Romney in 2002: “My views are progressive”
posted at 10:30 am on December 13, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
Hey, we get it. Republicans don’t win office in Massachusetts by proclaiming themselves as Ronald Reagan conservatives. When running for governor in 2002, Romney needed to sell himself as a Republican that represented the mainstream of liberal Massachusetts, which is why he told reporters in this clip that he was a “moderate” Republican who was “not a partisan,” and that “my views are progressive.” He told them what he needed in order to win the election.
The question is whether that was his strategy then and he was a secret conservative all along, or whether that’s his strategy today and he’s really a progressive:
Is it possible that Romney had a wide-ranging transformation from “progressive” to conservative? Of course it is; it happens quite a bit. Usually that entails admitting that one was a progressive prior to the conversion, however. With the exception of abortion, Romney has argued that he’s always been a conservative thinker on politics and policy, and pushes back hard on the idea that he’s a flip-flopper. Clips like these, however, are going to make that argument a tough sell.
I believe Romney’s not really one or the other, but instead a political pragmatist who has no problem packaging himself well for the circumstances. That’s not an entirely bad thing, either; a pragmatist can get things accomplished, and a successful pragmatist can bend enough to get elected, as Romney did in Massachusetts. But in a cycle where conservatives want some authenticity even from a flawed candidate — like Newt Gingrich, for instance, or Rick Perry — these kind of statements are not going to instill confidence in Romney’s conservative credentials, and will have the grassroots continue looking for the most effective Not-Romney to support.
Update: Unabashed progressive David Corn at Mother Jones relates what Romney wrote in 2010 about progressivism:
In his 2010 book, No Apology: The Case for American Greatness, Romney huffed, “progressives…rejected the notion of universal truths, objective judgments, and, ironically, progress itself, embracing neutrality among competing belief sets and rejecting the primacy of Western civilization, the great thinkers of the ages, and the principles espoused by the Founding Parents of the nation.” Yet Romney once proudly declared himself a fellow of progressive views. Maybe he should apologize.
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IMPEACH.
GhoulAid on May 15, 2013 at 8:43 AM
BOOOOOM They leaked Romney’s tax records.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/14/Obama-campaign-co-chair-attacked-Romney-conservative-group-in-2012-with-leaked-IRS-scandal-documents
dogsoldier on May 15, 2013 at 8:44 AM
The IRS is completely out of control.
dogsoldier on May 15, 2013 at 8:45 AM
Hmm, it appears the IG also shares the same ‘incompetence” as the IRS.
socalcon on May 15, 2013 at 8:47 AM
and worthy of mentioning again…Billy Graham’s organization now alleging they were a target…
IMPEACH.
hillsoftx on May 15, 2013 at 8:48 AM
dogsoldier on May 15, 2013 at 8:45 AM
You are so right, my friend.
Think about this for a moment. The Internal Revenue Service, an agency of our nation’s Executive Branch, under the Department of the Treasury, acting as political watchdogs for a sitting administration, literally clearing a path to Barack Hussein Obama’s re-election in 2012.
Now…hold on to something. The IRS didn’t go after just secular perceived enemies of Obama. They went after the most famous Christian Evangelist on the face of God’s Green Earth: Rev. Billy Graham.
And, don’t attempt to tell me that Obama did not know.
kingsjester on May 15, 2013 at 8:48 AM
hillsoftx on May 15, 2013 at 8:48 AM
Great miinds.
kingsjester on May 15, 2013 at 8:49 AM
Relax, I’m sure they’ll be fixed by the time they start enforcing Obamacare. /
Happy Nomad on May 15, 2013 at 8:49 AM
“Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time is enemy action” – Auric Goldfinger
myiq2xu on May 15, 2013 at 8:49 AM
enemies, foreign and domestic.
ted c on May 15, 2013 at 8:52 AM
Did IRS leak Romney’s tax info to Harry Reid?
EddieC on May 15, 2013 at 8:52 AM
Criminal. Who are these IRS agents? Surely there’s a digital trail leading to individual agents and offices. Subpoena each and every one involved so the American people can see their faces and find out what they think, what their Facebook posts look like and what books they like to read. I’d also like to hear their most personal and private thoughts, particularly about taking a perp walk down to a federal prison.
Criminal. We shouldn’t even need the media’s help to get these guys and make them pay severely on this one.
RepubChica on May 15, 2013 at 8:53 AM
This gives more significance to those back channel email addresses at EPA. Maybe someone should start looking for those at the IRS and DoJ.
guinneach on May 15, 2013 at 8:53 AM
I just learned that my own church has applied for a 501(c)3 almost three years ago & it still hasn’t been approved.
My pastor’s not afraid to show his conservative politics, albeit not from the pulpit but on his Facebook page.
I’m sure that the previous two sentences have nothing to do with each other.
:/
itsnotaboutme on May 15, 2013 at 8:53 AM
“Selective” you say? Not really.
Because the Tea Party counter-revolutionaries are a clear and present danger to the nation. They are extremely dangerous. We expect them to start perpetrating domestic terrorism any decade now.
While liberal groups are true patriots, who care about the American people and who fully support our brave new United Socialist States of America. Call you local IRS office and report suspected counter-revolutionary activity. Forward, comrades!
farsighted on May 15, 2013 at 8:54 AM
The IRS was just beta testing one part of the Death Panel..
No worries…
Electrongod on May 15, 2013 at 8:54 AM
I blame a “shadowy figure” making videos with his teleprompter.
mjbrooks3 on May 15, 2013 at 8:54 AM
Rahm’s self exile to Chi-town is starting to make more sense.
socalcon on May 15, 2013 at 8:55 AM
Incompetence is if the IRS took forever to grant tax exempt status and asked inappropriate questions with every group. But when the only folks who seemed to have difficult were Tea Party and conservative organizations and that’s juxtaposed with liberal groups reportedly getting the red carpet treatment, this is a systemic abuse of power. And there’s no way a few low level employees just decided to do this on a whim.
Doughboy on May 15, 2013 at 8:55 AM
Before asking about Billy Graham, let’s look into that namesake non-profit that apparently flew through with zero scrutiny on the name Barack H. Obama. And got post-dated legality for years of tax evasion. Unprecedented.
Happy Nomad on May 15, 2013 at 8:55 AM
These are just a bunch of folks from Cincinnati
-libs
cmsinaz on May 15, 2013 at 8:56 AM
IMO, what we are witnessing in this country right now is
what Ted C so aptly describes below.
The bottom line with ALL of this trashing of our Laws is
that people such as Mitt Romney NEED to come out forcefully,
and demand accountability…..I, as a citizen have been
contacting my representative, and Senator (1) to demand they
DO something. We,as citizens, RELY on our representation in DC.
If these people are unwilling to demand answers, then we will
get nothing.
I urge every person on this site (who is sane) to contact
the office of Speaker Boehner. He has the power to trigger
the mechanisms to produce accountability.
From Ted:
ToddPA on May 15, 2013 at 8:56 AM
They’re hoping Congress and the People will be pacified if a few flunkies get in trouble, and take the issue no further. Even if there are ‘firings’, we all know it’ll be little more than a shuffling of staffers among departments, to make them vanish in the crowd. We also know that if anyone does lose a job, the unions will be there to call for arbitration and quietly get those workers reinstated. With back pay, of course. Maybe with interest, too.
What we need to know, as citizens, is just how wide-ranging and deep this scandal goes. The Administration wants to avoid that at all cost, but no one — right or left — should settle for less than the whole kasaaba.
Liam on May 15, 2013 at 8:56 AM
It’s those damn lone wolves again.
They’re everywhere, lone-wolfing around committing lone-wolfism completely independently.
mudskipper on May 15, 2013 at 8:56 AM
I wonder if the House oversight committee can put a Senator under oath and ask that very question.
Happy Nomad on May 15, 2013 at 8:56 AM
Happy Nomad on May 15, 2013 at 8:55 AM
Yep. Things are getting deeper and deeper.
kingsjester on May 15, 2013 at 8:57 AM
In a speech to Latinos Obama said the following:
Guess we now know who are Obama’s enemies and who are his friends. So Obama is president of liberals and illegals only.
poxoma on May 15, 2013 at 8:57 AM
Except for those in Washington, too, doing the same thing.
Liam on May 15, 2013 at 8:57 AM
At this point, I will settle for nothing less than the complete dismantling of the IRS. I’m calling my Congresswoman today and demanding that such a bill be introduced by the end of the week.
Chris of Rights on May 15, 2013 at 8:57 AM
Pope.
Catholic.
?
socalcon on May 15, 2013 at 8:58 AM
Well…the White House has succeeded…
Not one mention of Benghazi in the 24 news cycle today.
By next week…not one mention of IRS…
Fast and Furious…ancient history…
Michelle in ’16!!!
Unless America gets off her backside and stops this insanity cowering inside the White House.
Can we start using the “I” word yet?
This one is not just all about sex, you know.
coldwarrior on May 15, 2013 at 8:58 AM
Once again, the MSM is using the meme that President Obama is just a naive cherub surrounded by accidental incompetence. The IRS accidentally selected the President’s opponents for audits, heavy handed scrutiny, and outright intimidation.
Sorry. . .
Rode Werk on May 15, 2013 at 8:59 AM
Heh.
hillsoftx on May 15, 2013 at 9:01 AM
Rand Paul wants criminal charges against officials involved in IRS targeting
petefrt on May 15, 2013 at 9:01 AM
Just following orders.
Kenosha Kid on May 15, 2013 at 9:01 AM
If the IG needs to ‘see’ demonstrated incompetence, look to the FBI handling of the run up to the Boston bombing.
socalcon on May 15, 2013 at 9:01 AM
Oo, oo, or the RNC!
socalcon on May 15, 2013 at 9:03 AM
Unconfirmed report.
President Obama’s half brother got an application for a (c) 4 approved in two months and it was retroactive into the year before for something like eight months.
All I have is no account relatives who run around trying to save the unborn and cleaning carpets or doing auto body work.
IlikedAUH2O on May 15, 2013 at 9:04 AM
Yepper Liam
:)
cmsinaz on May 15, 2013 at 9:04 AM
The IG’s IRS report implies that rogue special agents in a special unit in the national determinations department headquartered in Cincinnati acted independently…and badly/illegally and apparently with no actual knowledge of Federal Tax laws or IRS procedures (Yet these same agents repeatedly flaunted corrections of procedures)…with no managerial supervision for over two years…in a federal organization famous for being anally retentive in pursuit of compliance to federal tax law?
Plausible Deniability elevated to Pythonesque Absurdity?
Just how stupid do these people think we are?
workingclass artist on May 15, 2013 at 9:07 AM
Dirty Flicking politics!
I’m fixin’ to go buy some powerball tickets. If I win, that’ll be MY money, no politicians.
Just have to deal with the IRS, I guess with 25% off the top…no politics..
Wait…
IlikedAUH2O on May 15, 2013 at 9:08 AM
The Buffalo News front page above the fold banner headline:
“Angelina’ choice – Her decision to get a double masectomy”
mjbrooks3 on May 15, 2013 at 9:08 AM
I saw that yesterday and I said to the Mrs. “Zero stepped on a landmine with that…” The Reverend is not someone to step upon.
There is little doubt that if the IRS gave Romney’s records out that Reid and Zero would not have them.
dogsoldier on May 15, 2013 at 9:09 AM
Is it too early to conclude that the democratics stole the election of 2012 via IRS leaks?
They used to do it the old-fashioned way, using dead and illegal alien voters. Now it’s both.
slickwillie2001 on May 15, 2013 at 9:10 AM
I refuse to be pessimistic about this. I think the IRS issue has legs. Not only the hearings and criminal charges but all those victims who have demonstrably had their civil rights infringed by an organization ulitmately run by the rat-eared passerby.
Happy Nomad on May 15, 2013 at 9:10 AM
and to blame the low levels is ridiculous…when was the last time any org of any type had low levels begging for more work? IMPEACH.
hillsoftx on May 15, 2013 at 9:10 AM
Only a lib could come up with something this lame, and only another lib would grant such a farce tax-exempt status.
In fact I think I will start myself a leftist organization. I’ll call it “Ribs for Progress”, a Minnesota non-profit that uses the grill on my deck to create BBQ ribs for supporting liberal causes. I’ll eat all the meat I want and write everything off.
Bishop on May 15, 2013 at 9:10 AM
Probably.
I’m sure Baucus will get to the bottom of it…
workingclass artist on May 15, 2013 at 9:11 AM
In truth, they are.
dogsoldier on May 15, 2013 at 9:11 AM
dogsoldier on May 15, 2013 at 9:09 AM
I believe that this Perfect Storm is, like the beginning of the movie “Twister”. Things are just getting started.
kingsjester on May 15, 2013 at 9:11 AM
It certainly helped, and I hope someone gets…metaphorically of course…strung up for this.
Bishop on May 15, 2013 at 9:12 AM
Me too.
Chris of Rights on May 15, 2013 at 9:13 AM
Nope to soon at all, IMHO.
They stole the election using every trick they could and by suppressing news about Benghazi. Now zero’s enablers are finding out how nice their little caligula really is…
dogsoldier on May 15, 2013 at 9:15 AM
That’s a no-brainer, and I’d include the White House and State.
Take ALL the email addresses that run through government servers with federal gov addresses, and run them through a filter of real people from HR. Those that don’t match up with real people should prove to be Gold mines of information.
slickwillie2001 on May 15, 2013 at 9:15 AM
Dana Milbank. Dana Milbank! reaffirms the Limbaugh theorem. President Passerby…sounds perfect with the Drive By Media.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-obama-the-uninterested-president/2013/05/14/da1c982a-bcd7-11e2-9b09-1638acc3942e_story.html?hpid=z5
Brat on May 15, 2013 at 9:15 AM
Well, why not? If a female ‘performance artist’ can get a Federal grant to put on stage shows where she gets naked and pours Bosco syrup on herself while quoting lesbian poetry, you should have no problem, either. But I recommend you list the Missus as the head of your organization. It’ll speed things along.
Liam on May 15, 2013 at 9:15 AM
I agree. McConnell said that too.
dogsoldier on May 15, 2013 at 9:16 AM
This thing will blow wide open if we find out they leaked Romney’s tax records to the Obama campaign. There’s no doubt in my mind they did…just a matter of whether or not there is evidence of it.
changer1701 on May 15, 2013 at 9:16 AM
Verbulance was probably up all night trying to think of some kind of rationalization for how this all happened. Good luck, Verbie!!!
Deano1952 on May 15, 2013 at 9:16 AM
Results for #teaparty
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23teaparty
canopfor on May 15, 2013 at 9:17 AM
Don’t be dragging NonPee into this.
Bishop on May 15, 2013 at 9:17 AM
I don’t think this allowed them to win in 2012, but it certainly gave them an edge and was obviously highly illegal. The thing is though, if they were willing to break the law in this capacity(not to mention cover up Benghazi and tap the phones of AP reporters), what didn’t they do in order to secure Obama’s reelection?
Doughboy on May 15, 2013 at 9:18 AM
For those wanting the link regarding Obama’s half brother getting the fast lane for his charity being approved, not to mention back-dated by the IRS head so he could avoid tax-evasion charges…goodness.
hillsoftx on May 15, 2013 at 9:19 AM
How long can Hot Air go without mentioning the unprecedented decline in the deficit…..
libfreeordie on May 15, 2013 at 9:19 AM
Nonsense.
You either have a corrupt IRS being used by political officials and their minions for nefarious, illegal purposes or a largely unsupervised government agency being whimsically (and again, illegally) used by groups of liberal employees to advance their political causes.
Either way, this is an illegal Democrat operation advanced by members of their party. They have used a powerful government agency to stifle and punish honest debate with which they do not agree with politically. That is not only contrary to the principles of liberty, but of all this country stands for.
Marcus Traianus on May 15, 2013 at 9:20 AM
House and Senate need to stop any pending legislation and get to the bottom of these scandals.
This corruption involves too many agencies under the executive.
workingclass artist on May 15, 2013 at 9:20 AM
YOU are a wise man. I will make Curvy and Firm the head of my 510 and then have her apply for federal grants.
I’ve been wanting to replace the shag carpet in my bunker, and the blacklight posters are getting a bit dated, now your tax money is going to replace all of that. This is going to be great.
Bishop on May 15, 2013 at 9:21 AM
HA interested in facts without unprecedented optimism.
hillsoftx on May 15, 2013 at 9:21 AM
How long can Hot Air go without mentioning the unprecedented decline in the deficit…..
libfreeordie on May 15, 2013 at 9:19 AM
As long as your messiah’s corruption remains more important.
And, that is going to be a while.
kingsjester on May 15, 2013 at 9:21 AM
If that happens, Obama is done. That’ll delegitimize his reelection and render him impotent. Politically-speaking that is. Ask Larry Sinclair about the other kind.
Doughboy on May 15, 2013 at 9:22 AM
The concept of “Hostile Environment” comes to mind.
And this ALWAYS goes to the top.
Obama’s ridiculing of conservative groups and causes ( think Alinsky here ) led people of his political persuasion to believe that it was OK to put pressure on those who felt differently than they.
Simply need to look at the time frame of when IRS started it’s practice and compare to what Obama was saying at the time, or shortly before.
If what he was saying at the time gave comfort to those IRS folks to do what they did, he’d be complicit in creating an environment hostile to those opposed to him.
Jabberwock on May 15, 2013 at 9:22 AM
libfreeordie on May 15, 2013 at 9:19 AM
Deflect: Alinsky rule number 7.
Deano1952 on May 15, 2013 at 9:22 AM
Bishop on May 15, 2013 at 9:17 AM
LOL!
kingsjester on May 15, 2013 at 9:23 AM
Eh, you’re a lot more fun when you fly in here frothing about a black church being burned down 139 years ago.
Bishop on May 15, 2013 at 9:23 AM
A child, on her own, decides to have a non-profit organization? Even though we are supposed to be hands off and let her have her privacy?
An incompetent organization (that’s been in existence for about 100 years) would be ham-handed with everyone, not just one side of the debate.
rbj on May 15, 2013 at 9:23 AM
How long will you go before finding yourself a good rape counselor? It’s not your fault!
slickwillie2001 on May 15, 2013 at 9:23 AM
Discussion should move to the 2012 election was effected by the Obama administration use of the IRS and other agencies to stifle the democratic process.
Would Obama have lost the election if he had not used the IRS to do the dirty tricks?
albill on May 15, 2013 at 9:23 AM
Yep!
These scandals represent a potential Constitutional Crisis.
The Executive v Congress and the Rule of Law on steroids.
workingclass artist on May 15, 2013 at 9:24 AM
OT- Chris Plante on media outrage about these scandals:
I fear they have awakened a sleeping weasel. ;0
Happy Nomad on May 15, 2013 at 9:25 AM
workingclass artist on May 15, 2013 at 9:24 AM
That is where the Flashpoint of the IRS Scandal lies. A sitting President used the agencies at his disposal to stifle, and malign his opposition in order to clear a path for his re-election.
It boggles the mind.
kingsjester on May 15, 2013 at 9:26 AM
You’ve become completely unhinged.
Happy Nomad on May 15, 2013 at 9:26 AM
If it happens and there’s evidence, then forever it will be questioned if Obama stole the election. Maybe it wasn’t a factor, in truth, but the question will remain. Much the same way libs still claim Bush ‘stole’ the 2000 election.
Liam on May 15, 2013 at 9:26 AM
Attempting to change the subject won’t bail your ass out anymore, liberal punk.
Yoop on May 15, 2013 at 9:27 AM
And, right on que, the horses azz appears.
The only true words you typed in your post was this:
libfreeordie on May 15, 2013 at 9:19 AM
ToddPA on May 15, 2013 at 9:27 AM
Indeed!
workingclass artist on May 15, 2013 at 9:27 AM
This is the danger of having a community organizer as President. He may not have directly ordered the targeting of TEA groups. He created an environment through his rhetoric and leadership appointments where it is acceptable to think of political opponents as an enemy to be destroyed at all costs including the use of government power to suppress and coerce citizens. How close were/ are we to “patriot affiliated persons” being imprisoned by an out of control agency who thinks they are doing what the President wants?
tdarrington on May 15, 2013 at 9:28 AM
A sitting President used the agencies at his disposal to stifle, and malign his opposition in order to clear a path for his re-election.
It boggles the mind.
kingsjester on May 15, 2013 at 9:26 AM
Seems like we’ve heard something like that before. About 40 years ago. Maybe it is time to come up with a good name for these scandals. Obamagate is retro but so trite. I’m sure we could do better.
Happy Nomad on May 15, 2013 at 9:29 AM
Ok, libtardordie. Let’s talk about the decline. Here’s an excerpt from an AP article:
One of the reasons for the burst of additional income tax revenues, the budget office says, is that upper-income taxpayers claimed more income late last year in order to avoid paying the higher capital gains tax rates enacted in January.
So basically this was a one-time boost resulting from the impending tax hikes. Unless the economy starts to improve(which ain’t happening), we’ll continue to run massive deficits every year.
Doughboy on May 15, 2013 at 9:32 AM
But Al Gore didn’t call for armed insurrection so it’s all good./
Seriously, the word impeachment is being thrown around and I doubt we will ever get there. But, if it looks like a possibility what do you suppose the chances are that we will see full-scale race riots in American cities? Parasites who have benefited greatly these past few years and see the rat-eared passerby as one of their own being taken down by “the man” for being an uppity black.
Happy Nomad on May 15, 2013 at 9:33 AM
You mean the CBO thinks we will be a couple billion less insanely over budget as we were last year at this time, and the year before, and…
Still a trillion point two over budget but BIG VICTORY FOR OBAMA ’cause we thought it would be a Trillion point three!!1!
tdarrington on May 15, 2013 at 9:33 AM
I have no doubt. It appeared Romney’s biggest problem was that of being seen (by LIV’s) as ‘out-of-touch’, ‘not like us’, too rich, too good-looking, etc, etc. The information about his perfectly-legal investments with some offshore content hurt him further.
All the REB’s lies about Benghazi set up the Crowley Incident which further damaged the Governor.
No doubt, -the Benghazi coverup, and IRS shenanigans allowed the REB to steal the election.
slickwillie2001 on May 15, 2013 at 9:34 AM
Happy Nomad on May 15, 2013 at 9:29 AM
Operation IRS Intimidation
Operation Opposition Elimination
Stiflegate
Operation Bitter Clinger Blitzkrieg
kingsjester on May 15, 2013 at 9:34 AM
America has been fundamentally transformed. Afraid to speak out against the government out of fear of being harassed by the government. Willing to give up rights without question due to “national emergency.”
tdarrington on May 15, 2013 at 9:37 AM
Just like in teaching singing, you are going to frustrate yourself, and annoy the pig.
Yoop on May 15, 2013 at 9:37 AM
Fascist is as Fascist does…
Congress needs to focus on these scandals…or they abdicate their constitutional duty of checking the powers of the executive.
We are in a Constitutional Crisis of the highest order.
workingclass artist on May 15, 2013 at 9:38 AM
How long can Hot Air go without mentioning the unprecedented decline in the deficit…..
libfreeordie on May 15, 2013 at 9:19 AM
Unprecedented? It’s still a lot more than any Bush deficit isn’t it?
Wagthatdog on May 15, 2013 at 9:39 AM
I want a name that is able to rally the masses the way Chick-Fil-A appreciation day spiraled into a massive protest of the left. Remember that? People waiting in line for hours and massive traffic jams- all for a chicken sandwich.
We need something that inspires in massive (peaceful) protests in front of every IRS office in the nation. We need something that results in IRS employees telling people they work for Congress to avoid the shame of what they really do for a living. We need something that puts the brakes on the IRS having anything to do with Obamacare.
Happy Nomad on May 15, 2013 at 9:40 AM
Maybe Barry’s presidential library will be on Rikers Island in collaboration with Columbia University. :-D
Library! LOL! His base can’t even read!
Punchenko on May 15, 2013 at 9:40 AM
That might happen, but I think it depends on how ironclad is the case for impeachment. If too hasty, the House could not only cause civil unrest, but lose the bill in the Senate. Plus, the Left can say the move is ‘revenge because they couldn’t get Clinton’. As well as the usual canned charges of racism, etc.
The case has to be ironclad as possible before a motion to impeach. It has to be so solid that Dems will need, for the good of their Party, to ditch Obama before he totally ruins the brand. The case has to be so airtight that even McCain won’t be able to vote against it.
Liam on May 15, 2013 at 9:42 AM
Of course.
I’ll bring some charitable bourbon if you can donate some of those ribs to me.
Patrick S on May 15, 2013 at 9:46 AM
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