Suspended for “Tebowing”?

posted at 2:50 pm on December 16, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

There’s nothing like parental and/or school overreaction to a momentary fad for headlines and commentary, is there?  Whether it’s the overblown “sexting” craze, “rainbow parties,” or the pregnancy pact that spawned a really bad TV movie, it’s always a moment for immediate action — which isn’t to say that some action is entirely unwarranted.  In New York, a high school has suspended some of its students for creating a “hallway hazard” for …. Tebowing:

The Tebow mania sweeping the nation sacked a group of Long Island high-school students who were suspended for mimicking the quarterback’s famous prayer pose.

Twin brothers Tyler and Connor Carroll of Riverhead HS and classmates Jordan Fulcoly and Wayne Drexel were hit with one-day suspensions for kneeling and bowing their heads like Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow does when he scores a touchdown.

Administrators said the weeklong “Tebowing” craze was a distraction and a hallway hazard after dozens of classmates followed their lead. …

About 40 students had been gathering in the hallway all week emulating Tebow.

School administrators said the stunt jammed the hallway, making students late for class, and was a fire hazard.

“This is not about religious discrimination,” said Riverhead School District Superintendent Nancy Carney. “It is about being sure kids are able to get to class on time and keeping the kids safe and orderly.”

Well, just how dangerous was it?  Having 40 students kneeling in the hallway certainly generates a distraction and arguably a fire hazard, too. Tebow fans at the school could have conducted their demonstration at recess out in an open space rather than the hallways, so the school has a legitimate beef. However, it hardly seems like the kind of “dangerous” situation that warrants suspensions.  The school claims they warned the brothers to stop, which the brothers dispute, but a detention or two would have sufficed, at least in the sense of having the punishment fit the crime. The school appears to have lost some perspective in their haste to stem the Tebow tide.

Fox News devoted a segment to it today, and Judge Andrew Napolitano explains that the school couldn’t punish students for actual prayer, but they certainly could for just honoring an athlete in a disruptive manner:


The school needs to keep the hallways clear, but suspending students for Tebowing is a bit of an overreaction, especially for a passing fad like this. I’m not sure how it will survive Denver’s game with New England this week, anyway.


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Christianity=Dangerous
islam=Peace

Yes, it is a messed up world we live in.

wildcat72 on December 16, 2011 at 2:52 PM

but suspending students for Tebowing

Um, schools are suspending kids for calling a teacher “cute” and for bringing aspirin to school. You really find this unbelievable?

lorien1973 on December 16, 2011 at 2:52 PM

I’m not sure how it will survive Denver’s game with New England this week, anyway.

Atheist scumbag.

lorien1973 on December 16, 2011 at 2:52 PM

Yea, I’m a total Pats fan, but absolutely hate to see Tebow lose :-/

preallocated on December 16, 2011 at 2:53 PM

wildcat72 on December 16, 2011 at 2:52 PM

IMHO that’s what this really boild down to. What would the school do if muslims decided to pray in the halls as they do in the streets, obstructing traffic?

Just asking…

dogsoldier on December 16, 2011 at 2:54 PM

I have seen congestion by High School students, trust me it is frightening. As for this case, who knows what standard of punishment is the norm from this superintendent.

rob verdi on December 16, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Congress shall make now law respecting an (Got that, an, not THE, Not Any, AN) establishment of Religion, (see the comma there?) nor limiting the free exercise therof.

Somehow, we have gotten to the place wherein far too many people are today willing to Limit the Free Exercise Therof in the name of Not Establishing.

==========

I wonder how this story would have gone had they rolled out some rugs pointed toward Mecca instead?

jaydee_007 on December 16, 2011 at 2:56 PM

Can you really blame the school? It is going to take some speedbumps like this before we all get used to flash-fads made possible by the internet and almost universal and instant personal communications.

Just another growing pain, I think. Admittedly, the authoritarian nature of our public employees does provide for entertainment for those not directly afflicted.

Mord on December 16, 2011 at 2:57 PM

Let’s pretend the same kids laid flat on the floor under a sign that said “Killed in Imperialist Wars.” They no doubt would’ve gotten a standing ovation from the school’s administration.

RBMN on December 16, 2011 at 2:57 PM

dogsoldier,
suspend them or give them detention in all likelihood, many admins are flexible in regards to religion circumstances, but breaking rules would not be accepted by any rational administrator.

rob verdi on December 16, 2011 at 2:57 PM

Christianity=Dangerous
islam=Peace

Yes, it is a messed up world we live in.

wildcat72 on December 16, 2011 at 2:52 PM

Amen to that!

Flora Duh on December 16, 2011 at 2:58 PM

ok to dress your women up in a tent with eye slits and prvoide footwashes and time for praying to mecca but heaven forbid you show any kind of homage to a non terrorist religion.

acyl72 on December 16, 2011 at 2:58 PM

Dangerous?

In a rebelious revolutionary kind of way.

Showing reverence to Jesus for a minute gets one expelled.

Bowing in an Easterly direction in reverence to Allah, that gets one special relgious considerations.

Hmmm…

Lawrence on December 16, 2011 at 2:58 PM

Lol I grew up in riverhead!

Represent!!!

blatantblue on December 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM

The current public school system needs to be abolish. Replace it with a system that actually work.

jdun on December 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM

And the OWS crew gets to blatantly break the law??

michaelo on December 16, 2011 at 3:00 PM

Tebowing is a mocking gesture.

I’m not sure what the harm is in punishing it.

Do we want schools to be able to discipline kids or not? If so, we should stop feeding the outrageous outrage.

(I know, government schools punishing people is creepy, but the solution is to end government run schools not a basic requirement of education–discipline.)

Nessuno on December 16, 2011 at 3:01 PM

Let’s pretend the same kids laid flat on the floor under a sign that said “Killed in Imperialist Wars.” They no doubt would’ve gotten a standing ovation from the school’s administration.

RBMN on December 16, 2011 at 2:57 PM

Or on prayer rugs bowing toward Mecca.

Flora Duh on December 16, 2011 at 3:01 PM

There is only one thing that will straighten out the school systems
in this country.Billions of dollars more.

Signed:

Every School Board in the Country

docflash on December 16, 2011 at 3:02 PM

Instead of Tebowing, I think if the students had blocked the hallway while banging on drums and defecating on some lockers it would have been interpreted as OK

DaveDief on December 16, 2011 at 3:02 PM

Biggest scum

Schadenfreude on December 16, 2011 at 3:03 PM

The current public school system needs to be abolish. Replace it with a system that actually work.

jdun on December 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM

I’m assuming you are a product of the public school system? haha I joke!

dernst2 on December 16, 2011 at 3:03 PM

Looks more like that famous statue “The Thinker”.
MMMMM, Maybe its both !

Jabberwock on December 16, 2011 at 3:03 PM

School administrators said the stunt jammed the hallway, making students late for class, and was a fire hazard.

“This is not about religious discrimination,” said Riverhead School District Superintendent Nancy Carney. “It is about being sure kids are able to get to class on time and keeping the kids safe and orderly.”

No. it’s about you being a politically correct mind-numbingly dumb jackass.

I can only hope one of the first orders of the next President will be to eliminate the Dept. of Education. Let’s start there.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on December 16, 2011 at 3:03 PM

A “fire hazard?” Really? That’s the reason?!

Please. Saying it’s a “fire hazard” is about as weak as “a dog ate my homework.”

JohnTant on December 16, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Did anyone that are in a huff about “persecuting Christianity” watch the whole video, or just read the headline?

Those kids were having a laugh, their faces were all red and they lined up in order to block the hallway. It had nothing to do with religion, it was a gag based on an internet joke. Sure, the school over-reacted but they always do. Relax.

Mord on December 16, 2011 at 3:05 PM

The school needs to keep the hallways clear, but suspending students for Tebowing is a bit of an overreaction, especially for a passing fad like this. I’m not sure how it will survive Denver’s game with New England this week, anyway.

Getting down on one knee and praying will never be a passing “fad”.

Don’t be quick to think that NE is going to put a hurt on Denver Sunday. Tom Brady has a career 1-5 record against the Broncos.

RedRobin145 on December 16, 2011 at 3:06 PM

I wouldn’t stand for it either. But I would have called mom or dad out of work to come get their little darling and make sure they know what happens next if it happens again.

john1schn on December 16, 2011 at 3:07 PM

I think you missed the good bit on this one, Mr. Morrissey. Here’s the good bit:

From Drudge’s linked ESPN version:

Reports said that the students had been Tebowing all week, starting Monday. It was meant to be a joke, only paying homage to one of pro football’s newest stars. But other students started joining in and administrators claimed it had become a disturbance. District officials reportedly told the students that the celebration was making it unsafe for students walking the hall in between classes.

The incident saw about 40 students engaging in the popular Tebowing. Only the four students, all athletes, were suspended. Caroll told Prep Rally that the administration told them “that our Tebowing was blocking the halls and could potentially cause a riot, because they were growing in number and if the wrong kid gets pushed a brawl could ensue.

Emphasis mine.

Apparently, their student body resembles a prison population and is managed commensurately.

Axe on December 16, 2011 at 3:08 PM

The school needs to keep the hallways clear, but suspending students for Tebowing is a bit of an overreaction, especially for a passing fad like this. I’m not sure how it will survive Denver’s game with New England this week, anyway.

I dunno about that. Remember that Tebow’s going up against Tom Brady, who two-timed the mother of his child with his supermodel wife. And last week, Brady used a swear word on the sidelines. That may just tip the scales toward the Broncos.

j/k

L.N. Smithee on December 16, 2011 at 3:08 PM

ok to dress your women up in a tent with eye slits and prvoide footwashes and time for praying to mecca but heaven forbid you show any kind of homage to a non terrorist religion.

acyl72 on December 16, 2011 at 2:58 PM

So you and the Islamics share the idea that women are your property? How quaint

Btw where in the article did it mention this action was driven by a Muslim?

Bradky on December 16, 2011 at 3:09 PM

they really should have been expelled! and also, don’t forget to watch ALL AMERICAN MUSLIM this sunday night because they are just like you and bake cookies and wear head to toe clothing in 90 degree weather.

GhoulAid on December 16, 2011 at 3:09 PM

If they are blocking the hallway and making people late for class, they are in the wrong. If they told them to knock it off and the didn’t, yeah, suspend them.

Blake on December 16, 2011 at 3:09 PM

I can only hope one of the first orders of the next President will be to eliminate the Dept. of Education. Let’s start there.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on December 16, 2011 at 3:03 PM

Because the Dept of Ed has power at the local school board level right? /sarc

Bradky on December 16, 2011 at 3:10 PM

this is so wonderful and that the school couldn’t punish students for actual prayer, but they certainly could for just honoring an athlete in a disruptive manner; wonderful- it IS what schools do.
(Think Pink Floyd- The Wall) Did anyone video it for You Tube? I hope the two that are on the footbal team will do it during a game, that is if Tebow survives the New England (Boston) Tebow, er, uh TEAbow party this weekend as Ed said.
and BTW, Ed, you could have that pun if you want. Please view it
as present for letting me register this past open session.

Trebuchet on December 16, 2011 at 3:10 PM

They leave muslims alone because they’re afraid of them. Maybe they should start being afraid of Christians. Christians won a few crusades.

Kaffa on December 16, 2011 at 3:10 PM

They’re being penalized, these students, because “Tebowing” references a Christian engaged in prayers of a Christian devotional nature.

If they were, say, doing handstands for some ‘Rainbow Collective’ or similar, they’d be rewarded with a speech by and administrator in the auditorium.

Lourdes on December 16, 2011 at 3:11 PM

Maybe there was not a whole lot of people but I am impressed with the number that did stop and observe. There is a lot of spiritually starving souls out there.

chickie on December 16, 2011 at 3:11 PM

It had nothing to do with religion, it was a gag based on an internet joke. Sure, the school over-reacted but they always do. Relax.

Mord on December 16, 2011 at 3:05 PM

One of the kids interviewed said they did it to honor Tim Tebow, and he seemed awfully sincere about it.

Given the location of the school and who Denver is playing this weekend, I’m inclined to believe wholeheartedly that they are actively cheering for Tebow to hand a defeat to the Patriots.

JohnTant on December 16, 2011 at 3:11 PM

“This is not about religious discrimination,” said Riverhead School District Superintendent Nancy Carney. “It is about being sure kids are able to get to class on time and keeping the kids safe and orderly.”

I’m sure the superintendent’s explanation would have been perfectly acceptable had the kids been muslims facing Mecca prostrate on their prayer rugs inconveniently blocking the path of students eager to get to class. Right?

hawkeye54 on December 16, 2011 at 3:11 PM

Uh, that’s not “Tebowing” – it’s called “praying”.

wdkeller on December 16, 2011 at 3:11 PM

The kids should have just said they were, “Occupying the Hallway”.

Then brought in tents the next day.

taznar on December 16, 2011 at 3:13 PM

the pregnancy pact that spawned a really bad TV movie

Yeah, inexplicable that they let the boring a$$ blogger who ‘broke the story’ be the centerpiece of the film. Awful!

re: The Tebowing students, I love this show of youthful ingenuity, and think the suspensions were incredibly stupid. The principal would have done better to ask the kids to only kneel, single file, at the walls on either side of the hallways, leaving open the broad center for foot traffic. Or, outside during lunch, like Ed said. Too bad it’s now blown into a Tempest in a Tebow. :)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on December 16, 2011 at 3:13 PM

I’m not sure how it will survive Denver’s game with New England this week, anyway.

No worries, once they face a real team like the Raiders, Jets, Bears, Patriots this whole Tebow thing will be over.

Right?

I’m not saying you’re definitely wrong; but you do need to accept the company you’re in with this call.

gekkobear on December 16, 2011 at 3:13 PM

OOPS! Wrong thread, sorry! :)

chickie on December 16, 2011 at 3:13 PM

Is the school at fault for not setting up a classroom as a Tebow room? Just wondering

apostic on December 16, 2011 at 3:14 PM

They leave muslims alone because they’re afraid of them. Maybe they should start being afraid of Christians. Christians won a few crusades.

Kaffa on December 16, 2011 at 3:10 PM

The Left really is engaged in ongoing efforts to provoke a violent response. They WANT a violent response by Christians, who the Left is sure, SURE, is at the ready with armed camps and various gun-clinging at the ready.

The ONLY people I EVER see or hear causing “community” or area-impacting social conflict are: Muslims, Hispanics and Blacks.

Just yesterday, the power was out in my area on a planned, schedule power outage (for utility work — they sent out two mailed notices about it weeks in advance).

The ONLY person I saw literally running in the street yelling at anyone and everyone was a Muslim: “MY power is out, MY power is out, who did this to me?!” was her complaint. She was literally running in the street yelling at anyone in earshot, scarfed and hijabbed.

Lourdes on December 16, 2011 at 3:15 PM

The ONLY people I EVER see or hear causing “community” or area-impacting social conflict are: Muslims, Hispanics and Blacks.

Just yesterday, the power was out in my area on a planned, schedule power outage (for utility work — they sent out two mailed notices about it weeks in advance).

The ONLY person I saw literally running in the street yelling at anyone and everyone was a Muslim: “MY power is out, MY power is out, who did this to me?!” was her complaint. She was literally running in the street yelling at anyone in earshot, scarfed and hijabbed.

Lourdes on December 16, 2011 at 3:15 PM

I meant to include the fact that she was both Hispanic AND Muslim.

Lourdes on December 16, 2011 at 3:16 PM

Apparently, their student body resembles a prison population and is managed commensurately.

Axe on December 16, 2011 at 3:08 PM

Well, good portion of the student body in Riverhead town is…prison-like.

My best friend subs there and is telling me only half the story is out there.

blatantblue on December 16, 2011 at 3:17 PM

Apparently, their student body resembles a prison population and is managed commensurately.

Well, it is Long Island…

Look, the schools are damned if they do, damned if they don’t. On the one hand, people want them to get back to basics and just stick to teaching, and on the other, they now have to be all things to all people and answer to those who politicize every breath their child takes.

I’m with them. The kids had their fun for a few days, it’s getting out of control and creating a distraction, and now it’s time to stop.

Enough is enough with this “tebowing” stuff, anyway. It no longer has anything to do with Christ, football or Tim Tebow. It’s the new planking, is all. If you wouldn’t allow students to plank en masse in the school hallways, then you shouldn’t allow students to tebow en masse.

Carolina21 on December 16, 2011 at 3:17 PM

Did anyone that are in a huff about “persecuting Christianity” watch the whole video, or just read the headline?

Those kids were having a laugh, their faces were all red and they lined up in order to block the hallway. It had nothing to do with religion, it was a gag based on an internet joke. Sure, the school over-reacted but they always do. Relax.

Mord on December 16, 2011 at 3:05 PM

i think christians will keep claiming persecution until they understand that this whole fad is a joke on them

nathor on December 16, 2011 at 3:18 PM

I’m not sure how it will survive Denver’s game with New England this week, anyway.

Tasteless comment.

No worries, AllahP. God believes in you, whether you believe in him or not.

Ugly on December 16, 2011 at 3:18 PM

Good the students. They are exercising their rights.
A right unexercised is a right lost. They have every right to pray. their parents should sue the CRAP out of the school for infringing on their GOD given constitutional rights!

ColdWarrior57 on December 16, 2011 at 3:19 PM

Given the location of the school and who Denver is playing this weekend, I’m inclined to believe wholeheartedly that they are actively cheering for Tebow to hand a defeat to the Patriots.

JohnTant on December 16, 2011 at 3:11 PM

That is what I am saying. It was a prank by student athletes to get attention and it started getting boisterous, so they kicked the kids who started it all out of school for a day. Now they have an extra helping of homework, waaahhh.

I swear, sometimes you folks can make the left seem like people with reasonable complaints.

Mord on December 16, 2011 at 3:19 PM

Well, it is Long Island…

WHOA hey now what the heck does that mean, lady?

blatantblue on December 16, 2011 at 3:20 PM

And last week, Brady used a swear word on the sidelines. That may just tip the scales toward the Broncos.

I hope so. Us longtime Dolphin’s fans have never forgotten, nor forgiven, this.

/

Flora Duh on December 16, 2011 at 3:20 PM

Is the school at fault for not setting up a classroom as a Tebow room? Just wondering

apostic on December 16, 2011 at 3:14 PM

Excellent point. I’ve often wondered similar myself. Christians are routinely prevented from so much as identifying as such or mentioning (and doing) just about everything that identifies one as such, while, Islam, particularly, seems to get all their demands for infrastructures and separations for religious purposes met.

Public schools even provide special “washup” areas now for Muslims so they can wash feet, hands and faces before their five-daily prayer rituals. Everyone else pays for it.

Lourdes on December 16, 2011 at 3:20 PM

From the ESPN reporting on this (WARNING: automatic video playback at link):

Carney said that she supported the administration’s efforts to maintain a safe environment and was surprised that the incident has received this much attention. Since the news broke, Carney said she has been receiving hate mail from people charging that the suspension is due to religious prejudice.

“It’s very unsettling,” she told ESPNNewYork.com on Thursday. “It’s a shame that people out there are so ready to judge when they weren’t there to see what happened.”

Emphasized for its common sense, which is apparently lacking here (particularly on slow news days).

DaveS on December 16, 2011 at 3:20 PM

IF . . . . . . I were in charge of any building, anywhere, I would have to agree with the premise that “persons stopping in a hallway and kneeling down for ANY reason, constitutes a hazard. In a school, I would want a room set aside for the purpose (US Supreme Court be damned).

But the really BEST idea is this one:

The current public school system needs to be abolish. Replace it with a system that actually work.

jdun on December 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM

Now you’re talkin’.

listens2glenn on December 16, 2011 at 3:20 PM

Does anyone actually buy the hall blocking excuse? This was about religion. Denying it is absurd.

TheLastBrainLeft on December 16, 2011 at 3:21 PM

And what was that I remember from a few years ago about airline terminals “having to” provide ‘special prayer rooms’ for Muslims?

Lourdes on December 16, 2011 at 3:21 PM

As soon as I saw that title picture I had to wip this up.

Washington…Tebowing at Valley Forge

tjexcite on December 16, 2011 at 3:23 PM

“It’s very unsettling,” she told ESPNNewYork.com on Thursday. “It’s a shame that people out there are so ready to judge when they weren’t there to see what happened.”
Emphasized for its common sense, which is apparently lacking here (particularly on slow news days).

DaveS on December 16, 2011 at 3:20 PM

COMMON SENSE TELLS ME THAT CHRISTIANITY GET SLAMMED EVERY WHICH WAY WHEN OTHER “RELIGIONS” GET A PASS.

Emphasized for the way it is in this society.

GhoulAid on December 16, 2011 at 3:23 PM

i think christians will keep claiming persecution until they understand that this whole fad is a joke on them

nathor on December 16, 2011 at 3:18 PM

Yeah this is one of only a couple times I disagree with a majority of HA posters on a topic. “Tebowing”, like “Planking” will fade out just as quickly. Remember the “planking Death #1,265″ meme from a couple of months ago?

Mord on December 16, 2011 at 3:24 PM

WHOA hey now what the heck does that mean, lady?

I’m from Queens originally, so I was just having a little fun. :)

Carolina21 on December 16, 2011 at 3:25 PM

i think christians will keep claiming persecution until they understand that this whole fad is a joke on them

nathor on December 16, 2011 at 3:18 PM

I know no one who prays as a “joke.”

Tebowing may be, understandably, a ‘fad’ in the sense that a sports hero has set a standard of behavior that others are emulating, but, it doesn’t inherently mean that there’s anything artificial or insincere occurring in the act of bowing to pray, or in the prayers themselves.

Lourdes on December 16, 2011 at 3:25 PM

I’m from Queens originally, so I was just having a little fun. :)

Carolina21 on December 16, 2011 at 3:25 PM

Where about? My family is Queen bred on madre’s side.

blatantblue on December 16, 2011 at 3:26 PM

I’m assuming you are a product of the public school system? haha I joke!
dernst2 on December 16, 2011 at 3:03 PM

Well, yeah. And I’m a little sensitive about it, so I’ll thank you NOT to point it out.

listens2glenn on December 16, 2011 at 3:27 PM

If they were tea-bagging they would’ve been lauded.

SouthernGent on December 16, 2011 at 3:27 PM

Even if her argument that it had nothing to do with religion holds water, the point is that she overreacted, like a typical paper-pusher.

You know what, have the brains at least to come up with a better excuse for suspending – not even detention – but suspending these kids.

Common sense is a terrible thing to waste.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on December 16, 2011 at 3:28 PM

Uh, that’s not “Tebowing” – it’s called “praying”.

wdkeller on December 16, 2011 at 3:11 PM

No, that was “Tebowing”. When you watch the video the kid says he did it to honor Tim Tebow. When I pray, I do it to honor God. There is a big difference.

milibertarian on December 16, 2011 at 3:28 PM

Enough is enough with this “tebowing” stuff, anyway. It no longer has anything to do with Christ, football or Tim Tebow. It’s the new planking, is all.

Carolina21 on December 16, 2011 at 3:17 PM

I disagree. Tim Tebow has set a standard of sincerity in prayer — disregard for public or private criticism by others about his faith and prayer activities — and though some have emulated him as a joke or in insincerity to the act of bowing and “simulating” prayer, most won’t and don’t ever approach prayer with insincerity.

Though ‘fad,’ it’s not necessarily an insipid act by those engaged in it: “fad” in the sense that others are now engaging in Tebow’s actions with shared value for the act involved.

Lourdes on December 16, 2011 at 3:29 PM

Does anyone actually buy the hall blocking excuse? This was about religion. Denying it is absurd.

TheLastBrainLeft on December 16, 2011 at 3:21 PM

You have no idea what you’re talking about. As someone above posted, pretend they had instead claimed to be “occupying the hallway” and all of the mindless drones here would be cheering on the suspension. They were disrupting other students (video), had been warned (allegedly), and had allegedly defied the school administrators by continuing to do it. If all of that is true, the suspensions were arguably deserved–especially if they had been warned of the suspensions.

And no, “Tebowing” is not praying or religious in anyway.

DaveS on December 16, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Where about? My family is Queen bred on madre’s side.

Jackson Heights, which is closer to the city than it is to the Island, but we always made fun of the LonGisland kids at our Catholic prep schools growing up. Haven’t lived in NY for years, though.

Carolina21 on December 16, 2011 at 3:30 PM

keeping the kids safe and orderly.”

That’s what it’s really about. Control. Easier to force-feed them liberal BS and teach-to-the-test if they can’t express themselves in a way deemed too expressive, a way that suggests they have autonomy from the teachers and administration.

deepelemblues on December 16, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Agree with Mord. Planking was a huge fad, then some goofy owling pose and now Tebowing. The fact the kids are doing it during passsing period gives it away.

snowcrash on December 16, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Apparently, their student body resembles a prison population and is managed commensurately.
Axe on December 16, 2011 at 3:08 PM

It sure does and IS.

listens2glenn on December 16, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Sorry – not going to boohoo because a couple of bratty hs boys got one day suspensions for doing something the school authorities told them to stop because it was disruptive.

Hallways are crowded enough at most hs without the addition of 40+ kneeling 170 pound boys. They had to know that they were blocking traffic and probably could care less about Tebow’s reason for doing it. Or were they thanking God for a bathroom pass?

Seems like a lot of people are jumping to “oh- they’re bashing Christianity.

katiejane on December 16, 2011 at 3:32 PM

I’m not sure how it will survive Denver’s game with New England this week, anyway.

Oh, it will.

Mirimichi on December 16, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Tebow fans at the school could have conducted their demonstration at recess out in an open space rather than the hallways, so the school has a legitimate beef.

You had recess in your high school?

I didn’t get any recess after 6th grade.

I feel gypped.

ButterflyDragon on December 16, 2011 at 3:33 PM

The revealing point about “Tebowing” is that the criticism of Tim Tebow and his prayer activity has been taken seriously, while his faith isn’t.

Lourdes on December 16, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Carolina21 on December 16, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Lawn-GUY-Laaaand

blatantblue on December 16, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Well, good portion of the student body in Riverhead town is…prison-like.

My best friend subs there and is telling me only half the story is out there.

blatantblue on December 16, 2011 at 3:17 PM

Wasn’t sure how you’d like that line; I winced a bit when I saw you up there :)

And I guess I really, really, really needed to use a “sarc” tag. I tried to be over the top enough, but I’m not sure I made it.

I’m thinking “over-reaction” (shrug).

Axe on December 16, 2011 at 3:35 PM

CAN WE HOME SCHOOL EVERYONE?

KOOLAID2 on December 16, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Seems like a lot of people are jumping to “oh- they’re bashing Christianity.“

katiejane on December 16, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Well, they are.

And a long history of “bashing of Christianity” by the Left, especially via public education and in public areas, is well documented by now.

Lourdes on December 16, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Looked to me like the kids were blocking the hall as other kids were trying to make their way to class. They did it several times. It’s a hazard, it’s disruptive and to some extent dangerous for others. They could have Tebowed off to the sides, after school, anywhere but in the halls during change of class. I hate the public school system, I love prayer and Time Tebow. But these kids did something good the wrong way. Suspension, not so sure bout that. This crime doesn’t fit this punishment.

dakota on December 16, 2011 at 3:36 PM

Way to keep the meme alive Riverhead HS

multiuseless on December 16, 2011 at 3:38 PM

Tebow fans at the school could have conducted their demonstration at recess out in an open space rather than the hallways, so the school has a legitimate beef.

High schools have recess now?

Anyway, regarding Tebowing…if someone is really praying, I think it is great. However, if someone is striking a pose so others can see, I think it is mocking prayer.

cptacek on December 16, 2011 at 3:38 PM

My best friend subs there and is telling me only half the story is out there.

blatantblue on December 16, 2011 at 3:17 PM

Shh… nobody here cares. You’re ruining an excellent opportunity to whine like morons. Don’t blow it!

Again, from the article:

Carney said she has been receiving hate mail from people charging that the suspension is due to religious prejudice. “It’s very unsettling,” she told ESPNNewYork.com on Thursday. “It’s a shame that people out there are so ready to judge when they weren’t there to see what happened.”

She’s talking about all of you know-nothing clowns who are pretending to be upset about this. You sound like idiots.

DaveS on December 16, 2011 at 3:39 PM

It sure does and IS.

listens2glenn on December 16, 2011 at 3:32 PM

That’s two. Is it really that tough? I was being a smart*****. So, maybe “they might riot” was legit?

Axe on December 16, 2011 at 3:39 PM

That’s what it’s really about. Control. Easier to force-feed them liberal BS and teach-to-the-test if they can’t express themselves in a way deemed too expressive, a way that suggests they have autonomy from the teachers and administration.
deepelemblues on December 16, 2011 at 3:31 PM

I’ve been trying to convince people for years now, that this is what PUBLIC school was always intended for.
It’s a (but not the only) definition of indoctrination.

listens2glenn on December 16, 2011 at 3:40 PM

At the school where I work, we haven’t had any Tebowing yet but we have had to put a stop to other sorts of fads. We had to tell kids they could no longer wear the “I Boobies” shirts to school during Breast Cancer Awareness month because it was becoming such a distraction in the classroom. Of course the first students who start this sort of thing are usually sincere but after that you have the rest of the kids piling on to see what they can get away with. There is no doubt in my mind that 40 kids kneeling in the hall would cause the school to be dinged by the fire marshal. We aren’t even allowed to use door stops to keep our doors open lest they impede traffic in the hallway.

That said, I think that the students were probably told they had to stop and go back to class and not do it again. The ringleaders probably got detention for causing disruption to the school day but when they refused to stop, then, they were guilty of insubordination and got suspended.

Lily on December 16, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Anyway, regarding Tebowing…if someone is really praying, I think it is great. However, if someone is striking a pose so others can see, I think it is mocking prayer.

cptacek on December 16, 2011 at 3:38 PM

You’re kidding, right? I know that you don’t hold out hope that huge groups of high school kids are simultaneously dropping to a knee in the middle of the hallway between classes and having an intimate little conversation with God. Seriously?

DaveS on December 16, 2011 at 3:41 PM

I bet the school wouldn’t suspend Muslims that kneel to pray.

eski502 on December 16, 2011 at 3:43 PM

Tebowing is a mocking gesture.

I’m not sure what the harm is in punishing it.

Do we want schools to be able to discipline kids or not? If so, we should stop feeding the outrageous outrage.

(I know, government schools punishing people is creepy, but the solution is to end government run schools not a basic requirement of education–discipline.)

Nessuno on December 16, 2011 at 3:01 PM

Suspension, is denying a student the right to attend classes and be educated. Mockery being suspend-able infraction seems quite harsh. I used to get after school detention for things like that or my parents would be called at home. I would get suspended for things like fighting or breaking something. The rules for suspending students have sure changed. It seems there are other motivating factors for suspending the students rather than just mockery.

Egfrow on December 16, 2011 at 3:45 PM

Axe on December 16, 2011 at 3:39 PM

Sorry if I misunderstood you (it happens), but I really do think of our Public Schools as being managed like (but not identical to) prisons.

listens2glenn on December 16, 2011 at 3:46 PM

I bet “devil’s horns” are fine though right? Every two bit actress and phony rock star throws that sign around like they’re Ozzy on acid.

These kids should sue for CR violations. The threat and costs to the district will be instructive.

Capitalist Hog on December 16, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Tebowing is a mocking gesture.

Nessuno on December 16, 2011 at 3:01 PM

No, it is not. For some reason though that has become the common (mis)conception. “Tebowing” was started by a Denver Broncos – and Tim Tebow – fan. Of course there are people doing it as a form of mockery but that is inconsistent with the spirit with which it began.

“Tebowing” is the brainchild of Jared Kleinstein, 24, a real-estate marketer in New York City who was raised in Denver, where he grew into a devoted sports fan. Mr. Kleinstein, who is Jewish, just wanted to pay tribute to the inspirational quarterback of his favorite team. He launched Tebowing.com from Manhattan in October, on the night after Mr. Tebow led the Broncos to victory over the Miami Dolphins.

“We were at a bar watching the game,” he says, “and when he came back to win, everybody was cheering like we won the Super Bowl, even though we had just beat the last-place team in the league.” Mr. Kleinstein noticed that as the Bronco players were jumping up and down on the sidelines, Mr. Tebow took a knee in prayer. He snapped a picture of himself and his friends doing the same, called it “Tebowing,” then created the site and sent it to eight people.

Within 48 hours, Mr. Kleinstein had been interviewed by this paper, CBS, Fox, ABC and other media outlets. The site has received millions of visits and page views in its short life. Mr. Kleinstein receives pictures of people Tebowing all day long, and often posts new pictures every hour.

With his site, Mr. Kleinstein says, “people found hope through a gesture,” noting a much-discussed photo that he posted of a young boy with an IV attached to his arm who wrote that he was “Tebowing while chemoing.” Mr. Kleinstein adds that a lot of support for the trend has come from rabbis. “It has made prayer in public something to not be ashamed of,” he says. “I think that crosses all religious boundaries.”

From WSJ article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203413304577084770973155282.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsTop

Threshing Flora on December 16, 2011 at 3:49 PM

The school appears to have lost some perspective in their haste to stem the Tebow tide.

The kids should get a prayer rug and toss that sucker down in the hall, face east and pray towards Mecca.

See what happens then.

BacaDog on December 16, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Instead of Tebowing, I think if the students had blocked the hallway while banging on drums and defecating on some lockers it would have been interpreted as OK

DaveDief on December 16, 2011 at 3:02 PM

Sad but true.

wi farmgirl on December 16, 2011 at 3:52 PM

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