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	<title>Comments on: Cantor to Reid: Call the Senate back to address the payroll tax cut</title>
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		<title>By: John W Stevenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W Stevenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not make a specific substantive comment on the issue of the 2 month tax cut or whatever TF it is because it will not help salvage and save America and as whatever TF it is it is chickenshit.

I do repost a related comment I made on  Facebook where my Profile Page is in the same name as here John W Stevenson [with edition/addition]:

*

August 16 2011

It seems to me:

Congressman Eric Cantor [The House Republican Majority Leader although not The Speaker] is the only public official presently on stage who my basic gut feelings and instincts tell me would effectively handle the Office of President of the United States of America

John W Stevenson 

www.johnwstevenson.com

www.johnwstevensonforpresident.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not make a specific substantive comment on the issue of the 2 month tax cut or whatever TF it is because it will not help salvage and save America and as whatever TF it is it is chickenshit.</p>
<p>I do repost a related comment I made on  Facebook where my Profile Page is in the same name as here John W Stevenson [with edition/addition]:</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>August 16 2011</p>
<p>It seems to me:</p>
<p>Congressman Eric Cantor [The House Republican Majority Leader although not The Speaker] is the only public official presently on stage who my basic gut feelings and instincts tell me would effectively handle the Office of President of the United States of America</p>
<p>John W Stevenson </p>
<p><a href="http://www.johnwstevenson.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.johnwstevenson.com</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.johnwstevensonforpresident.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.johnwstevensonforpresident.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: rjulio</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjulio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Come November no one will remember any of this.  Kill the tax cut and move on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come November no one will remember any of this.  Kill the tax cut and move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Magnus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Magnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tina:
&lt;blockquote&gt;But here’s the problem: Whether it’s for two months or a year, a payroll tax cut extension is &lt;em&gt;bad policy&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Amen. End of story.
~(Ä)~]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tina:</p>
<blockquote><p>But here’s the problem: Whether it’s for two months or a year, a payroll tax cut extension is <em>bad policy</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Amen. End of story.<br />
~(Ä)~</p>
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		<title>By: HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER, Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) Goes on TV to Shift Blame for His Screw-Up on Handling Tax Extension &#124; GoodOleWoody&#039;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER, Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) Goes on TV to Shift Blame for His Screw-Up on Handling Tax Extension &#124; GoodOleWoody&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Theophile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 06:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;above all, to remember that the spiritual has primacy over the material, not the other way around.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Amen. 


&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m still amazed that the GOP, and GOP senators in particular, aren’t hammering the Dems over the Senate not putting forth a budget in almost 1,000 days now – and counting?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exactly! When does the 1,000 day milestone hit anyways?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>above all, to remember that the spiritual has primacy over the material, not the other way around.</p></blockquote>
<p>Amen. </p>
<blockquote><p>I’m still amazed that the GOP, and GOP senators in particular, aren’t hammering the Dems over the Senate not putting forth a budget in almost 1,000 days now – and counting?</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly! When does the 1,000 day milestone hit anyways?</p>
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		<title>By: John_W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John_W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 04:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes the tax cut is bad policy, it takes money from a system that does need it (we can&#039;t reform it overnight) and dribbles it out at such a piddling pace that nobody is going to use it buy a &#039;big ticket&#039; item, that might, just might spur some demand in the economy.  But it&#039;s the only &#039;tax cut&#039; that Obama can think of that benefits the bottom 47% where his base lies.  But on the other hand, looking at the history of policies that have come out of the legislative branch since the Dems took power in 2008, this almost looks like good policy.  
Choose your poison, a year long extension, dubious at best at offering any net benefit, or a 2-mos. extension that is (1) unworkable and (2) probably do more damage in trying to implement?  You&#039;re going to get pummelled either way, you might as well get the Keystone Pipeline (or the propaganda against those who tie it up in court, and street cred for pushing it that far) and get the full year extension (of political value only).  
The way I see it, the Republicans only lose if they blink first.  Get the Senate back in DC the week after Christmas (or tomorrow!) and face them down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the tax cut is bad policy, it takes money from a system that does need it (we can&#8217;t reform it overnight) and dribbles it out at such a piddling pace that nobody is going to use it buy a &#8216;big ticket&#8217; item, that might, just might spur some demand in the economy.  But it&#8217;s the only &#8216;tax cut&#8217; that Obama can think of that benefits the bottom 47% where his base lies.  But on the other hand, looking at the history of policies that have come out of the legislative branch since the Dems took power in 2008, this almost looks like good policy.<br />
Choose your poison, a year long extension, dubious at best at offering any net benefit, or a 2-mos. extension that is (1) unworkable and (2) probably do more damage in trying to implement?  You&#8217;re going to get pummelled either way, you might as well get the Keystone Pipeline (or the propaganda against those who tie it up in court, and street cred for pushing it that far) and get the full year extension (of political value only).<br />
The way I see it, the Republicans only lose if they blink first.  Get the Senate back in DC the week after Christmas (or tomorrow!) and face them down.</p>
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		<title>By: racquetballer</title>
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		<dc:creator>racquetballer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 04:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nonononono, don&#039;t come back EVER!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nonononono, don&#8217;t come back EVER!</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernGent</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernGent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 02:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monica Crowley is in a roll subbing in for Hannity.  Wow!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monica Crowley is in a roll subbing in for Hannity.  Wow!</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernGent</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernGent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why isn&#039;t Mitch McConnell, the fearless minority leader in the Senate, say this instead of some &quot;lowly&quot; member of the House!?!?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why isn&#8217;t Mitch McConnell, the fearless minority leader in the Senate, say this instead of some &#8220;lowly&#8221; member of the House!?!?</p>
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		<title>By: D-fusit</title>
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		<dc:creator>D-fusit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Harry, how&#039;s that budget coming. Total A$$hole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Harry, how&#8217;s that budget coming. Total A$$hole.</p>
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		<title>By: KOOLAID2</title>
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		<dc:creator>KOOLAID2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I won&#039;t go to Nevada until that mortician is out of office! (No offense to those who fix up the dead)
Cantor! Stamp our feet, yell bully and cave in...nothing new...nothing to see...move along.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t go to Nevada until that mortician is out of office! (No offense to those who fix up the dead)<br />
Cantor! Stamp our feet, yell bully and cave in&#8230;nothing new&#8230;nothing to see&#8230;move along.</p>
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		<title>By: PappyD61</title>
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		<dc:creator>PappyD61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;I figured out a way to show my disgust with the GOP leadership in Congress.&lt;/strong&gt;


Just imagine a loud beep going off covering up all the expletives..


Beeeeppppp__________________________________________________________________________________________________________and they also didn&#039;t do __________________________________________but they could have stood up to Obama but they __________shinola_______________________________________________________.


How did I do?  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I figured out a way to show my disgust with the GOP leadership in Congress.</strong></p>
<p>Just imagine a loud beep going off covering up all the expletives..</p>
<p>Beeeeppppp__________________________________________________________________________________________________________and they also didn&#8217;t do __________________________________________but they could have stood up to Obama but they __________shinola_______________________________________________________.</p>
<p>How did I do?  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: ProfShadow</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProfShadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heck, Harry could keep B.O. from doing any recess appointments by getting his asterisk back to D.C. and actually doing what he&#039;s supposedly paid to do as a Senator.


Oh wait, I am talking about a Democrat...sorry...so sorry...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heck, Harry could keep B.O. from doing any recess appointments by getting his asterisk back to D.C. and actually doing what he&#8217;s supposedly paid to do as a Senator.</p>
<p>Oh wait, I am talking about a Democrat&#8230;sorry&#8230;so sorry&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Midas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Unfortunately, we have nobody to blame for this phenomenon but ourselves. As Ann Coulter has put it, the problem is not with politicians. It’s that we, the people, want our treats. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, bullsqueeze.

*Some* people may want that, but don&#039;t adopt an inane version of &quot;people don&#039;t kill people, guns kill people&quot; here.  WTF exactly are you thinking when you say the politicians aren&#039;t the problem?  Yes, I know there are countless and too many sheeple out here who fit your narrative, but there&#039;s a shatload of us who *don&#039;t*, and I&#039;m a bit tired of nincompoops lumping everyone together with that kind of nonsense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Unfortunately, we have nobody to blame for this phenomenon but ourselves. As Ann Coulter has put it, the problem is not with politicians. It’s that we, the people, want our treats. </p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, bullsqueeze.</p>
<p>*Some* people may want that, but don&#8217;t adopt an inane version of &#8220;people don&#8217;t kill people, guns kill people&#8221; here.  WTF exactly are you thinking when you say the politicians aren&#8217;t the problem?  Yes, I know there are countless and too many sheeple out here who fit your narrative, but there&#8217;s a shatload of us who *don&#8217;t*, and I&#8217;m a bit tired of nincompoops lumping everyone together with that kind of nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: waterytart</title>
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		<dc:creator>waterytart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Voting...........every 2 years I need to renew my medical license.  And I have to have a certain amount of &quot;continuing education&quot; to qualify......... I have no problem jumping through hoops to maintain the requirements that deem me worthy of affecting people&#039;s lives. But I cringe when I think about the votes of the idiots that have control over my life. Sorry.  Not advocating &quot;continuing ed&quot; for voting rights.  However, since our educational system isn&#039;t teaching them the rudiments, maybe it&#039;s not such a stretch after all.......More wine Gromit......  Been a long day and pontificating relieves the stress..:-}]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voting&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..every 2 years I need to renew my medical license.  And I have to have a certain amount of &#8220;continuing education&#8221; to qualify&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; I have no problem jumping through hoops to maintain the requirements that deem me worthy of affecting people&#8217;s lives. But I cringe when I think about the votes of the idiots that have control over my life. Sorry.  Not advocating &#8220;continuing ed&#8221; for voting rights.  However, since our educational system isn&#8217;t teaching them the rudiments, maybe it&#8217;s not such a stretch after all&#8230;&#8230;.More wine Gromit&#8230;&#8230;  Been a long day and pontificating relieves the stress..:-}</p>
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		<title>By: r keller</title>
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		<dc:creator>r keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;But as negotiations played out, Obama and Democrats came to their senses: They realized they wouldn’t lose the environmentalist vote if they approved Keystone. (What? Would enviros ever really vote Republican?) So they agreed to Keystone (and to spending offsets other than a surtax on millionaires) in exchange for the payroll tax cut. But, oddly, they negotiated a two-month tax cut instead of a yearlong cut. And, yes, by “they” I mean Democrats. In hindsight, it appears the two-month time frame was for the benefit of Democrats, not Republicans.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

i think you are not quite cynical enough Tina.  Barry threatened to veto.  Ok, so he and Reid got together to figure out how to get a pound of flesh from the Rs.  So &quot;give&quot; them the pipeline, but wrap it in a poison pill...two months, rather than a year.

Now the House says yes to 2 months, and get pounded by the press/obama campaign for being grinches...or Rs say NO and then they get pounded by the press/Obama campaign for being..well, Grinches.

Plus..extra bonus for barry, Chaos at Christmas...one of barry&#039;s campaign points.

Obama 3, Rs 0

As far as the American people go...well, that&#039;s the tragedy....but 100 years of leftist sloganeering has consequences.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But as negotiations played out, Obama and Democrats came to their senses: They realized they wouldn’t lose the environmentalist vote if they approved Keystone. (What? Would enviros ever really vote Republican?) So they agreed to Keystone (and to spending offsets other than a surtax on millionaires) in exchange for the payroll tax cut. But, oddly, they negotiated a two-month tax cut instead of a yearlong cut. And, yes, by “they” I mean Democrats. In hindsight, it appears the two-month time frame was for the benefit of Democrats, not Republicans.</p></blockquote>
<p>i think you are not quite cynical enough Tina.  Barry threatened to veto.  Ok, so he and Reid got together to figure out how to get a pound of flesh from the Rs.  So &#8220;give&#8221; them the pipeline, but wrap it in a poison pill&#8230;two months, rather than a year.</p>
<p>Now the House says yes to 2 months, and get pounded by the press/obama campaign for being grinches&#8230;or Rs say NO and then they get pounded by the press/Obama campaign for being..well, Grinches.</p>
<p>Plus..extra bonus for barry, Chaos at Christmas&#8230;one of barry&#8217;s campaign points.</p>
<p>Obama 3, Rs 0</p>
<p>As far as the American people go&#8230;well, that&#8217;s the tragedy&#8230;.but 100 years of leftist sloganeering has consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: SubDoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>SubDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m still amazed that the GOP, and GOP senators in particular, aren&#039;t hammering the Dems over the Senate not putting forth a budget in almost 1,000 days now - and counting?

What is so difficult in going before every public venue possible AND on the Senate floor, demanding a budget? That is EXACTLY what the Dems would be doing if this were a GOP controlled Senate.

And why haven&#039;t the GOP candidates jumped all over this, AND Eric Holder, AND how many bills forwarded from the House are waiting for action?

If we lose the next election - it&#039;s our OWN fault! So many lost opportunities!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still amazed that the GOP, and GOP senators in particular, aren&#8217;t hammering the Dems over the Senate not putting forth a budget in almost 1,000 days now &#8211; and counting?</p>
<p>What is so difficult in going before every public venue possible AND on the Senate floor, demanding a budget? That is EXACTLY what the Dems would be doing if this were a GOP controlled Senate.</p>
<p>And why haven&#8217;t the GOP candidates jumped all over this, AND Eric Holder, AND how many bills forwarded from the House are waiting for action?</p>
<p>If we lose the next election &#8211; it&#8217;s our OWN fault! So many lost opportunities!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul_W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul_W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Hey! Its my money, I&#039;d like to keep it, OK?&lt;/strong&gt;
A whole lot of good it will do to have me pay more to the gov&#039;mt. T.E.A!  

&lt;strong&gt;CUT SOMETHING DAMMIT!&lt;/strong&gt;

They should have stuck to their guns and not passed the previous budget extension, STUPID REPUBLICANS.  O what a predictably great job the stupid committee did. STUPID!  I give them a 0% job approval rating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Hey! Its my money, I&#8217;d like to keep it, OK?</strong><br />
A whole lot of good it will do to have me pay more to the gov&#8217;mt. T.E.A!  </p>
<p><strong>CUT SOMETHING DAMMIT!</strong></p>
<p>They should have stuck to their guns and not passed the previous budget extension, STUPID REPUBLICANS.  O what a predictably great job the stupid committee did. STUPID!  I give them a 0% job approval rating.</p>
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		<title>By: DanMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The cut in revenue to the Social Security fund expands the already-significant deficit between revenues and benefit payments in SSA, which means that more money has to come out of the general fund to cover the gap — and that means more deficit spending.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  

whoa!!  Last August when Obama threatened to cut the SS checks it was shown that at that time SS took in about $55 billion/month more than it sent out.  Could the repubs be trying to lower revenue to the general fund?

I don&#039;t like blowing a hole in the social security funding mechanism UNLESS it is not being used for SS.  Under that scenario cut away because they are not setting it aside.

If SS is currently at deficit and the dems want to maintain that then we have a whopper of a talking point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The cut in revenue to the Social Security fund expands the already-significant deficit between revenues and benefit payments in SSA, which means that more money has to come out of the general fund to cover the gap — and that means more deficit spending.</p></blockquote>
<p>whoa!!  Last August when Obama threatened to cut the SS checks it was shown that at that time SS took in about $55 billion/month more than it sent out.  Could the repubs be trying to lower revenue to the general fund?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like blowing a hole in the social security funding mechanism UNLESS it is not being used for SS.  Under that scenario cut away because they are not setting it aside.</p>
<p>If SS is currently at deficit and the dems want to maintain that then we have a whopper of a talking point.</p>
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		<title>By: Skandia Recluse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skandia Recluse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alright! Look at this :

&lt;em&gt;Obama gets everything he wants&lt;/em&gt;

Obama refuses to build the pipeline, says it is environmentally unsound.

Obama hammers the GOP for raising taxes on the middle class (union labor)

Obama gets the tax cut in FICA which is paid by labor.

Obama gets the GOP all in a lather, all screwed up, all discombobulated not knowing what the heII is going on.

Obama gets the news media hammering the GOP

Obama gets to explain how he is the champion for the working man, cutting their taxes, and making those evil rich pay for the poor working mans Social Security Retirement, because Obama has reduced the amount the working man pays into the fund without reducing the benefit. 

Obama continues to spend money we don&#039;t have. No one seems able to stop him. The Senate Democrats are invisible, it&#039;s all the fault of the evil GOP. The Senate Democrats changed the deal with the House and went home, and it&#039;s the fault of the House the bill doesn&#039;t pass. 

I say to the House. Shut down, turn off the lights and go home. (and don&#039;t bother coming back in January, just let the democrats run things. Just stay home, you are not needed in Washington, you are not getting anything done, you are getting all the blame, just stay home, let the democrats run the government for the next year because you clearly have no idea what is going on in Washington.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright! Look at this :</p>
<p><em>Obama gets everything he wants</em></p>
<p>Obama refuses to build the pipeline, says it is environmentally unsound.</p>
<p>Obama hammers the GOP for raising taxes on the middle class (union labor)</p>
<p>Obama gets the tax cut in FICA which is paid by labor.</p>
<p>Obama gets the GOP all in a lather, all screwed up, all discombobulated not knowing what the heII is going on.</p>
<p>Obama gets the news media hammering the GOP</p>
<p>Obama gets to explain how he is the champion for the working man, cutting their taxes, and making those evil rich pay for the poor working mans Social Security Retirement, because Obama has reduced the amount the working man pays into the fund without reducing the benefit. </p>
<p>Obama continues to spend money we don&#8217;t have. No one seems able to stop him. The Senate Democrats are invisible, it&#8217;s all the fault of the evil GOP. The Senate Democrats changed the deal with the House and went home, and it&#8217;s the fault of the House the bill doesn&#8217;t pass. </p>
<p>I say to the House. Shut down, turn off the lights and go home. (and don&#8217;t bother coming back in January, just let the democrats run things. Just stay home, you are not needed in Washington, you are not getting anything done, you are getting all the blame, just stay home, let the democrats run the government for the next year because you clearly have no idea what is going on in Washington.)</p>
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		<title>By: Charlemagne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlemagne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right about the solution not being in Washington. 

Allow me to share a&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/derkrieger/2011/12/19/federalism-and-the-end-of-tyranny/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; diary from RedState&lt;/a&gt; that I think is what we need to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right about the solution not being in Washington. </p>
<p>Allow me to share a<a href="http://www.redstate.com/derkrieger/2011/12/19/federalism-and-the-end-of-tyranny/" rel="nofollow"> diary from RedState</a> that I think is what we need to do.</p>
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		<title>By: RedCrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedCrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;rjoco1 on December 20, 2011 at 6:34 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah. You&#039;re correct, of course.
But I think that you&#039;re not really thinking like a politician, here.
Reid tossed the hot potato over to the House and skidaddled(sp? heh).
You are assuming that they really want to do what&#039;s right for the country--not that the payroll tax is it.
In reality, it&#039;s like Tina said in the article:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Why would Democrats want the two-month cut instead of the yearlong cut? Because they didn’t want to give the issue up as a political boon. It allowed them to criticize Republicans for hypocritically opposing a tax cut.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So, dems want to have this issue come up again in Feb 2012 so that they can batter the GOP over the head with it closer to the election. And repubs are trying to clear it away til after the election.

You and I would stay and get our work done. Our politicians...not so much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>rjoco1 on December 20, 2011 at 6:34 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah. You&#8217;re correct, of course.<br />
But I think that you&#8217;re not really thinking like a politician, here.<br />
Reid tossed the hot potato over to the House and skidaddled(sp? heh).<br />
You are assuming that they really want to do what&#8217;s right for the country&#8211;not that the payroll tax is it.<br />
In reality, it&#8217;s like Tina said in the article:</p>
<blockquote><p>Why would Democrats want the two-month cut instead of the yearlong cut? Because they didn’t want to give the issue up as a political boon. It allowed them to criticize Republicans for hypocritically opposing a tax cut.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, dems want to have this issue come up again in Feb 2012 so that they can batter the GOP over the head with it closer to the election. And repubs are trying to clear it away til after the election.</p>
<p>You and I would stay and get our work done. Our politicians&#8230;not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: KenInIL</title>
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		<dc:creator>KenInIL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The House should append all the &quot;jobs&quot; bills it has passed recently (23, I think) to the payroll tax cut bill and let Obama &lt;em&gt;personally&lt;/em&gt; not implement them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The House should append all the &#8220;jobs&#8221; bills it has passed recently (23, I think) to the payroll tax cut bill and let Obama <em>personally</em> not implement them.</p>
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		<title>By: rjoco1</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjoco1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Red Crow, my point was the bastages left town and the work wasn&#039;t done. Stick around until there is a bill to send to thePres, not just to send to the House for argument. Then leave town.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Red Crow, my point was the bastages left town and the work wasn&#8217;t done. Stick around until there is a bill to send to thePres, not just to send to the House for argument. Then leave town.</p>
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		<title>By: GhoulAid</title>
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		<dc:creator>GhoulAid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Our ancestor founders would be shooting by now.

Walter L. Newton on December 20, 2011 at 6:30 PM


&lt;/blockquote&gt;don&#039;t you know that you can&#039;t use that type of lanquage anymore??? think about what happened to....

&lt;strong&gt;GABBY GIFFORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Our ancestor founders would be shooting by now.</p>
<p>Walter L. Newton on December 20, 2011 at 6:30 PM</p>
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<p>don&#8217;t you know that you can&#8217;t use that type of lanquage anymore??? think about what happened to&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>GABBY GIFFORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!</strong></p>
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