for election. If they’re not, they need to be labeled a RINO and booted out at the very next opportunity.

Boener and McConnell must go! I’m so sick of this RINO GOP Establishment crap I could kick a kitten. Every one of these people need to be run against and replaced with true conservatives.

I swear the Repubicans and RINOs wouldn’t know a political win if it sat on their faces and took a dump. Every establishment RINO in Washington needs to go!

Meople on December 23, 2011 at 12:12 AM

This is a self-inflicted, humiliating, totally unnecessary wound. Outmaneuvered by the goon squad of a two-bit community organizer.

As I recall, a lot of us were not real happy with the selection of McConnel/Boehner leadership in the first place, but we agreed to give them a go at it.

Well, as far as I’m concerned, the ‘go at it’ is over. On net, they have failed. Instead of strong leadership, they have given us more of the same ole go-along-to-get-along. Time’s up. It’s time for new blood.

petefrt on December 23, 2011 at 12:34 AM

Really??? The GOP/Boehner couldn’t fight off the “tax cut” stigmatism that media was touting?

The money (the huge amount of $20 a week) was going to make the economy come screaming back! Oh wait, that’s what it was “supposed” to do last year… /sarc

And the GOP wants more of our money for support……freaking TOOLS!

mr_west on December 23, 2011 at 12:45 AM

Prediction: Not one damned “conservative” congressman will ask Boehner to step down.

Honorable conservatives would have already gathered a caucus to fight the leadership of the GOP in Congress. That it hasn’t happened is the real failure of the Tea Party. The people we elected don’t have the vision to fight the GOP liars in charge of the Party.

We voters are no better than they are. We’re looking to a party of thieves and cowards to save our country. The next election is pointless unless the candidate promises to dismantle the GOP top to bottom. What chance? Close to none.

Until some strong people step away from the GOP and start a new party we’ll have no one on our side.

rcl on December 23, 2011 at 12:49 AM

Maybe the message should be “Pick better fights ….”

For all the whining (and it is whining) above about the House GOP’s lack of guts, etc., they wouldn’t be doing this if they didn’t believe they were “losing” the political battle.

Translation: there aren’t enough people who feel like you folks do to make this a fight worth continuing!!!!

So, there aren’t enough people who would rather their taxes go up in 12 months instead of 2?

xblade on December 23, 2011 at 12:55 AM

I’ll say it again. Boehner and McConnell are not stupid or fools. They are working WITH and FOR Obama. Progressives all !!
They’re screwing us over and not even offering us any Vaseline. Remember back to all the failures Boehner has had and view it with this in the forfront of your mind…..suddenly, it all makes sense. All the closed door meetings, golf games and sucking up that goes on is clear when viewed thru this lense. They are beyond Rino’s…..and they believe we’re dumb enough to buy into the show and tears they put on for our benefit. Who was the commenter that always said “the GOP will betray you”? Good Lord, is that ever the truth.

MONACO1121 on December 23, 2011 at 1:15 AM

congratulations GOP you just got played like a fine violin, better think of what you will do in 2 months, then 2 more months right up till the elections. you just screwed your changes to unseat him.

RonK on December 23, 2011 at 2:06 AM

Don’t despair Republicans! When Obama is thrown out of office we can repeal this bill and get back to what is most important to us and that is aiding America’s one percent! America don’t need no stinking middle class!

richardporter on December 23, 2011 at 5:27 AM

I’m surprised it took them that long to cave! We need a new party, like maybe some Republicans?

flytier on December 23, 2011 at 6:43 AM

This is the trap they fell into agreeing to this Three Card Monty trick cutting “taxes” to S.S. There was no way to win this. Depending on how they want to demagogue this, Libs could claim Republicans were both in favor raising taxes and in favor of gutting Social Security. Boehner and the Boys lose again.

Vitruvianman on December 23, 2011 at 8:12 AM

“So lets make lemonade out of lemons.

The GOP House, led by Ryan, should come back with a bill to make the payroll tax cut permanent by converting the 2% “cut” into individual retirement accounts, owned by the taxpayer. (Pretty similar to what Bush proposed for younger workers.) The democrats have decoupled the funding mechanism of social security and the actual social security program. This is huge. The GOP can change the “optics” of the debate. Democrats are for short term gimmicks that do nothing but jeopardize social security. Republicans are about solving problems, putting individuals in charge of their own finances without waiting for edicts from Washington DC.

Call your representative over the Christmas break.

monalisa on December 22, 2011 at 9:18 PM”

Except no one knows where to invest in this economy.

pc on December 23, 2011 at 8:13 AM

These Republican dolts don’t simply shoot themselves in their collective feet . . . they blow their entire freaking legs off. Somebody please wake up these idiots before they lose it all.

rplat on December 23, 2011 at 8:31 AM

Don’t despair Republicans! When Obama is thrown out of office we can repeal this bill and get back to what is most important to us and that is aiding America’s one percent! America don’t need no stinking middle class!

richardporter on December 23, 2011 at 5:27 AM

It’s your party that hates the middle class, Richard. If it was up to your president, our country would be divided into the Politboro and the Proletariat.

By the way, you registered for the wrong website. dkos is down the street, on the Left, in the alley, down in the gutter.

kingsjester on December 23, 2011 at 8:35 AM

My take.

kingsjester on December 23, 2011 at 8:37 AM

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right!

GFW on December 22, 2011 at 9:20 PM

Only too true…sad, but true….

ProfShadow on December 23, 2011 at 8:37 AM

Boehner needed to pull a “Reid” and have adjourned after they sent the bill to the Senate.

ProfShadow on December 23, 2011 at 8:43 AM

The double cross was in before the first vote was cast. The tea party reps are being taught a lesson by the elite ruling class. This is their party town and you’ll all be gone after the next election. Boehner claimed to have a one year extension’deal’ with the dear leader which then made a U turn in the senate to what they passed. McConnell sold the House repubs out. Thanks for the early Christmas present. Boehner’s got to go and he can take Mitch with him. I hope they all have a sucky holiday.

Kissmygrits on December 23, 2011 at 9:23 AM

Are there no adults left in Washington? Can anyone recall the last time a budget was actually passed? How about a budget that did not mortgage our grandchildrens’ lives?

Vote them all out.

Over50 on December 23, 2011 at 9:37 AM

First, I highly compliment the commenters here on this issue, something I have never done before on HA

I do not make a specific substantive comment on the issue of the 2 month tax cut or whatever TF it is because it will not help salvage and save America and as whatever TF it is it is chickenshit.

I do repost a related comment I made on Facebook where my Profile Page is in the same name as here John W Stevenson (haha! be sure you get the right one, I have recently announced there a Movie Project Design and Call For Angels and Assistances) [with edition/addition]:

*

August 16 2011

It seems to me:

Congressman Eric Cantor [The House Republican Majority Leader although not The Speaker] is the only public official presently on stage who my basic gut feelings and instincts tell me would effectively handle the Office of President of the United States of America

John W Stevenson

http://www.johnwstevenson.com

http://www.johnwstevensonforpresident.com

John W Stevenson on December 23, 2011 at 9:42 AM

I’m not so sure that the GOP establishment didn’t just intentionally tank this one, accepting the self-inflicted damage in return for whatever damage they could do to the conservatives, who are a bigger existential threat to them than are the dems.

Sounds crazy, but believing otherwise requires crediting them with no political skills at all – and give the devil his due, I believe that they have those kinds of skills.

bofh on December 23, 2011 at 9:50 AM

Your only as strong as your leader and Boehner is weak. The GOP can’t seem to put any idea together and express it to the public. I mean really, the President comes out about some man not being able to have “pizza night”….and this wins the message wars??

WiRichey on December 23, 2011 at 9:52 AM

There is only one saving grace for our side on this poorly handled fiasco. That is that six months from now this will all be forgotten history for the most part. Thanks to the DBM news cycles are so fast this will be lost in the wind.
Our goal from now on should be not to let the commiecrats always be four steps ahead of us and lets stop letting them set the agenda.

rodguy911 on December 23, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Just passed the House by UC. That was quick.

NoStoppingUs on December 23, 2011 at 10:10 AM

Big deal . . . now the same old “BS” starts all over again in January. We need to find the breeding grounds for these idiot politicians and destroy it.

rplat on December 23, 2011 at 10:15 AM

I’m not so sure that the GOP establishment didn’t just intentionally tank this one, accepting the self-inflicted damage in return for whatever damage they could do to the conservatives, who are a bigger existential threat to them than are the dems.

Sounds crazy, but believing otherwise requires crediting them with no political skills at all – and give the devil his due, I believe that they have those kinds of skills.

bofh on December 23, 2011 at 9:50 AM

Interesting theory.

rplat on December 23, 2011 at 11:01 AM

This is not a surprise. Dems & Repubs are two faces of the same party, the Political Elites. It is merely showmanship to divert attention from their ultimate goals, total subjugation of everyone else. Rather than do the job they were elected to do and honor their oaths of office, they choose to spend their time posturing and begging us for money to help them keep their jobs.

I saw a comment suggesting Marsha Blackburn for SoH, I like her and have written her office on several occasions. But regardless of who holds what office, the end game will be the same…the death of America…and it is coming sooner than we might hope.

If the hope of American hangs on $90-$120 in the pockets of (the few remaining) working Americans, then the country is in excellent shape. The sadness is that this tiny drop of cash will have no effect on the economy or the well-being of the American work-force (rememmber, it is a payroll with-holding adjustment, which means it does not come out of your check, while the tax liability remains the same…meaning your 2011 ‘refund’ will be lower, or your payment will be higher, by the amount not withheld. They have ‘played’ the American workforce.) If the Repubs had any scruples, they would have made this abundantly clear and adamantly refused to ‘kick THIS can down the road’.

I have a free Survival eBook (and other stuff) available at http://www.rongoulden.com/Literary.htm (it can provide a starting point to plan for the wickedness that is coming or way.)

“In the early years of the twenty-first century, a vile evil
ascended the throne of the American Republic. He came
from obscurity, shrouded in mystery and misdirection.
Like the serpent, he promised all things to all people.
He always said what people wanted to hear. His open
disdain for America, the Constitution, and its governing
principles went unnoticed by the mainstream media,
which quickly became his Ministry of Propaganda.

This man, Mabus, ascended the American throne, not
by rightful election of the populace, but by enormous
propaganda efforts and fraudulent voting practices,
funded by his foreign masters who counted among
their numbers dictators, terrorists, and rabid socialists
bent upon the destruction of America.” – Night of Screams(2010)

xmanvietnam on December 23, 2011 at 11:37 AM

What can a rational person say to the GOP except Goodbye?

I’d blame the Peter Principle but then my head keeps saying that it is planned incompetence.Too often, too similar, too self-destructive to be accidental.

Don L on December 23, 2011 at 12:04 PM

I guess I shouldn’t be but I am amazed at the complete incompetence of McConnell and Boehner. Even if, for some odd reason, you believe that they support core principles their sheer idiocy means they have to go ASAP.

independentvoice on December 23, 2011 at 1:54 PM

In exchange, Reid agreed to appoint several Senate Democrats to start negotiating with the House on a full-year payroll-tax holiday extension

I hope these negotiations go better than the super committee negotiations for debt reduction!

The tax cut is whatever. We really need that pipeline deal, people!

Epic failure all the way around.

Major Infidel on December 23, 2011 at 7:06 PM

I blame mcconnell too- the senate took away the houses leverage. but the speaker should of called for committee 2 seconds after senate vote and should of said the house has a bill ready and the dems dont care about the people cuz they want a vacation like obama-mcconnell threw the house under the bus and the speaker must have been in on it- why else such poor strategy and pr?

markcon on December 23, 2011 at 11:08 PM

I think the scotus decision will decide the election

markcon on December 23, 2011 at 11:10 PM

So let me get this straight:

Obama is investing a billion dollars in fighting a “do-nothing Congress.”

Republicans successfully manage to pass legislation that forces Obama’s hand on Keystone basically in exchange for bad press on a day absolutely NO ONE except junkies are paying attention to politics.

Seriously, you are impossibly foolish if you believe anyone is paying attention to any news at all during Christmas week. Not only will no one know about this, Obama crediting this in his column after the holidays undermines his “do-nothing congress” spiel. I’m sure he can revise it to “Congress is do nothing except for XYZ bills that I, I, me, my, I, I, worked on” but that is a lot of brew.

So:

Strategic victory at the cost of tactical failure.

BKennedy on December 24, 2011 at 6:41 AM

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