Steve King’s uncertainty about GOP candidates indicative of general indecision in Iowa

posted at 8:30 pm on December 7, 2011 by Tina Korbe

Even though numerous polls show Newt Gingrich with a wide lead in Iowa, The Fix’s Chris Cillizza thinks the race in the Hawkeye State is still fluid — and I agree. As evidence, he offers tidbits from an interview with Rep. Steve King, the solidly conservative, committed-to-Obamacare-repeal congressman from Iowa’s fifth district.

King, who had hoped to endorse a candidate as early as September or October, told Cillizza he’s not sure he’ll be able to endorse anyone at all because no “full spectrum conservative” has emerged as a truly viable contender:

In an interview Tuesday with the Fix, King said that while the race’s two current frontrunners — former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney — have “articulated” a conservative policy platform “when you look at the records it’s a little harder to accept it all as its delivered.” …

On the other end of the spectrum, King said that while both Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann and former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum are unquestionably committed to the conservative cause, neither of them has been able to generate much excitement behind their candidacies in Iowa.

“Had either of them been able to catch some momentum, this would have been easier,” said King of his endorsement dilemma. “A candidate has to have their own fuel…to lift themselves off the launching pad.”

King is not the only Iowan who hasn’t completely made up his mind. A full 60 percent of Iowans say they might still change their opinions about their preferred candidate, according to a recent Des Moines Register poll.

At this point, the likely truth is that Gingrich’s lead in the state is solid. Not only does he lead the polls, but he still stands to gain from Herman Cain’s recent suspension of his campaign. Plus, in the very polls Gingrich leads, he’s a popular second-choice candidate — so mind-changing might benefit him as much as anyone. Gingrich himself says he’s most concerned about a Ron Paul pick-off in Iowa, but Ron Paul is a love-him-or-hate-him kind of candidate, so it seems unlikely Iowans who haven’t yet warmed to him will become Ron Paul disciples between now and Jan. 3.

Still, with all that in mind, Rick Perry’s planned push in Iowa — and his blatant attempts to pick up evangelical Christian voters in the socially conservative state — might not be totally in vain. Similarly, Iowans could surprise with votes for Michele Bachmann or Rick Santorum, the most socially conservative candidates in the race. Point is, even with less than a month to go, Iowa is still winnable for more candidates than just Gingrich.

 


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If Gingrich doesn’t implode very soon, my guess is that he’s the nominee. There isn’t really enough time for another notRomney to emerge before Iowa. I don’t see it being as fluid as Cillizza does.

vegconservative on December 7, 2011 at 8:34 PM

F Steve King, hasn’t written anything of note since The Stand.

carbon_footprint on December 7, 2011 at 8:38 PM

I don’t see it being as fluid as Cillizza does.

vegconservative on December 7, 2011 at 8:34 PM

I don’t either, really. Rep. King is sitting on the fence and wondering whether it is a good idea to get behind Newt, or stick with the Establishment safe bet and go with Romney. It’s a tough call when your co-workers like Mitt and your constituents will most likely like Newt.

Punchenko on December 7, 2011 at 8:40 PM

OT: And I hope this hasn’t been posted in another thread. If it has, my apologies.

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Flora Duh on December 7, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Steve King shoud change his name to Steve Queen!!
/Baldwin

abobo on December 7, 2011 at 8:45 PM

I don’t either, really. Rep. King is sitting on the fence and wondering whether it is a good idea to get behind Newt, or stick with the Establishment safe bet and go with Romney. It’s a tough call when your co-workers like Mitt and your constituents will most likely like Newt.

Punchenko on December 7, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Newt so far has very few endorsements, in fact the only notRomney to win a large number of big endorsements was Rick Perry. All the powers that be figured he’d be the last notRomney out there, but then he stumbled. I suspect Newt will start getting more endorsements closer to the Iowa Caucuses, as he starts to become just as inevitable as Gingrich, at least with regard to the Iowa Caucus.

vegconservative on December 7, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Flora Duh on December 7, 2011 at 8:45 PM

oops. I see there has already been a thread posted about it. My apologies, and I do hope you’ll cut a noob some slack.

Flora Duh on December 7, 2011 at 8:52 PM

well sadly, this is our field. the reason there is so much indecision and uncertainty is that the field is just lacking. a “full spectrum conservative” would be nice: someone who has a record of reform and who has conservative values, how isn’t a serial flip-flopper. sadly, romney and gingrich have questionable conservative values. yet they are the frontrunners… sigh.

bachmann and santorum aren’t gaining traction although bachmann was doing well a while back! she just messed up too much to recover. santorum’s okay but he never gained traction. it’s true that a “full spectrum conservative” would need to launch themselves with their own fuel, and i just don’t see that happening with santorum. perry is like bachmann, he fell down too hard and messed up too much.

that’s why i keep promoting the “sarah earthquake” movement so much. WE NEED A NEW CHOICE IN THIS FIELD. she fits the description of “full spectrum conservative who can launch themselves with their own fuel.” we have nothing to lose by asking her to reconsider so we might as well do it.

Sachiko on December 7, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Flora Duh on December 7, 2011 at 8:45 PM

New e-mails: ATF officials discussed using Fast & Furious to … push gun control

posted at 4:15 pm on December 7, 2011 by Allahpundit

Newbies…

… You have to love their eagerness!

/

Seven Percent Solution on December 7, 2011 at 8:53 PM

it’s okay flora, thanks for sharing!!

Sachiko on December 7, 2011 at 8:54 PM

At this point, the likely truth is that Gingrich’s lead in the state is solid.

I agree Tina…

… but we should wait until all the voter fraud is counted so we really know who to vote for.

/

Seven Percent Solution on December 7, 2011 at 8:59 PM

that’s why i keep promoting the “sarah earthquake” movement so much. WE NEED A NEW CHOICE IN THIS FIELD. she fits the description of “full spectrum conservative who can launch themselves with their own fuel.” we have nothing to lose by asking her to reconsider so we might as well do it.

Sachiko on December 7, 2011 at 8:53 PM

The trolls are going to hit you….LOL

idesign on December 7, 2011 at 9:00 PM

that’s why i keep promoting the “sarah earthquake” movement so much. WE NEED A NEW CHOICE IN THIS FIELD. she fits the description of “full spectrum conservative who can launch themselves with their own fuel.” we have nothing to lose by asking her to reconsider so we might as well do it.

Sachiko on December 7, 2011 at 8:53 PM

She’s my first choice but unless she does run I’m with Newt.

tinkerthinker on December 7, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Onward to vetting the Real Deal!!
(sarc)

canopfor on December 7, 2011 at 9:01 PM

“A candidate has to have their own fuel…to lift themselves off the launching pad.”

Rick Perry has hot gas! That’s a fuel!
/

Speaking of “Sarah Earthquake,” she just called O!bama a phony on Hannity.

predator on December 7, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Hah, look at all those new names!

Though I’m certainly not a disinterested observer, I would not be at all surprised if Ron Paul wins in Iowa. He has the strongest on-the-ground organization, and he’s recruited upwards of 500 student volunteers to staff his GOTV effort from the end of December through the caucuses.

But most importantly, of the leading Iowa candidates (Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul and Mitt Romney), Paul is the only consistent small-government conservative, and the only one with a plan to balance the budget. Indeed, he’s the only one who has pledged to veto any budget resolution that doesn’t balance by the end of his first term. And in the current environment, that means a lot, even in Iowa.

Inkblots on December 7, 2011 at 9:08 PM

that’s why i keep promoting the “sarah earthquake” movement so much. WE NEED A NEW CHOICE IN THIS FIELD. she fits the description of “full spectrum conservative who can launch themselves with their own fuel.” we have nothing to lose by asking her to reconsider so we might as well do it.

Sachiko on December 7, 2011 at 8:53 PM

I’m afraid it’s too late. She couldn’t get onto the primary ballot in many states at this point. She would need to run a write-in campaign, and that’s just not happening.

Inkblots on December 7, 2011 at 9:09 PM

Sachiko on December 7, 2011 at 8:53 PM

I see you’re a very devoted Palinista! If I thought it still made sense for her to join in, I would be too, but as awesome as it would have been if she were in the race, I moved on after she said no. I was devastated by her decision, though. I’m only very reluctantly supporting Gingrich. For Palin to join now would be Chaotic.

vegconservative on December 7, 2011 at 9:11 PM

I was devastated by her decision, though.
vegconservative on December 7, 2011 at 9:11 PM

Same here, but unless there is some sort of brokered convention situation, which would be pretty chaotic, as you said, it ain’t gonna happen.
*sniff*

I’m now starting to wonder just how much campaigning she’ll do if she’s not really behind the nominee.

predator on December 7, 2011 at 9:15 PM

I’m only very reluctantly supporting Gingrich. For Palin to join now would be Chaotic.

vegconservative on December 7, 2011 at 9:11 PM

I still fail to see how Gingrich can possibly be considered the “conservative” alternative to Romney. He’s been on both sides of essentially every issue that Romney has flip-flopped on, and some others besides.

Gingrich said he would have voted for the TARP bailouts, he supported cap and trade, he supported an Obamacare-style Federal individual mandate to buy health insurance, he supports green energy projects (like Solyndra) and farm-subsidies, he called the Ryan plan “right-wing social engineering” and casually used Medi-scaring tactics – and all that is just in the past 4 years. If you go back further, you’ll see he also supported the Fairness Doctrine and the creation of the Federal Department of Education!

Inkblots on December 7, 2011 at 9:19 PM

With all due respect to Rep. King but how are we defining a “full spectrum conservative?”

Perhaps that’s where are problem is, we havent defined what we want. I thought we were looking for someone with executive experiance (Perry, Gingrich, Romney) that would repeal Obamacare (Gingrich and Perry) that would turn the economy around (All of the Above).

If we’re talking a good, steady conservative he should be endorsing Perry.

Conger on December 7, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Speaking of “Sarah Earthquake,” she just called O!bama a phony on Hannity.

predator on December 7, 2011 at 9:07 PM

She called him more than that…LOL

idesign on December 7, 2011 at 9:20 PM

Romney, Not-Romney… I don’t care. I will vote for Ham Sandwich if it’s on the ballot. Anyone, anyone but Obama.

The Chewbacca Defense on December 7, 2011 at 9:23 PM

The trolls are going to hit you….LOL

idesign on December 7, 2011 at 9:00 PM

no, they’re going to hit YOU. *hides behind you*

She’s my first choice but unless she does run I’m with Newt.

tinkerthinker on December 7, 2011 at 9:01 PM

yeah and it looks like newt’s going to win iowa anyway. i think this is a newt/mitt race unless someone else jumps in.

“A candidate has to have their own fuel…to lift themselves off the launching pad.”

Rick Perry has hot gas! That’s a fuel!
/

Speaking of “Sarah Earthquake,” she just called O!bama a phony on Hannity.

predator on December 7, 2011 at 9:07 PM

ahaha =)

oh yeah i saw that! she is the best at criticizing obama. direct hits, no political correctness or sugarcoating. awesome.
that interview went by fast- good thing there is a half hour interview with eric bolling at 10!!

Inkblots on December 7, 2011 at 9:08 PM

i think paul will do pretty well in iowa but i’m not sure if he can beat newt. we’ll see!!

I’m afraid it’s too late. She couldn’t get onto the primary ballot in many states at this point. She would need to run a write-in campaign, and that’s just not happening.

Inkblots on December 7, 2011 at 9:09 PM

if dumb old lisa murkowski can do it, anyone can. lol. =)

I see you’re a very devoted Palinista! If I thought it still made sense for her to join in, I would be too, but as awesome as it would have been if she were in the race, I moved on after she said no. I was devastated by her decision, though. I’m only very reluctantly supporting Gingrich. For Palin to join now would be Chaotic.

vegconservative on December 7, 2011 at 9:11 PM

i can’t stop talking about her >___< i know it's a long-shot but you know, sometimes the unexpected happens. especially with sarah palin- expect the unexpected. maybe we need a little chaos in this lackluster field.

okay, i'm not going to be in this thread anymore, have other things to do. done enough palin spamming for one day. bye! XD

Sachiko on December 7, 2011 at 9:26 PM

achiko on December 7, 2011 at 9:26 PM

Night..:)

idesign on December 7, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Inkblots on December 7, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Okay sure, Gingrich isn’t a great conservative. BUT he has balanced four federal budgets, reformed two entitlements in a conservative manner, and did so with a Democrat in the White House. We aren’t looking for a conservative alternative, we’re looking for someone who will FIGHT for conservative ideals even when compromising, and Romney (I say as an MA voter who left that hellhole to go to school in Texas) seems to think that compromise means selling out. Gingrich doesn’t seem to have that tendency.

If Ron Paul wins Iowa, expect all hell to break loose. I wouldn’t be surprised if the primary system was rejected after an event like that, in favor of the brokered conventions of pre-1968.

vegconservative on December 7, 2011 at 9:41 PM

Speaking of “Sarah Earthquake,” she just called O!bama a phony on Hannity.

predator on December 7, 2011 at 9:07 PM

And that, my friends, shows exactly why Sarah has no political power any more.

Jugears is anything but a phony. He is doing exactly what he said he would do, which is why Rush said he hopes he fails.

Ever since Sarah said she valued her family over the country (contrary to the message she was sending earlier), her speeches and interviews have been cut-and-paste or just plain replays. The passion is completely gone because she now realizes just what an enormous error she made by not getting in.

All Sarah can do now is coast downhill in neutral – she is out of gas. And every point that Newt rises in the polls is like a dart in her heart. She has no one to blame but herself.

platypus on December 7, 2011 at 9:43 PM

If Ron Paul wins Iowa, expect all hell to break loose. I wouldn’t be surprised if the primary system was rejected after an event like that, in favor of the brokered conventions of pre-1968.

vegconservative on December 7, 2011 at 9:41 PM

Not going to happen. Iowans do not hate Israel enough to choose Paul.

platypus on December 7, 2011 at 9:45 PM

Ever since Sarah said she valued her family over the country (contrary to the message she was sending earlier), her speeches and interviews have been cut-and-paste or just plain replays. The passion is completely gone because she now realizes just what an enormous error she made by not getting in.

All Sarah can do now is coast downhill in neutral – she is out of gas. And every point that Newt rises in the polls is like a dart in her heart. She has no one to blame but herself.

platypus on December 7, 2011 at 9:43 PM

The moron’s back…

idesign on December 7, 2011 at 9:56 PM

There isn’t really enough time for another not Romney to emerge before Iowa.
vegconservative on December 7, 2011 at 8:34 PM

HUM-BUG!

Can’t agree with those of us here who believe this, and that’s at least half of us.

I’m not conceding this to be a Newt/Mitt contest, YET.

listens2glenn on December 7, 2011 at 9:59 PM

The moron’s back…

idesign on December 7, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Do you know how dumb it is to violate ToS on Open Registration Day?

More to the point, what part of my comment is wrong?

platypus on December 7, 2011 at 10:01 PM

platypus on December 7, 2011 at 10:01 PM

What! LOL

idesign on December 7, 2011 at 10:05 PM

Yeah, we all know who Rep. Steve King is talking about, don’t we?
You betcha!

Mirimichi on December 7, 2011 at 10:45 PM

“Conservative” Newt is conservative in the same sense as Athlete’s Foot is athletic.

Igor R. on December 7, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Lifelong friends who live in his district tell me that King himself is not always The Toast of Storm Lake.

Mr. Grump on December 8, 2011 at 7:05 AM

Hmm, just had a thought. If Gingrich gets the nod and wins, hopefully this cycle will help end the choke hold that NH and IA have on the national political front.

Nathan_OH on December 8, 2011 at 9:09 AM

Write in SP’s name and you’ll feel better.

Kissmygrits on December 8, 2011 at 9:11 AM

Only Palin fits the bill.

Anyone else, and we get 4 more years of ‘O’…

ChuckTX on December 8, 2011 at 10:00 AM