Breaking: Deal near on payroll tax cut extension? Update: 90 days?

posted at 12:00 pm on December 22, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Have Republicans and Democrats — or more precisely, Republicans and Republicans — resolved the standoff over the payroll tax cut extension?  Nothing is breaking on the news websites as of yet, but political reporters are all, er, atwitter over leaks that a face-saving resolution might have been reached.  The deal would have the House GOP agreeing to a 60-day extension, but the Senate agreeing to go to a conference committee after the break to resolve the differences between the House one-year extension and the Senate bill.

Ed Henry of Fox News has been tweeting about the rumors:

President basically told Boehner, if you pass two-month extension Democrats will move forward on talks over one-year deal …

This is big morning in this story: now have the outline of a deal; if Boehner passes two-month extend, Reid appoints conferees on 1-yr deal

It’s not much of a concession for Obama, but then again, he didn’t need to move much after Mitch McConnell publicly called on the House to pass the Senate bill, although he also foreshadowed the deal:

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell on Thursday urged House Republicans to pass a two-month extension of the payroll tax cut, putting greater pressure on House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to act.

McConnell said House passage of a Senate-approved payroll tax relief package “locks in” legislative language requiring President Obama to speed up his timetable for approving the Keystone XL oil sands pipeline.

The bipartisan Senate package also includes a two-month extension of unemployment benefits and a two-month freeze of scheduled cuts to doctors’ Medicare payments. The cost of the package is offset by increasing fees at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, cutting about $3 billion from the deficit.

McConnell also backed Boehner’s demand that Senate Democrats should appoint conferees to negotiate a yearlong extension of the payroll tax extension with the House.

Obama has tentatively scheduled a statement for 1 pm ET today, which sounds as if there has been a resolution … assuming Boehner can deliver it.  We’ll keep our eyes open for updates to this story.

Update: It’s being widely reported that Boehner tried to get Obama to reopen negotiations, but ended up with a refusal:

“The speaker explained his concern that flaws in the Senate-passed bill will be unworkable for many small business job creators,” an aide to the Ohio Republican said. “The president declined the speaker’s offer.”

According to the White House, Obama repeated on the phone call his belief that the “only viable option currently on the table” to prevent a tax increase for 160 million American workers is the Senate-passed, two-month extension. But Obama pledged to work with the House on a full-year extension once the Senate package is approved.

This deal is mostly a face-saving maneuver.  The only real concession is that Reid will agree to use the conference committee process rather than demand identical passage, which has some significance, but not whole lot.  It means that the GOP still have to agree to the shorter-term extension and negotiate for the one-year extension, which is precisely what was going to happen anyway.

Update II: Fox News reports that one “top House Republican” wants to compromise on a 90-day extension:

A top House Republican suggested Thursday that Congress could extend the payroll tax cut for three months as a potential compromise between the yearlong extension backed by the House and the two-month measure approved by the Senate. …

Meanwhile, Michigan Republican Rep. Dave Camp said in an interview on CNBC Thursday that a three-month extension could at least help employers with their quarterly reports.

It’s unclear whether the White House or Senate Democrats would be open to a three-month measure. Boehner too pushed back on the idea when asked about it at the GOP press conference, though he didn’t definitively rule it out. He said “nothing” can happen until House lawmakers have somebody on the Senate side with whom to negotiate.

There are two very large problems with that offer.  First, it makes minced meat out of the Republican objection to the 60-day extension over a year-long extension.  What’s the difference?  The problems cited by payroll management firms would be relatively equal between the 60- and 90-day extensions.  Second, it would mean that the Senate would have to return to pass a different bill with the 90-day extension.  If they were going to do that, the GOP could have just stuck with the demand for a one-year extension.

This is getting worse and worse for House Republicans.  If they are okay with a short-term extension, then they should pass the bipartisan Senate bill and go home already.


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Somebody gave me crap yesterday about saying Boehner would cave…

LOL.

Do I know the GOP or what?!

katy on December 22, 2011 at 12:04 PM

Darn it. I was hoping for alot more ridiculous Republican infighting and Democrat demagoging over this!

forest on December 22, 2011 at 12:04 PM

LOL. Don’t count on anything with the Tea Party idiots in the House. Obama climbed to 49% approval with Rasmussen today. The House GOP won’t rest until he passes 50.

Mark1971 on December 22, 2011 at 12:04 PM

YEAH!!!!! Maybe we will get another super duper committee to save us!!!!

1nolibgal on December 22, 2011 at 12:05 PM

Nice of McConnell to throw the House GOP under the bus like that. What a joke these people are.

changer1701 on December 22, 2011 at 12:05 PM

My congressman (Fitzpatrick PA08) had a tele-town hall last night and floated this as a potential solution.

msmveritas on December 22, 2011 at 12:06 PM

Nice Trojan Horse McConnell, you weasel. With Boehner and McConnell, it’s a wonder Bush got a second term.

HopeHeFails on December 22, 2011 at 12:06 PM

So the small business owner takes it in the shorts again.

It is almost like they are trying to make all business owners just give up.

jukin3 on December 22, 2011 at 12:06 PM

The Land of the Free Whiners, and her Leader Thug in Chief have reached near bottom.

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2011 at 12:08 PM

Meh. The entire GOP leadership sucks. Throw all of those lily-livered bums out.

AH_C on December 22, 2011 at 12:08 PM

More BS. You status quo Republicans realize that there really is no difference between these two parties right. Yeah there are small differences but both parties do nothing but continue the corruption.

-Increased size of government.
-Increase debt
-Bailouts for their buddies (TARP/Stimulus)
-Open borders
-Violations of our Constitutional rights
-More useless wars

MoreLiberty on December 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM

What the GOP caved? No way. This is unprecedented.

angryed on December 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM

Cave. Yeah, I know, the House gained something, it’s no longer a two month extension, it’s a 60 day extension.

I don’t know why the House is getting a black eye over this. It’s McConnell and the dumb as a stump goofy grinning go along to get along Republicans in the Senate who deserve a strong wire brushing over their agreement with this unworkable two month extension.

AZfederalist on December 22, 2011 at 12:10 PM

Throw Them All Out!

Midwestprincesse on December 22, 2011 at 12:10 PM

Aloha Dear Leader…

d1carter on December 22, 2011 at 12:11 PM

Well, well, thanks McConnell for neutering the House again. Caving will not stop the media from claiming yet another Obama victory.

sandee on December 22, 2011 at 12:11 PM

“I’m shocked, SHOCKED… to find gambling in this place!”

Seven Percent Solution on December 22, 2011 at 12:11 PM

If the CEO of any Fortune 500 company made any 2 month business decisions he’d be fired by the board the next day. But Obama and Reid make 2 month decisions and they’re praised by the MSM.

angryed on December 22, 2011 at 12:11 PM

Once again, the House Repubs get played big time! It happened with the debt ceiling and now with this. They are such experts in snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. We are in BIG TROUBLE!

rjoco1 on December 22, 2011 at 12:13 PM

Is Keystone part of this stupidity at least?

angryed on December 22, 2011 at 12:13 PM

If the CEO of any Fortune 500 company made any 2 month business decisions he’d be fired by the board the next day. But Obama and Reid make 2 month decisions and they’re praised by the MSM.

angryed on December 22, 2011 at 12:11 PM

Because the MSM doesn’t understand the economy. Gingrich was dead on when he hit one of the MSNBC debate moderators on their malfeasance in reporting about the economy.

John_Locke on December 22, 2011 at 12:13 PM

Only these GOP leaders could be outmaneuvered by a moron who tells you when to not call his bluff.

The Count on December 22, 2011 at 12:14 PM

President basically told Boehner, if you pass two-month extension Democrats will move forward on talks over one-year deal …

And the Weeper of the House bought this cr@p from Barky, who is the most untrustworthy, underhanded, liar we have ever seen in the Oval Office … by orders of magnitude.

How many times will the Weeper make deals with the America-hater over stuff that they will “negotiate” in the future … as if Barky has EVER shown good faith in ANY “negotiation” he has “taken part in”, to be overly charitable to the Indonesian Imbecile.

Super-Committee II, Idiot Bugaloo

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 22, 2011 at 12:14 PM

My congressman (Fitzpatrick PA08) had a tele-town hall last night and floated this as a potential solution.

msmveritas on December 22, 2011 at 12:06 PM

I missed that one. Would like to hear more. Mike was in the Speaker’s chair and denied the vote on the Senate bill, so he is going to take some political heat over this if there is no deal.

Sounds like an OK deal to me.

rockmom on December 22, 2011 at 12:14 PM

Boehner=Loser. Pathetic.

The Spear on December 22, 2011 at 12:15 PM

Fire Mitch McConnell. H E double hockey sticks, fire everyone in Washington. I’m tired of all this Republican “appeasement” in the Senate.

Mini-14 on December 22, 2011 at 12:15 PM

Old and Busted: This 2 month policy is unworkable and stupid.

New Hotness: This deal is awesome!

lorien1973 on December 22, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Boehner=Loser. Pathetic.

The Spear on December 22, 2011 at 12:15 PM

You’re going to make him cry. Of course, waking up makes Boner cry like a baby …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 22, 2011 at 12:16 PM

Boehner=Loser. Pathetic.

The Spear on December 22, 2011 at 12:15 PM

This falls squarely on McConnell in my book. Boehner is weak but this time it’s not his fault.

sandee on December 22, 2011 at 12:17 PM

The Republicans need to fold. Obama’s got all of the cards.

Live to fight another day; this ain’t the hill to stand on.

Er, I need a few more metaphors.

SteveMG on December 22, 2011 at 12:17 PM

What about the friggin’ bill that already passed the HOUSE? What about all the other damn bills that WOULD ACTUALLY HELP OUR ECONOMY that the House has passed that are collecting dust up Reid’s pompous ass? Yet all we hear are the sound of crickets and Bonehead and McConnell selling us down the river.

search4truth on December 22, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Throw Them All Out!

Midwestprincesse on December 22, 2011 at 12:10 PM

Throw out the GOP to land on top of the dems for maximum effect. Does anybody realize the original law that reduced the payroll deduction was rider to an FAA funding bill? It was signed into law on 12/17/2010 as one of the last things the completely dem controlled congress passed after getting wiped in the 2010 elections.

The third rail that could never be touched was defunded by 13.1% BY DEMOCRATS and they have no price they have paid. And the GOP is caving to set it in stone.

Restore the payroll tax and offset it with other revenue reductions or lobby to reduce SS benefits you collective twits.

Tea Party unite, they are distracted again!

DanMan on December 22, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Mitch McConnell must stab the House in the face every 6 months or so it seems.

SouthernGent on December 22, 2011 at 12:18 PM

LOL. Don’t count on anything with the Tea Party idiots in the House. Obama climbed to 49% approval with Rasmussen today. The House GOP won’t rest until he passes 50.

Mark1971

The problem isn’t IN The House now is it? Let’s re-center for a moment: The Real Issue resides in the fact that Working Americans have been paying the better part of $4 a gal. for going on… wait for it… three years!

For my wife, the Payroll Boodle has amounted to a grand total of about $11 a payday! ( Is this what we’re squabbling over? ) If you’re looking for pathetic idiots Mark, try 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Marshall_Will on December 22, 2011 at 12:18 PM

I missed that one. Would like to hear more. Mike was in the Speaker’s chair and denied the vote on the Senate bill, so he is going to take some political heat over this if there is no deal.

Sounds like an OK deal to me.

rockmom on December 22, 2011 at 12:14 PM

I was fine with it. He took a little heat on the call but not much. One guy was telling him what the pundits like Krauthammer were suggesting as a way out so I would not have been surprised if they came up with a Krauthammer compromise either.

msmveritas on December 22, 2011 at 12:19 PM

LOL. Don’t count on anything with the Tea Party idiots in the House. Obama climbed to 49% approval with Rasmussen today. The House GOP won’t rest until he passes 50.

Mark1971 on December 22, 2011 at 12:04 PM

Yeah, heaven forbid someone actually try and defend the Constitution. Damn those idiots.

search4truth on December 22, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Wasn’t the two-month extension always meant to buy time to negotiate the year-long extension (more precisely, how to pay for a year-long extension). I don’t see what’s changed. Isn’t this essentially the house GOPers caving and voting for the Senate bill?

Tom_Shipley on December 22, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Somebody gave me crap yesterday about saying Boehner would cave…

LOL.

Do I know the GOP or what?!

katy on December 22, 2011 at 12:04 PM

You must be referring to me as I read your post while eating humble pie.

Um….pass the salt….pretty please.

timberline on December 22, 2011 at 12:20 PM

Boehner already said nyet to the 60 day/compromise. The latest word is a 90 day compromise. Also, bo the dog was in hawaii according to msm reports, did they fly the dog back to dc for a photo-op.

Mr. Sun on December 22, 2011 at 12:20 PM

Cave. Yeah, I know, the House gained something, it’s no longer a two month extension, it’s a 60 day extension.

Ah, there’s the answer. Yeah, so basically they just have a shorter amount of time to negotiate how to pay for the year-long tax break. Big “win.”

Tom_Shipley on December 22, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Mark1971 on December 22, 2011 at 12:04 PM

And what is your recommendation? What should they have done in your opinion?

I hate drive-by commenting.

Charlemagne on December 22, 2011 at 12:22 PM

And the Weeper of the House bought this cr@p from Barky, who is the most untrustworthy, underhanded, liar we have ever seen in the Oval Office … by orders of magnitude.

How many times will the Weeper make deals with the America-hater over stuff that they will “negotiate” in the future

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 22, 2011 at 12:14 PM

Reminds me of a scene from WKRP years ago where Herb lectures Andy after Andy accepted a bad check from one of the advertisers who then conned a great deal. Herb says, “He did that to me a hundred times, then I got smart!”

Wonder if Boehner has a bunch of checked golf suits in his closet

AZfederalist on December 22, 2011 at 12:22 PM

We already got the XL Pipeline as part of the two month deal. It was stupidity not to pass the two month bill when the House had never indicated that it did not support the senate deal. Politics is the art of the possible, and this was what was possible with control of only one house.

Let’s take the concessions we got with the two month deal and see what we can get for the whole year.

cabbie25 on December 22, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Blame Bush.

timberline on December 22, 2011 at 12:23 PM

*** Question! ***

I still don’t understand the GOP talking point that the “non-partisan” National Payroll Reporting Consortium declares that if payroll taxes are increased, it is no problem to change the payroll systems during the holiday week between Christmas and New Years, but if the 2-month tax cut extension passes, 7 weeks is absolutely insufficient to make any change at all in the systems and Obama-induced “son of Y2K” will end the world. How is that supposed to work? I still don’t understand. Please someone explain this to me, if you would.says

kunegetikos on December 22, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Most of the public – focused on the holidays – are hearing this as background noise and interpreting it as “The Republicans are against the little guy again. Tax cuts for all the rich guys but not me!”

The optics (ugh, hate that word) are against them.

Need to stop the bleeding now.

SteveMG on December 22, 2011 at 12:23 PM

How will the news media deal with the Iraq already starting to fall apart. Won’t touch it! They’ll give that Socialist and his America hating wife a pass.

rjoco1 on December 22, 2011 at 12:24 PM

Tom_Shipley on December 22, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Yes. They shuffled the deck chairs to make it look like they bargained for a conference on the year’s payroll tax extension, but that’s a joke because democrats always wanted the year long extension – they just didn’t want means-tested Medicare, which was included in the House Bill.

The Count on December 22, 2011 at 12:25 PM

LOL. Don’t count on anything with the Tea Party idiots in the House. Obama climbed to 49% approval with Rasmussen today. The House GOP won’t rest until he passes 50.

Mark1971 on December 22, 2011 at 12:04 PM

Really? Tea Party idiots? Seems like they are the only people who think we should control the out of control. Calling them idiots would make you the butt of that joke wouldn’t it.

landowner on December 22, 2011 at 12:25 PM

The optics (ugh, hate that word) are against them.

Need to stop the bleeding now.

SteveMG on December 22, 2011 at 12:23 PM

With the MSM the “bleeding” has just begun…

sandee on December 22, 2011 at 12:25 PM

McConnell is a buffoon and needs to be thrown out. His gang should have never passed the stupid 2-months idiocy.

Tom_Shipley on December 22, 2011 at 12:21 PM

You are way dumber than I thought. I’m sad that Ed ‘hangs out’ with the likes of you.

Your Leader is none; he’s a thug, a sausage made of: Muenchhausen, Orwell, Pinocchio and Machiavelli.

That such ‘intelligent’ ones like you fall for it is the sadest thing in the world. May you and yours suffer the destruction he causes.

May the land wake up or really go under. She deserves either.

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2011 at 12:25 PM

Save us from Republicans.

Dante on December 22, 2011 at 12:25 PM

I can say Cornyn is a spineless loser and mean it now. Hey John, how about crawling out of your hole and explaining your vote? We lost Kay along time ago, didn’t expect it so fast from you.

Speak up McConnel. Explain yourself.

DanMan on December 22, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Er, I need a few more metaphors.

SteveMG on December 22, 2011 at 12:17 PM

I sense your snark but you were correct. THIS is not an issue to plant your flag and fight to the death. There will be plenty of much bigger issues in the near future in which to stand your ground.

VegasRick on December 22, 2011 at 12:26 PM

How will the news media deal with the Iraq already starting to fall apart. Won’t touch it!

Er, it was on the front page of the major newspapers. It’s been reported everywhere.

Anyway, if Iraq falls apart at this stage there’s nobody to blame but the Iraqis. Our keeping 20,000 troops there isn’t going to hold that country together politically.

We needed to keep troops there to prevent outsiders – Iran – from gaining control. But not to keep the internal forces from each other’s throats.

SteveMG on December 22, 2011 at 12:27 PM

They are suppose to go to committee when both houses pass different bills , no?
Epic fail, gop elite lose

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 12:27 PM

Lsm to praise dear leader ad he takes off for hawaii

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 12:28 PM

With the MSM the “bleeding” has just begun…

Yeah, but that’s why they need to give in and then let another story take hold.

If they give in, this will be forgotten in a couple of weeks. North Korea, Iraq, something will grab the headlines.

SteveMG on December 22, 2011 at 12:29 PM

Boehner is such an idiot. Every so called concession from Obama has been a promise to do something in the future.

Debt Ceiling: Obama promised to have a commission set up which ended up doing nothing.

Payroll: Obama promised to review Keystone. Reid promised to talk about extending the cut to a year.

Next year, Boehner will agree to higher taxes, for yet another promise to maybe look at cutting spending sometime in the year 2081.

angryed on December 22, 2011 at 12:29 PM

timberline on December 22, 2011 at 12:20 PM

Humble pie is a staple here at HA. As rare as I’m forced to partake…eh hem (this statement alone would qualify my slice) I prefer it with a dolup if ice cream.

katy on December 22, 2011 at 12:29 PM

cabbie25 on December 22, 2011 at 12:23 PM

There was way more than the tax extension in the House vote. The senate scuttled the entire thing and the media only mentions the tax part.

DanMan on December 22, 2011 at 12:29 PM

What the GOP caved? No way. This is unprecedented.

angryed on December 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM

This made me LOL.

formerwm on December 22, 2011 at 12:29 PM

search4truth said:

Yeah, heaven forbid someone actually try and defend the Constitution. Damn those idiots.

search4truth

Heaven forbid. If there’s been any failing within the TP delegates ( including Scott Brown ) WE will deal w/ them! It’s not the place for Dims ( who’ve done nothing but effect Soft Coup’s, pile on the regulation, defy court orders and provide taxpayer-backed sugar daddy funding to pipedreams ) to say!

They’re so desparate, clutching for any straw, they go negative before brushing their teeth.

Marshall_Will on December 22, 2011 at 12:29 PM

bho is suppose to get his face on the tube this afternoon to slam the r’s on this. Wonder if he still will? I bet he will just to drive a stake in their hearts! Gads I am so tired of almost every single human in dc! That goes for bho the most.
L

letget on December 22, 2011 at 12:29 PM

And what is your recommendation? What should they have done in your opinion?

I hate drive-by commenting.

Charlemagne on December 22, 2011 at 12:22 PM

This is no longer about whether extending the payroll tax is a good idea. Once the House GOP voted in principle to extend the payroll tax cut they should have agreed to the 2 month extension. All they are doing now is making Dems look good and themselves look bad.

Mark1971 on December 22, 2011 at 12:30 PM

Save us from Republicans.

Dante on December 22, 2011 at 12:25 PM

Save us from fools. In 2012 throw the entire congress out, from the left to the right. The monarchs need to learn what they were meant to be.

The squishes who reside there, and the squishes who run for the presidency, incl. Obama, are all made of fluff.

There are hardly any real men left, for shame. Yes, that includes Pelosi. She’s not a man, she’s a witch. May her broom fly her far away, soon. I hope that she wears her light blue suit when she does.

Throw McConnell out in the next round. Even if he’s been conservative now and then, he’s way too aristocratice. None of them s/b there after 6 years. Out, home, packing!

NO laws s/b forced onto the voters that are not good enough for the primadonnas in Wash. DC.

The founding father are all turning in their graves.

The land is full of spineless puerile lazy morons.

Wake up or go under. You deserve either.

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2011 at 12:30 PM

Let Iraq fall apart – that country isn’t worth one American. If Iraqis believe in democracy so much let them fight for it.

MoreLiberty on December 22, 2011 at 12:30 PM

“Obama is for tax cuts and the Rs are against them” –Orwell lives

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2011 at 12:31 PM

This fight needs to go on till Obama hits 60% in the pools

liberal4life on December 22, 2011 at 12:31 PM

Media, suffocate from what you eat, what you dwell in, you derelicts.

May you all spontaneously combust for dereliction of duty.

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2011 at 12:32 PM

I still don’t understand the GOP talking point that the “non-partisan” National Payroll Reporting Consortium declares that if payroll taxes are increased, it is no problem to change the payroll systems during the holiday week between Christmas and New Years, but if the 2-month tax cut extension passes, 7 weeks is absolutely insufficient to make any change at all in the systems and Obama-induced “son of Y2K” will end the world. How is that supposed to work? I still don’t understand. Please someone explain this to me, if you would.says

kunegetikos on December 22, 2011 at 12:23 PM

If the rate goes back to 6.2% from 4.2%, you change 4.2 to 6.2 in the software. No problem.

But with 2 month extension, the Democrats added language in there that high earners can’t take full advantage of the 2 month extension. So say someone make $25,000 a month in salary. A 2% cut for that person would mean $1000 cut in 2 months. But Reid’s bill says that person can only get a proportional cut of that $1000. So instead of changing 4.2 to 6.2, the software now has to add all these formula calculations to make sure the evil rich people don’t get too much money. And every one of these formula calculations has to be written, QAed, approved by accounting, signed off by the CIO, etc. Takes lots of time.

angryed on December 22, 2011 at 12:33 PM

“The GOP will Betray you”

-True King

portlandon on December 22, 2011 at 12:34 PM

They are suppose to go to committee when both houses pass different bills , no?
Epic fail, gop elite lose

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 12:27 PM

The Senate was demanding that the House pass the Senate bill, period, and then start a whole new process in January of producing new House and Senate bills for the full one-year extension. That would allow for even more gamesmanship and probably wind up with us right back at this point in February.

Of course, Reid will just appoint non-serious conferees just like he did with the Supercommittee.

But it will ultimately pay dividends for Boehner to keep demanding that legislation be done through regular order. He is showing the country that Harry Reid is running the Senate like his personal playground, throwing out all the rules and creating chaos as a result.

rockmom on December 22, 2011 at 12:34 PM

liberal4life on December 22, 2011 at 12:31 PM

Feed the troll and it never goes away.

angryed on December 22, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Reason # 3,489,103 why we need a third party.

portlandon on December 22, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Shipley, my mistake – my comment to you was to this, yer comment

Ah, there’s the answer. Yeah, so basically they just have a shorter amount of time to negotiate how to pay for the year-long tax break. Big “win.”

Tom_Shipley on December 22, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Mark1971 said:

All they are doing now is making Dems look good and themselves look bad.

Pffftt. Whatever the public’s perception, let me assure you spin-meister M, the Dims are not coming away from this for the better. Nice try though!

Marshall_Will on December 22, 2011 at 12:36 PM

Defies belief that the GOP could lose the messaging war on this.

Just as it defies belief that the TEA party polls roughly as favorably as OWS.

Just what in the wide wide world of sports is going on here?

Purple Fury on December 22, 2011 at 12:36 PM

The problem isn’t IN The House now is it? Let’s re-center for a moment: The Real Issue resides in the fact that Working Americans have been paying the better part of $4 a gal. for going on… wait for it… three years!

For my wife, the Payroll Boodle has amounted to a grand total of about $11 a payday! ( Is this what we’re squabbling over? ) If you’re looking for pathetic idiots Mark, try 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Marshall_Will on December 22, 2011 at 12:18 PM

If the 2-month payroll tax deal pressures Obummer into approving the Keystone XL pipeline, the prospect of increased crude oil supplies from Canada will incite oil-futures traders to bid down the price of crude, and we might see gas under $3 / gallon by Election Day.

Then the REPUBLICANS need to get on their soapboxes and publicly take credit for it.

Steve Z on December 22, 2011 at 12:36 PM

McConnell is a buffoon and a fool, demanding ‘respect’ and assuming that he’s brilliant. Could never stand the aristocrat. Go home! Live like the rest of the people.

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2011 at 12:36 PM

My concern is that I’ve heard that the Senate bill has a provision for increasing the mortgage insurance fee for home buyers starting January of 2012. My wife & I are in the process of buying a house (first time home buyers… what this housing market is sorely lacking).

We have enough for a decent downpayment, but not enough to cover the 20% down minimum to avoid the mortgage insurance requirement. We’re being responsible in making sure we don’t over extend ourselves financially, and taking advantage of the lower housing prices and lower interest rates. And we’re trying to keep our potential monthly numbers (mortgage, mortgage insurance, home owners insurance and property taxes) under a certain amount.

If the provision in the bill is true, then that mortgage insurance fee will increase by an additional $25-50/month. That might not mean much for these effing politicians in DC, but it means quite a lot for us.

If true, I’m pissed!!!

TrubadorMike on December 22, 2011 at 12:38 PM

or more precisely, Republicans and Republicans

With friends like these, who needs enemies?! Now Dear Leader can take his million dollar tax payer funded vacay. You’re welcome.

conservative pilgrim on December 22, 2011 at 12:38 PM

Obama and the Democrats think the payroll tax cut will provide some measure of stimulus. We know that’s not true but do take the opportunity to use your savings wisely since they likely won’t last.

If you have a 401k plan increase your contribution by the amount of the tax cut. Call it your own social security privatization plan.

Charlemagne on December 22, 2011 at 12:39 PM

Good. Get this cr@p out of the headlines, and get back to other matters. Not that it’s not important – just that it was a no-win situation, due to the way it was handled.

Let Iraq fall apart – that country isn’t worth one American. If Iraqis believe in democracy so much let them fight for it.

MoreLiberty on December 22, 2011 at 12:30 PM

Dang…way harsh, dude.
Can’t agree that it is not “worth” the investment we made and the attention we give it. Gotta have hope.

connertown on December 22, 2011 at 12:39 PM

Git ‘er done and get on to the business of making Obama history.

GeorgieGirl9 on December 22, 2011 at 12:39 PM

This fight needs to go on till Obama hits 60% in the pools
liberal4life on December 22, 2011 at 12:31 PM

Wearing his Speedo’s? What if the chlorine bleaches his hair gray?

Steve Z on December 22, 2011 at 12:40 PM

I wonder how many more charades over policy resulting in the GOP caving in the country is gonna endure before people realize a political solution will not fix the country’s problems.

bgibbs1000 on December 22, 2011 at 12:40 PM

This entire scenario is a shining example of how we need term limits.

Vera71 on December 22, 2011 at 12:41 PM

angryed on December 22, 2011 at 12:33 PM

thank you, was trying to explain this to mr cmsinaz

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 12:42 PM

so the keystone pipeline is back on the shelf correct?

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Do you get the feeling that McConnell really doesn’t want to be majority leader? He might have to do some work AND be held accountable. I have a feeling he will get his wish.

lea on December 22, 2011 at 12:42 PM

If true, I’m pissed!!!

TrubadorMike on December 22, 2011 at 12:38 PM

It is true, but the media and Dear Leader don’t talk about that. The witch in Congress doesn’t either, nor does Tom_Shipley and his cohort.

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2011 at 12:43 PM

so the keystone pipeline is back on the shelf correct?

cmsinaz on December 22, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Has fallen through the cracks, but hey “Obama is for jobs creation”.

The sky is green too.

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2011 at 12:44 PM

Git ‘er done and move on to the business of making Obama history.

GeorgieGirl9 on December 22, 2011 at 12:44 PM

Never argue with an idiot. Bystanders won’t be able to tell the difference.

The House GOP needs to just cave on this silly issue and move on. There is such a thing as being “dead right” which is what the GOP was on this issue.

My opinion is that Democrats are slitting their own throats by continually cutting the payroll tax, why on Earth should the GOP stop them? We should push to make the payroll tax cut permanent.

BradTank on December 22, 2011 at 12:45 PM

Breaking: Tax extension approved: Obama can’t get off the ground in Air Force One—Lightsquared said to be testing new equipment.
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Rovin on December 22, 2011 at 12:46 PM

Git ‘er done and move on to the business of making Obama history.

GeorgieGirl9 on December 22, 2011 at 12:44 PM

The rightie/leftie establishment and the media have aligned all the stars, to perfection, to re-elect him.

The land deserves him.

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2011 at 12:46 PM

A 2 month extension does 2 things:

a) Maintains business uncertainty as to WTH the government is going to do next re: taxes and regulations
b) Causes a big headache for IT and Finance. In a small business that role is normally handled by one person and a CPA.

But I forget, most of these people have no business experience.

CorporatePiggy on December 22, 2011 at 12:46 PM

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