Dallas Morning News: Is anyone really buying Holder’s excuses on Fast & Furious?

posted at 3:30 pm on December 18, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

To answer Mike Hashimoto, the DMN’s editorial writer, no.  That, however, hasn’t kept them from sticking with their stonewall strategy:

What we still don’t know — what Attorney General Eric Holder with great determination will not say — is who in Washington signed off on this awful idea of letting straw purchasers cart off armloads of high-powered weapons, headed to Mexico. The stated plan was to track them to the cartels, which worked out about as well as one might expect. Hundreds of guns disappeared and now are turning up at crime scenes on both sides of the border.

Holder last week had another bob-and-weave session with a congressional committee, managing to reveal as little as possible. However, he did let us know that while Justice did dump hundreds of emails in response to a subpoena, none were addressed to him or had been sent by him. And that he has a personal email account, along with his government account. And that lying isn’t the same as not telling the truth, depending on one’s “state of mind.”

You’ve seen people who did it and didn’t in your life. Is this how an innocent person behaves? Is it plausible that the attorney general of the United States had no idea what was going on in Arizona within his own shifting time parameters?

No, and hell, no, respectively.  I recall when it came to light that Karl Rove, who wasn’t a Cabinet secretary or running federal law enforcement for the US, used his personal e-mail account while working on George W. Bush’s political team in the White House.  Democrats clutched hankies and swooned at the lack of transparency.  Now the Attorney General of the United States has suggested that his personal e-mail account might have been used to bypass transparency, and that there are thousands of communications that he will flat-out not share with Congress on the matter of Operation Fast and Furious, which a year ago resulted in the death of a US Border Patrol agent and perhaps hundreds of murders in Mexico. Have the same Democrats demanded transparency of the Obama administration?  No, and hell no.

Hashimoto holds onto some faint optimism that the scandal will drive Holder out of the way:

At some point, one might think, Holder becomes more of a liability to the Obama re-election campaign than a 50-50 incumbent can stand. At the very least, I can’t imagine congressional Republicans letting this drop, and the longer Holder stonewalls, the longer his name — and connection to his boss — stays in the news.

At first, I thought the same thing.  After all, one of the key duties of a Cabinet secretary is to fall on one’s sword when scandal erupts, in order to buffer the boss from the political fallout.  At this late date, I don’t think Holder will exit at all, unless so many Democrats start calling for his ouster that Barack Obama has to worry about Holder getting impeached. Obama would have to get Senate confirmation on a replacement for Holder in the case of resignation, and I think Obama is worried what that might mean, especially in an election year.  The only way he’d get a relatively painless confirmation from the Senate would be if he nominated a reformer Republicans could trust to get to the bottom of a number of issues of Holder’s tenure, and Obama clearly doesn’t want to make that any easier for Republicans than it is now.

Will the family of Brian Terry get the justice they seek?

In a statement released through attorney Pat McGroder, the family said it was “incomprehensible that members of ATF and DOJ would embark on such an egregious operation and then try to conceal the link between this failed investigation and Brian’s murder.

“We now believe that, if it can be shown that laws were broken, then all those responsible for Fast and Furious should be held criminally liable.”

The answer to that is also no, at least as long as Eric Holder remains Attorney General and refuses to fully cooperate with Congress.


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My fear is that a year from now, Holder still being in office will be the least of our worries.

Buck Turgidson on December 18, 2011 at 7:55 PM

Keep the faith, stay plugged in, stay righteously Indignant and keep talking bro, we’re in way better shape than you think.

Tim_CA on December 18, 2011 at 8:14 PM

If you take away Holder you take away a great deal of Obama’s protection and I can’t see Obama allowing that to happen. Besides Mr. Obama needs Holder now more than ever with his re-election coming up. Arrogant Criminals the entire lot of them.

RiCkY.D. on December 18, 2011 at 8:30 PM

they lie on December 18, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Remember that this is basically an ATF ptoject and not a child of Att. Gen. Holder although I think he is a moron. It also dates back to 2006 and covered five states. So much for a Republican administration and gun rights.

I had a lib insult the reporter who led the team who broke this in the same way they lash Ann Coulter. On her physical appearance. OMG. In case anyone here does not know I think she is Sheryl Attkinsson of CBS. If only the MSM had more like her! But don’t get carried away.

In last week’s 60 minutes love feast, CBS edited out Dear Leader’s claim to be our fourth best prez. My! His self esteem has slipped!

IlikedAUH2O on December 18, 2011 at 8:31 PM

In last week’s 60 minutes love feast, CBS edited out Dear Leader’s claim to be our fourth best prez. My! His self esteem has slipped!

IlikedAUH2O on December 18, 2011 at 8:31 PM

LMAO……wait a sec….

4 / 44 = top 9%

A “Good solid B+”, No?

Tim_CA on December 18, 2011 at 8:39 PM

Remember that this is basically an ATF ptoject and not a child of Att. Gen. Holder although I think he is a moron. It also dates back to 2006 and covered five states. So much for a Republican administration and gun rights.

IlikedAUH2O on December 18, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Please, this was not the same operation at all. During the Bush administration, Operation Wide Receiver a) dealt with a smaller quantity of guns, b) attempted to track those guns. Ineptly, but did attempt to track using RFID technology, c) informed the Mexican government of the operation. None of these was true of F&F.

The left is trying the “But Bush did it too!” defense. It isn’t working. Besides, given the fact that Wide Receiver was a miserable failure, one would think that the new administration would not want to repeat the mistakes of the past instead of doubling down and a) increasing the quantity of guns allowed to walk, b) make no attempt to track the guns once they crossed the border, and c) not inform the Mexican government of the operation. They didn’t even inform the ATF Mexican bureau chief.

As far as Republicans and gun rights: Bush allowed the so-called assault weapons ban to expire despite the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the media and libs in congress who were screaming that the “streets would run red with blood” if this ban were allowed to expire.

Just for your information regarding your nom de’ plume: Goldwater in his later years headed full RINO and made a statement at one time that “citizens shouldn’t be allowed to own those kinds of weapons in reference to semi-automatic AR style firearms.

AZfederalist on December 18, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Keep the faith, stay plugged in, stay righteously Indignant and keep talking bro, we’re in way better shape than you think.

Tim_CA on December 18, 2011 at 8:14 PM

Yep. You can count on it. But I won’t even begin to think about relaxing until a new POTUS is sworn in and Obama flies back to Chicago.

Buck Turgidson on December 18, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Yep. You can count on it. But I won’t even begin to think about relaxing until a new POTUS is sworn in and Obama flies back to Chicago. is sent to Leavenworth to share a cell with Eric Holder for 20 years

FIFY :)

Benedict Nelson on December 18, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Holder has been an obnoxious jerk from the beginning. It became pretty clear, pretty fast, that the MSM will refuse to cover most of Holder’s scandals… Guess they figure they already lost their credibility, might as well function openly as a party aparatus.

I grew up a cold war kid, lived through the Carter debacle, enlisted after Desert 1, saw Mr. Reagan arrive like a relief column at Bastogne. He was the validation we’d held out for. During the 70′s when the media told us we were in decline, that we should bow to the Soviets, let Japan lead the worlds economy, I never lost faith in my country’s future.

Since 08, I haven’ done anything but worry..

Now, I pray the country I knew will be the ones my kids will know. They’re 12 and 10, and I’m too busted up to do a forced march. We’ve got to win this.

mark81150 on December 18, 2011 at 9:02 PM

T e b o w !

carbon_footprint on December 18, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Was taken to quarterback school by Mr. Brady and company.

trickychicken on December 18, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Was taken to quarterback school by Mr. Brady and company.

trickychicken on December 18, 2011 at 9:05 PM

How about that vaunted Bronco defense that I have heard non-stop praise about from every corner?

besser tot als rot on December 18, 2011 at 9:09 PM

The arrogance of the odumbo administration is mind-boggling. Impeach this SOB and be done with him.

ultracon on December 18, 2011 at 9:09 PM

How about that vaunted Bronco defense that I have heard non-stop praise about from every corner?

besser tot als rot on December 18, 2011 at 9:09 PM

So they have one bad game against one of the best if not the best offenses and that means they are no good?

CW on December 18, 2011 at 9:11 PM

Could it be because every liberal is corrupt and they don’t really believe their own lies like everyone thinks?

angrymike on December 18, 2011 at 6:05 PM

They don’t believe a one of their own lies. And they laugh at us for thinking they might.

Alana on December 18, 2011 at 9:15 PM

two words……….

presidential pardon.

bank on it………and add rezko and blago to the list.

RealMc on December 18, 2011 at 7:25 PM

I thought that that might happen at first – but, after thinking about it, I doubt it.
Even if obama pardons holder ‘in advance’, that still does not preclude the next president from launching an intensive investigation into F&F. And following the trail all the way to the top. Holder could be made to testify because ‘he couldn’t be prosecutes’ for that; as could everyone else that obama tried to pardon up front.
BUT, obama cannot pardon himself – and he doesn’t want to face the music alone or have the ‘unprosecutable’ people whom he pardoned testifying against him and facing no charges.
He puts himself way out on a limb if he plays the ‘up front pardon’ game.

Solaratov on December 18, 2011 at 9:16 PM

Maybe I missed this but who is responsible for requsting/appointing a special prosecutor? What is the procedure? Or do we need to wait for the hearings to be done? It seems the federal government has a lot of rules and regulations for our politicians that have no enforcement procedures (eg Supreme court justices should recuse themselves under certain circumstances but no one can make them and congressional subpoenas which go unanswered, among other things).

hopeful on December 18, 2011 at 9:21 PM

Maybe the Senate Republicans have a reason not to push for an immediate indictment. If Holder is found guilty after January 2013, there will be no one in the White House to pardon him.

Archivarix on December 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM

False hope, I’m afraid. Obama would have a couple months from the election to the inauguration to pardon the right people, and Holder would be the top of the list. The ONLY way Holder steps down is if it becomes too politically painful to keep him on, and the only way that calculation gets made is if they think Holder being fired might win them the election.

I’m not saying it’s impossible, but it’s very, very unlikely that Holder ever leaves.

There Goes The Neighborhood on December 18, 2011 at 11:02 PM

Holder is just like Obama, they cannot open their mouths without lies spewing out. Dumb and Dumber.

Alborn on December 18, 2011 at 11:11 PM

IMO Obama doesn’t fire Holder, whom no one believes, because he, Obama, authorized Fast & Furious – he talked about gun tracing enough times as a tactic before his election – and Holder can be accordingly relied on not to prosecute anyone who just followed orders. Looks like the top administrators of F & F have been promoted or transferred to keep them using the Sargent Schulz “I know nothing!” line.

This is a scary administration.

Chessplayer on December 19, 2011 at 12:25 AM

Looks like Obama’s in a bit of a pickle over this one. He can’t fire Holder because Holder knows too much and might sing. He may want Holder to resign, but then he’d lose the authority of Atty Gen. to hide behind and stonewall. Imagine how awful this would be for them if we had a journalism structure actually bent on doing it’s job.

swinia sutki on December 19, 2011 at 5:38 AM

This man’s arrogance is insulting.

Ditto, his boss.

TimBuk3 on December 19, 2011 at 8:09 AM

Holder plays the race card: The reason they criticize me is because I’m African-American.

Despicable.

petefrt on December 19, 2011 at 8:52 AM

I have said once, and I have said it many more times, Watergate was a third rate break in, yet people went to jail over it and a president was forced to resign in disgrace over it. Well, we now have Fast and Furious, where the US government allowed a lot guns to be walked into a neighboring nation, where surprise, surprise they just plain disappeared. Now these walked guns are turning up at multiple crime scenes, and have lead to the death of at least one America. Multiple Mexicans are also dead as a direct result of this Obama regime FUBAR scheme to attack and weaken the Second Amendment(remember Obama told Sarah Brady her was working on gun control from behind the scenes). Where is our fearless watchdog press on all of this one might ask, with a few exceptions, they are for the most part too busy kissing Obama’s Ass and doing all they can to make sure he gets reelected.

Beastdogs on December 19, 2011 at 9:34 AM

Past time to get an independent special prosecutor going to remove the stone wall Holder and Obama have in place. Issa is going too slow and has the Democrats defending the wreckless actions in Fast and Furious.

Amazingoly on December 19, 2011 at 10:10 AM

This is one of those rare scandals that the cover-up is not worse than the crime.

I don’t see Holder getting thrown under the bus, because if he was, he would likely end up having to give state’s evidence to keep himself out of jail.

Voyager on December 19, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Umm the FACT that this question in being asked in a southern state newspaper (and a red state at that) and not by the NYT tells you all you need to know as to why Holder is getting away with all this. The DMN is my local paper I’m proud to say, if I were a New Yorker I’d be ashamed..but then again this is New York we are talking about. Holder will be protected by the MSM. They’ve already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they put their idealogy before the good of the country. Holder should not only be fired but he should be jailed!

neyney on December 19, 2011 at 10:40 AM

two words……….

presidential pardon.

bank on it………and add rezko and blago to the list.

RealMc on December 18, 2011 at 7:25 PM

Unless our Repubs are hopefully waiting until after 1/20/2012 to press charges when Presidential pardons are “unavailable”.

dominigan on December 19, 2011 at 11:49 AM

This guy has already committed MULTIPLE counts of PERJURY – a felony, has handed over thousands of guns to Mexican Drug Cartel members – resulting in both Mexican and US citizen deaths, has been laundering /helping launder millions for the Mexican Drug Cartels, has directed law enforcement NOT to arrest/sentence/deport Illegals for crimes less than a felony, has dropped charges on drug runners caught with hundreds of pounds of drugs in exchange for their (fase) testimony of fake abuse resulting in the Border Patrol Agent going to jail instead of the drug runner, and NOW he is claiming that the only reason people are BEING MEAN TO HIM and DEMANDING HE BE FIRED is BECAUSE HE IS BLACK – pulling the race card!!! (Newsflash – It ain’t about the COLOR, as you know – it is about Llegality and your inept criminal conduct!)

Under Clinton, he dropped charges against terrorists who were responsible for the deaths of several 1st responders in a cimmunity in New York in a deal for votes to help Hillary get elected! He refuses to neforce the existing Illegal Immigration laws and yet is suing at least 7 states for doing HIS job!

This man is a criminal who should not only be fired but should be IN JAIL for what he has done. He is an incredible POS! The only people ALMOST as gutless, selfish, and despicable are the politicians in Washington who don’t have the cahonies to step up and slap the cuffs on him and/or Impeach him….

…right along with Obama who has been exposed as being guilty of using billions in our tax dollars for Criminal Crony Capitalism – Solyndra, bio-fuel for the navy that is 4 times more expensive than what they can currently purchase it for. At the center of all these companies he keeps funneling billions to are top Obama donors who are getting rich on lost/sacrificed US Taxpayer dollars. This is one of the most self-serving criminal administrations in US history!

easyt65 on December 19, 2011 at 12:11 PM

Holder plays the race card: The reason they criticize me is because I’m African-American.

Despicable.

petefrt on December 19, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Caught that this morning. The man is despicable.

Tim_CA on December 19, 2011 at 12:38 PM

Maybe some mexican drug dealer who got one of the FAF guns will use it to get rid of the AG. That way, all the loose ends are taken care of, right?

rjulio on December 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM

Obama had better hope he loses the election.

He’s already less than thrilled with the job. In ’12 Rs will hold the House, take the Senate, then turn their focus on the President, whereupon they will proceed to make Dresden look like a snowball fight.

Before it’s done, a third of his cabinet will either be consumed in the fire or will run screaming from the wreckage. He will spend four years praying for his last day in office to come.

SomeCallMeJohn on December 19, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Holder: But, but , but. You’re just doing this because I’m black

We the People: No, its because you are incompetent. AND a liar.

kens on December 19, 2011 at 1:37 PM

Eric Holder is the numero uno Douche of Douchery!

MCGIRV on December 19, 2011 at 1:46 PM

A fitting punishment.

Take Holder to the Texas border, dress him in pink panties, and then transport him about 30 miles in. Any bets we ever hear from him again?

kens on December 19, 2011 at 1:52 PM

A fitting punishment.

Take Holder to the Texas border, dress him in pink panties, and then transport him about 30 miles in. Any bets we ever hear from him again?

kens on December 19, 2011 at 1:52 PM

LMAO.

It get’s pretty lonely out there for those drug-smugglers working for the cartels that he walked the guns to – I’d imagine he’d be pretty popular.

Maybe he could meet someone nice and settle down?

Tim_CA on December 19, 2011 at 2:00 PM

I’m about ready to sign off on legal penalties for deliberate dishonesty by the press.

I value the first amendment as much or more than anyone, but so many damnable lies every day… it’s like trying to swim in a septic tank.

THE STATED PLAN WAS TO *NOT* TRACK THE GUNS.

Mike Hashimoto *HAS* to know better than this by now, why is he lying IN FAVOR OF HOLDER while purportedly criticizing him?

I am sick to DEATH of the damned lies.

Merovign on December 19, 2011 at 4:00 PM

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