Report: Dems, Obama agree to GOP’s Keystone pipeline provision
posted at 7:43 pm on December 16, 2011 by Allahpundit
So the rumblings about a cave-in were apparently true. Can’t find anything on the wires yet, but Guy Benson of Townhall hears from a “senior GOP source” that it’s a done deal and Fox News’s Chad Pergram quotes Lamar Alexander as saying, “We’re very pleased with the decision on the Keystone pipeline.” Benson:
Round one of this fight went to Obama. Round two, to the GOP. Round three? A TKO decision for Republicans. A senior GOP source tells me that Democrats have agreed to a two-month extension of the temporary payroll tax cuts — plus unemployment benefits and the “doc fix” — with some extra Christmas goodies for conservatives. Quote: “Two-month extension, PLUS Keystone. Fully paid for; no tax hikes. Hallelujah.”
Note that it’s not a comprehensive deal on the payroll tax, just a two-month extension, but that means there’ll be another opportunity for more goodies soon. Smells like victory, and yet … that possibility troubles my eeyorish mind. Let me throw you a pessimistic curveball cribbed from the comments in the other Keystone thread: What if Obama’s secretly been hoping for this outcome? His problem with the pipeline was that it forces him to choose between environmentalists and labor. He’d love to have those new jobs so that he has some teeny tiny economic accomplishment to tout next year, but he doesn’t want to tick off the greens by rubber-stamping approval of the pipeline. So instead he pretends to punt his decision until after the election, knowing full well that the GOP will take up the issue somehow in order to burnish their own jobs credentials. Now that they’ve done so and thrown it back in his lap, he can hug the greens and whisper a tender “I tried because I love you” in their ears before turning around and signing off on the pipeline in the name of economic recovery. In other words, the original punt was really just a fake punt and now he’s in the end zone. Dude, did we just get rolled by Obama?
I’m thinking no, we didn’t, because we get something out of this too on top of all those tasty jobs. Via Pew:

Do-nothing Congress = bad. Job-creating GOP-driven bipartisan achievements = good! Exit question via Tina, who sent this link to me in an e-mail: Everyone comfortable with the use of eminent domain to make this project happen?
Update (Tina): If Allahpundit’s eeyorish theory is right and the president planned this, his plan has already backfired. Environmentalists are still upset with him. From Politico Pro:
For greens, the fact that the Keystone pipeline was back on the table five weeks after Obama had seemingly punted it until 2013 is causing considerable heartburn with an administration that hasn’t been as green as they once wished.
Their initial win looked even better because it came just days after thousands circled the White House at a weekend protest that drew celebrity faces like actor Mark Ruffalo. But now Obama’s environmental allies again face the question of whether to withhold support for his reelection campaign.
“I think everyone will try to take a breath and see what the language is and what the State Department can do,” said Bill McKibben, the organizer of the November anti-Keystone protest. “But I think everyone will also feel really upset. Profoundly upset.”
“People literally put their bodies on the line and they thanked the president when they took him seriously,” McKibben added. “And the president said he was acting on principle and that it was important and if that resolve lasts five weeks and that’s it, if all it takes is Newt Gingrich getting up and expostulating San Francisco and environmental extremist for him to turn around, that’s really sad.”
Sierra Club president Michael Brune put it even more bluntly: “This is bulls–t,” he said. “This is no way to run a government.” Brune also hinted earlier this year that his group could shift money from the presidential race to congressional races if he’s not pleased with the president.
The more plausible theory for a cynic is the one Democrats themselves have openly stated: They’re hoping the two-month time frame for this deal is too short for the president to actually give the green light to the Keystone pipeline. After all, they say, the State Department is still in the midst of environmental reviews projected to take longer than 60 days. In other words, the president might approve the project in general now — but he and the State Department might yet step in to stop actual construction of the pipeline.
But even that seems like a stretch, desperate Democratic spin in the wake of a negotiation they clearly lost. As Guy’s senior GOP source also told me tonight, plenty of Dems are on record saying the pipeline won’t create as many jobs as projected — so, when it does, they’ll be hard put to share credit.
Last thought, regarding eminent domain: The same source reminds me state governments have a hand in approving the specific route of the pipeline. Nebraska, for example, has renegotiated the route with TransCanada. My own thought, then, is this: Savvy state governments should be able to work around the eminent domain issue.









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so we have to deal with this again in 2 months??
cmsinaz on December 16, 2011 at 9:24 PM
The bill only requires Obama to make a decision. It doesn’t require him to approve the pipeline. He can say no and then what will the GOP have won?
When the heck are the GOP going to start demanding that the eco-Marxist Left offer practical energy solutions instead of just blocking everything? When will the GOP point out that it is the poor and middle-class who are most harmed by the environmentalist wing of the Democrat party? The supposed party of the little guy.
When can we start seeing Secretary Chu’s quote regarding wanting to see European level prices or gas in the US?
prodigalson on December 16, 2011 at 9:27 PM
What? Does Obama feel that he owes his Saudi benefactors more than he does the American people: the nation’s taxpayers, its businesses, its workers, and its national security?
This pipeline proposal has undergone rigorous environmental testing, passing with flying colors. The State Department dodge in trying to put a kibbosh on the project certainly does not enhance good will with our northern neighbor and ally.
onlineanalyst on December 16, 2011 at 9:27 PM
I want this soooo badly!! I haven’t read the entire article because I figure we need to wait for the final conclusion….but really, what could be bad about this deal other than it doesn’t advance the Administration’s “Green” Machine?
jatfla on December 16, 2011 at 9:28 PM
Time to stop the flow of taxpayer dollars to ALL environmental groups. They collectively receive tens of millions with which to deny us the energy we need.
prodigalson on December 16, 2011 at 9:30 PM
And I doubt you get more shallow.
chumpThreads on December 16, 2011 at 9:31 PM
LMAO…..You’ve got me there Tiger!
Tim_CA on December 16, 2011 at 9:34 PM
*SNORT*
*CHORTLE*
*SNORT*
*SNORT*
*GUFFAW*
*CHORTLE*
*SNORT*
tommy-t on December 16, 2011 at 9:35 PM
The question of the 2012 electoral day however, is will he get away with it?
Flotsam Jetsome on December 16, 2011 at 9:36 PM
What a waste of time. We could have started building that pipeline months ago. What a weak, pathetic man. If he was President in 1981, I’m sure air traffic controllers would now be making $250,000/yr for working 4 days a week.
ZGMF_Freedom on December 16, 2011 at 9:39 PM
with this lsm…probably
cmsinaz on December 16, 2011 at 9:41 PM
Not to worry, Cass Sunstein and the EPA will have about 2000 more regulations all ready by January. Might as well cover the whole route in paper now as for every foot there will be a full 2000 page report on the environmental impact.
They would never build the Hoover Dam again. The environmental reports will still not be done even thought it was started in 1935.
Also, now they can play up that the GOP want to kill kids with the “dirty” foreign oil.
tjexcite on December 16, 2011 at 9:42 PM
Semi On-Topic – Link on drudge:
AUDI chief on Chevy Volt: ‘A car for idiots’…
Link’s down right now but should be funny.
Tim_CA on December 16, 2011 at 9:42 PM
does anyone know if the ban on the ban on selling incadescent bulbs stayed in ?
chasdal on December 16, 2011 at 9:46 PM
nicefly on December 16, 2011 at 9:48 PM
Apparently this story is still ‘evolving’ as both CBS and MSNBC are reporting that congress is demanding a decision to build or not build, and an anonymous White House source is saying almost certainly, the President will not approve the permits.
So what is being leaked to the media, and reported by the media, is only insider talking points. What is in the bill won’t be known until it actually passes congress, and what Obama will do with it only he knows.
The blankety-blank media needs to stop reporting gossip as news.
Skandia Recluse on December 16, 2011 at 9:51 PM
MSNBC :
Skandia Recluse on December 16, 2011 at 9:53 PM
;-)
Tim_CA on December 16, 2011 at 9:55 PM
My apologies if someone already posted this which I am sure they did – I did not read through all the comments.
AP, your scenario that Obama did this all on purpose assumes he is smart. Enough said.
KateNE on December 16, 2011 at 9:57 PM
60 days? :~( More wasting of time.
jatfla on December 16, 2011 at 10:02 PM
I smell an onside kick from the marxist-in-chief and his handlers. I do not trust this “cave” at all based on the
following. The Unions and environmentalists are working with the administration in the most sinister ways.
http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/12/16/leo-gerard-the-most-powerful-man-in-obamas-america/
http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/12/15/wall-street-insider-“leo-gerard”/
From the article- Leo Gerard represents the one figure who was at the beginnings of Barack Obama’s rise to national prominence – an integral part of the group of leftist radicals who invented the socialist-statist platform upon which the current American president now stands. Gerard is the direct link between the political activism of Cloward Piven, the organizational boots-on-the-ground influence of Big Labor, and the radicalized environmentalism behind the fabricated Global Warming crisis. In his positions within both the Obama administration, and two of the largest and most influential labor organiztions in the world, Leo Gerard has direct influence on the domestic and international policies being attempted by the Obama presidency and the progressive Democrats. From Global Warming to Occupy Wall Street, from ACORN and SEIU to Van Jones and Globalization – Leo Gerard is perhaps the most significant present power behind it all. A man who thought his home country of Canada too slow and unwilling to more fully embrace his ideal of a government run by radicalized labor unions – so brought that ideal to the United States and then proceeded to elect a president.
FLconservative on December 16, 2011 at 10:08 PM
No way this is actually going to happen – it means thousands of jobs for Texans & Obama is doing everything he can to kill jobs in Texas.
batterup on December 16, 2011 at 10:08 PM
..or when some stud has O bent over and is having his way with him, he’d best just relax and enjoy it.
The War Planner on December 16, 2011 at 10:09 PM
Not sure he’d want to go through this again. The optics in 60 days would be much worse than this. Unless he down-sizes the pipeline from XL to L.
The War Planner on December 16, 2011 at 10:13 PM
It requires Dear Leader to OWN the decision within the next two months, to pick up and claim ownership of one of the many cans he’s shown himself willing to kick down the pike for the sake of avoiding controversy while he
governsruns for re-election.Humphrey on December 16, 2011 at 10:17 PM
We’ll be able to kick Venezuelan crude to the curb, FINALLY?
Yipee!
Kermit on December 16, 2011 at 10:20 PM
For once, he has to choose sides. His pals in the Old Media have framed the debate beautifully — but to Dear Leader’s disadvantage. Boehner and company have scored an all-too-rare coup by forcing him to eat this little poison pill.
Humphrey on December 16, 2011 at 10:23 PM
By the way, Obama’s intelligence or lack thereof has no bearing on any of his decisions. His grades transcripts etc matter not compared to his ideology. He and his minions have only one goal and that is to take down this country and rebuild it in their own image By now we all know those famous words and that of his wife and that is to “fundamentally change” America. We should take them at their word. Anything since then has only been done or said to this conclusion and unless he is booted out of the White House he will continue until the goal is achieved.
FLconservative on December 16, 2011 at 10:27 PM
Enviros will vote for him anyway.
13 D senators were going to vote against Obama. They know that they wouldn’t even be competitive otherwise.
Schadenfreude on December 16, 2011 at 10:28 PM
War Planner- so true, but GROSS visual. Gag!
FLconservative on December 16, 2011 at 10:33 PM
He just wants to get to his earned vacation in Hawaii…
astonerii on December 16, 2011 at 10:38 PM
I doubt Obama is actually going to make a final decision here. He’ll say no to the pipeline for now (however the bill makes him do that), continue with the environmental review regardless (and say so loudly), and tell everyone that an actual decision will be forthcoming in 2013.
Then, if they want to approve the project in 2013, they will do so. I suspect that through the administrative review process, the executive can easily find a way to effectively reverse the temporary decision made now. And if that is somehow not possible, he’ll just say that they’ll conduct the environmental review exactly as planned, and if it has a favorable result, he’ll ask Congress to legislate authority for building the pipeline in 2013. They won’t say no.
So ultimately, this pipeline provision probably changes nothing.
jd3181 on December 16, 2011 at 10:42 PM
Just curious, AP (and Tina) — what, precisely, does O’Bozo have to fear from “upset” enviroweenies? That they might flip GOP?
Child, please…
Jaibones on December 16, 2011 at 10:51 PM
It baffles me how people can vote to blame one party of the other, for the state of things. As far s Congress goes, I would blame both parties. I may blame a few more democrats, but to blame them exclusively – yeah, no, sorry.
Freeloader on December 16, 2011 at 10:52 PM
Thanks, I haven’t been following that angle today, as I have been seeing what they have been saying about Hitchens. Man alive, they had 12 or so different threads at one point.
Del Dolemonte on December 16, 2011 at 10:54 PM
So I guess the chessmaster is tanking his poll numbers on purpose.
I’m thinking he’s just an incompetent, affirmative action boob.
The Count on December 16, 2011 at 10:55 PM
I wish the Pipeline much success. I wish The One toe-nail fungus and a crushing defeat in 2012, but mostly the latter.
Conservchik on December 16, 2011 at 11:03 PM
“I Ain’t No Chicken, Paaaaaaaaaatttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Del Dolemonte on December 16, 2011 at 11:04 PM
Technically, it isn’t an increase, it is a reinstatement to previous rates deducted from a paycheck. If he were to ADD to the reinstatement, then it would be an increase.
herm2416 on December 16, 2011 at 11:10 PM
So I guess this means that obama gets to leave for his Christmas vacation on time, eh? Think he and michelle will take separate planes?
Spectreman on December 16, 2011 at 11:13 PM
Prediction: The pipeline will A) not be started until 2015 or so and B) it will spring a leak before it’s ever finished.
SouthernGent on December 16, 2011 at 11:15 PM
Typical Friday night news dump, a big one. He jumps out of town, leaving others to cover his bony backside. Typical of EVERY major piece of legislation!
Don’t you suppose Holder will be gone next Friday, or the Friday after?
herm2416 on December 16, 2011 at 11:19 PM
Don’t know what you guys are giddy about. The Dems got the payroll tax, unemplpoyment extension, the “doc fix” which prevents Medicare physicians from experiencing a deep automatic pay cut.
The Reps wanted to defund the ACA, lay off 200k federal employees. Somthing about defunding PP, repealling DADT, and the Keystone pipeline. All they got was a promise from Obama to just come out and tell us that we need more study and the State department also wants to take a closer look. And about it creating between 50k+ jobs is bs.
Isserley on December 17, 2011 at 12:23 AM
Thank you for the laugh. You are great. I wish I could like your comment or something…
Isserley on December 17, 2011 at 12:30 AM
Remember all the wink winks etc during his campaign? He is doing it again. The man is nothing more than a dressed up thug.
pat on December 17, 2011 at 1:01 AM
First time we conservatives have been in total agreement with a Sierra Club president, except…we’ve been saying it daily since January 2009.
Difficultas_Est_Imperium on December 17, 2011 at 1:01 AM
I still say that “I’ll approve it once it gets a final OK from the EPA and that will take 9 months” is a decision. In other words, he can say “yes, but” and just let the federal government do what it does best, which is study the proposal indefinitely.
Fred 2 on December 17, 2011 at 1:21 AM
The Republicans have been suckered again. In two months, Obama will veto the pipeline for environmental reasons. Then they have to be attacked again on the millionaires’ tax in two months.
McConnell is an idiot.
MitchFlorida on December 17, 2011 at 1:33 AM
Pipeline! Baby Pipeline!
tacodawn on December 17, 2011 at 1:53 AM
The thing that worries me is Obama is a good liar. He will now use this as working with Republicans for his campaign and then not let the pipeline be built by EPA. I just don’t see how this is a win for our side? Can someone explain it to me please??
Conservative4ev on December 17, 2011 at 3:26 AM
Ah, the desperation of a fake punt… love it. Too bad POTUS aint nearly as clever as allah wants him to be. It’s not even fourth down yet! This is maybe more like a play-action pass than anything. Victory, you say? No, this is absolutely a lose-lose for conservatives – not that we were ever gonna be allowed on the field again anyway. But, come on, a pipeline? Seriously? So we get the pipe, and lose drilling in New Mexico and West Texas because of a lizard!?! Sounds like a net loss to me…
Outofmehead on December 17, 2011 at 3:35 AM
I remember a couple years ago, Obama and the Dems were ALL IN for “shovel ready” jobs. How times change.
RADIOONE on December 17, 2011 at 6:55 AM
prodigalson
Your comment is perfect. If the Republicans trust this smirking poseur of a President an inch, they need to have their heads examined.
Spots the Dog on December 17, 2011 at 7:29 AM
Liberal elitism in a nutshell – the people are too stupid, we can do anything we want and get away with it.
PatMac on December 17, 2011 at 7:46 AM
stop kidding yourselves there will be no pipeline under the Obama regime
If he blames Republicans and approves it (he may just say no anyway)
he and the enviros will stop it by other means such as a convenient law suit to a friendly judge unopposed or incompetently opposed by the justice dept.
oznerola on December 17, 2011 at 8:06 AM
I haven’t read the comments yet but why is the State Department doing an environmental impact?
Cindy Munford on December 17, 2011 at 8:12 AM
This is what eminent domain is for. The pipeline will be a common carrier of a product necessary to the welfare of this country and the common defense. The emplacement of the pipeline will be a TEMPORARY minor inconvenience to the land owners, but after it is in, they will forget about it. In Northeast Oklahoma (the Cushing area – Cushing is a semi-suburb of Tulsa) we have a pipeline every mile and following every road and railroad track. No bother (or maybe we are used to it.) See, we have pipelines for gathering, distribution, and transportation.
Old Country Boy on December 17, 2011 at 8:49 AM
Some massive pipeline with oil is going to run through the middle of your country and you guys don’t want to take a few months to see what could go wrong if anything? God forbid there is a negative impact on the people around it or it blows up, don’t you think the guy that would eat all those peas deserve some time to get all the facts from different perspective before making the decision?
Does anyone remember the gulf oil spill? These things aren’t perfect or indestructible you know?
residentblue on December 17, 2011 at 8:50 AM
Cindy- go to the links posted from me at 10:08. There are trillions of dollars at stake for the climate scammers like al gore and the Chicago Climate Exchange. Fox news is also reporting on this in the Hot Air headlines. It therefore makes sense that State dept is doing the studies no doubt to quash the entire pipeline.
From my link:
And just this week, news is breaking of the Obama Department of Justice assisting UK law enforecement in seeking out those responsible for the “ClimateGate” leaks that revealed the organizational bias behind the global warming movement that places economies throughout the world at risk via massive government regulation and taxes. Gerard, via his Apollo Alliance connection, has direct ties to the CCX (Chicago Climate Exchange) which in turn, has a primary investment interest from London-based General Investment Management that includes board members Al Gore and former Goldman Sachs CEO and U.S. Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson. When the ClimateGate emails broke, followed by the near-collapse of serious public interest in the issue of Global Warming, these CCX affiliates lost billions in potential annual revenue. Very powerful interests both in the United States and Great Brittain are now working double-time to reinvigorate the Global Warming issue – with a direct assist from President Barack Obama, for the same people who created the Chicago Climate Exchange created Obama – and perhaps they have now decided if one no longer exists, so too should be the same fate of the other:
FLconservative on December 17, 2011 at 8:57 AM
residentblue on December 17, 2011 at 8:50 AM
Old Country Boy on December 17, 2011 at 9:13 AM
Note that I didn’t say that voters will ignore the final actions or consequences, I just said that the inside-the-beltway maneuvering is of little interest. The vast majority of people will vote on the fact fact of the pipeline – or the fact that there is no pipeline — not one the sausage-making that did or did not get it built.
urban elitist on December 17, 2011 at 9:17 AM
Cindy – Old Foggy Bottom is doing an environmental impact because the politicals will use any tool to stop things like this. They will hang their hats on any concept to stop progress. Ain’t that neat – progressives doing their darndest to stop progress. I don’t think that DoS does anything like this very often, but gets involved in the diplomatic side of crossing the border. Why, and by what authority, should DoS care about what goes on in Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Wyoming and South Dakota? None of those states border a foreign country. This all politics dear Hillary, all politics.
Old Country Boy on December 17, 2011 at 9:20 AM
It’s foolish and contra-intellectual to believe the GOP will get credit as it relates to the Pew data. Republicans will get the blame because of poor messaging from leaders who are seen as feckless. Democrats have successfully painted Republicans as obstructionist. In response? Crickets. In fact, I posit the Democrats numbers will probably go up.
Until the GOP starts to grow some stones and understand how to strategically, proactively, consistently and unflinchingly promote their point of view with the public, the issue outcomes are filled with major fail.
Honestly, if you can’t out-message Reid, Pelosi, Obama, et al- you need to find another line of work.
Democrats will simply paint this as “whew, we finally got the GOP to come around and do something. Yeah, we had to give up that icky pipeline stuff, but heh we need to do something to create jobs”. Then Republicans will go on the defensive, looking like deer in the headlights, foaming at the mouth to say “that’s not exactly true” blah, blah, blah (insert pedantic explanation that nobody listens to HERE).
This is mostly a voter perception issue and thus far we have done a crappy job crafting the narrative. Do you really think all the jobs (mostly union) that will be created, will in turn create a bunch of new GOP converts? Please.
Marcus Traianus on December 17, 2011 at 9:25 AM
The thing is, I don’t think Obama and his minions are that smart. They caved because there was no choice. Either they stand their ground and give more ammo to the GOP regarding jobs, energy, and the economy, or they make themselves look like they’re doing something. The greenie-weenie environmentalists will pull the lever for Obama. They may stay home in Nov 2012, but they won’t vote for the GOP, because they are a bunch of servile peons of the Dems worshipping Mother Earth, beating drums like little children.
oddjob on December 17, 2011 at 9:41 AM
Now we’ll get to keep our light bulbs if we like our light bulbs. This means there will be a tax increase on the working middle class in 2 months unless the evil repubs will let the left tax the rich even more. Have you noticed in all the comments how nobody seems to trust our dear leader. Remember in 2 months he’ll really be in campaign mode.
Kissmygrits on December 17, 2011 at 10:10 AM
A two month deal. No budget for 3 years. I’m amazed 3% of the US thinks Congress is vaguely competent.
CorporatePiggy on December 17, 2011 at 10:43 AM
Update 2 : Atheistpundit…
“Ron Paul now at 67% on intrade”
LOL
Thanks Tina!
Eph on December 17, 2011 at 10:52 AM
Exactly. Once again the Republican Leadership has shown themselves to be completely incompetent boobs who enjoy being duped!
In EXCHANGE for actually GIVING the Democrats what they wanted, the stupid Republican Leadership agreed to a PROMISE that Obama will “make a decision” on the Keystone Pipeline “within 2 months”.
Of course, Obama’s decision will be either a “NO!” or “We must review this further”. Then what? The foolish Republicans will scurry back under their desks and hide from view just like they did after they realized that they’d been played for utter fools by Obama and the Democrats when then agreed to raise the debt ceiling in EXCHANGE for a super-duper committee which everybody knew was going to be deadlocked, that is except, of course, Boehner and Cantor who apparently were the only 2 people in the entire country who thought the committee was going to work!
Mahdi on December 17, 2011 at 11:03 AM
By the way, Obama’s intelligence or lack thereof has no bearing on any of his decisions. His grades transcripts etc matter not compared to his ideology. He and his minions have only one goal and that is to take down this country and rebuild it in their own image By now we all know those famous words and that of his wife and that is to “fundamentally change” America. We should take them at their word. Anything since then has only been done or said to this conclusion and unless he is booted out of the White House he will continue until the goal is achieved.
FLconservative on December 16, 2011 at 10:27 PM
+100
Loh2o on December 17, 2011 at 11:09 AM
Imagine how warmly the good gun toting, religion clinginging folks in fly over country will welcome the zealot moonbat environazis who will flock there to stop this project…
Mmmmmm…….
Roy Rogers on December 17, 2011 at 11:18 AM
GOP once again lives up to the nickname of The Stoopid Party. Ron Paul will beon Mt. Rushmore before this thing gets built.
angryed on December 17, 2011 at 11:37 AM
The more plausible theory for a cynic is the one Democrats themselves have openly stated: They’re hoping the two-month time frame for this deal is too short for the president to actually give the green light to the Keystone pipeline. After all, they say, the State Department is still in the midst of environmental reviews projected to take longer than 60 days. In other words, the president might approve the project in general now — but he and the State Department might yet step in to stop actual construction of the pipeline.
This is a much more likely scenario IMHO.
When you think about it take away projection and lying and you have just eliminated/stripped away 75% of what dems usually run on.
To think that they will delay approval until the end of ozeros term is not a stretch at all. And knowing Boehnor the way we do, he’s an easy roll for a Marxist dem who is an ace at voting present.
Boehner is way too timid to put in the stops in what the dems want to insure we get what we want.I predict in the end we get screwed just like all the other deals we have done with the regime.
As Rush says any time you “compromise” with the Commiecrats they win we lose,it never fails.
rodguy911 on December 17, 2011 at 11:44 AM
The democrat’s political calculus is that they get to run up the debt another $30 billion with unemployment, payroll and medicare benefits, and Obama will kill keystone for the environmentalists. And the GOP got?
Tripwhipper on December 17, 2011 at 11:45 AM
OK, so now Obama kills the pipeline in two months, rather than postponing a decision until after the election. The GOP gets a helluva campaign ad, but that’s small confort for the jobs lost and the pipeline going to China.
The Dems are corrupt and anti-American, but the GOP is just plain stupid.
DRayRaven on December 17, 2011 at 11:52 AM
Once again the Republican Leadership falls for perception, rather than reality. Is there anyone, ANYONE in Congress that has a real spine and can tell Obummer where to go? What happened to statesmanship?
We NEED this pipeline and the jobs that go with it. Just like we need to frack,frack, frack and frack some more. No it will not cause earthquakes, poison our drinking water, wreak environmental mayhem!It will cause economic prosperity,abundant energy supplies and most importantly freedom by being self-sufficient!
MJScanlonOH on December 17, 2011 at 12:09 PM
I’m so tired of democrats caring about health and safety.
stingray9813 on December 17, 2011 at 12:32 PM
Of course he will, he’s the Liar in Chief isn’t he? And hell half the country is drinking the Kook Aid anyway. It all will come down to how many conservatives with half a brain will drag themselves off the couch and make their way to the voting booth on election day.
JLPicard on December 17, 2011 at 1:43 PM
With just a minor edit, I can agree with you….
tom on December 17, 2011 at 1:55 PM
Politicians on both sides think we the people are stupid…nothing ever gets done in the future unless its the exact opposite just under the same name, especially when the environmentalists start suing to stop projects like these. Maybe, I’ll live long enough to see this pipeline started; but meanwhile, I won’t be holding my breath.
aposematic on December 17, 2011 at 2:20 PM
. . . and the pandering left wing media touts only the payroll tax cut hoping the mindless public will never learn about the pipeline. Fortunately for the left, the public doesn’t understand the “tax cut” will only further deplete the social security trust fund and Medicare. As for the pipeline, most are ignorant of even its existence. It’s easy to be a dictator when your subjects are all hopeless simpletons.
rplat on December 17, 2011 at 2:23 PM
Sorry if this is a repeat. What exactly does the White House use to heat those 87 rooms during the winter — Carter’s wood fireplace?
In fact, is there a — GASP — natural gas pipeline sneaking into the basement as we speak? Or worse yet, a filthy oil tank, or, God forbid, a stinkin’ coal bin???
Quick — order a windmill farm for the south lawn! Stat!
Then that dastardly, back-stabbing Canada can ship their yucky oil to — China.
fred5678 on December 17, 2011 at 3:59 PM
Can anyone tell me why the Republicans just don,t call Reid and Obama bluff .Past a strong bill in the house then let Reid and the dems in the sen. along with Obama let the tax break end,the gov shut down.Surly they are not afraid of there popularity dropping are they?There already below 10%.It can,t go much lower.
logman1 on December 17, 2011 at 4:32 PM
I agree logman- why cant they make a stand? was it to avoid seeming to follow newt advice? position is weaker in 2 months. no reason to punt -too worried might miss xmas. I predict obama will just agree but will say he wont compromise on safety and will only go ahead if review gives ok- then in 2 more months state dept finds more reason to delay he saids blame them not me.
heard something – pipeline really for mexico- some pipe chaser saids all kinds of building in mexico for this pipeline-
markcon on December 17, 2011 at 8:58 PM
The GOP and Obama have been participating in a race ever since he was elected – the Spineless 500. Up until now he’s mostly been in first place…but it looks like halfway through the race his engine is starting to fail, and his pit crew is low on HopeNChangium.
MelonCollie on December 18, 2011 at 12:14 AM
I’ve done aerospace eng/mfg for over 25 yrs, and there’s an old joke in that field, going back at least to WWII, that any new plane cannot fly until the weight of the accumulated paperwork (i.e., blueprints, reports, studies, permits, etc, etc) equals or exceeds the actual weight of the aircraft, fully loaded on the ramp.
(Oddly enough, the transition across the “electronic frontier” to CAD/CAM engineering, digital modeling and word-processing/spreadsheet software does *not* seem to have altered this rule in the least.)
The Keystone project, and your allusion to the Hoover Dam, appear to indicate this also applies in other engineering fields… but DAY-um!! I dunno any actual figures, but I’m thinking that pipeline is gonna weigh a *lot* more than a fully-loaded 747, ya know? Now that’s a *lot* of paperwork… *sheesh*
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DeepWheat on December 18, 2011 at 2:56 AM
Agreeing to the provision and agreeing to the pipeline are two different things as we shall soon see.
kens on December 19, 2011 at 1:35 PM
Except that the leftist is correct. Elitist as it is, it’s accurate.
The leftist enviros (but I repeat myself) will never vote for a republican and will never pass up a chance to vote for a leftist. As for them being able to do anything they want and get away with it, when was the last time they didn’t? Be specific, I’m dying to know the answer to this.
obama doesn’t have to do a damn thing here. He has no reason to accede to this demand of making a decision in 2 months, or ever. And even if he thought he did there’s nothing to make him keep his word about it, no matter what it is.
Just look at the poll results above. The leftists have already won the PR war. No matter what happens, what they tell us happened is all most people will ever know. They can make it up completely, lie all they want, and they will still win the PR battle because they are fighting it unopposed.
runawayyyy on December 19, 2011 at 1:47 PM
We need the statist and enviro-statists voted out of office.
constitutionalist_Va on December 19, 2011 at 3:55 PM
Would that this was only confined to leftists. runawayyyy nailed it; they pretty much can do whatever the F they want.
MelonCollie on December 20, 2011 at 12:51 AM
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