Obama to House GOP: You don’t really want the middle class’s payroll taxes to go up, do you?

posted at 4:05 pm on December 20, 2011 by Allahpundit

Alternate headline: “Only guy in America who’s enjoying this congressional clusterfark pretends like he wants it to end.” I got a kick out of Boehner’s new op-ed this afternoon calling on Obama to step in and lead the two sides to a deal because, really, why on earth would The One do that? He refused to dirty his hands with the far more consequential negotiations of the Super Committee because he wanted to preserve the “do-nothing Congress” meme as a campaign straw man for next year. If his campaign strategy mattered more to him than a grand bargain worth trillions in deficit reduction, it surely matters more than some ticky-tack standoff over the payroll tax. But don’t take my word for it:

The fraying of a deal to extend payroll-tax cuts and unemployment benefits gives President Obama a golden opportunity to tar House Republicans as the source of Washington’s dysfunction while championing a popular issue…

“It’s incredibly tricky ground,” said Lanae Erickson, deputy director of the Social Policy and Politics Program of the centrist Democratic group Third Way. But “there is an opportunity to capitalize on this and hang it around necks of Republicans,” she said. “I think the American people’s patience is wearing thin with the tea party, and they’re really tired of government being held hostage by them. This is just going to be another nail in that coffin.”

More from the Times:

But even some Republican strategists said Monday night that party leaders in the House had put their members in a very difficult position.

“Democrats are clearly on the high ground of reasonableness here,” Steve Schmidt, who helped run Senator John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign, said on MSNBC. “When you’re in a rock-throwing fight, you always want to be on the side that’s throwing the rocks downhill.”

He added: “It’s not a great fight for the Republicans.”

Gallup announced today that Congress’s approval hit a record low this month just as both WaPo and CNN are reporting O’s job approval is back near 50 percent, his best showing since the spring. I hope that’s a coincidence but I’m honestly not sure. From the CNN poll: “By a 50% to 31% margin, people questioned say they have more confidence in the president than in congressional Republicans to handle the major issues facing the country. Obama held a much narrower 44% to 39% margin in March.” Exit question: Chuck Schumer says the House GOP will end up caving and passing the Senate’s two-month extension. Is he right?


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Perhaps the increased reliance upon the state can be partially explained by corporations abandonment of American communities and cities, like Detroit.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Look for
the union label
when you are buying
that pension or trust

John the Libertarian on December 21, 2011 at 12:24 AM

This nomination phase of the GOP – with the blessings of a roster of candidates so boringly inept and silly that they are unwittingly doing the President’s work of reelection for him.

Even the trashing of President Obama has become a non event featuring these clowns AND a night’s entertainment for the voters who could read and write and think.

Before you know it, all the candidates’ warts have been exposed for everyone to see . With nary a protest from the President, except on rare occasions when they’ve crossed the line of decency.

And the infighting happily will continue to help President Obama because I bet that the voters are beginning to discover that the GOP are just democrats who are sadly and tragically intellectually challenged to be anything else but be the ‘ political foreplay ‘ for the main event.

It truly is Ron Paul or bust!

Scrumpy on December 21, 2011 at 12:40 AM

strange how repubs get the lion’s share of the blame, while old hairy reid runs the do nothing senatewhere he has not passed a budget for over 1000 days and refuses to address the 15 plus bills passed in the house dealing with the economy

The senate under reid is the party of no and yet the oval office fraud continues to give them a pass. Where is his leadership in demanding his party do the work they were sent to dc to do

tuttle from tacoma on December 21, 2011 at 12:41 AM

It truly is Ron Paul or bust!

At the moment he’s the only GOP nominee who’d entice me to leave the POTUS/VP spot blank on the ballot.

Aquarian on December 21, 2011 at 1:15 AM

Mitch McConnell didn’t do the GOP any favors with the senate deal that he worked out. Sometimes I wonder how he’s risen so far since he’s so hapless at judging a political mood or formulating a winning policy message. Obama is a demagogue hiding in plain sight, and it’s obvious he and the MSM are going to pound the GOP hard with this issue. No wonder tea party voters are so discouraged by what they are witnessing in Washington.

It’ll be interesting to see how the candidates respond to this mess over the next few days. A winning message is waiting for someone shrewd and bold enough to expose the three card monty the democrats are playing with social security “trust fund.”

Spirit Crusher on December 21, 2011 at 2:02 AM

The UAW didn’t design the crappy cars that failed to compete with the Japanese imports in the ’70s.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 20, 2011 at 9:08 PM

I wouldn’t normally give you a hard time, but that’s a failpost, right there…

…the UAW represents several thousand salaried employees — including engineers, designers and draftsmen — at Chrysler, Ford and General Motors.

If you don’t believe the losers in the big three engineering departments were unionized, guess again. Not all of them were, granted, but your claim about that is basically a train-wreck, chief…

MTLassen on December 21, 2011 at 3:09 AM

Just saw a replay on cnn with ari fleischer….he explained it perfectly for the house gop…dang it why won’t they listen

cmsinaz on December 21, 2011 at 6:10 AM

Perhaps the increased reliance upon the state can be partially explained by corporations abandonment of American communities and cities, like Detroit.

libfreeordie on December 20, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Has anyone here ever read something as ridiculous as this statement? Honestly, that one is golden.

Query for Libby: WHY did corporations abandon socialist hell-holes like Detroit to move to more tax friendly environments?

** Hint hint **

I’m guessin you’re a sophomore poly-sci major at some third tier liberal arts school.

BigAlSouth on December 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM

Chuck Schumer says the House GOP will end up caving and passing the Senate’s two-month extension. Is he right?

Does it matter whether Chuckie-boy’s right or wrong? These guys will never make any serious spending cuts. Even a Constitutional Amendment won’t keep these clowns in check (there’s something to be said about term limit eh).

racquetballer on December 21, 2011 at 7:25 AM

Has anyone here ever read something as ridiculous as this statement? Honestly, that one is golden.

BigAlSouth on December 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM

Given the blogosphere, yes I have!

But you are also right that it is absurd to blame the demise of Detroit on corporate abandonment. Detroit has 84 separate unions, a pro-union/anti-business mentality, virtually no tax base, and all the big city problems including not a little bit of corruption (re: Kwame Kilpatrick and Monica Conyers).

Corporations didn’t abandon Detroit. They left or went out of business because Detroit decided to use them as ATM machines to make up for the fact that anybody who could move out of the city has leaving only the poorest and richest as residents. Detroit has itself to blame for its demise, not that they have ever come to that realization.

Happy Nomad on December 21, 2011 at 7:56 AM

Democrats know how to leave a job unfinished. How to not anticipate downstream events aka Law of Unintended Consequences. All it would have taken is one phone call — “What do you think about just two months instead?”

When vacation is more important than the job you were elected to….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When demonizing your opponent is more important than the job you were elected to….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When it is more important to pass a bill than know what’s in it …must mean you’re a Democrat.
When it is more important to demagogue instead of sit down and work towards a solution ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you use straw men arguments instead of discussing an issue ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you use the tired tactics of Alinsky instead of doing your job ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you employ class warfare ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you play the race card ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you attack your opponent personally instead of his or her ideas ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you use elementary school tactics when you are supposed to be an adult… ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you try the same thing over and over and expect different resultsDemocrats know how to leave a job unfinished. How to not anticipate downstream events aka Law of Unintended Consequences. All it would have taken is one phone call — “What do you think about just two months instead?”

When vacation is more important than the job you were elected to….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When demonizing your opponent is more important than the job you were elected to….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When it is more important to pass a bill than know what’s in it …must mean you’re a Democrat.
When it is more important to demagogue instead of sit down and work towards a solution ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you use straw men arguments instead of discussing an issue ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you use the tired tactics of Alinsky instead of doing your job ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you employ class warfare ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you play the race card ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you attack your opponent personally instead of his or her ideas ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you use elementary school tactics when you are supposed to be an adult… ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
WhenDemocrats know how to leave a job unfinished. How to not anticipate downstream events aka Law of Unintended Consequences. All it would have taken is one phone call — “What do you think about just two months instead?”

When vacation is more important than the job you were elected to….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When demonizing your opponent is more important than the job you were elected to….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When it is more important to pass a bill than know what’s in it …must mean you’re a Democrat.
When it is more important to demagogue instead of sit down and work towards a solution ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you use straw men arguments instead of discussing an issue ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you use the tired tactics of Alinsky instead of doing your job ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you employ class warfare ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you play the race card ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you attack your opponent personally instead of his or her ideas ….must mean you’re a Democrat.
When you use elementary school tactics when you are supposed to be an adult… ….must mean you’re a Democrat.

ProfShadow on December 21, 2011 at 8:02 AM

Oh Frack!

Sorry…I wrote it in notepad and accidentally pasted it too many times….feel just like a Democrat..

Except I’m apologizing for what I did incorrectly ;)

ProfShadow on December 21, 2011 at 8:03 AM

It’s ok, Prof. There are a few really dense folks here. Sometimes repetition helps the message soak in.

** Hint hint **

BigAlSouth on December 21, 2011 at 8:09 AM

Well,
Let me post it just ONE time, corrected slightly, since I actually met a rational Democrat…once.

———–
Liberals know how to leave a job unfinished. How to not anticipate downstream events aka Law of Unintended Consequences.

All it would have taken is one phone call — “What do you think about just two months instead?”

=============
When vacation is more important than the job you were elected to….must mean you’re a Liberal.

When demonizing your opponent is more important than the job you were elected to….must mean you’re a Liberal.

When it is more important to pass a bill than know what’s in it …must mean you’re a Liberal.

When it is more important to demagogue instead of sit down and work towards a solution ….must mean you’re a Liberal.

When you use straw men arguments instead of discussing an issue ….must mean you’re a Liberal.

When you use the tired tactics of Alinsky instead of doing your job ….must mean you’re a Liberal.

When all you can do is paste the latest talking points … must mean you’re a Liberal.

When you try to deflect a conversation because you don’t agree…must mean you’re a Liberal.

When you cut/paste the same thing over and over but don’t hang around for any discussion …. must mean you’re a Liberal.

When you use logical fallacies as your primary discussion methodology…must mean you’re a Liberal.

When you employ class warfare ….must mean you’re a Liberal.

When you play the race card ….must mean you’re a Liberal.

When you attack your opponent personally instead of his or her ideas ….must mean you’re a Liberal.

When you use elementary school tactics when you are supposed to be an adult….must mean you’re a Liberal.

When you can’t ever say “You know, I’m wrong. You make a good point. You are right. Thanks for helping me change my mind”…must mean you’re a Liberal.

When you can’t apologize when you are wrong…must mean you are a Liberal.

ProfShadow on December 21, 2011 at 8:38 AM

Oh,
And one more:

When you read this list and say “that’s not true!” … must mean you’re a Liberal.

ProfShadow on December 21, 2011 at 8:51 AM

When you read this list and decide you are going to attack the poster personally … must mean you are a Liberal.

ProfShadow on December 21, 2011 at 8:52 AM

I may be wrong but I do believe that the House was the first to pass a payroll tax cut extension of the year long variety.

So what’s the problem?

crazywater on December 21, 2011 at 9:19 AM

We are now a typical welfare society, the parasites want the benefits of all their social programs but they don’t want to pay for any of them. Obama and his Marxist regime are about to destroy the will of this once great Republic. You’d better fight back people lest you lose it all.

rplat on December 21, 2011 at 9:42 AM

So all it takes is an extra $40 a month in paychecks (not for everybody) to give Obama a 50% approval rating?
That forgives everything, all of the damage this president has done to America.
The payoffs to his cronies, the trillions in debt, the dictatorial way he runs our country, betrayal of our allies, attacks on Chistianity, the threats to our gun rights/free speech, Fast and Furious.

I didn’t think it was possible to top the stupidity of the 2008 election.

bailey24 on December 21, 2011 at 10:07 AM

“Democrats are clearly on the high ground of reasonableness here,” Steve Schmidt, who helped run Senator John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign, said on MSNBC

Ok they are clearly HIGH, I don’t know about ground. Really 2 months and do it again…makes sense to NO ONE! But you go on vaca and have a great holiday while NO business or employee can count on anything given the Senates inability to deal with the Congress on any of the 22 bills sent to them for consideration.

Great job Demwits.

landowner on December 21, 2011 at 10:23 AM

If forced to make a quick review, the administration will just say there isn’t enough time in two months deny the Keystone permit. I applaud the House. This pipeline needs to happen.

Van124 on December 21, 2011 at 11:06 AM

The 2 percent holiday on the social security payroll tax holiday is a net zero for the employer. Withholding 2 percent less for FICA will cause net income for the employee to increase by the same 2 percent, for a net zero change. The 2 percent does not apply to the employers matching contribution. They still pay the full 6.2 percent regardless.

Dasher on December 21, 2011 at 12:45 PM

The House Republicans may be losing the public opinion battle in the near-term over this, but having so many Democrats going out of their way to support tax cuts may be a victory in the long run.

DeeKay on December 21, 2011 at 12:55 PM

This payroll tax cut is totally unfair to current soc sec recipients who have paid every penney the record says they’ve paid into the system throughout their earning years.

Now we have people who are getting credit for paying into the system, but pocketing the money instead.

Is that fair?

Hell no.

Wait ’til the middle-class old folks who are struggling like everyone else see what’s happening here.

MaggiePoo on December 21, 2011 at 1:16 PM

This is the classic DC ploy. House votes to pass a bill, Senate goes home, Obama blames everyone else. Perhaps Boehner and McConnell will shut down government next time Obama’s looking for money.

All of these arse clowns need to go.

DevilsPrinciple on December 21, 2011 at 1:28 PM

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