Boehner to Obama: Thanks for the veto threat!

posted at 12:30 pm on December 9, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

What’s a House Speaker to do when his conference starts balking at his strategy?  When conservatives resisted John Boehner’s efforts to craft a payroll-tax cut extension package, The Hill reports that Boehner got a lifeline from a most unlikely source (via Instapundit):

For House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), there’s nothing like a presidential veto threat to make his job easier.

The Speaker earned positive reviews for the revised payroll tax cut package he presented to the House Republican conference Thursday, a sharp turnaround from the resistance he faced from conservatives when he first outlined his plan last week.

Republican leaders added a number of sweeteners to the package to win conservative support, but several lawmakers said that more than anything else, the turning point was President Obama’s threat on Wednesday to reject the payroll tax bill if the House attached a provision forcing administrative action on the Keystone XL oil sands pipeline.

The pipeline issue isn’t the only one addressed in the new package.  Boehner also has language that will delay the EPA’s MACT rules on boilers, as well as crack down on the use of tax credits by illegal immigrants.  In exchange, the bill would apply the doc-fix to Medicare and extend unemployment benefits, paying for both by imposing a pay freeze for federal workers and more fees for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Given GOP resistance to continually extending unemployment insurance benefits, it’s not a surprise that the conservatives in his caucus balked at the proposal.  The veto threat changed the game:

Rep. Mike Coffman (R-Colo.) called the shift in attitude “a stunning change.”

“It was a 180-degree difference,” he told reporters.

Democrats in the House could still oppose it, of course, and the Senate could refuse to take it up at all.  However, they’re not doing any better, even with Democratic proposals on the payroll-tax cut extension:

The Senate on Thursday rejected dueling partisan proposals to slash federal payroll taxes for 160 million Americans, while House Republicans trotted out a new, more conservative plan that sought to link the tax issue to other GOP priorities. …

Despite the time crunch, the House and Senate concluded work for this week — neither chamber has votes scheduled Friday — with little sign of compromise on the increasingly contentious payroll tax issue. Instead, both parties spent the week digging in.

Eager to paint Republicans as defenders of tax cuts only for the wealthy, Democrats forced a vote Thursday on a $185 billion bill that paid for the tax cut in part with a 1.9 percent surtax on those making more than $1 million a year — even though a similar measure was blocked only a week ago.

It was blocked again Thursday on a 50 to 48 vote, with 60 votes needed to proceed.

The inclusion of the unemployment benefit extension and the doc-fix makes the Boehner proposal difficult to oppose for Democrats.  Both have been priorities, and the doc-fix has been an albatross around their necks that the GOP have used to attack ObamaCare for years.  The postponement of the boiler rules won’t have too much impact on Democratic priorities, but the pipeline will cause some of them to balk — although maybe not all of them.  Obama insisted that his payroll tax cut extension would create more jobs than the pipeline, but why choose between them?  Why not do both, and get the Republicans on the hook for the unemployment benefits and doc-fix at the same time?

At the very least, it will be difficult for Democrats to oppose it in public, and if they do, the Republicans can then argue that they have moved on all of the voters’ priorities while an obstructionist Senate refuses to consider more than two dozen jobs bills passed in the House.  It’s not a bad strategy, and Obama’s veto threat makes it even more attractive.

Addendum: It should be noted that the payroll-tax cut extension is a waste of time and money.  The cut didn’t produce any growth in 2011, mainly because it’s temporary, and at the same time it’s bleeding a Social Security fund that’s already in the red.  An honest approach would be to implement permanent tax reforms on which businesses could rely for investment pricing.

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For House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), there’s nothing like a presidential veto threat to make his job easier.

Was he crying when he said it?

upinak on December 9, 2011 at 12:33 PM

The unions, if their bosses had/used their brains, would be violent against Reid and Obama, alas…they are not for jobs.

Union members, you are used fools. Open yer eyed and go after your masters, with pitchforks.

Schadenfreude on December 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Boehner to Obama: Thanks for the veto threat!

Obama: The Partisan of No.

Chip on December 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Obama is awesome!

Lily on December 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Obama, Reid, Pelosi and union bosses are NOT for blue color jobs in the U.S.

Otherwise they’d approve the Canadian pipeline project.

Media, suffocate from dereliction of duty.

Schadenfreude on December 9, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Addendum: It should be noted that the payroll-tax cut extension is a waste of time and money. The cut didn’t produce any growth in 2011, mainly because it’s temporary, and at the same time it’s bleeding a Social Security fund that’s already in the red. An honest approach would be to implement permanent tax reforms on which businesses could rely for investment pricing.

But that wouldn’t “Spread the Wealth around” – the polar opposite of El Presidente Downgrade’s National Marxist agenda.

Chip on December 9, 2011 at 12:37 PM

the bill would apply the doc-fix to Medicare

Will the CBO now recalulate the cost of Obamacare? IIRC, the DocFix was a hefty part of the “savings”.

BacaDog on December 9, 2011 at 12:37 PM

Otherwise they’d approve the Canadian pipeline project.

Schadenfreude on December 9, 2011 at 12:35 PM

the Alaska-Canada pipeline hasn’t been approved… what makes you think the Keystone one would have been?

upinak on December 9, 2011 at 12:37 PM

Obama is awesome!

Lily on December 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM

/sarc??

Chip on December 9, 2011 at 12:38 PM

/sarc??

Chip on December 9, 2011 at 12:38 PM

or fresh meat.

upinak on December 9, 2011 at 12:39 PM

Well I’ll be

Good for johnny

cmsinaz on December 9, 2011 at 12:39 PM

Obama… the gift that keeps on giving…

Is he in Hawaii yet?

Khun Joe on December 9, 2011 at 12:41 PM

Apparently, no one cares that Social Security is being bled dry. The payroll tax vacay was a bad idea to begin with and has made matters worse as time has gone on. Fewer people working means fewer people contributing anything to the system. Coupled with the tax reprieve it’s no wonder my age bracket will lose everything we put into that scheme. I’ve wanted to opt out for the last 30 years, but nooooooooooo, I couldn’t. Now, I won’t get any of my own money back let alone any monthly benefit.

totherightofthem on December 9, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Everything is politics with Obama…he will allow the pipeline to go through, it will just be in October of 2012. Its win win right now.

He will use Environmentalists for their donations until October. Then he will approve the pipeline, say he is creating jobs, and the environmentalists will vote for him anyway.

dernst2 on December 9, 2011 at 12:42 PM

/sarc??

Chip on December 9, 2011 at 12:38 PM

N00b?

Lily on December 9, 2011 at 12:43 PM

Yet another example of Dear Leader’s blazing intellect. /

CPT. Charles on December 9, 2011 at 12:44 PM

Merry Christmas John!
Love,
Barack

marku on December 9, 2011 at 12:46 PM

Obama insisted that his payroll tax cut extension would create more jobs than the pipeline

How does paying people to not work create jobs?

I’m not opposed to unemployment insurance, but it obviously raises the price of labor, which reduces job numbers.

18-1 on December 9, 2011 at 12:47 PM

Obama is awesome!

Lily on December 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Hi Lily!

Fallon on December 9, 2011 at 12:48 PM

Addendum: It should be noted that the payroll-tax cut extension is a waste of time and money. The cut didn’t produce any growth in 2011

There it is…..we need to remember that this is another “fool me once” moment brought to you by Li’l barry and his ship of fools.

Tim_CA on December 9, 2011 at 12:49 PM

Obama couldn’t beat my nine-year old daughter at checkers.

Double-jump, double-jump, “King me!”

“Oh, uh, didn’t see that one, did I?”

“Mr. Presdident, when you make a move, you really should check to see what will happen after you make it, not just when you make it.”

“Heh, heh. Tell that to Valerie, uh, what was your name?”

“Nancy.” Double-jump. “I win.”

“D’oh!”

smellthecoffee on December 9, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Does this mean that the only way Republicans can be unified is by fighting Democrats?

P.S. My first post at “Hot Gas.”

Gladtobehere on December 9, 2011 at 12:53 PM

N00b?

Lily on December 9, 2011 at 12:43 PM

Crr6?

VegasRick on December 9, 2011 at 12:53 PM

I like the idea of the extensions coupled with something that has the substantive opportunity for job growth and development. I do that with my kids. Yes, you can have another cookie, and then you can empty the dishwasher.

redmama on December 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Fallon on December 9, 2011 at 12:48 PM

Hey, Fallon. Thanks for the linky. I can’t access such things from my current location.

Lily on December 9, 2011 at 12:57 PM

VegasRick on December 9, 2011 at 12:53 PM

You guys have short memories. Remember this? Lily’s not new.

Fallon on December 9, 2011 at 12:58 PM

So Obama is against jobs preserving payroll tax cut because the package includes a jobs creating oil pipeline? Ok then.

Daemonocracy on December 9, 2011 at 12:59 PM

/sarc??

Chip on December 9, 2011 at 12:38 PM

or fresh meat.

upinak on December 9, 2011 at 12:39 PM

*rubbing hands*
maniacal laugh

Chip on December 9, 2011 at 1:00 PM

/sarc??

Chip on December 9, 2011 at 12:38 PM

N00b?

Lily on December 9, 2011 at 12:43 PM

Sometimes, it’s hard to tell.

Chip on December 9, 2011 at 1:01 PM

Hi all. My first time commenting here so just doing a test run.

shelly99032 on December 9, 2011 at 1:01 PM

I actually think that Obama in this case is playing the Rep. like a fiddle.

He totally telegraphed this thing for political reasons.

He wanted to get the pipeline done, cause he knows he needs jobs in this country, and that pipeline will make that happen…..almost instantly.

But he had to refuse it, to keep his Eco Wacko base happy….

So now Repubs. force his hand….and he will fold the same way he did on the Bush tax cuts.
Then he will get to come out and say “Hey, I wanted to stop this pipeline, but I am not heartless and not willing to put the middle class on the hook for a tax increase. Shame on those Republicans for playing this kind of game with the middle class.”

Don’t underestimate Obama……I think we will live to regret it.

MityMaxx on December 9, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Ed Morrisey said:

Addendum: It should be noted that the payroll-tax cut extension is a waste of time and money. The cut didn’t produce any growth in 2011, mainly because it’s temporary,

The Definition of Insanity for $200 Alex!

Yeah, hadn’t thought about that? If anything, going to the mat for it only accentuates the fact so many of us ( along w/ $4 gas they can’t seem to “do anything about?” ) are living on razor thin margins!

Pass it, DON’T pass it… whatever! Either way, we’re broke. And just in time for the Holidaze.

Marshall_Will on December 9, 2011 at 1:03 PM

You guys have short memories.

Fallon on December 9, 2011 at 12:58 PM

Nope, not short. I am doing what most voters do at the moment… don’t know crap about anyone and pretend I do.

upinak on December 9, 2011 at 1:05 PM

Sometimes, it’s hard to tell.

Chip on December 9, 2011 at 1:01 PM

Naaa… just pretend she is and move on.

upinak on December 9, 2011 at 1:06 PM

Is this that hot gas site ive been hearing about?
Hold the rino feet to the fire cons !

ConcealedKerry on December 9, 2011 at 1:07 PM

Sometimes, it’s hard to tell.

Chip on December 9, 2011 at 1:01 PM

Just so you know, with me, it’s always hard to tell. Sarc tags offend my delicate sensibilities. Besides, you never know who you are going to catch not paying attention.

I must be getting soft in my old age, explaining myself to the n00bs.

Now get off my lawn!

Lily on December 9, 2011 at 1:08 PM

I must be getting soft in my old age, explaining myself to the n00bs.
Lily on December 9, 2011 at 1:08 PM

You are still new by many. Keep playing though.

upinak on December 9, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Fun and games in DC, politics as usual. Like the Talking Heads song goes…same as it ever was…

scalleywag on December 9, 2011 at 1:11 PM

Checkmate in … 5,,,4,,,,3,,,2,,,,

as long as John Boehner makes his move before the clock runs out.

Shain1611 on December 9, 2011 at 1:17 PM

In exchange, the bill would apply the doc-fix to Medicare

But…but….but Nancy SAID that ObamaCare would take care of this continuing problem. WHAT HAPPENDED?

GarandFan on December 9, 2011 at 1:17 PM

Apparently, no one cares that Social Security is being bled dry….

totherightofthem on December 9, 2011 at 12:42 PM

This is what I’ve been screaming.

robertlbryant on December 9, 2011 at 1:18 PM

Unfortunately, if the GOP leadership has shown us anything, it is that they will get taken advantage of at the earliest opportunity. Obama will sign anything that comes across his desk with the payroll tax reduction and unemployment extended. Then he will instruct his minions to promptly find a way to tie up any work on Keystone. The end result will be a wink and a nod to the enviros and him being able to run commercials showing him as a tax cutter.

A win-win for the White House and another unfortunate example of the GOP being played for fools.

Oh, and Barry gets Doc Fix too.

Inignort on December 9, 2011 at 1:19 PM

Crr6?

VegasRick on December 9, 2011 at 12:53 PM

LOL!

cajun carrot on December 9, 2011 at 1:22 PM

Both Obama and Pelosi are generous Christmas givers, no?

LetsBfrank on December 9, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Obama is awesome!

Lily on December 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM

The drawbacks of open enrollment for new commenters.

Is Lily a pseudonym for Vladimir Putin, Mahmoud Ahmedinejad, or Hugo Chavez?

Steve Z on December 9, 2011 at 1:24 PM

now, the gop better not negotiate with the senate until the senate actually passes a bill

none of this negotiating only the house passed bill, ya hear…

done it already and that didn’t work out for us so well…

cmsinaz on December 9, 2011 at 1:25 PM

What I don’t understand is why the GOP is not out there pushing back. They have passed numerous jobs bills in the house while the democrats in the senate do nothing. They should be pushing the narrative instead of being pushed.

ak moose stew on December 9, 2011 at 1:27 PM

ak moose stew on December 9, 2011 at 1:27 PM

i wish…they need a countdown clock like dear leader with how many days the senate hasn’t passed a budget…

cmsinaz on December 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM

Steve Z on December 9, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Lily is no noob….and she(?) has a great sense of humor. One of her one-liners had my entire poker-gang busting up the other night (even the Liberal, that we spend no small amount of time torturing).

Hang tough Lil…we need more conservatives with an operating sense of humor.

Tim_CA on December 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM

Steve Z on December 9, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Lily is no noob….and she(?) has a great sense of humor. One of her one-liners had my entire poker-gang busting up the other night (even the Liberal, that we spend no small amount of time torturing).

Hang tough Lil…we need more conservatives with an operating sense of humor.

Tim_CA on December 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM

An honest approach would be to implement permanent tax reforms on which businesses could rely for investment pricing.

Chuckle…clearly you still have some sort of hope left.

oldroy on December 9, 2011 at 1:30 PM

What I don’t understand is why the GOP is not out there pushing back.
ak moose stew on December 9, 2011 at 1:27 PM

they want O to stumble on his wee wee. And show the O is an idiot. But we already knew that. To bad the GoP isn’t helping a little.

upinak on December 9, 2011 at 1:32 PM

The cut didn’t produce any growth in 2011, mainly because it’s temporary, and at the same time it’s bleeding a Social Security fund that’s already in the red. An honest approach would be to implement permanent tax reforms on which businesses could rely for investment pricing.

That is a total plus in my book. The sooner the program dies of its own weight, the better for the nation as a whole.

astonerii on December 9, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Addendum: It should be noted that the payroll-tax cut extension is a waste of time and money. The cut didn’t produce any growth in 2011, mainly because it’s temporary, and at the same time it’s bleeding a Social Security fund that’s already in the red. An honest approach would be to implement permanent tax reforms on which businesses could rely for investment pricing.

That’s the whole point. Last I heard, SS zero-day was in 2020. By bleeding the SS now and reducing the workforce that pays into it, it’ll bring zero-day closer to 2015 or 2016. If Oboobi wins and the Dems can hold some seats now and gain more in 2014, they’ll be able to ram thru a “SS fix”. It’s not so much kicking the can down the road, as it is kicking it to land within a certain timeframe. If you thot OC was bad, wait till you see ObamaSecurity.

AH_C on December 9, 2011 at 1:33 PM

As long as Obama wants it, NO.

As long as Obama doesn’t want it, YES.

Sticking to your core values, I see.

RanchTooth on December 9, 2011 at 1:33 PM

I’m not so sure the lyin king signs this. If rush is right he may prefer to play both sides of the pipeline issue for campaign cash. Anyway bet it gets done soon theres christmas gifts for the congress critters to steal.
The repunks had better leave someone to watch the senate or recess appointment will start that new watchdog thievery up.

ConcealedKerry on December 9, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Inignort said:

Unfortunately, if the GOP leadership has shown us anything, it is that they will get taken advantage of at the earliest opportunity.

( I’m beginning to see a pattern here..? )

Yeah, this ain’t a scene of mercy from The Karate Kid Part III guys! And are we STILL talking about exten…..ding UnenJOYment? To what ‘end’ may I ask? Peter Schiff had a great interview where he addressed what a disservice this has been.

They’ve been out of the workforce so long their skills have gone fallow. The origins of Unemployment Insurance was intended as coverage during routine plant shutdowns etc. Not a lifestyle.

Marshall_Will on December 9, 2011 at 1:35 PM

What is needed is an end to base line budgeting and a serious attempt to fix Medicare and Social Security. Anything else is just politics as usual.

edsjim on December 9, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Odumbo is the gift that keeps on giving. Too bad the GOP doesn’t have the stones to capitalize on it.

ak moose stew on December 9, 2011 at 1:39 PM

For once the GOP in Congress is not being stupid. The 2012 election will be mostly about the economy and ObamaCare, unless there is a dramatic and unexpected development (think Iran or European collapse). Democrats are frantically trying to change the topic, and that is what this tax ploy represents. But if history is any guide the Democrats are on a fool’s errand if the GOP keeps out of the way of the Democrats’ self destruction and have their own GOP plans ready and vetted for 2013 and thereafter. This latest move by the House GOP is dead-on correct.

KenMcK on December 9, 2011 at 1:42 PM

Everything depends on how fast Obama wants to go on vacation.
If they forward it to him with the provision he wants to veto, then he can go on vacation and say he will probably veto it when he comes back (because no one is in Washington DC anymore anyway).
If they forward it to him without the Keystone provision, its plane time, he can computer sign that thing on the beach of Waikiki.

One probably gets him a couple more rounds of golf than the other.

How do they say “Fore” in Hawaiian?

albill on December 9, 2011 at 1:45 PM

What is needed is an end to base line budgeting and a serious attempt to fix Medicare and Social Security. Anything else is just politics as usual.

edsjim on December 9, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Maybe it is me but WTF do you think fixing a ponzi scheme is going to do?

If you paid into SS and Medicare, like we all have, you better just come to the conclusion that you will probably never see a dime of that money!

upinak on December 9, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Apparently, no one cares that Social Security is being bled dry. The payroll tax vacay was a bad idea to begin with and has made matters worse as time has gone on. Fewer people working means fewer people contributing anything to the system.

totherightofthem on December 9, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Whether more or fewer people are contributing is irrelevant under the current system. It all gets looted as soon as the cash hits the treasury. Social Security needs to be REFORMED so that the political class can’t get their spindly little fingers on it.

Finbar on December 9, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Tim_CA on December 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM

Thanks for the post so nice it showed up twice!

Lily on December 9, 2011 at 1:49 PM

How about just decoupling SSA from taxes permanently? I mean that is the direction that particular cuts to a program in the red are heading…

ajacksonian on December 9, 2011 at 1:54 PM

The pipeline issue isn’t the only one addressed in the new package. Boehner also has language that will delay the EPA’s MACT rules on boilers, as well as crack down on the use of tax credits by illegal immigrants. In exchange, the bill would apply the doc-fix to Medicare and extend unemployment benefits, paying for both by imposing a pay freeze for federal workers and more fees for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

As long as we’re attaching conditions how about adding some more:
Open ANWR to drilling
A ten year moratorium on new EPA regulations
Repeal Sarbanes/Oxley, Dodd/Frank, DMCA

Add enough demands so that when a few are dropped we can say its a compromise.

agmartin on December 9, 2011 at 1:55 PM

Tim_CA on December 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM

It looks like some people are on high alert with the recent open registration. There’s gonna be some confusion and friendly fire until the dust settles. For the next few weeks, we might need to set our phasers on stun and use the sarc tag (/) if there is any doubt.

And, I think it needed to be said twice… ;) Oh, um… /

Fallon on December 9, 2011 at 1:56 PM

Addendum: It should be noted that the payroll-tax cut extension is a waste of time and money.  The cut didn’t produce any growth in 2011, mainly because it’s temporary, and at the same time it’s bleeding a Social Security fund that’s already in the red.  An honest approach would be to implement permanent tax reforms on which businesses could rely for investment pricing.

C’mon, Ed, that would be too easy!

herm2416 on December 9, 2011 at 2:04 PM

Obama insisted that his payroll tax cut extension would create more jobs than the pipeline, but why choose between them?

Let’s not forget the big difference between those two. One of those doesn’t require taxpayer money to fund.

taznar on December 9, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Thanks for the post so nice it showed up twice!

Lily on December 9, 2011 at 1:49 PM

And, I think it needed to be said twice… ;) Oh, um… /

Fallon on December 9, 2011 at 1:56 PM

;-)

Odd that it double-posted.

Tim_CA on December 9, 2011 at 2:07 PM

As long as we’re attaching conditions how about adding some more:
Open ANWR to drilling
A ten year moratorium on new EPA regulations
Repeal Sarbanes/Oxley, Dodd/Frank, DMCA

Add enough demands so that when a few are dropped we can say its a compromise.

agmartin on December 9, 2011 at 1:55 PM

EPA moratorium would shut down every drill rig in the Nation.
Repealing the Sarb and Ox would cause more Enron’s.

upinak on December 9, 2011 at 2:08 PM

I think people are missing the point of the payroll tax breaks. If you have no federal income tax obligation already, income tax cuts do nothing for you. An increase in the Earned Income Credit would never fly so this payroll tax break is the only way to pay off the base.

Capt Blasto on December 9, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Repealing the Sarb and Ox would cause more Enron’s.

upinak on December 9, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Not really, since existing laws were sufficient to convict the Enron perps. All SOx did was increase the cost of doing business unnecessairly. Did anyone notice that MF Global execs were recently pushing employees to invest 100% into MFG before the collaspe? Same as tactic Enron and both bankrupt.

While those employees that lost their 401K etc on Enron might have been gullible, shame on the MFG employees for being stupid and greedy.

AH_C on December 9, 2011 at 2:15 PM

Tell us again genius how passing a payroll tax cut has anything remotely to do with the development of an oil pipeline? They’re mutually exclusive. Oh wait ….

How does this clown stand there with a straight face and say this stuff? Most of us tuned him out a long time ago. The scary thing is how many idiots still believe it.

It’s not about 1% or 99% – the real problem is the 40% who’ll follow this moron no matter what.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on December 9, 2011 at 2:25 PM

Good for Boehner. Attach it. Get the Senate Dems on record. Reid may have a real problem on his hands.

matthew8787 on December 9, 2011 at 2:31 PM

What is needed is an end to base line budgeting and a serious attempt to fix Medicare and Social Security. Anything else is just politics as usual.

edsjim on December 9, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Maybe it is me but WTF do you think fixing a ponzi scheme is going to do?

If you paid into SS and Medicare, like we all have, you better just come to the conclusion that you will probably never see a dime of that money!

upinak on December 9, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Sorry pal but I have been collecting since 2005.

edsjim on December 9, 2011 at 2:45 PM

It should be noted that the payroll-tax cut extension is a waste of time and money. The cut didn’t produce any growth in 2011, mainly because it’s temporary

Wrong.

Sorry, Ed; I don’t like to do this to you, but you’re wrong on the major reason.

The system is funded by a 12.4 percent payroll tax equally divided between workers and employers. Congress cut the employee portion this year by 2 percentage points

Note the employer portion? Unchanged.

The temporary problem would have been significant if it cut employee costs to an employer. Since it didn’t being permanent wouldn’t help job growth in any noticeable fashion.

gekkobear on December 9, 2011 at 2:49 PM

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Barred on December 9, 2011 at 2:52 PM

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Barred on December 9, 2011 at 2:52 PM

ED….Toss this guy for excessive sucking up.

(I kid because I love)

Tim_CA on December 9, 2011 at 3:33 PM

If the median American Income is 60,000 then this 1.5% payroll tax is saving most families only $900 a year, or $75 a month. To me its a bit like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic given the fact Congress hasn’t passed a budget in a thousand days. At least it keeps Congress distracted from spending more money in the short term.

NovaReady on December 9, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Whether more or fewer people are contributing is irrelevant under the current system. It all gets looted as soon as the cash hits the treasury. Social Security needs to be REFORMED so that the political class can’t get their spindly little fingers on it.

Finbar on December 9, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Good point. As it is, I’ll never see even the cash I paid into it that I earned. *sigh* This administration and the weaklings in Congress have not done my blood pressure any good at all.

totherightofthem on December 9, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Obama memo to self. Dear John, Merry Christmas…

fistbump on December 9, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Clever move by Mr. Boehner. By putting the Pipeline into play he really does put some pressure on Obama to not Punt a key issue to the next President.

Blu3Yeti on December 9, 2011 at 8:23 PM

The democrats do not care that the SS fund will technically go broke sooner. It has been a farce since they passed legislation to spend the funds as soon as they came in and most republicans joined in the spending party on pork projects. Just like every other failed program they have started that had cost explosion, they will blame it on the republicans and demand higher taxes to fund the revenue deficits. The republicans will mumble and bumble but be unable to defend themselves or counter attack. This has been the pattern for years. I hope i am wrong.

dunce on December 9, 2011 at 8:26 PM