Obama to House GOP: You don’t really want the middle class’s payroll taxes to go up, do you?

posted at 4:05 pm on December 20, 2011 by Allahpundit

Alternate headline: “Only guy in America who’s enjoying this congressional clusterfark pretends like he wants it to end.” I got a kick out of Boehner’s new op-ed this afternoon calling on Obama to step in and lead the two sides to a deal because, really, why on earth would The One do that? He refused to dirty his hands with the far more consequential negotiations of the Super Committee because he wanted to preserve the “do-nothing Congress” meme as a campaign straw man for next year. If his campaign strategy mattered more to him than a grand bargain worth trillions in deficit reduction, it surely matters more than some ticky-tack standoff over the payroll tax. But don’t take my word for it:

The fraying of a deal to extend payroll-tax cuts and unemployment benefits gives President Obama a golden opportunity to tar House Republicans as the source of Washington’s dysfunction while championing a popular issue…

“It’s incredibly tricky ground,” said Lanae Erickson, deputy director of the Social Policy and Politics Program of the centrist Democratic group Third Way. But “there is an opportunity to capitalize on this and hang it around necks of Republicans,” she said. “I think the American people’s patience is wearing thin with the tea party, and they’re really tired of government being held hostage by them. This is just going to be another nail in that coffin.”

More from the Times:

But even some Republican strategists said Monday night that party leaders in the House had put their members in a very difficult position.

“Democrats are clearly on the high ground of reasonableness here,” Steve Schmidt, who helped run Senator John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign, said on MSNBC. “When you’re in a rock-throwing fight, you always want to be on the side that’s throwing the rocks downhill.”

He added: “It’s not a great fight for the Republicans.”

Gallup announced today that Congress’s approval hit a record low this month just as both WaPo and CNN are reporting O’s job approval is back near 50 percent, his best showing since the spring. I hope that’s a coincidence but I’m honestly not sure. From the CNN poll: “By a 50% to 31% margin, people questioned say they have more confidence in the president than in congressional Republicans to handle the major issues facing the country. Obama held a much narrower 44% to 39% margin in March.” Exit question: Chuck Schumer says the House GOP will end up caving and passing the Senate’s two-month extension. Is he right?


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Ron Paul now at 93% on Intrade?!?!?!!?!?

Eph on December 20, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Obama caring about taxes going up? What’s next, not playing the race card or the class warfare card?

they lie on December 20, 2011 at 4:09 PM

When conservative bloggers aren’t even pointing out that the GOP wants to extend the payroll tax for a year instead of punting the issue for another 2 months while leaving businesses and accountants scrambling, you know you’ve lost the fight.

Besides, the only thing that matters, is opinion polling.

Spliff Menendez on December 20, 2011 at 4:09 PM

I wish our side played to win.

Fezzik on December 20, 2011 at 4:10 PM

Chuck Schumer says the House GOP will end up caving and passing the Senate’s two-month extension. Is he right?

The smart money always bets the GOP will cave.

Always.

Bruno Strozek on December 20, 2011 at 4:10 PM

‘adult in the room’? What claptrap.
The only ‘payroll tax’ in abeyance is the SOLE source of funding for Social Security. You know, the fund that’s already bankrupt?
So how in the world does negating this tax for a month, two months, a YEAR actually HELP anything?

What’s needed is INCOME TAX abatement. And it’s a pathetica shame that both parties are too ignorant abut economics to grasp it. And that the GOP Leadership so busily negotiates on the Left’s terms.

rayra on December 20, 2011 at 4:10 PM

I don’t get it. Obama never asked for a two month extension. It’s clearly Reid who changed the terms. So why is nobody but Boehner asking why Obama won’t pressure Reid?

MayBee on December 20, 2011 at 4:11 PM

Ron Paul now at 93% on Intrade?!?!?!!?!?

Eph on December 20, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Like all stock bubbles, it will burst.

they lie on December 20, 2011 at 4:11 PM

Exit question: Chuck Schumer says the House GOP will end up caving and passing the Senate’s two-month extension. Is he right?

Of course he is! It’s what they f***ing do.

HerneTheHunter on December 20, 2011 at 4:11 PM

“Even though this is literally impossible to implement, I must keep up the appearances of demonizing my opponents.”

AshleyTKing on December 20, 2011 at 4:11 PM

And the GOP response should be – “Why do the Dems want taxes to go up in 2 months?”

dentarthurdent on December 20, 2011 at 4:11 PM

Ron Paul now at 93% on Intrade?!?!?!!?!?

Eph on December 20, 2011 at 4:09 PM

I’d sell. I don’t see how a guy who wants to abolish the CIA and who thinks Bradley Manning is a “patriot” and a “hero” is going to win the GOP nomination.

Fezzik on December 20, 2011 at 4:11 PM

Obama’s down to 50.8 on intrade. He was at 52 yesterday before all this “good news” for him came out. People betting on intrade can tell what’s a real poll and what isn’t….HINT: CNN and WAPO != real poll.

angryed on December 20, 2011 at 4:11 PM

I wish our side played to win showed up for the games.
 
Fezzik on December 20, 2011 at 4:10 PM

 
Mine.

rogerb on December 20, 2011 at 4:12 PM

“Like all stock bubbles, it will burst.”

No, I’m just trying to eeyore with the best of ‘em today

Eph on December 20, 2011 at 4:12 PM

have you noticed the more republicans fight Obama on this issue the higher his approval rating go up? I suggest Obama keep up this fight for at least another month till he hits 60% in the polls.

liberal4life on December 20, 2011 at 4:12 PM

“Obama’s down to 50.8 on intrade. ”

His support is going to RON PAUL the atheist!

Eph on December 20, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Yay! Year end kabuki. Kinda like the It’s a Wonderful Life tradition, except it has bad writing and a terrible cast….

MTLassen on December 20, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Republicans are purely idiotic.

Apologetic California on December 20, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Boehner acted stupidly.

by that, i mean, there is no upside to this for House Republicans. why not sign it, say “we got the pipeline”, and move on?

yes, 2 months extension is worthless to businesses and will not stimulate job growth. thats not the headline, though. did this guy forget who writes the headlines?

i dont see how he salvages this. hope he has a plan.

Coolidge_Conservative on December 20, 2011 at 4:13 PM

WTF, where are you people getting Ron Paul at 93%?

He’s at 45% to win Iowa. And he’s at 8.3% to win the whole thing.

angryed on December 20, 2011 at 4:14 PM

GOP leadership is a bunch of damned suckers.

Watched Cantor yesterday, he was utterly failing to respond directly to a series of questions in this area. Just spin and agenda and no damned substance. Nothing but POLITICS.
They’re so far up their own arses that they’ve lost all touch with what the actual point is. What the real America needs.

rayra on December 20, 2011 at 4:14 PM

Don’t knock it, Obama is winning the PR wars. The GOP acts like it’s ashamed of being the GOP and against President Socialist. This is no way to win, or to save the country.

PattyJ on December 20, 2011 at 4:14 PM

Besides, the only thing that matters, is opinion polling.

Spliff Menendez on December 20, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Agreed. It doesn’t matter what the point was or wasn’t. It’s been spun in the media. We lost the fight. With the current crop of non-communicators in our Republican midst, it won’t get any better.

Yes…AP…they will cave…it’s the only thing they can do at this point.

oldroy on December 20, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Again, for the millionth time. If the House GOP didn’t like the Senate bill, why did they pass it in the first place?

Apologetic California on December 20, 2011 at 4:16 PM

I’m with El Rushbo..The Republicans need to fight this “Payroll Tax Holiday ” gimmick period..Because it is causing an even BIGGER deficit in Social Security..:)

Dire Straits on December 20, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Don’t knock it, Obama is winning the PR wars. The GOP acts like it’s ashamed of being the GOP and against President Socialist. This is no way to win, or to save the country.

PattyJ on December 20, 2011 at 4:14 PM

Shhhhh. They’re busy compromising.

rayra on December 20, 2011 at 4:17 PM

Somebody told them it’s what ‘Statesmen’ do.

rayra on December 20, 2011 at 4:17 PM

have you noticed the more republicans fight Obama on this issue the higher his approval rating go up? I suggest Obama keep up this fight for at least another month till he hits 60% in the polls.

liberal4life on December 20, 2011 at 4:12 PM

LOL libbie.

Did you see the sample breakdown for the WaPo poll? D+12. And even so, Obama is below 50%.

angryed on December 20, 2011 at 4:17 PM

I can’t believe he has to keep explaining this to everyone.

If you don’t vote for a 2 month extension of the middle class tax cut, you are racist.

If you are holding out for a 1 year extension of the middle class tax cut. You are racist.

Figure it out people. The republicans are racist and want to tax the middle class no matter what they do.

The president deserves a smarter American public. We are unworthy.

Lily on December 20, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Boehner was great at his press conference. GOP wants to extend tax cut for one full year or $1000 and Dems want to give only 2 months or $166. In addition, the payroll services have already made clear the the 2 month deal is a cluster and unworkable.

Ta111 on December 20, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Yo, El Presidente Downgrade: Why do you want to defund people’s Social Security accounts?

Chip on December 20, 2011 at 4:19 PM

GALLUP APPROVAL:

12/10-12/2011 45
12/11-13/2011 43
12/12-14/2011 42
12/13-15/2011 41
12/14-17/2011 42
12/16-18/2011 42
12/17-19/2011 43

WOW!! OBAMA’S ON FIRE THIS WEEK!1

He went from 45% to 43%. Time to cave GOP.

angryed on December 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Yo, El Presidente Downgrade: Why do you want to defund people’s Social Security accounts?

Chip on December 20, 2011 at 4:19 PM

Bingo..Great question..:)

Dire Straits on December 20, 2011 at 4:20 PM

meh.

El_Terrible on December 20, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Again, for the millionth time. If the House GOP didn’t like the Senate bill, why did they pass it in the first place?

Apologetic California on December 20, 2011 at 4:16 PM

They didn’t pass it.

youngTXcon on December 20, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Again, for the millionth time. If the House GOP didn’t like the Senate bill, why did they pass it in the first place?

Apologetic California on December 20, 2011 at 4:16 PM

Because they didn’t? If they passed the same bill in the House, there would be no reason for a Conference Committee vote, or a compromise deal and the Joint Resolution would have gone directly to the Whitehouse.

MTLassen on December 20, 2011 at 4:22 PM

have you noticed the more republicans fight Obama on this issue the higher his approval rating go up? I suggest Obama keep up this fight for at least another month till he hits 60% in the polls.

liberal4life on December 20, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Or they could just up the samples to D+10 while polling adults.

Spliff Menendez on December 20, 2011 at 4:22 PM

Why is it okay when Dems gut entitlement programs, and why are we supposed to go along with whatever they want? If they want to gut Social Security, make it permanent or don’t do it at all.

El_Terrible on December 20, 2011 at 4:23 PM

This is nothing but nonsensical theatrics. A two month extension of the payroll tax freeze is blatantly stupid and Obama knows it. I’m not sure that he or any of the rest of those reason impaired politicians even understand what they are doing. As for the media, traditional and non-traditional . . . they’re lost in a thick fog without a compass or a map. The entire political and social climate in this country is absolutely disgusting and appears to be in the hands of hapless fools. I’m not sure it even matters who becomes the next president because they’re all hopelessly incompetent. If you feel a deep sense of discouragement and angst then you probably have an adequate understanding of what is going on around you.

rplat on December 20, 2011 at 4:23 PM

Obama is NOT a leader, nor was he ever the president of all the people, nor was he ever anything claimed to be.

What a childish pretender!

Anyone who falls for him deserves him and the destruction he brings.

Media, spontaneously combust for dereliction of duty.

Obama wants the two months extension, then another circus in two months, so he can bash the Rs, twice, milking all.

Obama is a sausage made by mixing Orwell, Machiavelli, Muenchhausen and Pinocchio.

Schadenfreude on December 20, 2011 at 4:23 PM

Again, for the millionth time. If the House GOP didn’t like the Senate bill, why did they pass it in the first place?

Apologetic California on December 20, 2011 at 4:16 PM

The House passed their own bill, then the Senate passed their own bill and now Dems want the House to choke on the Senate’s crap sandwich with no conference committee or merging of the two bills.

Spliff Menendez on December 20, 2011 at 4:24 PM

So Palin stalker, Poli Sci retard, professional fail, Steve Schmidt is the “brains” behind the undoable Social Security Insurance Premium cut of two months?

And while we’re writing those words that normally spell post fail

More from the Times:

Maybe there’s a dumb@$$ reader of the NY Times can explain how this two month cut is to be implemented, as it’s x% of the first $y, thereby not being subjected to month to month adjustments.

Three posts now…and I’m still waiting for an explanation.

MNHawk on December 20, 2011 at 4:24 PM

I don’t get why people seem to think the democrats will “win” this argument. If they plan to extend the tax “break” for 8 months after the 2-month window, why not just pass it for a year now? I really hate them.

SouthernGent on December 20, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Obama hates Social Security.

Schadenfreude on December 20, 2011 at 4:26 PM

liberal4life on December 20, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Maybe this leftist piece of garbage can state how this tax is to be implemented. You certainly seem to have invested much of your very being into spamming threads how great it is. As usual, for leftist pieces of garbage, you pretty much fail at details of implementation.

Go for it, sport!

MNHawk on December 20, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Ta111 on December 20, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Boehner told Harry Reid before the Senate vote that his caucus would not go for less than a year.

Harry called his bluff. And the irony is that the House plan is closest to what Obama wanted (except for the pipeline).

BigAlSouth on December 20, 2011 at 4:29 PM

liberal4life on December 20, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Fools are indignant. You and yours deserve full destruction by Obama.

Schadenfreude on December 20, 2011 at 4:29 PM

centrist Democratic group Third Way

very dishonest..centrist Democratic is an oxymoron

i looked at their ‘trustees’…amazing view into the heart of the progressive/wall street nexus. Big bucks.

http://thirdway.org/trustees

a Dem is a leftist…a Wall Street Dem is banking on getting a lot of privilege from the taxpayers

and Steve Schmidt…the left’s favorite “Republican”
the Obama machine is grinding away…

r keller on December 20, 2011 at 4:30 PM

liberal4life on December 20, 2011 at 4:12 PM

crr6 used her brain, now and then. You don’t.

Schadenfreude on December 20, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Red Herring. No, Dumbo, what we want is an END to SPENDING that is not PAID FOR. What we want is to take the scissors to the National Platinum Visa card.

What was all that malarky you said a while back about supporting the “Pay Go” philosophy? Payroll taxes PAY for Social Security (etc.) — and even then, they aren’t even close to being adequate to cover outlays.

You are a liar, a deceiver, and a knave, Mr. President.

Mark Levin had you pegged from the git go. You are a trained & devoted Alinksyite.

You want to shrink the Middle Class, while increasing the Dependent Class, and, of course, protecting your own Elite Liberal Millionaire Class.

And to accomplish that, you pretend to care about us and blame others for the outcomes of malicious policies that you and your greasy cronies foisted upon us in the first place.

minnesoter on December 20, 2011 at 4:30 PM

If you feel a deep sense of discouragement and angst then you probably have an adequate understanding of what is going on around you.

rplat on December 20, 2011 at 4:23 PM

You’ve been reading my diary……

oldroy on December 20, 2011 at 4:30 PM

OTOH, I do like the brinkmanship. Obama can b*tch and moan, but since the House rejected the passage. Well, taxes will rise under his watch and he look impotent. The Left already doesn’t want the tax cuts since it impacts Social Security.

Apologetic California on December 20, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Libbie:

Tell me more about the 60% approval rate.

Gallup has him at 43% today. He was at 45% a week ago.

This is called unbiased polling. Something WaPo and CNN don’t know about. When WaPo has a D+12 sample Obama will be looking good. Too bad for you the electorate is more like more or less even these days.

angryed on December 20, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Seriously. The GOP can’t strategize their way out of a paper bag.
They’re so bogged down in counterpunch Tactics that they’ve utterly lost any capacity for Strategy. Or any clarity of vision.
Trapped in their Beltway Bubble of space-time, heads up their assess.
They stumble from one Progressive-framed issue to another. Letting the Senate set the agenda on fiscal legislation.
It’s NOT supposed to work that way. Fiscal legislation is supposed to ORIGINATE in the House. This ‘leadership’ is so lame it is letting the White House and the Senate set their agenda. WTF good is control of the House if they will not exercise it?

This, the same pathetic party that has little interest in winning the Presidency if it means not using a non- progressive RINO candidate. A party with such a profound lack of vision that they thinking chipping away a couple seats in each house is a sufficient ‘win’. Whose only proximate goal is the wresting of committee chairmanships and more treasure to loot.

The GOP needs a spine, so they can stand upright. Stand for what is right.

rayra on December 20, 2011 at 4:34 PM

I can’t see how the Republicans can blow this!

All they have to say is “we passed an extension of unemployment and continued the SS tax cut for 1 year. The Senate Democrats want to cut the tax break back to 60 days and we said no, the American worker needs 1 year.”

huckleberryfriend on December 20, 2011 at 4:34 PM

The whole deal is only about vote buying. Its wrong when either side does it. When do we elect grown ups?

MechanicalBill on December 20, 2011 at 4:34 PM

Let’s see…the President has pretty much announced his re-election strategy is to run against a do-nothing Congress…and the Republicans decide the best thing to do in response is…to do nothing…

blue13326 on December 20, 2011 at 4:34 PM

crr6 used her brain, now and then. You don’t.

Schadenfreude on December 20, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Those were the days. When trolls could actually hold a cogent thought. This new crop of trolls, pathetic.

Even Ernie could post something somewhat meaningful every now and then. God, I never thought I’d see the day when I pined for Ernie and crr6. As the song goes, you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone.

angryed on December 20, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Of course Obama is more popular in the polls than congressional people. Most of the people in congress are people you hqve never vpted for after all, while 52% americans voted for obama last time. Congressional polls versus the president are usually always meaningless because of this

Flapjackmaka on December 20, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Yes, everyone hates congress but they love their congressman.

MechanicalBill on December 20, 2011 at 4:40 PM

Obama is lying when he says taxes will go up by a “thousand dollars”. Time for Boehner to call him on this shameless prevarication. It will only be ‘thousands of dollars’ if they extend it for a year – as the House GOP desires. At best a 2 month extension (even if it could be logistically arranged) will amount to a few hundred dollars for the typical “middle class” taxpayer.

Buy Danish on December 20, 2011 at 4:40 PM

Obama to House GOP: You don’t really want the middle class’s payroll taxes to go up, do you?

US Voter to President Obama : “You really are not trying to bankrupt Social Security, are you Mr. President?”

Skandia Recluse on December 20, 2011 at 4:40 PM

Bush, at his lowest, was more popular than Congress.

SouthernGent on December 20, 2011 at 4:40 PM

Heavily skewed polls oversampling Democrats and Independents from two of his most partisan house organs show Obama is gaining momentum. Yawn.

Here’s a thought for Republicans: instead of reacting to a phony narrative and voting defensively, why not do a much better job of getting your messaging right and controlling the narrative?

fitzfong on December 20, 2011 at 4:40 PM

I know how we could save $4 million over the next couple of weeks…but no…Oh! the ice cream.

d1carter on December 20, 2011 at 4:42 PM

What the Republicans should do is demand Keystone XL is built right now. Then abolish the social security tax and offset it with new ‘revenue’ that will result from Keystone XL (The Pipe would be renamed the “Don’t Push Grandma Off a Cliff XL”).

CorporatePiggy on December 20, 2011 at 4:43 PM

At best a 2 month extension (even if it could be logistically arranged) will amount to a few hundred dollars for the typical “middle class” taxpayer.

Buy Danish on December 20, 2011 at 4:40 PM

And as we were told repeatedly in 2001, $300 is nothing.

$300 per person was the amount of the tax rebate check Bush sent out in 2001. Democrats mocked it as barely enough for a nice dinner.

angryed on December 20, 2011 at 4:45 PM

The problem is they originally complained about cost and were beaten, now they’re trying to act sane, but its too late.

Zaggs on December 20, 2011 at 4:45 PM

have you noticed the more republicans fight Obama on this issue the higher his approval rating go up? I suggest Obama keep up this fight for at least another month till he hits 60% in the polls.

liberal4life on December 20, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

I can picture you as a nice potted plant.

Roy Rogers on December 20, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Armchair Quarterback in Chief accuses GOP of doing nothing while Democrats have refused to pass a budget in almost three years. Good luck with that.

RadClown on December 20, 2011 at 4:46 PM

As most of us know by now (exempting Democrats who are usually clueless), roughly half of the citizens in this country do not pay federal income tax. Some actually get federal income tax instead. But most of those who don’t pay that tax do pay FICA, the Social Security tax. Now Obama wants to make sure that FICA tax cuts remain in place, meaning his base, the governmentally dependent, pay even less to the federal coffers, while he proposes a tax surcharge on the “rich.” In other words, he wants more income redistribution so that even more of our citizens live off of other citizens. As it stands, the Senate version “pays” for the continuation of the tax cut by putting a surcharge on the loan guarantee fee that Freddie and Fannie charge, meaning the funds will go to help bail them out instead of going to the treasury. The House “pays” for it by spending cuts. Why not restore the old FICA rates, since SS is underfunded anyway, and give the middle class a federal income tax offset? What’s wrong with Republicans these days?

NNtrancer on December 20, 2011 at 4:47 PM

“Like all stock bubbles, it will burst.”

No, I’m just trying to eeyore with the best of ‘em today

Eph on December 20, 2011 at 4:12 PM

December 21, 2012 can not get here fast enough.

RickB on December 20, 2011 at 4:49 PM

So, because of this vote, Independents are going to run to the Democrat Party?!
Not bloody likely…

mjbrooks3 on December 20, 2011 at 4:50 PM

Republicans are stupid, Democrats are evil.

I figured it out.

DHChron on December 20, 2011 at 4:52 PM

What bothers me about this situation is that nobody is calling it what this is – you’re getting a ‘holiday’ on paying into a social security system that’s already – at best – teetering on collapse and insolvency.

Why wouldn’t the GOP be the adults in the room here and call it like it is:

* The payroll tax holiday – either the size of the holiday (%) or the time length (one year only) – did not work, so lets not double down on the failure by extending it.
* Keeping the ‘holiday’ only saps Social Security of however many hundreds of millions or billions in funds, leading to a higher deficit.
* It’s taking a tiny raise now to force the country to borrow more to service social security and nobble yourself 20 or 30 years from now on your own SS payouts.

Call it the pup that it is, let it expire, and propose and pass something more substantial, more conservative and better in the House.

dogcowzz on December 20, 2011 at 4:54 PM

…Steve Schmidt, who helped run Senator John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign…

Aren’t these credentials similar to the navigation credentials of the skipper of the Titanic???

Why would anyone listen to a proven failure??

landlines on December 20, 2011 at 4:56 PM

I can picture you as a nice potted plant.

Roy Rogers on December 20, 2011 at 4:45 PM

I was thinking more like a field of mushrooms. Kept in the dark and living on bull$h!t.

Lily on December 20, 2011 at 4:57 PM

Chuck Schumer says the House GOP will end up caving and passing the Senate’s two-month extension. Is he right?

It has always amazed me that ever since setting foot in the Senate, Chuck U has been taken so seriously by media outlets, considering his strongly held partisan views.

I mean, Republican Senators only get taken seriously by being non-partisan. And the good news is that most R senators are not being taken very seriously right now.

rwenger43 on December 20, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Aren’t these credentials similar to the navigation credentials of the skipper of the Titanic???

Why would anyone listen to a proven failure??

landlines on December 20, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Umm, because his intentions were good?

rwenger43 on December 20, 2011 at 5:03 PM

His support is going to RON PAUL the atheist!

Eph on December 20, 2011 at 4:13 PM

He’s pro-life and I think Christian.

FloatingRock on December 20, 2011 at 5:04 PM

the payroll services have already made clear the the 2 month deal is a cluster and unworkable.

Ta111 on December 20, 2011 at 4:18 PM

“Dang payroll services are all raaaacist!”

rwenger43 on December 20, 2011 at 5:09 PM

We need to put a diaper on Jugears, and take the pacifiers out of the Republican mouths!
So tired, of that @$$hole and his diarrhea mouth!

KOOLAID2 on December 20, 2011 at 5:11 PM

…Steve Schmidt, who helped run Senator John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign…

Why link to the NYT that quotes a losing left-moderate candidate’s expertise? It doesn’t even raise to the level of square root of a community organizer does it?

DanMan on December 20, 2011 at 5:14 PM

Fighting over money that is nothing but a IOU. Once the money is sent to Washington it was already spent in 2006 and the money now goes to pay the interest on that loan. SS will still be broke if they keep the cut for 4 years or pay it times 10.

tjexcite on December 20, 2011 at 5:15 PM

I wish our side played to win.

Fezzik on December 20, 2011 at 4:10 PM

If we played to win, it would go something like:

“Hey Mitt, Newt, Michele, you two Ricks.. and for chrisakes Ron Paul and Benjamin, you’re all out. Sit down over there and shut the hell up. You’re embarrassing us all.

Sarah, you’re in. We’ll back you 100%. What do you need from us?”

… but that won’t be happening anytime soon.

rightConcept on December 20, 2011 at 5:17 PM

landlines on December 20, 2011 at 4:56 PM

absolutely! Why all of a sudden is he the voice of wisdom? Schmidt has absolutely no credibility except with RINOs and Dhimms.

red131 on December 20, 2011 at 5:17 PM

If the GOP can’t win this messaging skirmish, they deserve to lose.

Purple Fury on December 20, 2011 at 5:23 PM

From Philip Klein on Twitter:

RT @daveweigel: RT @StevenTDennis: If you think this endgame is bad, just wait til next year, when Bush tax cuts, sequestration et al hit
5:23 PM Tue Dec 20 2011 · TweetDeck

Purple Fury on December 20, 2011 at 5:29 PM

I’d sell. I don’t see how a guy who wants to abolish the CIA and who thinks Bradley Manning is a “patriot” and a “hero” is going to win the GOP nomination.

Fezzik on December 20, 2011 at 4:11 PM

That’s Breanna to you!

disa on December 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Some newbie crackhead HA poster will be along any moment now (you know who you are) to suggest that the GOP is messing up big time by not ‘working with’ Obama.

Midas on December 20, 2011 at 5:32 PM

I’ve spent the afternoon listening to liberals calling into talk radio, and it’s quite disheartening, let me tell you.

I don’t know if we can save the country at this point. Let them all ride their social media into hell, like so many Fools at the precipice.

disa on December 20, 2011 at 5:35 PM

Obama is a sausage made by mixing Orwell, Machiavelli, Muenchhausen and Pinocchio.

Schadenfreude on December 20, 2011 at 4:23 PM

ROFLMAO! :)

sicoit on December 20, 2011 at 5:37 PM

From the CNN poll: “By a 50% to 31% margin, people questioned say they have more confidence in the president than in congressional Republicans to handle the major issues facing the country.

Sure CNN. Sure. You’re polls are about as reliable as those from WaPo/ABC.

How’s the holiday Kool Aid?

GarandFan on December 20, 2011 at 5:38 PM

How come we couldn’t have this gridlock in place before all of the spending and implementation of Socialist programs?

Now it’s probably too late.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 20, 2011 at 5:41 PM

These tools in D.C. are so detached from the real world that no one has given two seconds’ worth of consideration to whether this two-month extension can actually be programmed into payroll software (hint: it can’t be done in time to be sure it will work).

natasha333 on December 20, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Did the GOP try to play too clever here with Keystone? It appears Obama and Reid may have outfoxed them with the two month extension. Maybe the GOP should just play it straight in future and stick to taxes and spending. Let the Dems play their stupid games. They would nix the tax cut just so the GOP will get the blame which shows their desperation. The GOP will never be as devious or cynical and probably shouldn’t try.

breffnian on December 20, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Even Ernie could post something somewhat meaningful every now and then. God, I never thought I’d see the day when I pined for Ernie and crr6. As the song goes, you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone.

angryed on December 20, 2011 at 4:36 PM

I actually agreed with our old trolling friend, dave rywall, the other day concerning North Korea and Il. I even qued the twilight zone music… he was civil!

upinak on December 20, 2011 at 5:49 PM

I have actually been watching CSpan and although there is hardly anyone left on the floor, freshman Rep Woodall from Georgia is very fired up. He is feeling very disturbed by the whole process and is trying to explain why the Repubs did what they did. He has been on the floor for a long time and basically is laying out the dems, using poster board and quotes from the dems and pres. He is very passionate, FRUSTRATED and quite impressive. Maybe I am naive, but I strongly feel that as long as there are speeches, the entire body should have to stay especially when the matter is as important as this. Right after the vote, when they were allowing the reps to make their self important speeches, on several occasions had to ask people to be quiet, and that is not unusual. Aside from Barneys boobs, I find the lack of formality and respect in the People’s House these days very disturbing.

FLconservative on December 20, 2011 at 5:49 PM

How come we couldn’t have this gridlock in place before all of the spending and implementation of Socialist programs?

Now it’s probably too late.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 20, 2011 at 5:41 PM

~~THIS~~. I’m not giving up. But this hits the nail on the head. The repubs in both the House and Senate seem to be sitting with their proverbial thumbs up their arses and continuing the whine “but we must get along” WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! NO.WE.DON’T.! Somebody up there needs to start a fight and needs to start it N.O.W.!
P.S. I don’t believe any of these stupid polls. Nothing to break it down and prove their numbers. Pfffffttttt. A pox on the lot of them!

sicoit on December 20, 2011 at 5:50 PM

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