Gingrich takes wide leads in NC, CO in PPP polls
posted at 11:30 am on December 7, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
The Newt Gingrich surge has broken out of the early primary states, according to Democratic pollster PPP. The former Speaker now has a 37-point lead over Mitt Romney in North Carolina, a state that broke for Barack Obama in 2008, and now leads in Colorado after having only had 9% of the vote in the last survey in the series:
Newt Gingrich’s momentum in the Republican Presidential race is continuing to build: PPP finds him with large leads in both North Carolina and Colorado. It’s also looking more and more like the GOP contest is down to a two man race, as Gingrich and Mitt Romney are the only candidates in double digits in either of those states.
In North Carolina Gingrich is at 51% to 14% for Romney, 8% for Michele Bachmann, 7% for Ron Paul, 4% for Rick Perry, 3% for Rick Santorum, 1% for Jon Huntsman, and 0% for Gary Johnson.
In Colorado Gingrich is at 37% to 18% for Romney, 9% for Bachmann, 6% for Paul, 4% for Perry and Santorum, 3% for Huntsman, and 1% for Johnson.
5 weeks ago Gingrich was at 22% in North Carolina, so he’s gained 29 points since then. In August Gingrich was at 9% in Colorado, so he’s gained 28 points since our last poll there.
Not surprisingly, considering those numbers, Gingrich now leads in practically every demographic:
Gingrich’s wide leads are a reflection of the fact that he’s basically winning every group of Republican voters now. For instance he’s very strong with the Tea Party, leading Romney 53-10 in NC (with Bachmann at 13%) and leading Romney 42-9 in CO (with Bachmann at 17%) with those voters. But he’s winning over moderate voters within the party as well, leading Romney 38-21 with them in North Carolina and 26-22 with them in Colorado. Gingrich’s appeal right now is very broad within the Republican electorate.
These polls provide more evidence of a Romney fade. He’s down 5 points from 19% a month ago in North Carolina and his net favorability has dropped from +23 (53/30) to +16 (50/34). It’s a similar story in Colorado. He’s down 4 points from his 22% standing when we last polled there in August, although there at least his favorability numbers have remained unchanged.
PPP sees a bit of a renaissance in Michele Bachmann’s Iowa numbers, not the first pollster to do so. Gingrich’s rise may be fueled in large part by Tea Party dissatisfaction with Romney and the decline of Herman Cain, but Gingrich is not a checkbox conservative. The race really only has two such candidates with whom the Tea Party activists and adherents can feel comfortable — Bachmann and Rick Santorum, with possibly Rick Perry as an option as well. It’s very possible that Gingrich’s rise will leave a little room to the right for one of these candidates to grab back some of Gingrich’s surge, especially if Gingrich doesn’t raise enough money to organize effectively.
However, as PPP also points out, Gingrich’s support in these two states is remarkably soft, with just over a third firmly committed to him. The second choice for these voters? Romney, which underscores how closely they may end up aligning in the end with primary voters, and why there may still be room for another boomlet in this race.
The Gingrich surge has surprised a lot of people, and according to Politico, that includes the strategists in Team Obama:
President Obama’s advisers, long convinced that Romney would be their opponent, now think Obama has a realistic chance of facing Gingrich, and are frantically rewriting a playbook that has been three years in the making. The campaign hadn’t even put together a comprehensive opposition research folder on Gingrich, in part because they expected Romney as the nominee but also because of the assumption that his record was so well-known.
The advisers, especially David Axelrod — who has led the campaign’s frontal assault on Romney — are finally coming around to the possibility that Gingrich might actually be the GOP nominee.
A few weeks ago, this might have delighted Democratic strategists, but now that they see the phenomenon unfolding, they may not be as sanguine about running against Gingrich:
But there’s also a wary recognition that Gingrich may be catching a wave that is both powerful and unpredictable.
They worry that Gingrich would be an erratic opponent, and therefore harder to handle than the relatively predictable Romney. Running against him may prove more difficult than it looks at first blush.
“It would be a nastier, more intense campaign,” said the Democrat close to the White House. “Newt has a history of getting people to rise to his bait. The president would have to stay mellow, steady Eddie.”
Unfortunately, the White House has already jumped feet first into a class-warfare strategy intended to paint Romney as a rich fat cat, and have begun their own nasty campaign that presumed Romney to be the nominee. The ‘steady Eddie’ strategy got tossed out in September in favor of the populist activist. Walking that back would mean once again having to change their messaging, which would look clumsy indeed. Perhaps they should have waited for the first votes to get cast before launching their campaign strategy — and maybe this President should have focused on his job rather than his next campaign as a re-election strategy anyway.









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Newt is a rugged socialist individualist.
Igor R. on December 7, 2011 at 12:36 PM
csdeven on December 7, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Keep dreaming. It’ll turn out like it did for Obama.
He and media were dead sure that it’ll be Rommey…heh.
Schadenfreude on December 7, 2011 at 12:39 PM
Maybe all these votrs see Newt as a poor substitute for Christie’s blunt style?
jeanie on December 7, 2011 at 12:40 PM
I don’t believe in a more sober line of attack. I believe in calling a spade a spade. You can call Newt a frugal socialist or you can call him a Teddy Roosevelt progressive or you can call him a smooth self-serving liar who uses patriotic rhetoric and fact dropping as a justification for his anti-Constitutional impulses. What you CAN’T call him is a conservative.
And Obama? A communist with cultural muslim sympathies will do.
Igor R. on December 7, 2011 at 12:42 PM
I think Newt is on his 13th minute. I see his campaign imploding (again).
physicalism on December 7, 2011 at 12:43 PM
Once again SmartPower has been successful for our president. wait…..
TheOarsman on December 7, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Like I said, “MOST”.
esnap on December 7, 2011 at 12:50 PM
I really, really want to like and vote for Perry. Would kill to see Newtie go head to head in a debate with O’blah-blah. BUT, I will have to vote for whoever the nominee is… yes, even if it means voting for Maruice Huntsman… or whoever that George Johnson guy is..
Quite simply CANNOT suffer through another 4 years of Commie in Chief ~ listening to his voice really makes me want to jab a letter opener in my ears.
czarcasm on December 7, 2011 at 12:52 PM
I’m as proud to be a conservative as anyone else, but this hopping from one great hope to the next (Bachman to Perry to Cain to Newt) is embarrassing. Romney is the best candidate to do what the real objective is- defeat Obama.
Wags on December 7, 2011 at 12:53 PM
I’m not sure that the Dems are scared of anyone. I think that they believe that Obama is inevitable since they own the press and can pull the race card every other minute. How can you be scared if you are willing to run Obama again with his record domestically and internationally? It’s like they don’t live on the same planet.
Cindy Munford on December 7, 2011 at 12:53 PM
Perry is going to spend $1 million on ads in Iowa. That hurts Gingrich and helps Romney.
csdeven on December 7, 2011 at 12:54 PM
question — if Newt does implode, who do you think will benefit and why?
czarcasm on December 7, 2011 at 12:56 PM
First off, I’m excited to become part of this community. I have enjoyed reading the comments for quite a while now.
I have been saying for over a year now that this class warfare nonsense has been to set up Romney. This White House has laid the ground work for years. Romney will lose.
Newt, while not a perfect conservative, has done as much as anyone in the last 20 years to advance conservatism legislatively. He isn’t afraid to get his hands dirty and engage in a tough fight. Mitt is so afraid of his shadow that he has been engaged in meetings for two weeks to figure out a strategy to counter Gingrich. This says as much about him as I need to know.
h a p f a t on December 7, 2011 at 12:56 PM
I just want to see Newt eat Obama alive at the debates….and I mean literally eat him, because he is big enuff, four bites -max, like a great white shark on a harp seal.
Alden Pyle on December 7, 2011 at 12:57 PM
I’ll make one observation in the Mitt v. Newt battle. Mitt reminds me too much of John McCain. They were both brought up in prominant families to believe that the Presidency is their birthright. I want a fighter who not only is out there working to get elected but also is under no illusions that winning the nomination is an entitlement of privilege.
Plus, the Dems are drooling at the ability to engage in class warfare against Romney (ignoring the fact that idiots like John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi are just as much one percenters as Mitt). Newt is a curve ball. Yes, Newt has baggage but the minute the Dems throw out the Freddie Mac connection, Newt can easily counter that it was Dodd and Frank that were the architects of the housing crisis that led to the Great Obama depression.
Happy Nomad on December 7, 2011 at 12:58 PM
csdeven on December 7, 2011 at 12:54 PM
I’m not so sure the voters of Iowa or anywhere else are all that fickle. Yes they have their preferances but when it comes time to vote for real in November 2012, they will vote for whichever nominee hasn’t spent the last four years experimenting in the kind of socialism taught in America’s leftist universities.
One of the most endearing images of the Obama administration is the look on Christine Romer’s face when it finally dawned on this dim bulb that the socialistic theory she has taught at Berkeley for decades does not work in the real world.
Happy Nomad on December 7, 2011 at 1:03 PM
I don’t think they are fickle. The polling shows 60% are opened to changing their mind. I think advertising helps that. Especially for Perry because he comes off very likable in his ads.
csdeven on December 7, 2011 at 1:10 PM
+1 (and the idiot GOP didn’t learn a single thing from the last presidential election and wants to do it again….) They never learn not to give an inch to liberals because it’s a complete one way street.
glidingone on December 7, 2011 at 1:11 PM
New thread from Ed.
hahaha. I rhymed.
csdeven on December 7, 2011 at 1:14 PM
Excellent question. I haven’t a clue but if it isn’t Gov. Romney, than his problems are more serious than his supports can imagine.
Cindy Munford on December 7, 2011 at 1:18 PM
President Gingrich. Sounds good to me.
tinkerthinker on December 7, 2011 at 1:23 PM
I hope that, along with the 60% of Iowans, we all can keep open minds. We should all be hoping to find our best candidate. We’ll need an all-for-one effort!
sleepingiantsup on December 7, 2011 at 1:25 PM
I think there is a large segment of Republicans that will be satisfied with getting rid of The Won, actually liking our nominee might be a bridge too far.
Cindy Munford on December 7, 2011 at 1:29 PM
I agree. And that’s good enough for me!
sleepingiantsup on December 7, 2011 at 1:33 PM
I admit to a salivation manifestation when I think about a debate between Gingrich and President Obama. But I submit that while lack of debating skills may be enough to disqualify a candidate, mastery of the debate should not be enough to coronate one.
Up until this point I have had a (reflexive, I think) affinity for Newt, but then kept reading things like David Bernstein’s interesting 12/06/11 blurb in Volokh Conspiracy (digest@Volokh.com), which I recommend. If Newt not only presents a great, big bullseye for Team Obama’s target practice, but also represents his own brand of “big govenrment conservatism,” someone please remind me exactly what we are doing, here.
IndyinVirginny on December 7, 2011 at 1:41 PM
While getting rid of “The Won” should be Priority One, I think we must like the nominee as well. Gingrich is an arrogant academic with some conservative ideals. I think his presidency would ultimately harm the party.
OhmsLaw on December 7, 2011 at 1:47 PM
O/T Blago — 14yrs in jail!! (:
czarcasm on December 7, 2011 at 1:51 PM
In NC they like CONSERVATIVE candidates.. you know like this kind:
source
popularpeoplesfront on December 7, 2011 at 1:55 PM
Also, NC is totally irrelevant. The people there pay zero attention to the Presidential primary since they don’t vote until MAY. The nominee is crowned long before they vote. So the primary polls out of NC are almost always just a reflection of who the media is talking about the most and they have nothing to do with which candidates would best represent the voters.
popularpeoplesfront on December 7, 2011 at 2:00 PM
Poor John Vliet Huntsman
Jake_W on December 7, 2011 at 2:10 PM
Team Obama scrambling to pop the champagne. Please put this clown up against him. Thanks!
Constantine on December 7, 2011 at 2:47 PM
Hey, I got a mention on HotAir!
;)
mankai on December 7, 2011 at 2:53 PM
Damn liberal. Shocking that Reagan won the NC primary, beating a sitting, ultraconservative President [Ford].
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mankai on December 7, 2011 at 3:00 PM
I cant believe that two of the least conservative candidates out of that large field are ahead. Even Huntsman is right of those two…what happened to the Tea Party?
gglazner on December 7, 2011 at 3:38 PM
Frontal assault on Romney? What frontal assault on Romney? Anybody else see the Dems conducting a frontal assault on Romney? Bachman, Perry, Cain, now Newt, yeah, they’ve been conducting full frontal assaults on them, both the Dems and the establishment Republicans. But Romney? Nothing but pure softball.
AZfederalist on December 7, 2011 at 4:48 PM
I just know Newt loves Cheesy Poofs.
pc on December 7, 2011 at 8:09 PM
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