Great news: Congress trusted less than lobbyists and used-car salespeople
posted at 8:47 am on December 12, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
Once again, a major polling organization tests the rating of Congress, and once again, political pundits like myself get a chance at a punchline or two. This time it’s Gallup, whose latest survey shows that public trust in members of Congress has dropped to the bottom of their charts — slightly below that of lobbyists and car salespeople:
Sixty-four percent of Americans rate the honesty and ethical standards of members of Congress as “low” or “very low,” tying the record “low”/”very low” rating Gallup has measured for any profession historically. Gallup has asked Americans to rate the honesty and ethics of numerous professions since 1976, including annually since 1990. Lobbyists also received a 64% low honesty and ethics rating in 2008.
This year’s update, from a Nov. 28-Dec. 1 Gallup poll, finds Americans rating the honesty and ethical standards of 3 medical professions — nurses, pharmacists, and doctors — the highest of the 21 professions tested. At the other end of the spectrum, Americans give the least positive honesty and ethics ratings to members of Congress, lobbyists, car salespeople, and telemarketers. …
In general, Congress members’ honesty and ethics ratings have never been that positive, averaging 15% very high or high and peaking at 25% in 2001. What has changed in recent years is the growing proportion of Americans rating their honesty and ethics as very low or low, rising from 22% in 2001 to 64% today.
Yes, this is all very amusing — and mainly meaningless. When Americans rate Congress by approval rating or levels of trust, the results generate headlines because one can guarantee that the number will be low. Thanks to an increasingly polarized electorate, an institution that includes a healthy percentage of political opponents will always get low ratings, especially with polarization running so high. When people hear “Congress,” they visualize their political betes noires, not their own Representative. It conjures up images of Nancy Pelosi for Republicans and John Boehner for Democrats (or Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell, respectively).
Why do I know this is meaningless? Consider the re-election pattern for Congressional incumbents, tracked by Open Secrets. “Few things in life are more predictable than the chances of an incumbent member of the U.S. House of Representatives winning reelection,” they proclaim, and they’re right. The Tea Party midterm elections were the toughest on incumbents in 40 years, but can you guess what the incumbent re-election rate was in 2010? 85%. It was the first time in ten cycles that it dropped below 90%.
In the Senate it’s a little more volatile, but only by degree. The last cycle’s incumbent return rate was rather unremarkable at 84%, within the typical range we’ve seen in the last 30 years. The realigning election of 2006 produced a 79% return rate, same as 2000 and well above the 55% seen in 1980, the last time we had a significant level of change among incumbents.
People feel free to insult Congress, but for the most part they’re satisfied with their own Representatives and Senators, or at least are not dissatisfied enough to throw them out. It’s easier to just tell people how dishonest and untrustworthy Congress as a whole is than to do something about it.









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I trust our government as far as I can throw it.
And a gridlocked Congress is great for the Constitution. Considering that nearly every law they pass violates it in some respect, a Congress that makes no laws at all is probably more good than bad.
wildcat72 on December 12, 2011 at 8:49 AM
Honestly, I think Mafiosos have higher ethical standards than most members of Congress. Well, if not higher, pretty close to equivalent. The only reason Congress doesn’t break legs is because it doesn’t have to.
DRayRaven on December 12, 2011 at 8:51 AM
It IS meaningless and they know it, hence the behavior doesn’t change.
Tim Zank on December 12, 2011 at 8:51 AM
It not meaningless enough to keep Obama from saying “It’s not me that is the problem, it’s Congress”.
SaysWho on December 12, 2011 at 8:53 AM
Spot on sayswho
With the lsm help
cmsinaz on December 12, 2011 at 8:59 AM
I sell cars!
Now, that does not make me feel good!
Makes me want to walk out into traffic!
Thanks a pantfull!
KOOLAID2 on December 12, 2011 at 9:01 AM
can’t argue with Ed on this. High reelection rate flies in the face of the low fav ratings. It is the “Our guy/gal is great — others not so great” syndrome.
Boodad on December 12, 2011 at 9:01 AM
Herb Tarlek not available for comment.
Laura in Maryland on December 12, 2011 at 9:02 AM
I chalk it up to an uninformed electorate. They are too lazy to read, and prefer to vote the familiar name…kind of like cheering for the home team. No matter how lousy they are, you’ve got to support ‘em.
Go Orioles! *hangs head in shame*
Laura in Maryland on December 12, 2011 at 9:05 AM
When does a credible polling service actually rate the House and the Senate separately? Those numbers would be interesting to see imo. I would venture a guess that Harry’s Senate ranks even worse than Boehner’s House.
Rovin on December 12, 2011 at 9:10 AM
I’ve been voting against Frank Palone for sixteen years now. Sigh.
Naturally Curly on December 12, 2011 at 9:10 AM
Exactly, everyone else’s congressman stinks, but mine is ok. Would like to see that poll.
ncsully on December 12, 2011 at 9:10 AM
I’m just glad insurance agents didn’t make the list! That’s usually a conversation killer when people ask me what I do.
GeorgiaBuckeye on December 12, 2011 at 9:11 AM
If we shaved, oh I don’t know, maybe a trillion and a half off of the annual budget, there’d be a lot less carcass for hyenas, vultures and lobbyists to fight over, and probably fewer of them, too.
trubble on December 12, 2011 at 9:13 AM
Not surprising at all.
OT: If you were screwed buying a car, 9 times out of 10 you were screwed by the F&I man, not the salesman. Never allow a dealership to arrange your financing. Arrange it with a local bank, credit union, or your mama yourself.
Better still, only buy as much car as you can afford to pay cash for. It’s amazing how much they will come off the price when they see that you are holding an envelope full of cash and ready to make a deal. Their bottom line best offer usually improves.
flyfisher on December 12, 2011 at 9:13 AM
Well, duh! Wonder fricking why?
Long haired country boy on December 12, 2011 at 9:20 AM
I don’t know if most people think their Congressen are good people. Of the very few candidates available, people in each district may pick the one who they know will give them the most free stuff, or the one they hope might cut taxes. But that doesn’t mean we like them or trust them.
The problem is that the people who RUN for office are nearly all scumbags. Anybody who is willing and able to run the media gauntlet – even at the local level – is a borderline sociopath at best. And after a lifetime lived in that bubble, they tend to get worse.
As Frank Herbert said: “All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible.”
logis on December 12, 2011 at 9:20 AM
It was only in the past few recent elections that John Murtha of PA-12 even had an opponent. I’m sure the reason why his constituents kept sending him back to Congress was the same reason as all the other entrenched reps retain their offices: he was a pork machine for greater Johnstown, including the infamous seldom-used regional airport. For the rest of his district, not so much. His death did what none of the PA voters were ever able to do: get him out of office, finally. They shouldn’t have had to wait that long.
PatriotGal2257 on December 12, 2011 at 9:22 AM
A poll a year or so ago found that the majority thought that picking names randomly out of the phone book would result in better congress critters. Can’t say I dis-believe that. On the ‘my congress critter is OK, yours stinks’ segment, I like my Congressman because I do follow their votes in Congress and approve of how they are voting, not so much on the Senate side, 1 reasonably good, 1 not so good, but in all cases this is decided on their published voting record and stance – not the media’s slanted summary. This contrasts to my years experiment of living in an east coast state where the governor is an Obama lamprey, one Senator is a Schumer clone and proud of it (definitely showing their ignorance), and my Congressman needs to be separated surgically from Nancy Pelosi’s derriere.
I kind of like Perry’s thought of a part time Congress, but add that they could be selected from the county/city jury pool, serve six months at a juror’s pay, then out. Sort of like the farmer/politician envisioned by the founding fathers.
Grumpy Curmudgeon on December 12, 2011 at 9:25 AM
How about congressional redistricting without incumbent protection, or other protected minorities getting the preferrential treatment? If congressional districts were truly competitve, we would have, I think, a surprisingly robust House.
The Senate is another story. Since the redistricting games also determine the State Legislatures, a robust State Legislature could give a strong argument to repeal of the 17th Amendment. The Senate is supposed to represent the States anyway; the House is for the people.
ss396 on December 12, 2011 at 9:25 AM
Amen … and I Really had high hopes for Anna Little too. It won’t get any better with redistricting either.
Lost in Jersey on December 12, 2011 at 9:28 AM
I have to say that I think you’re getting a “bum rap”! The last time I bought a car, I researched it online, pulled a CarFax Report, and went to see it. The salesperson only had to get the keys for the test drive. Nothing to distrust there! Cheer up! We don’t think all of you are dishonest!
Boats48 on December 12, 2011 at 9:28 AM
This is why nothing has changed. The newbies, 15%, can’t change the trajectory of a mainly progressive congress. Getting mad at the newbies for not getting the job done is the height of folly. The 85% just thumb their noses at us.
chemman on December 12, 2011 at 9:31 AM
“Police in Washington D.C. are now using cameras to catch drivers who go through red lights. Many congressmen this week opposed the use of the red light cameras incorrectly assuming they were being used for surveillance at local brothels.” —Dennis Miller
Flora Duh on December 12, 2011 at 9:32 AM
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I don’t sell cars and do not think unkindly of those who do. What I find most interesting is the activities of the salesmen in the affairs of the community, outside the dealership. They are quite responsive to assisting others with difficulties not related to the car deals. Feel better?
News2Use on December 12, 2011 at 9:33 AM
My guy is Mica and you have to watch him every minute because he will become enamoured when a shiny train is dangled in front of him. And he also whines about having live townhalls because his district is so spread out. Gerrymandering isn’t my fault and somebody might figure out that they can have more than one townhall. But you’re right Mr. Morrissey, at least he is controllable so we keep him.
Cindy Munford on December 12, 2011 at 9:41 AM
Gerrymandering is the reason so many incumbents win re-election. I’ve been trying to boot out my rep for years but when the district you live in is overwhelmingly D or R it is almost impossible to get rid of them. I’m not happy with Congress, Reid is sitting on bills that never make it to the floor for debate or vote and Boehner and McConnell are weak leaders. They try to play nice against opponents who resort to street fighting tactics. GOP leadership must be replaced, their failure to hold Reid accountable cannot be tolerated.
beacon on December 12, 2011 at 10:02 AM
I’m proud to have that mindless race baiting puppet andre carson represent me.
I think every dime of the multi million dollar perks and pensions he’ll get for his wonderful work will be worth it.
at least him grandma was brain dead the last couple of terms she served. probably the best representive we’ve ever had during that stretch.
acyl72 on December 12, 2011 at 10:07 AM
Dittos, both of you.
listens2glenn on December 12, 2011 at 10:13 AM
The Republican Senator in my state of NC is Richard Burr. I worked to help get this man elected. But, when he voted for the Super Committee (which I believe is unconstitutional) and for the National Defense Authorization Act (S. 1867) which gives the military the power to throw us legal American citizens in prison, indefinitely, without a trial (see section 1013 of the bill – link provided below), he lost any future vote he might have gotten from me.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.1867:
I’m finished campaigning for him, I’m finished supporting him in any way, shape, or form. I’m especially finished feeding this glittering jewel of a RINO any more of my votes.
So, add me to that short list of those who are absolutely angry enough to throw out their own Congressional representatives. My other Senator is Democrat Kay Hagan, but I expect her to vote like a Democrat. I didn’t expect it from Senator Burr, and I feel thoroughly betrayed.
I no longer trust anyone in Congress.
TheClearRiver on December 12, 2011 at 10:15 AM
Ain’t it the truth.
Perfect ending, Ed.
listens2glenn on December 12, 2011 at 10:20 AM
When KOOLAID2 sells us a car, we can count on getting the whole car.
All we can count on getting from Congress is the shaft.
TheClearRiver on December 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM
Well, it’s not that bad. They still rank higher than attorneys. So there’s that.
platypus on December 12, 2011 at 10:34 AM
Advertising research confirms this. In the 1970s, for example, when people were enraged at the Postal Service’s ineptitude and dysfunction, they gave their individual letter carrier high ratings.
BTW, as an advertising practitioner, I’d like to thank the current Congress, since people now regard us as almost twice as honest and ethical (52% vs. 27%).
bgoldman on December 12, 2011 at 10:36 AM
Heck, I barely trust my seven-member HOA board to make intelligent decisions on my and my neighbors’ behalf.
I served on my HOA board for one three-year term several years ago, and I witnessed firsthand just how easily seemingly well-adjusted adults turn into slavering tyrants with no apparent semblance of fiscal responsibility or accountability. It doesn’t take an absence of character–only a weak one–in just four out of seven board members to, say, have 128 other dues-paying homeowners subsidize their whims, make arbitrary rules predicated on personal feuds, dictate policy for no other reason than “just-because-I-said-so”–all with little, if any, impugnity.
Again, that’s just with my HOA board.
So, when only 535 people make decisions on behalf of 300,000,000+, you can bet my trust in the 535 is inherently lacking. That’s just far too much of a concentration of power into the hands of Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and other comparably characterless, idiotic, self-serving U.S. legislators.
Not that it would necessarily be a cure-all, but I would like to see the Apportionment Act of 1911 repealed; in my opinion, the 435-seat cap on the House needs to be removed and the power diluted, even if only to a relatively small degree.
Dime IV on December 12, 2011 at 10:53 AM
If I had to live in California, I’d probably detest my congresscritter, and certainly I’d detest the two Senators (Boxer and Feinstein, I believe). Therefore, I’d respond negatively. But since I live in Florida, I like one of my Senators (Marco Rubio) and my congresscritter, Bill Posey, both of whom are good conservatives. The other Senator, Bill Nelson, is a Democrat, though not of the Kennedy/Dodd/Kerry stripe. Therefore, I’d probably respond to a pollster that I liked my congressman. My response would be “national” and would have nothing to do with any “loot” being brought back to the district.
Scriptor on December 12, 2011 at 11:19 AM
I live in New Jersey; I’m represented by two Democratic Party senators who don’t give a hoot about the state and one Democratic Representative in the House who cares only about the Democratic Party strongholds in his gerrymandered district. NJ 6 looks more like some outlandish creature than the original “That’s not a salamander; that’s a Gerry-mander” district. NJ 6 is a Jersey-mander. And it’s got to stop. Tea Party groups have got lawsuits in place on redistricting. Watch them; support us.
njcommuter on December 12, 2011 at 11:22 AM
What amazes me most in the poll results is that there are 7% who still trust members of the Congress. Who are they? They are not the insiders and staffers, as most of them aren’t THAT stupid. They can’t even be the family members – not with the daily dose of Sodom & Gomorrah going on in Washington DC. The only version I could come up with is that all positive responses were provided by people who didn’t hear the question over the phone…
PS: Seven Percent Solution, any input on that?
Archivarix on December 12, 2011 at 11:36 AM
Another case where a poll is making news; not tracking the news. And one problem is that Congress is two entities and currently they are controlled by the 2 major parties. We may like some actions taken by the House, the Senate ignores those actions. Many of the people polled have busy lives and do not have time, perhaps, to pay attention to that. And the one media outlet that many of us rely upon, mistakenly, does not take the time to point that out and lumps both together. Not that the Repubs are doing enough or are not doing insider trading, there is a difference that is not accounted for in the polls. That may raise the number slightly.
democratsarefools on December 12, 2011 at 12:03 PM
They always campaign on fiscal responsibility and the have budget reconciliations where they compromise on equal large shares of pork barrel spending. That budget deal where they promised billions in reductions and upon examination turned out to be a few million broke faith with the electorate. Too many seem incapable of doing the right thing though it is perfectly clear what that is.
dunce on December 12, 2011 at 12:08 PM
At least we know how a used-car salespeople are going to try to screw us… It’s completely open to the imagination with congress critter types.
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RalphyBoy on December 12, 2011 at 12:13 PM
This poll doesn’t tell us why people hate congress. Is it because dems don’t like the republicans in it? Is it the other way around? Is it a combination of both?
When we elected a republican house in 2010 we knew we were going to get gridlock. That was really the best a conservative could hope for. Are our memories that short?
trigon on December 12, 2011 at 12:32 PM
When you deal with a used-car salesman, you at least end up getting SOMETHING out of the deal. It may not be exactly what you were promised, but it will at least have four wheels and a motor, and it will at least run for a little while.
That doesn’t apply to politicians. He takes your money, and gives something to someone else.
Now, what those recipients actually get may be of far lower quality than the worst automotive lemon ever foisted on a sucker – and of infinitely less value for dollar spent. But why would they complain about that? The only beef they have is that they aren’t getting enough “free” stuff from the “greedy” bastards who aren’t giving it to them.
So the only people who could be OK with that are those who believe that juuust the right amount of shafting is going on. That’s a pretty tough needle to thread. If Congress is getting seven percent approval, it’s only because they are working their asses off to hit that bullseye.
logis on December 12, 2011 at 12:33 PM
Good point.
Boodad on December 12, 2011 at 12:58 PM
You would think it would be more negative for retired members of congress (lobbyists). Well at least it’s close.
D-Bar on December 12, 2011 at 1:15 PM
On top of many of the good points made previously, it also bears consideration that our congressmen are not nearly as much voted for by “the people” as we’d like to believe. Oh, we certainly are the ones that walk into the voting booth and push the button or lever for whichever sleazeball has our preferred letter next to their name or maybe which one we think leaves a slightly less disgusting taste in our mouth, but so many votes are cast by (as someone pointed out above) such an uniformed electorate picking a candidate by name recognition… probably the name they have been seeing for years and years, since its most likely to be the recognized one. However, when we really break it down, it comes back to the lobbyists. The congressman ensures they vote certain ways on certain legislation to appease the lobbyists who funnel the appropriate dollars to the campaign of the aforementioned sleazeball. That is how the congressman then affords all of those ads on tv and radio, and the eight gajillion signs in the local roadway medians and people’s yards… usually about 37 of them in a row. Someone’s gotta pay for all of those annoying signs. Which brings us full circle to name recognition and the uniformed voter… Ever wonder why the campaign for said congressman put 37 signs in a row at that one intersection, as if you couldnt read it the first five signs? Yup… drum their name into your head, so when the average joe wanders into the voting booth with no idea which way his congressman votes on the issues, that name will be stuck in their heads and they will pull that lever.
Personally, I think the entire system has become disgustingly corrupt. Campaign finance reform would be #1 on my list of issues to get Congress working the way it is supposed to, and get the lobbyists the hell out of the picture. But when Congress sets the rules, and then benefits by those rules, why would they ever change the rules?
gravityman on December 12, 2011 at 1:23 PM
Hear, hear! This is certainly one possibility. But I have an couple of alternative suggestions.
1) I’d like to force Congress to actually have to approve all the regulations the various agencies pass. The EPA, for instance, has been busy passing regulations that are clearly not within its legal authority.
2) I’d also propose a sunset law that forces agencies to have to constantly appeal to Congress for approval – they can’t simply pass regulations that automatically have the force of law.
These two suggestions would have two benefits. First, they might help to keep Congress out of mischief if they have to actually approve and deny these out-of-control agencies. You see, Congress would be kept busy policing these agencies instead of thinking up new ways to steal from the taxpayers. And secondly, if agencies had to get their regulations approved by Congress first, their ability to damage the economy would be somewhat minimized. Thoughts?
StoneHeads on December 12, 2011 at 1:35 PM
If you feel like you couldn’t buy a car from them, why make them Representative of your own district?
The Nerve on December 12, 2011 at 4:23 PM
Meaningless poll. The problem is that most people like THEIR congressperson but hates YOUR congress critter. How do you think the Pelosis, the Boxers, the Rangels keep getting elected over and over?
Bevan on December 12, 2011 at 4:25 PM
So how do they poll against Hollywood pedophiles? Inquiring minds would like to know.
chickasaw42 on December 12, 2011 at 4:37 PM
The problem with attempting to throw them out is that the alternative is usually not any better than what we already have. At least with an incumbent you know what you’re getting. What is pathetic and sad about the political climate in this country is that we the people trust no one…and, just speaking for myself, it’s six of one and half a dozen of the other whether I vote my snake oil salesman congressman back into office, or choose to vote for the new charlatan that can just find new ways to screw America. So sad, but what these polls and election trends may represent is the absolute cynicism and loss of hope Americans have that any candidate is really worth the trip to the ballot box…
mlewis7299 on December 12, 2011 at 5:18 PM
The poll goes right in line with my opinion that I’d rather buy a used car than a new Volt.
Govicide on December 12, 2011 at 5:42 PM
Why does Congress make laws that they exempt themselves from? Why are Congressmen’s kids exempted from student loans? Why can they retire after one term at full pay and benefits for the rest of their lives? Why does Congress talk about cutting the Social Security that we fund and cutting the funds to our military and never, never cut the funds to the EPA, DEC, ED, FEMA, IRS, DOA, DOE and a host of others too numerous to mention? Because these are government entitlement programs stuffed with federal workers sucking the blood out of our country that they call bureaucracies. Is it any wonder we don’t trust Congress.
mixplix on December 12, 2011 at 6:17 PM