The obligatory “Obama’s coming for your e-mail addresses” post
posted at 1:15 pm on December 14, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
We’re getting some e-mail on this tempest in an inbox, first reported by Keith Koffler at White House Dossier. A new stunt from Team Obama, which looks rather tongue-in-cheek, offers donors a chance to play tricks on their Republican friends by forwarding their e-mail addresses to the campaign:
Who inspires you to give?
This holiday season, we’re giving you a chance to have a little fun at the expense of a Republican in your life by letting them know they inspired you to make a donation to the Obama campaign.
Simply enter their name and email address below. Then, we’ll send them a message letting them know they inspired you to donate.
Thank you for supporting this campaign, and happy holidays.
Important: By making a donation today, you’ll be automatically entered for a chance to have dinner with Barack and Michelle Obama. By clicking on the “Submit” button below or otherwise participating in the promotion, you agree to be bound by these Official Rules and represent that you satisfy all of the eligibility requirements.
Basically, this says We’re jerks who want to spam unwilling recipients, so why don’t you betray your friends and help us out? Hey, if that’s what Hopeandchange looks like in 2012, well, bring it on. As campaign strategies go, it’s on par with New Coke and those Miller Lite ads that imply that men who choose other brands might be a little light in the loafers.
Koffler explains the purpose of this campaign, as he sees it:
The Obama presidential campaign is launching an effort to collect Republican email addresses by inviting its supporters to submit information about their Republican associates to the Obama 2012 website.
The effort could help the Obama campaign build a database that would enable it to target Republican voters during the general election campaign. But, more perniciously, it could also become part of an Democratic effort to influence Republican primary voters to select a candidate Democrats think Obama could most easily defeat.
You mean like Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos in 2008? Even if that’s the ulterior motive in this case, it’s not likely to work. Limbaugh was on the air constantly to 20 million listeners and didn’t get Hillary Clinton the nomination or damage Obama in the primaries. Besides, Republican voters who get influenced on their primary choices by e-mail spam originating at Team Obama (or anywhere else) probably weren’t going to make good choices in the primary anyway. They have more effective options for impacting the primary race, although so far their efforts in the media and on the Internet have had little effect on the poll standing for Mitt Romney or for Newt Gingrich.
So what is the purpose of this campaign? Besides basic mean-spiritedness, it’s probably just to compile as big a list of e-mail addresses as possible for the general election. They needed independents and disaffected Republican voters in 2008 to win, and it makes sense that they’d want to get a subset of e-mail addresses for targeted messaging on that score. That doesn’t mean it will work, however, as thousands of Nigerian princes and Russian mail-order brides could tell you.
It’s almost certainly not a violation of the CAN-SPAM law, since campaign advertising isn’t “commercial” in the sense of the law’s definition, but being a spammer isn’t going to increase the credibility of Team Obama, either. Basically, as Sean Hackbarth pointed out on Twitter earlier, if you get unwanted e-mail from political campaigns, either unsubscribe or mark it as spam — which it truly is. And choose your friends a little more wisely in the future, too.









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Hey, what’s the problem here? I’m putting all my liberal friends on the list and implying that they are wavering republicans who could be converted with the right approach.
That way, when I get hauled off to camp, I’ll have some friends with me. Who’s gonna believe them when they try to say they are not republicans?
Skandia Recluse on December 14, 2011 at 2:06 PM
Finally able to comment. I feel so fresh and new.
scookam on December 14, 2011 at 2:09 PM
What is he? 12? How juvenile can he get? Oh wait…
Chelle Bean on December 14, 2011 at 2:11 PM
Caesar Barackus Maximus Hubris sure does love him some citizens informing on their fellow citizens for his own personal political self-serving gain and for the gain of The Party, doesn’t he.
Mmmmmm Hmmmmmm
Boy does he evar!
FlatFoot on December 14, 2011 at 2:11 PM
Team Obama has credibility?
GarandFan on December 14, 2011 at 2:14 PM
Aw Jeez!
I’ve already reported myself at least ten times to AttackWatch for having had bad thoughts about The Messiah. What more do these people want?
Now I gotta go report to AttackWatch that I reported all of this to you people at Hot Gas. I hope things are a little looser in the re-education camps after the food riots next year.
Horace on December 14, 2011 at 2:15 PM
This is obnoxious. They’re just looking to taunt people. Why would anyone want people who think like this to be in charge of anything?
NukeRidingCowboy on December 14, 2011 at 2:15 PM
Cancer Rates by age:
20.3 per 100,000 in the 15- to 19-year-old population;
34.6 per 100,000 in the 20- to 24-year-old population;
For 2.5 million people in this age group that is 625 instances of cancer. So we’ve basically spent $1T of tax dollars to provide cancer treatment to 625 people.
We could have done that a hell of a lot cheaper.
angryed on December 14, 2011 at 2:16 PM
Ah yes, “Operation Chaos”…isn’t that actually the brilliant plan that helped get Obama elected?!?
troll on December 14, 2011 at 1:21 PM
Del Dolemonte on December 14, 2011 at 2:17 PM
Ed…
… what is this ‘credibility‘ that you speak of?
Seven Percent Solution on December 14, 2011 at 2:17 PM
Is it too much to hope that either Jake Tapper or Ed Henry confronts Jay Carney about this at tomorrow’s presser?
Maybe we should all email and/or tweet them and
bugask them to do it.Flora Duh on December 14, 2011 at 2:17 PM
You have to wonder if that National Democratic organization of Socialists has to practice at coming across that creepy or does it come naturally to them with the ideology they practice?
Chip on December 14, 2011 at 2:19 PM
I must say was much easier (and faster) to shout at my screen than it is to submit a comment.
Anywho – The audacity of 0 and his team is one for the record books.
dillydally on December 14, 2011 at 2:20 PM
While it may not be a violation per the letter of the law, I can tell you that email providers certainly see it as a violation, and the minute recipients start reporting this spam the sender server will be blocked from delivering to that mail provider. They take no chances and have very little pity for idiotic stunts like this.
My experience in email marketing has seen an account shut down from a higher than 0.1% spam complaint rate for a double-optin list created with my email provider. You can bet Republican recipients will hit the spam button early and often on this one.
What a stupid plan, and low-reward risky proposition. Oh wait, these are the guys who want to pass another Stimulus bill. My bad.
goflyers on December 14, 2011 at 2:21 PM
They don’t seem to realize how creepy they are, so they couldn’t have practiced it. I think it’s natural to them.
NukeRidingCowboy on December 14, 2011 at 2:21 PM
This will never work because one has to think that A) Dems have friends and B) Dems would be friends with a Republican.
neyney on December 14, 2011 at 2:23 PM
Dear Obama, please send best Christmas wishes to:
Operation_Fast_and_Furious@Toys4Tots.org
Lawdawg86 on December 14, 2011 at 2:24 PM
What would happen if I sent to them the e-mails of spammers (from my spam folder). Will then the spammers start spamming the Obama spammers?
3558 on December 14, 2011 at 2:24 PM
..naw, mate. No money, no stiffy and you can’t even get the phone numbers for teenage cheerleaders either. (Personal experience.)
The War Planner on December 14, 2011 at 2:25 PM
I can’t wait till we get some adults in charge again. I can just hear them giggling in ther meetings ” hey guys we are so bad “. They are acting like lil 10 year olds. How did we get in this mess people please wake up. Good thing is it will soon end 2012 hurry up.
rbtsckdj on December 14, 2011 at 2:26 PM
They do seem to be out of touch on how these things looks to outsiders.
They’ve done similar things before and then quickly canceled in response to the backlash – you’d think they would have learned a think or two by now – seeing as they are supposed to be the smartest group of people ever to have lived on god’s green earth.
Anyone want to wager how long it’ll take before they drop this hair- brained scheme?
Chip on December 14, 2011 at 2:28 PM
..not calling BS on this; genuinely curious if there’s a link to that stat.
The War Planner on December 14, 2011 at 2:29 PM
I’m flinging both hands in front of my body and fliping up my middle finger…with the exact same expression as Oblahbah has on his face, on the picture you presented. (Except…I’m grunting… too!)
KOOLAID2 on December 14, 2011 at 2:31 PM
Cut off all interaction with any “friends” who do this, until they come begging for forgiveness with a sincere, unequivocal apology. Then, explain to them the concepts of trust, friendship, and respect.
Christien on December 14, 2011 at 2:32 PM
Possibly, even probably, they will but why wait for someone else to do it? I’m tired of Pubbies being so docile.
E-mail addresses of Democratic congressmen are readily available. One sharply worded message of criticism or link to this HA thread can be blitzed to every one of them.Then let’s see who calls ‘spam’.
timmytee on December 14, 2011 at 2:32 PM
This doesn’t seem to mesh with his 2004 Dem convention speech.
BR549 on December 14, 2011 at 2:34 PM
H e i s p o i n t i n g a t u s a g a i n!
You know what finger to give him back?
KOOLAID2 on December 14, 2011 at 2:36 PM
Hey Bawwy Soetero, here’s my email: flag@whitehouse.gov
You can also reach me at: gofyourself@attackwatch.com
Western_Civ on December 14, 2011 at 2:39 PM
Not surprised one bit at the subterfuge… hope it falls flat…
This man really ticks me off! Toodles…
Scrumpy on December 14, 2011 at 2:39 PM
Not very long ago, I would think that gathering email address’ would just be used to send out spam, sell it on lists.
We are in the Leninst era of obama
When I hear he wants a civilian army to rival the military, he is cozy with dictators, is pushing the arab spring onto America and wants people to report their neighbors if they FEEL that what is said could be considered terrorist leanings. The staffing of these so called FEMA camps that will harbor civilians that can be arrested and held by the military forever according to HR 1032.
These emails will be used to identify the opposition. I AM VERY SUSPICIOUS OF HIS MOTIVES.
Philo Beddoe on December 14, 2011 at 2:41 PM
What is really frightening is that after everything this guy has done he still stands a chance at winning re-election.
cw10036 on December 14, 2011 at 2:51 PM
Seriously getting hard to stomach this mother…
MooCowBang on December 14, 2011 at 2:52 PM
Just inform any Dem friend that you will sign them up for Dick Morriss’s newsletter at their email. It’s an avaalanche of hypertext and it’s difficult to end. I did it to a couple of assistant princials on their NYC Dept of Ed addresses. Took forever to get rid of it.
xkaydet65 on December 14, 2011 at 2:54 PM
Hello
eatbeef on December 14, 2011 at 2:59 PM
I get one of those emails, and the sender is getting signed up at a certain website that I won’t name for the delicate-hearted among us.
tdpwells on December 14, 2011 at 3:14 PM
I’ve known 12-year-olds who were more mature than this.
OperaNerd1986 on December 14, 2011 at 3:15 PM
Democrat values & morals are different than Conservatives by definition – they think nothing of poking you in the eye with a stick because they are fundamentally lacking in self-restraint.
patriotmom1776 on December 14, 2011 at 3:18 PM
Speaking as an email marketer here, this isn’t a violation of CAN-SPAM as you don’t have to be opted-in to the list to receive email. CAN-SPAM is a very low threshold for email marketing best practices. Actually, the industry is very well self-regulated by holding bulk senders to higher standards than what is legislated.
This Obama tactic is curious, though, for many other reasons that are fundamental to basic email marketing. Political campaigns are notorious for horrible email sending practices. For example, sign up for emails from several campaigns and see how often they land in your junk/spam box instead of your inbox. This because most campaigns are only up for a few months, don’t invest in infrastructure and knowledge to follow best practices to ensure inbox deliverability and develop a healthy, strong reputation as a bulk sender. Reputation is key in email marketing and inbox deliverability.
Obama and some other Democrats leverage Blue State Digital for their email campaigns in hopes to establish some reputation as an email sender and improve their email programs. Most other campaigns use very small ESPs (Email Service Providers) like Constant Contact, etc.
The practice of harvesting non-opted-in email addresses is “black hat” lead generation for email marketing and could seriously jeopardize the Obama campaigns ability to effectively deliver their legitimate emails to donors that drive higher engagement, fund raising potential, and other desired actions. Sending to these Republicans’ email addresses will lead to extremely high complaint rates among the major ISPs (Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo!, and AOL) and could cause the balance of Obama’s emails to be marked as spam. Additionally, adding non-opted-in email addresses to your list is a very easy way to get spam traps on your list, and eventually be black listed by several spam reporting services like Spamhaus.
There are ways to mitigate these risks, including how often you send to this file, which IPs you send off of for this file, etc. However, overall this is extremely sketchy and an unwise practice.
bhj on December 14, 2011 at 3:18 PM
Is Portlandon still on HotAir? Miss your comments!!
patriotmom1776 on December 14, 2011 at 3:18 PM
Anybody who turns my name in is going to find himself the newest member of NAMBLA.
stvnscott on December 14, 2011 at 3:19 PM
It’s like Dear Leader is doing a bad impression of SNL’s bad impression of his actual fake persona. Obama is a joke wrapped in a farce inside an oval.
cicerone on December 14, 2011 at 3:30 PM
I’m betting this little trick is going to end up biting BO in the butt…
rightmom2 on December 14, 2011 at 3:36 PM
If I get one of those emails they will get the same response I gave David Axelrod when he spammed me during the health care debate. F&&K Y&U!!!!!!
I never got another one….
tictoc02660 on December 14, 2011 at 3:48 PM
Super, great way to ferret out all my commie friends and write them off!
rgranger on December 14, 2011 at 3:51 PM
The Obama Haunted House Regime reminds me of my grandparents’ outhouse ~
All $hit, stink, and blowflies.
TheClearRiver on December 14, 2011 at 3:52 PM
You just can’t make this stuff up. Seriously, I can imagine someone like the dirty little tyrants in North Korea, Iran, or Venezuela engaging in this type of behavior, but this is the leader of the United States for crying out loud. Mr. President should really think twice about how these little antics he gets himself involved in reflect on the office he holds and the country he is supposed to be leading. He acts like a juvenile delinquent sometimes.
scalleywag on December 14, 2011 at 3:56 PM
I clicked on the site because I was thinking of a liberal friend to sign up, but you actually have to donate money to the campaign. Oh well, too bad, that’s not happening. Plus there’s no way I’d use my credit card at that site. I think I’d think twice even if I were a die hard liberal.
con_in_socal on December 14, 2011 at 3:56 PM
Enemies list anyone?
mel23059 on December 14, 2011 at 3:57 PM
I like those. Whenever I get garbage like that, I forward it with insulting and occasionally obscene comments (depending on how much they’re sending me) to every email address I can findon the website, plus the abuse email address for whoever is hosting the site.
malclave on December 14, 2011 at 3:59 PM
Anyone does this to me……..
Will find themselves to be new members of every nasty organization I can find.
DStreete on December 14, 2011 at 4:04 PM
Why threaten to punish the gullible?
OldEnglish on December 14, 2011 at 4:05 PM
Nhope! Won’t do it.
I won’t send them email addresses of independents either.
EdmundBurke247 on December 14, 2011 at 4:14 PM
Nothing says Christmas like being a total douche to your friends with the full support of the most un-presidential President in U.S. history.
RadClown on December 14, 2011 at 4:15 PM
Illegal or not, it’s offensive.
I remember when Bush 41 was inaugurated, he said something to the effect of — whether you voted for me or against me, I want to be your president, too.
How times have changed.
Chuckles3 on December 14, 2011 at 4:20 PM
When you can’t run on your record you are left with no choice but to employ the tactics of deceit.
nikophil on December 14, 2011 at 4:21 PM
Possible reactions I can see to this:
1) Report Obama as the good being advertised to the FTC
2) Report whoever added me to the list to the FTC
3) Harvest the addresses of all the Nigerian spammers, and donate a penny for each one I can locate.
WingedPanther73 on December 14, 2011 at 4:21 PM
My original response apparently didn’t make it pass the Mods; I got the 70% figure from 2008 MSNBC Exit Polling. However that organization, with help from Google, has scrubbed all of their exit polling data from that search engine. Wonder why?
Both CNN and NYT exit polling show he got 63% of the HS dropout vote. That’s still a record. Algore got 61% in 2000.
Del Dolemonte on December 14, 2011 at 4:25 PM
All your contact lists are belong to US!
Lily on December 14, 2011 at 4:26 PM
F him!
Delsa on December 14, 2011 at 4:30 PM
whatever happened to peoples’ party affiliation being nobody’s business but their own?
conservativescientist on December 14, 2011 at 4:35 PM
Low class. Just what we’ve come to expect from the left.
COgirl on December 14, 2011 at 4:38 PM
It went out the door along with their sexual preferences. Unfortunately.
Major Infidel on December 14, 2011 at 4:51 PM
Love this.
SailorMark on December 14, 2011 at 4:59 PM
Presidential? Leader of the Free World? What’s next, gives the Speaker a wedgie next golf outing?
StevC on December 14, 2011 at 5:10 PM
That’s cool….I reported all my liberal friends to AttackWatch.
HumpBot Salvation on December 14, 2011 at 5:10 PM
Wow really obama? He never ceases to amaze me. Cant wait till he’s gone
Mike254 on December 14, 2011 at 5:31 PM
First Post.
Great feeling especially after being a visitor to Hot Air since the very beginning of the launch of the site.
japh55 on December 14, 2011 at 5:47 PM
Captain Downgrade continues to win friends, influence people.
ZK on December 14, 2011 at 6:20 PM
I think we ought to put all the liberal DEMS on the list….I think that is what happened to Obama’s Watch List….they got bombarded with his own BS!!!!!!
When I saw this earlier today, I started laughing. How stupid and juvenile! This is coming from our POTUS????? What are they thinking, it only serves to emphasize the dysfunction and narcissism of the Obama team.
phoebe1 on December 14, 2011 at 6:28 PM
What unbelievable tripe! Once I would have just ignored this. Now it seems possible that this so-called President is collecting names so he can later collect heads. Tyrants do thing like that you know… It goes so well with their executive privilege.
I’m becoming a conspiracy theorist! But just because you are paranoid doesn’t mean they are not after you..
skeeter on December 14, 2011 at 6:39 PM
A new low….. Who’s the genius that thought of this??
tommyv on December 14, 2011 at 6:39 PM
OBAMA – Fourth Best President, evah!
Mutnodjmet on December 14, 2011 at 6:42 PM
He is the most insufferably ill-behaved 5th grader I’ve ever had the misfortune to have to put up with.
Grammiecracker on December 14, 2011 at 6:43 PM
Another “glad nothing was in my mouth when I read it” post.
: )
listens2glenn on December 14, 2011 at 6:49 PM
Ah, the sheer genius of the Obama reelection campaign! That foul smell in the air is the desperation of an administration running out of lies to spin that can explain away the obvious.
And, anyone who puts me on that email list gets no fruit cake this year!
ClassicalTexan on December 14, 2011 at 6:58 PM
Already flagged myself at Attack Watch. Bring it Barry.
norcalflamingtoad on December 14, 2011 at 7:00 PM
Let the Obumbler have my email..Then I can tell him directly how I feel and send him my
condolences..I mean laughter at his failed second term. A direct line to a one term President would be nice. I wish I had that access to Jimmy “THE JOKE” Carter. Maybe he wouldn’t be the a-hole he is today!Tbone McGraw on December 14, 2011 at 7:18 PM
I wouldn’t have much of a problem with this… if they were required to include in any email sent out who it was that provided your email address to them.
We can then provide the necessary… calibrations at the local end just fine, thank you very much.
VekTor on December 14, 2011 at 7:23 PM
NOTE TO OBAMACRATS:
I ignore all spam which offers me less than $60 Million for my participation! My time is valuable, and I can get at least that much any day of the week from my friends in Nigeria who are much more trustworthy and much less ethically challenged than you are!!
landlines on December 14, 2011 at 7:25 PM
He makes mockery of the highest office in the land.It makes me feel embarrassed for all the morons that voted for him. How people can’t see how divisive he his is way beyond any reasoning in my mind.
lisa fox on December 14, 2011 at 7:30 PM
FUN THOUGHT:
If we were as evil as Democrats, we could conduct a major nationwide SPAM campaign using designed-to-be-extremely-annoying messages which are made to look like email originating from Obama! Subjects could be things like “defend bestiality,” “abortionists are people too,” “Illegals and their pets should vote,” etc.
landlines on December 14, 2011 at 7:37 PM
It worries me that there are people in this Administration that sit around to plot and plan such things. 1984
AnyoneButObama 2012
SansJeux on December 14, 2011 at 7:38 PM
OT, but is anyone else having trouble with this site on their iPhones recently? When I’m scrolling down the comments, it keeps jumping back up to the top, been like this for a while now and it’s very annoying. Something has to have been done to the code of this site and I wish they’d fix it!
Sharke on December 14, 2011 at 8:00 PM
Me too.
petefrt on December 14, 2011 at 8:29 PM
You’re burying the real story here. Whether or not the email plan vioaltes the CAN-SPAM act is beside the point. There is another law implicated here.
By offering a chance to dine with the Obamas in exchange for donations, the Obama campaign is, in effect, running an illegal lottery. There is a reason why every sweepstakes includes the words “No purchase necessary.”
Selkirk on December 14, 2011 at 8:43 PM
*sigh*
Just more SPAM to filter out ….
no B.O. — things stink enough already!
ProfShadow on December 14, 2011 at 8:52 PM
Not actually a big deal.
What I find far more worrying is the movement among news sites to require you to use Facebook in order to make comments.
That way you either don’t comment or there is a way to identify you if you do.
Do you think someone might be harvesting those names for their “naughty or nice” lists?
schmuck281 on December 14, 2011 at 9:01 PM
Ahem. I would love to see any emails from Eric Holder related to Fast & Furious….
TN Mom on December 14, 2011 at 9:03 PM
This will be about as successful as Attach Watch.
diogenes on December 14, 2011 at 9:15 PM
I was enlisted in the 0bama mailstream by some unsavoury characters in another blog. Very simple solution: Check box – Spam – “Thank you, every spam entry helps us”
contrarian on December 14, 2011 at 9:23 PM
My guess is that Plouffe and Axelrod have a virtual army of adolescent 20-somethings working in mom’s basements all over the country dreaming this stuff up, with help from SEIU and Acorn organizers. It’s the same demographic as the Daily Kos trolls and the Occupoopers.
Ventura Capitalist on December 14, 2011 at 9:37 PM
This is another one of Obama’s tricks to divide us — to turn friends and relatives against each other.
Ignore the swine.
TheClearRiver on December 14, 2011 at 9:59 PM
This will be about as successful as Attach Watch.
diogenes on December 14, 2011 at 9:15 PM
Yes what happened to that?
Don’t hear about that much anymore.
KOOLAID2 on December 14, 2011 at 10:19 PM
I don’t doubt what you’ve said at all, but you’re making a very large erroneous assumption here – namely that Obama and the Democrats actually care about any of these niceties. They don’t really have a reason to care, when they’ve got the FCC, the DOJ and numerous other federal agencies at their disposal, all eager and willing to “persuade” these ISPs and spam reporters that flagging their e-mails as spam could be very, very bad for business.
Gator Country on December 14, 2011 at 10:38 PM
bhj, really informative post, and Gator, all that is true, but this thing will really fail in the end because even liberals who actually have Republican friends will think it is totally lame. What you’re going to get is lame liberals sending stuff to other lame liberals, because they’re the only ones who take this seriously. They’ll be spamming themselves.
Which raises the question, is the Obama campaign really serious, or just trying to tweak us? Sure generated a lot of comments on HA, LOL.
platapapin on December 15, 2011 at 12:25 AM
I will be filling a lawsuit against Obama and the person that send me the email. Be warned.
gangrich_1 on December 15, 2011 at 12:33 AM
Submit it to anti-spam databases. That should result in the source of the email being blocklisted.
Meanwhile, SpamAssassin (A free Apache project) works VERY well and will probably catch these campaign spams right off the bat.
{^_-}
herself on December 15, 2011 at 4:27 AM
A childish, juvenile campaign from a childish, juvenile President.
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/creepy-obama-campaign-solicits-donations-to-taunt-republicans-engages-spam
jdawg on December 15, 2011 at 12:17 PM
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