Audio: Newt Gingrich “in a benign sense … is a totalitarian,” says Mark Steyn

posted at 8:00 pm on December 17, 2011 by Tina Korbe

This, to balance out my anti-Mitt post earlier. The truest sentence Mark Steyn speaks in this audio: Newt Gingrich has “solutions to stuff most of us didn’t know were problems.” I’ll let Steyn’s statements about Gingrich speak for themselves:

Rather than add more about what we don’t want in a president, I’d like to offer a model for what I, at least, would like. Steyn references Calvin Coolidge as the quintessential conservative president. He’s onto something. Silent Cal truly grasped that less is more. Here, indeed, is a lesson for our crony-capitalism-plagued times, from Coolidge, via Paul Johnson in A History of the American People:

Later that year [1925], in an address to the New York Chamber of Commerce, Coolidge produced a classic and lapidary statement of his own laissez-fair philosophy. Government and business, he said, should remain independent and separate, one directed from Washington, the other from New York. Wise and prudent men should always prevent the mutual usurpations which foolish men sought on either side. Business was the pursuit of gain but it also had a moral purpose: ‘the mutual organized effort of society to minister to the economic requirement of civilization … It rests squarely on the law of service. It has for its main reliance truth and faith and justice. In its larger sense it is is one of the greatest contributing forces to the moral and spiritual advancement of the race.’ That was why government had a warrant to promote its success by providing the conditions of competition within a framework of security. The job of government and law was to suppress privilege wherever it manifested itself and uphold lawful possession by providing legal remedies for all wrongs: ‘The prime element in the value of all property is the knowledge that its peaceful enjoyment will be publicly defended.’ Without this legal and public defense ‘the value of your tall buildings would shrink to the price of the waterfront of old Carthage or corner-lots in ancient Babylon.’ The more business regulated itself, he concluded, the less need there would be for government to act to insure competition. It could therefore concentrate on its twin tasks of economy and of improving the national structure within which business could increase profits and investment, raise wages and provide better goods and services at the lowest possible prices.

(Read the full address here.)

And, as a matter of personal taste, how nice would it be if our politicians said a whole lot less? As Coolidge put it, “I don’t recall any candidate for president that ever injured himself very much by not talking.’ Or again: ‘The things I never say never get me into trouble.’ All our candidates could stand to learn that lesson.

Parting thought: Coolidge was president in the twentieth century, and Newt still chooses FDR as the “greatest”?


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Conservatives eating their own. No wonder Obama got elected.

HopeHeFails on December 17, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Mark Steyn to be called a RINO and/or a sellout in 3…2…

GOPRanknFile on December 17, 2011 at 8:06 PM

This is also less productive than a Bush supermajority Congress.

HopeHeFails on December 17, 2011 at 8:07 PM

FDR was a communist piece of garbage.
But he got elected 4 times and transformed America into the socialist cesspool it is today.

I admire him as well in a political sense even though I disagree with 95% of what he did.

angryed on December 17, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Newt ain’t that bad. I like Mark Steyn, but this over-the-top rhetoric about Newt must be borne out of some personal issues between the two. Mark needs to take a deep breath and count to 10 or something.

doorsxp on December 17, 2011 at 8:08 PM

We know Tina. Newt is no Michele Bachmann. But no matter how hard you bash every other candidate, she’ll never be in the top tier.

NoStoppingUs on December 17, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Conservatives eating their own. No wonder Obama got elected.

HopeHeFails on December 17, 2011 at 8:06 PM

If you think 2008 was a big win for Obama, just wait until 2012. It will make 2008 look like a close race. I predict he wins 55%+ of the popular vote.

angryed on December 17, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Tina, this is a good companion piece about how out of control our federal government is. Sen. DeMint describes the flurry of spending in the omnibus bill before Congress, particularly the Senate runs away for its latest vacation.
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-a-budget/200119-sen-demint-a-shameful-end-to-the-year

onlineanalyst on December 17, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Newt is the repub cass sunstein. He just knows better.Like some one said after the debate the other night,”he has an answer for everything” referencing the Bachman attack, all bs but stated in such a blunt and condescending and all knowing way. Just another academic that wants to boss us around for our own good.

tim c on December 17, 2011 at 8:10 PM

to be honest, I can see Gingrich and David Brooks having a dinner conversation where the focus is how smart they are.

rob verdi on December 17, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Purge Mark Steyn – “Establishment RINO”

swamp_yankee on December 17, 2011 at 8:11 PM

By the way, Hugh Hewitt is a total moron.

doorsxp on December 17, 2011 at 8:11 PM

to be honest, I can see Gingrich and David Brooks having a dinner conversation where the focus is how smart they are.

rob verdi on December 17, 2011 at 8:10 PM

heh

angryed on December 17, 2011 at 8:12 PM

Yet another thread to devolve into Newt vs. Romney in 3….2….1….

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on December 17, 2011 at 8:12 PM

Fist Glenn Beck, now Steyn – Gingrich seems to drive the commentariat nuts.

I actually love Steyn, but when it comes to endorsements, he is far from making sense. He joked at Cpac in 2008 that Romneys managerial skills where what we need in our President because he saved the Olympics and made sports like curling profitable, told Hannity this year that these skills make Romney a “managerial progressive” and now seems to be ready to endorse him all over again. Its one thing

Valkyriepundit on December 17, 2011 at 8:13 PM

to be honest, I can see Gingrich and David Brooks having a dinner conversation where the focus is how smart they are.
rob verdi on December 17, 2011 at 8:10 PM

I lol’d at this.

So true though.

Lord on December 17, 2011 at 8:13 PM

Gingrich is a totalitarian in the sense that he believes in interconnected government solutions, and you provide a space mirror as an example? You might be able to claim he likes eeeeevil big government, but the idea that that is on its face totalitarian is absurd.

Gingrich’s problem isn’t that he’s a progressive or a big government conservative or a totalitarian. Newt’s problem is that he’s an ideas man where 95% of his ideas are plain daffy.

That still leaves him a 100% better alternative to Romney. Still, I’ll be sticking with Santorum in the primaries.

Stoic Patriot on December 17, 2011 at 8:13 PM

Newt doesn’t like to let things happen. He likes to have his fingers in everything.

Paul-Cincy on December 17, 2011 at 8:14 PM

It’s odd that the same elite Republican class who warn us against calling Obama a Marxist, socialist, etc., are willing to use this type of rhetoric on Gingrich. Gingrich has a lot of issues but to compare him to Mussolini? This isn’t going to help Romney.

blue13326 on December 17, 2011 at 8:14 PM

I like listening to Newt talk,and talk,and talk,and talk,and you get the idea.

gerrym51 on December 17, 2011 at 8:14 PM

I think Steyn is correct about Gingrich.

Puma for Life on December 17, 2011 at 8:16 PM

Newt moved the bar to the right. Yet, somehow, the magical doesn’t exist candidate who is not on the ballot is a Coolidge clone is in the form of Romney? Bachmann? Really???? Are you f@cking kidding me? Seriously?

Steyn is a very astute observer, no question about it. But anybody who chooses to ignore the fact that Gingrich is the ONLY f@cking candidate who has a RECORD of rolling back the entitlement state is a fool.

This election cycle is insane. Totally insane……

MTLassen on December 17, 2011 at 8:16 PM

Will this country ever know another Calvin Coolidge? Likely not. EVERY Dem and far too many Repubs would go against such a candidate.

predator on December 17, 2011 at 8:16 PM

Good clip. He mentions Newt’s public service and getting 1.8 million from Freddie Mac for doing nothing. Steyn says, “Newt represents the worst aspect of American public service.”

BACH ROCKS!

balkanmom on December 17, 2011 at 8:16 PM

Excuse me, but Mark Steyn’s comments are idiotic. Newt attacks Obama and the congressional Democrats as running a secular socialist machine had Newt is responsible for a wonderful documentary videos on Reagan, God in America and Pope John Paul II and yet somehow Newt is totalitarian? Please, the attacks on Newt are getting ridiculous. Newt is about as profound a conservative philosophically as there is, and Newt more than anyone else running for President understands what Reagan would do.

Calvin Coolidge did not have the problem that we need to reduce dramatically the federal welfare state. The one and only person who has done that successfully in modern times is Newt.

Phil Byler on December 17, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Gingrich just likes to hear himself talk. I don’t think he has a discernible ideology. It’s all an intellectual exercise to him.

therightwinger on December 17, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Des Moines Register endorses Romney.
Clearly sexist- right, Korbe?

jjshaka on December 17, 2011 at 8:20 PM

If you think 2008 was a big win for Obama, just wait until 2012. It will make 2008 look like a close race. I predict he wins 55%+ of the popular vote.

angryed on December 17, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Yep.

BallisticBob on December 17, 2011 at 8:21 PM

BACH ROCKS!

balkanmom on December 17, 2011 at 8:16 PM

I’m not sure he rocks, but I like his music…

idesign on December 17, 2011 at 8:21 PM

I like Mark Steyn, but I think he is missing Newt’s plan…

… Newt knows that our Federal Government and it’s tentacled bureaucracies have gotten so big, so out of control, so intrusive, so regulating, so smothering of the freedoms and ideals that this country was founded on that we are fast approaching a Socialist State.

So many people have their fingers in the pie, that when you start to cut it, the screams are deafening, especially put to a bullhorn by the media and the Left…

… You are going to have to use government to cut government.

To keep this short, I will give you one example…

… Newt has said that he has no problem moving over 200,000 employees of Homeland Security that are stationed in Washington, D.C. to the southwest border.

Now those who don’t want to go can quit…

.. and those transferred just might start to have an effect on controlling our borders.

Those that won’t do their new jobs, will be fired…

… You have to understand just how vast of a problem that we are facing, and since Newt was an insider, he knows, and for the sake of his Grandchildren, he wants to try to fix it.

I think this was lost on Mark Steyn…

… Just sayin’.

Seven Percent Solution on December 17, 2011 at 8:21 PM

Excuse me balkanmom, but Bachman, in addition to having thin experience at a time we need to nominate a candidate with experience, has shown herself to have no judgment. Attacking, as Bachman has done, a fellow Republican based on a misstatement of the consultancy is something Democrats would do, but what not a true conservative Republican would do.

Phil Byler on December 17, 2011 at 8:23 PM

No totalitarianism is benign.

We’re already suffering tyranny to save us from ourselves.

What difference does it make who’s ideas are the cause?

Speakup on December 17, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Newt is a big-government, intellectual egghead who would be right at home as a professor expounding on solutions to problems – big, federal grandiose solutions to problems. Where did this narrative come from that he is right-wing? It was invented from whole cloth. And speaking of such, Newt is cut from the same cloth as Obama. Except fatter. And I think a bit shorter.

keep the change on December 17, 2011 at 8:27 PM

I still can’t get over the fact that the candidate who declared FDR “the greatest President of the 20th Century” and said that he considered himself “Wilsonian” is being held up as the CONSERVATIVE option.

Have we really cannon-fired off to the left that badly? My God…

Steyn is dead on, as usual.

El Dillo on December 17, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Mark Steyn has some powerful and substantive criticisms of Gingrich, but they leave a bad taste in my mouth because he refuses to use his acerbic wit against Romney who is just as flawed. Steyn’s selective attack allows Willard the squish to ease on through. Integrity is opening up both barrels on anyone worthy of a blast. Otherwise, it’s just sycophancy by omission.

Spirit Crusher on December 17, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Seven Percent Solution on December 17, 2011 at 8:21 PM

I can’t help but think that Newt is a bit of a political mercenary. He wants to be on the winning side; with the “hot” issues of the time. I think that was part of the Pelosi couch deal. “Green” was hot.

Now he thinks that’s not so much the deal, and he wants to have a legacy. So, he’s going to try to be the next Reagan or something. I hope I’m wrong about him. I just still can’t bring myself to entirely trust him–same with Romney. But I would probably take Newt over Romney if they are the only two left standing. Primarily because I think Newt is more of a fighter.

predator on December 17, 2011 at 8:30 PM

And, as a matter of personal taste, how nice would it be if our politicians said a whole lot less? As Coolidge put it, “I don’t recall any candidate for president that ever injured himself very much by not talking.’

Ask Herman Cain. Apparently “I never sexually harassed anyone” was too complicated, even for some conservatives, to understand. We’re f**ked as a society.

MadisonConservative on December 17, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Lord,
glad you gut a chuckle.

rob verdi on December 17, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Excuse me balkanmom, but Bachman, in addition to having thin experience at a time we need to nominate a candidate with experience, has shown herself to have no judgment. Attacking, as Bachman has done, a fellow Republican based on a misstatement of the consultancy is something Democrats would do, but what not a true conservative Republican would do.

Phil Byler on December 17, 2011 at 8:23 PM

That’s pretty inflammatory to say that she has no judgment.
Bachmann and Santorum fight for conservatism (along with Santorum) like no other. Maybe Huntsman, too.

This government needs a major overhaul. An overhaul to the right. Not to the middle (or left), Mr. Gingrich. WE NEED A CONSERVATIVE.

BACH ROCKS!

balkanmom on December 17, 2011 at 8:35 PM

I’m with Steyn. Bibi/Steyn 2012.

Philly on December 17, 2011 at 8:36 PM

WE NEED A CONSERVATIVE.

+1000 to you, madam.

predator on December 17, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Shorter Steyn: “I want a conservative candidate. That’s why I’m going to do everything in my power to get the most liberal candidate the nomination.” Stupid! Simply stupid!

davenp35 on December 17, 2011 at 8:37 PM

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canopfor on December 17, 2011 at 8:40 PM

By the way, Hugh Hewitt is a total moron.

doorsxp on December 17, 2011 at 8:11 PM

That’s just his radio personality. At least, I hope so.

I like Mark Steyn, but I think he is missing Newt’s plan…

… Newt knows that our Federal Government and it’s tentacled bureaucracies have gotten so big, so out of control, so intrusive, so regulating, so smothering of the freedoms and ideals that this country was founded on that we are fast approaching a Socialist State.

So many people have their fingers in the pie, that when you start to cut it, the screams are deafening, especially put to a bullhorn by the media and the Left…

… You are going to have to use government to cut government.

To keep this short, I will give you one example…

… Newt has said that he has no problem moving over 200,000 employees of Homeland Security that are stationed in Washington, D.C. to the southwest border.

Now those who don’t want to go can quit…

.. and those transferred just might start to have an effect on controlling our borders.

Those that won’t do their new jobs, will be fired…

… You have to understand just how vast of a problem that we are facing, and since Newt was an insider, he knows, and for the sake of his Grandchildren, he wants to try to fix it.

I think this was lost on Mark Steyn…

… Just sayin’.

Seven Percent Solution on December 17, 2011 at 8:21 PM

You certainly nailed this one. I am pretty sure that he was on the couch just to make sure that he was keeping his friends close and his enemies closer. There is no way a guy as smart as Newt could ever think that algore was right. About anything.

We are probably getting Newt as a candidate and so heaping all this abuse on him right now is merely making sure that there is very little left when he goes against Jugears.

And that money from Fannie? He shouldn’t have gotten involved in the first place but for all we know he was trying to get inside to find some smoking gun evidence. We just don’t know. But he should have made sure his fingerprints weren’t on it regardless of why he did it.

platypus on December 17, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Parting thought: Coolidge was president in the twentieth century, and Newt still chooses FDR as the “greatest”?

Precisely.

AshleyTKing on December 17, 2011 at 8:41 PM

http://www.salon.com/2011/12/16/gingrich_lauded_good_parts_of_obama_health_plan/

On one call, Gingrich suggested that his clients — each paying as much as $200,000 in yearly retainer fees — would have a role in crafting policy.

“There are clearly things that we’d like to see continued and we’d like to see legislation passed almost concurrently that will sustain the good parts,” said Gingrich, explaining what would happen if the bill were to be repealed. Showing his savvy at generating business, he added that he would “love the help of all of our members in identifying” which parts of reform should remain law.

Gingrich’s private description of the Affordable Care Act differs dramatically from what he had said to voters publicly. In interviews over the last two years, he has described President Obama’s program as a “centralized healthcare dictatorship” with provisions that “would, in effect, be death panels.” At Republican debates, he said that if elected, he would literally sign the repeal at his inaugural ceremony.

He stuck a different tone on the 2010 calls with his clients.

Gingrich applauded the “rapidly emerging standard of care” that would come with new Medicare reporting patterns prescribed by the law. “I think that those people who understand it and adapt to it, and learn how to use it faster will have a substantial net advantage,” Gingrich advised.

Chudi on December 17, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Newt Gingrich “in a benign sense … is a totalitarian”

“He’s a dictator, but in the good sense of the word.”

whatcat on December 17, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Conservatives eating their own. No wonder Obama got elected.

HopeHeFails on December 17, 2011 at 8:06 PM

“if you’re not a part of the solution, you’re a part of the problem.” John McClane, Die Hard

This isn’t a game of egos and I’ve no interest in circular discussions. Anything we say has already been said before. Please tell me why I should vote for another Bush/McCain/Gingrich/Romney/Huntsman/Christie/Pataki/Bloomburg/Whitman/Graham/Hatch? Is it Obama’s fault that I’m paying 70% of my earnings in taxes (federal/state income taxes, gas tax, phone tax, tolls, sales tax, property tax, utility tax…..)? Have I not ceded enough of my liberty? These republiclowns do that trick with the dollar bill (how much is enough), but only talk about federal income tax – as if that’s our only burden. 70 f—ing % is going to some kind of tax and we have clowns on this forum telling me to vote for anybody but Obama. Why should I? When do I decide to keep what’s left of my dignity? I voted for that pr–k Bush and I got no child left behind and prescription drug coverage and a massive push for amnesty. When is the line in the sand drawn? Answer that f—ing question.

noeastern on December 17, 2011 at 8:43 PM

canopfor on December 17, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Thanks for the tips but I hope you don’t seriously think anybody cares what a newspaper says in the 21st century.

platypus on December 17, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Anyone ever get the idea that these personalities do not want to give up their anti-Obama soap box?

astonerii on December 17, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Newt IS that bad. He talks the talk but he doesn’t walk the walk.

Steyn nailed it precisely. I can’t get around the $1.6 million received from Freddie Mac. It’s absolutely what’s wrong with Washington, that people who go there to serve end up in the top 1% financially. I agree with Peter Schweizer: Throw them all out, starting with Newt Gingrich. Anybody on that stage is more worthy than he to be President.

flataffect on December 17, 2011 at 8:45 PM

If you think 2008 was a big win for Obama, just wait until 2012. It will make 2008 look like a close race. I predict he wins 55%+ of the popular vote.

angryed on December 17, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Nope……..

rich801 on December 17, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Shorter Steyn: “I want a conservative candidate. That’s why I’m going to do everything in my power to get the most liberal candidate the nomination.” Stupid! Simply stupid!

HUntsman is the most liberal. he should be running in the democratic primary.
Next most liberal is newt based on his 30 year record.

Next is romney.

santorum is the most conservative

gerrym51 on December 17, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Correction,date F-Up,thats the 18th,sorry!

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canopfor on December 17, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Jonah Goldberg has enough sense to stay halfway above the fray.

Steyn joins the cesspool of Coulter, Beck, Savage and others who – for one reason or another (mostly s*cking up to the GOP) – cannot help but at the last minute sabotage everyone but the pre-ordained milquetoast establishment “it’s my turn!” Republican.

Around 2000, the Media dropped its mask of any *ostensible* objectivity: smearing to defend any and all things Left. Now, in 2011, the Republican Party has dropped its mask of being any *ostensible* opposition to the Democrats: smearing to defend any and all things…well, not *QUITE* as Left.

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY MUST DIE by 2016. I will do what I can to ensure the success of A TEA PARTY for 2016, to replace the rancid carcass currently in place (ooh…do I mean the GOP or the Obama Administration? Choices…choices…). IN THE MEANWHILE, Gingrich *IS* my first choice of those running.

Czar of Defenestration on December 17, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Stupid people are ruining America.
Vote for the less stupid.

Electrongod on December 17, 2011 at 8:47 PM

The only difference between RINOs and libtards is who they hate more.

Roy Rogers on December 17, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Tina,

The counterargument to the Coolidge quote is that Bush never helped himself by not defending himself against his critics.

Sometimes you need to say more.

Dr. Tesla on December 17, 2011 at 8:49 PM

The best way for people to define what you are is for you to stay silent.

Dr. Tesla on December 17, 2011 at 8:50 PM

canopfor on December 17, 2011 at 8:40 PM
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Thanks for the tips but I hope you don’t seriously think anybody cares what a newspaper says in the 21st century.

platypus on December 17, 2011 at 8:44 PM

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canopfor on December 17, 2011 at 8:50 PM

This is ridiculous. The man has a freaking 90% ACU rating. Sure, he’s not perfect, but the guy led the Republicans in reforming the only entitlement that’s been reformed in history.

Yeah, he’s a totalitarian though, I’m sure the conservative Congress well just let him be a fascist or something.

cpaulus on December 17, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Newt thinks gov’t can save America, if only HE were in charge of gov’t.

Fact: most deaths by human hands in the last 100 yrs were caused by gov’t. A government that is powerful enough to to anything FOR you is powerful enough to take anything FROM you.

The Founding Fathers wanted to handcuff gov’t for a reason. Let’s put the shackles back on the the powers that be. Newt won’t do it. Romney won’t do it. Who will?

shawk on December 17, 2011 at 8:52 PM

The Republican elite want status quo, Wall Street insider Mitt Romney to be the nominee, and they will do whatever it takes to get Mitt the votes.

Last time the Republican elite got this agitated, McCain get elected.

Obama just has to walk to home plate because Republicans are more than happy to chew on each other instead of going after Obama.

Another 4 years of Obama should fix this Republican cannibalism!

Sparky5253 on December 17, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Steyn rarely says anything about Romney.

That’s the problem with National Review these days. If you are going to call Newt Gingrich a statist (this is hyperbole, sorry Steyn lovers), it’s curious to a lot of people that you have nothing to say about Romney.

In my view, if Gingrich can’t be our guy, neither can Romney. There needs to be a consistent and equal application of standards.

This is why so many conservatives think National Review is an extension of the Romney campaign this year.

Dr. Tesla on December 17, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Gingrich is still my first choice.

Rose on December 17, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Oh Lord we are in so much trouble!!!!!

lisa fox on December 17, 2011 at 8:54 PM

I can’t get around the $1.6 million received from Freddie Mac. flataffect on December 17, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Of course you can’t – no sane person could. He should be in front of a congressional inquiry committee (or a grand jury), instead he’s the republican republican presidential frontrunner. Only in these crazy times could I be called a purist because I’d rather stick a knife in my eye than vote for this guy.

noeastern on December 17, 2011 at 8:54 PM

The Founding Fathers wanted to handcuff gov’t for a reason. Let’s put the shackles back on the the powers that be. Newt won’t do it. Romney won’t do it. Who will?

shawk on December 17, 2011 at 8:52 PM

BACHMANN! Bachmann or Romney are my two top choices. I prefer Bachmann for my more conservative friends to vote for.

Punchenko on December 17, 2011 at 8:55 PM

“HUntsman is the most liberal.”

LOL…hilarious

peachaeo on December 17, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Jonah Goldberg has enough sense to stay halfway above the fray.

Steyn joins the cesspool of Coulter, Beck, Savage and others who – for one reason or another (mostly s*cking up to the GOP) – cannot help but at the last minute sabotage everyone but the pre-ordained milquetoast establishment “it’s my turn!” Republican.

Around 2000, the Media dropped its mask of any *ostensible* objectivity: smearing to defend any and all things Left. Now, in 2011, the Republican Party has dropped its mask of being any *ostensible* opposition to the Democrats: smearing to defend any and all things…well, not *QUITE* as Left.

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY MUST DIE by 2016. I will do what I can to ensure the success of A TEA PARTY for 2016, to replace the rancid carcass currently in place (ooh…do I mean the GOP or the Obama Administration? Choices…choices…). IN THE MEANWHILE, Gingrich *IS* my first choice of those running.

Czar of Defenestration on December 17, 2011 at 8:47 PM

What? You are so concerned with having a tea party in the future. Yet, your choice is Gingrich. How can the two be reconciled?

balkanmom on December 17, 2011 at 8:57 PM

I’ve come to the conclusion that no one knows anything about politics. That is, there are no experts; no one knows more than you do (provided you pay enough attention). You shouldn’t think for a minute they do. That’s what is wonderful about politics: it reduces so many “intelligent” people to idiots. It’s a great leveler. Perhaps this is because an understanding of politics in one sense–an ability to analyze the systemic problems that afflict a particular period in history–is entirely disconnected from the skills or understandings required (psychological, cultural, instinctual) to decide what individual may be best or least suited to solve those problems.

I’m not sure I know, positively speaking. I’m much clearer about what individuals are not suited or suitable.

rrpjr on December 17, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Steyn’s great, on par with Limbaugh or Levin in my opinion. If only the left would’ve vetted the ONE in the same way the right is doing to their own. The MSM will always be in the tank for the left by far.

racquetballer on December 17, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Coolidge was president in the twentieth century, and Newt still chooses FDR as the “greatest”?

FDR better than Coolidge?
Better than Reagan?
FDR was bad for America, Mr Historian.

itsnotaboutme on December 17, 2011 at 8:58 PM

If Coolidge knew half as much as Newt Gingrich he would have seen the error of his ways and promote GSE’s like Freddie Mac just like Newt. Oh, and the money had nothing to do with it.

FloatingRock on December 17, 2011 at 8:58 PM

PUNCHENKO!!! I was shocked shocked last night when I saw that you are not supporting Gingrich anymore. What happened??? Don’t get me wrong, I’m with you. But, I was so surprised.

balkanmom on December 17, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Newspapers are dying dinosoars,anywho,anthing GOP Nominee
related info,I will post,for a (heads up)or,(in case you missed it)!!!

canopfor on December 17, 2011 at 8:50 PM

So nice to us, and you can’t even vote here. (unless you vote donkey party)

platypus on December 17, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Czar of Defenestration on December 17, 2011 at 8:47 PM

so you are all about the tea party, but your first choice is Newt? He endorsed the non-tea party candidate in ny-23, and then he called ryan’s plan “right wing social engineering”…not to mention Fannie/Freddie, the couch with Nancy. I’m curious why you support him. At some point, don’t all these add up to more than just one-off “slips”?

peachaeo on December 17, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Also, in almost every quote he says he’s the “best liberal president” or “best Democrat president,” or “best politician,” all of which is pretty much accurate. The man won 4 terms as president and implemented every major Democratic liberal policy you could think of.

cpaulus on December 17, 2011 at 9:00 PM

I think Anne Coulter has jumped the shark. She says the Tea Party won’t support Romney because they want someone “who is going to go around bombastically demanding to see Obama’s birth certificate or calling him a Kenyan.”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/12/ann-coulter-claims-tea-party-prefers-a-gop-candidate-who-will-call-obama-a-kenyan/

Cindy Munford on December 17, 2011 at 9:00 PM

balkanmom on December 17, 2011 at 8:59 PM

I believe it is called sarcasm.

Cindy Munford on December 17, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Steyn’s great, on par with Limbaugh or Levin in my opinion.

racquetballer on December 17, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Limbaugh & Levin think insults are equal to intelligence & wisdom.
They’re bomb-throwers & entertainers.

Steyn? He’s a genius, the greatest political commentator evah.

itsnotaboutme on December 17, 2011 at 9:01 PM

How does Newt define great, when he is talking about presidents?

You never hear the specifics about what Newt said about FDR, just that he’s a FDR lover.

Dr. Tesla on December 17, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Rick Perry or Rick Santorum…that’s the answer…

Minorcan Maven on December 17, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Steyn essentially just compared Newt Gingrich to Stalin, but you are accusing Limbaugh and Levin of being the bomb throwers?

Define irony.

Dr. Tesla on December 17, 2011 at 9:02 PM

I think Anne Coulter has jumped the shark. She says the Tea Party won’t support Romney because they want someone “who is going to go around bombastically demanding to see Obama’s birth certificate or calling him a Kenyan.”
Cindy Munford on December 17, 2011 at 9:00 PM

It’s called hyperbole.
She means they’re seeking a bomb-thrower like Limbaugh.
Or like Coulter.

itsnotaboutme on December 17, 2011 at 9:03 PM

The Facts that:
Newt worked hard and ushered in a Republican majority after 40 years in the wilderness,
Balanced the budget under Clintoon rule,
forced welfare reform after two vetoes,
indicates more conservative accomplishments during his tenor than have occurred under two Bush terms and an Obama one.
It is well argued by Trump no less that the ineptitude of Rove, Bush and Congress during Bush tenor allowed the election of the most radically left President ever along with a veto proof senate and majority in the house.
The poorly prosecuted wars and rampant spending turned the American electorate against Republicans

ConcealedKerry on December 17, 2011 at 9:03 PM

Cindy Munford on December 17, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Coulter’s been in the Beltway too long. She has become a major disappointment.

predator on December 17, 2011 at 9:04 PM

“People have deluded themselves that Newt is a conservative.”

Punchenko and I agree that Newt delusion is in abundance on this site.

Basilsbest on December 17, 2011 at 9:04 PM

This is ridiculous. The man has a freaking 90% ACU rating. Sure, he’s not perfect, but the guy led the Republicans in reforming the only entitlement that’s been reformed in history.

Yeah, he’s a totalitarian though, I’m sure the conservative Congress well just let him be a fascist or something.

cpaulus on December 17, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Who gives a crap about ratings? Are you satisfied where we are right now? 70% of many people’s earnings are confiscated by taxes (federal/state income taxes, gas tax, phone tax, tolls, sales tax, property tax, utility tax…..)? Do you only blame liberals for that? Pragmatism is only good to a point, there comes a time when lines are not discernable. I have grown to hate the pseudo (Bush/McCain/Gingrich/Romney/Huntsman/Christie/Pataki/Bloomburg/Whitman/Graham/Hatch) conservatives in our midst. At least the socialists are up front with their BS.

noeastern on December 17, 2011 at 9:04 PM

Romney supporters spend entire threads calling anyone who disparages their candidate “RINO,” “Bigot,” “liberal,” “America hater,” and all sorts of other ad hom stuff, and then when a negative post about Newt shows up they start off with crap like this:

Mark Steyn to be called a RINO and/or a sellout in 3…2…

GOPRanknFile on December 17, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Purge Mark Steyn – “Establishment RINO”

swamp_yankee on December 17, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Pot…meet kettle.

29Victor on December 17, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Steyn essentially just compared Newt Gingrich to Stalin

Dr. Tesla on December 17, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Steyn clearly said that Newt’s totalitarianism is good-intentioned, not like Stalin’s evil.

itsnotaboutme on December 17, 2011 at 9:05 PM

But I would probably take Newt over Romney if they are the only two left standing. Primarily because I think Newt is more of a fighter.

predator on December 17, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Agreed…

… I will cast my vote when it is time, and I suggest the rest of you do as well (for the candidate of your choice).

Whomever wins…

… that is the person that I will then support and vote for, because this country will not last four more years of Obowma and Eric Holder.

The arguments and attacks should be focused on Obowma, et al. first, then pro for whomever you like…

… these attacks only help Obowma.

Seven Percent Solution on December 17, 2011 at 9:06 PM

It’s called hyperbole.
She means they’re seeking a bomb-thrower like Limbaugh.
Or like Coulter.

itsnotaboutme on December 17, 2011 at 9:03 PM

I wish I could believe that, but I don’t. She has taken a turn to for the worst, imo.

predator on December 17, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Ann Coulter was telling us to support the bombastic Chris Christie or Romney would be our nominee and we would lose. This was like 9 months ago. That goes down the memory hole, I guess, with Ann. Now we need the meek mild mannered Mitt and only he can win, and Gingrich is the devil.

I couldn’t be a pundit if it means being altering your points of views based on the candidates on the table.

Dr. Tesla on December 17, 2011 at 9:06 PM

This is ridiculous. The man has a freaking 90% ACU rating.

cpaulus on December 17, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Which tells you all you need to know about what a bulls**t organization the ACU is.

MadisonConservative on December 17, 2011 at 9:07 PM

America under Obama, full communism in 10 new laws.

America under Gingrich, Quasi-totalitarian state in 2432 new laws.

America under Romney, Quasi-totalitarian state in 203948 new laws.

Vote for the one which has the least likely chance to go anywhere near communism/totalitarian or none at all.

tjexcite on December 17, 2011 at 9:07 PM

WE ARE SO SCREWED!!!! I can’t stand either one! The only saving grace for Newt is he is willing to take it to Obammy!

lisa fox on December 17, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Conservatives eating their own. No wonder Obama got elected.

HopeHeFails

One of the thinnest opinions to grace the pages of HA. Sorry, if you don’t understand how 2008 and this election differ, then you really shouldn’t have signed up.

chimney sweep on December 17, 2011 at 9:08 PM

Newt tends to shoot first and aim later

Kini on December 17, 2011 at 9:08 PM

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