We already have 148,622 miles of oil pipelines in the US. And that includes 50,214 miles of oil pipelines for crude oil only.

I’ve heard that the crude produced by these wells (tar sands) is different from regular crude: thicker, “dirtier” (whatever that means), etc. Could it be that existing pipelines are either unable to transport it, that they already are being used to capacity, or some other factor requires a new pipeline?

RebeccaH on December 21, 2011 at 11:58 AM

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I’d like to, really we would; While I don’t speak for Canada, I am not at all convinced America will get rid of him

What is it, 70% of the US population actually LIKES this guy still ? His personal approval is STILL sky-high… and a more uninteresting and negative sourpuss has not been seen in teh US since what, Kerry ?
Can’t they read (i.e Ayers, Chicago, Rezko, MF Global, Solyndra, Fast & Furious, Black Panthers, Rev Wright, Corzine, darn that’s a long list..)

I think Canada should either build it’s own refineries and/or Northern Gateway, so if ever another American President decides to hold us canadians hostage , and treat us like dirt, we can tell him (not the US population, I love the US…) to go play in the traffic and/or jump off a very short pier..

TC all
JMG

It’s similar to offshoring manufacturing to China, IMHO. Lines executives’ pockets but hurts the nation.

funky chicken on December 21, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Why do you buy Chinese products, funky chicken? I think it’s so you can keep your pockets lined.

Obama has no, nada, zip, zilch, zero interest in anything that helps America.

clippermiami on December 21, 2011 at 10:55 AM

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This ^^^^
I follow american, european and international politics (as well as Business) to a “t”, and I am 90% sure that not only did he punt it, but will NOT approve it by Dec 2012

After all, why would he, after he has presumably won in Nov 2012

He’ll have no downside, he’ll be a ‘Apres moi est le Deluge” 2nd term (i..e he won’t give a crap…) and will be able to really stick it to teh Oilsands, that conservative PM in canada, and get the adoration of the Green whack-jobs for life, for his inveitable After-Presidency a la Carter; Thug hugging, moralizing, NGO’s, you name it, he’ll be Al Gore II, without the fatness :)

No way, Jose that KeyStone flies , I’m sure of it; the US has developed into BANANA country (i.e. Build absolutely nothing anywhere at any time..). KeyStone is DEAD unless The Repubs win in November, I guarantee you.

Refineries, pipelines, Nuclear/Coal/NG Plants, hell even green garbage like windmills, people don’t want them. I am a TCPL shareholder, and have written them already to forget about it, and ally themselves with Enbridge and build Northern gateway

In other news, while I am all for US-Canadian relations to be warm, friendly and cooperative, I have never been more proud of a Canadian PM than right now; the US is under occupation, by the Coastal / University credentialed elites, and they are bat$hit crazy

TC all
JMG

IMHO gasoline would long since have been $5+ but other poverty policies have limited demand. No demand, low price.

Silly D’rats keep meeting themselves as they retreat. Were it not for Rep. idiot “leaders” and their “Philosphy of phear”, D’rats would have already become unelectable for three generations.

Harper will not let a little twerp like Obama stand in the way of making money for Canada.

I’m with Boehner
http://cfif.org/v/freedom_line_blog/12452/im-with-boehner/

Newt slams Harry Reid for leaving DC amid Payroll fight
http://www.therightscoop.com/newt-slams-harry-reid-for-leaving-dc-amid-payroll-fight/

Why not build new refineries closer to Canada? Somewhere centrally located, like Nebraska or Iowa so the product can be more easily shipped to more places in this country? The oil companies have made plenty of money over the last few years, so they can certainly afford a new refinery or two.

Win-win for everybody–shorter pipeline, lots of good jobs, easier transport of finished product.

funky chicken on December 21, 2011 at 1:44 PM

The problem is that the government won’t allow them to build refineries in their beautiful Northern states, just in the South.

Anyways, with all of the regulation these days, building a new refinery _anywhere_ is a super-expensive nightmare.

These are the very same people that history will record as subverting and weakening Western civilization.

Liberalism is a policy of appeasement and denial.

Harper to Obama: I’ve got plenty of buyers for our oil

It’s not “our oil”…it belongs to whomever owns the land above it or leases it for $.

They can sell it to whomever they want for whatever price they can get.

They aren’t “our jobs”…nor can we continue sitting around expecting these companies to hire folks just to help the country out. There were those a loooong time ago that took pride in doing that, and in contributing to society, but those types are pretty much in urns and marble mausoleums these days…have been for decades.

There is no dearth of flag-waving, Patriotic, ultra-Conservative Americans out there hiring illegal Mexican immigrants in order to save themselves a few bucks (I doubt the OW crowd, Bill Ayers, and other assorted ‘tards are in much of a position to hire anyone), but these are the ones who bit@h the loudest against organized labor and illegal immigration.

It’s a rather slippery slope when one moans on and on about Socialism and yet extolls the virtues of Nationalism, and expect Capitalists to do what’s best for the country rather than what is profitable for themselves.

Why not build new refineries closer to Canada? Somewhere centrally located, like Nebraska or Iowa so the product can be more easily shipped to more places in this country? The oil companies have made plenty of money over the last few years, so they can certainly afford a new refinery or two.

Win-win for everybody–shorter pipeline, lots of good jobs, easier transport of finished product.

funky chicken on December 21, 2011 at 1:44 PM

We already have 148,622 miles of oil pipelines in the US. And that includes 50,214 miles of oil pipelines for crude oil only.

We also have 1,539,911 miles of gas pipelines here. That includes 301,896 miles of transmission pipelines.

(Cite: DOT)

We had absolutely no problem building and maintaining such a huge infrastructure, until the Leftists came along and told us they knew better than us.

Thanks for the laughs!

N. America and the West in general needs to become 100% self reliant on energy . We should not be supporting or importing our dollars into the economies of our ideological enemies.

Every petrol dollar that get’s funneled into Madrassa’s in Saudi Arabia, or Yemen is another nail in the coffin for the West.

100% Isolation from Mid East economies and OIL.

Where is our sense of self righteousness and self preservation?

Why not build new refineries closer to Canada?

The answer is in electing a GOP President and getting a GOP congress with 60+ seats in the Senate. 70 would be good. If we get just 60, unfortunately, that will empower McCain. He will continually create “gangs of 7 or gangs of 8″ or something with the Democrat to undermined conservatives.
It’s what he does.

Most of our imported oil comes from Canada and Mexico, not the ME. It’s not even close.