Report: Iran’s Revolutionary Guard now on “war footing”
posted at 9:29 pm on December 5, 2011 by Allahpundit
Message: Who knows what might happen if there’s another unexplained explosion at a top military facility.
Recent explosions have added to the growing sense of paranoia within Iran, with the regime fearing it will be the target of a surprise military strike by Israel or the US…
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s spiritual leader, issued a directive to the heads of all the country’s military, intelligence and security organisations to take all necessary measures to protect the regime.
Gen Jaafari responded to this directive by ordering Revolutionary Guards units to redistribute Iran’s arsenal of long-range Shahab missiles to secret sites around the country where they would be safe from enemy attack and could be used to launch retaliatory attacks.
In addition, the Iranian air force has formed a number of “rapid reaction units”, which have been carrying out extensive exercises to practice a response to an enemy air attack.
I’m in the unusual position here of wondering if, for once, their paranoia is justified. If you missed the NYT story in Headlines this morning about that mysterious boom at an Iranian missile base a few weeks ago, read it now. So massive was the explosion, allegedly, that “the base was almost completely leveled in the blast.” And these weren’t just any missiles: They were solid-fuel.
Missiles powered by solid fuels rather than liquids have no need for trucks to fill them with volatile fluids, and can be fired on short notice, making them hard for other nations to destroy before they are launched. That would add to Iran’s ability to protect its nuclear sites from an Israeli strike — a subject of renewed debate in Israel in recent weeks — because Iran could threaten to retaliate before many of its missiles were struck. Solid-fuel missiles are also easier to hide. For those reasons, modern militaries rely on solid fuels for their deadliest missiles.
In other words, this is just the sort of thing you’d want to snuff before launching an attack. Coincidentally, the other mysterious explosion in Iran recently — in Isfahan, near one of their nuclear facilities — also allegedly hit the bullseye by damaging a storage unit of the uranium conversion plant there. Israeli intel officials told the Times of London that blast was no accident; U.S. officials told the NYT that the other blast at the missile base probably was an accident, caused by Iran’s mishandling of the solid-fuel components. On the one hand, it’s hard to believe the U.S. or Israel could sneak a bomb into the base so huge that it managed to level the entire compound. On the other hand, c’mon. An accident, at a top missile facility, just as tensions are peaking? Nobody gets that lucky.
The other cause for justifiable Iranian paranoia is the fact that one of our most secret drones was either shot down or crashed there near the border with Afghanistan. And yes, it is a fact, not propaganda: Senior U.S. officials and military officials confirm that the drone’s in Iranian hands. This isn’t an attack model but a surveillance model, one so stealthy that the White House used it to watch Bin Laden’s compound deep inside Pakistan and unbeknownst to ISI. The bad news is, China’s own drone program should get a quickie boost once Iran starts sharing technological secrets gleaned from the crashed model. The good news is, according to Danger Room, the drone is already outdated thanks to “systems now moving into an operational role [that] are scores of times more effective than the [RQ-170] Sentinel’s full-motion video.” Not an intel coup, in other words, but its mere presence over Iran is one more reason for them to be on edge.









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They’re just a little country anyway.
darwin-t on December 5, 2011 at 9:32 PM
They’re on a war footing are they? Okay, let the nukes fly!
AcronisF on December 5, 2011 at 9:33 PM
Nothing like another good ole war to get the GOPers back on the same page.
Notorious GOP on December 5, 2011 at 9:38 PM
Let’s put an end to the insanity of allowing this regime to continue spreading terror. The head of the snake, so cut it off.
They shoot down a drone, send in the B2′s.
Hening on December 5, 2011 at 9:39 PM
A few bunker busters, a couple of those large oxygen guzzling fuel-air bombs for the revolting guard, and that should discourage them.
ultracon on December 5, 2011 at 9:40 PM
Let them get weary of being on a war footing.
Meanwhile, send jets at high altitude to the Iranian border, then turn away before crossing the line. This will exercise the AA defenses and burn them out. Plus Id their electronic OOB.
Once this is routine, strike at the electrical distribution and generation centers.
No nukes needed. A country without electrical power is a 9th century threat.
NaCly dog on December 5, 2011 at 9:42 PM
Time to stock pile gas?
Patricksp on December 5, 2011 at 9:42 PM
You are right and that would end their nuclear program as well, but they won’t act until its too late.
sharrukin on December 5, 2011 at 9:44 PM
The blast at the missile base doesn’t surprise me. If they were also mixing components, that kind of thing was eventually going to happen. We have those kinds of accidents periodically despite overwhelming caution and extensive safety procedures. In Iran, you are dealing with islamic fundamentalist zealots who, while they may possess advanced science degrees from Western universities, still have that culture of “inshallah” built into their DNA. Yeah, procedures are there and probably sort of followed, if they aren’t followed exactly, “inshalla”. inshallah, “boom!”
AZfederalist on December 5, 2011 at 9:48 PM
..we pull out of Iraq and Aqua-Velva-Jhad pulls in. It’s chilling how prescient Tom Clancy was. Now, if only we could find a JAL pilot willing to drive his 747 into our capital building during a joint session of congress.
The War Planner on December 5, 2011 at 9:48 PM
In Iran’s case, I’d say it is more like, “A country without electrical power that will become even more a 9′th century threat than it already is”. However, look at all the damage those 9′th century threats did to civilization.
AZfederalist on December 5, 2011 at 9:51 PM
Conversely, they’re taking a cue from North Korea. One reliable way for a dictatorship to stabilize itself internally is to ramp up for war and focus on an external enemy. AllahP is right, it just may be justified considering the drone, the explosions, Israel’s positions and so forth. Will Iran also start acting like NK and threaten to do something else until someone gives it some candy?? Are we seeing brinkmanship by the Iranians? Where’s the kid in the hole in the ground???
ted c on December 5, 2011 at 9:54 PM
Experts say explosion at Iranian base was major setback to nation’s missile-testing program – nytimes
22 Hrs.ago
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Meanwhile…………………………….
Syria test-fires Scud B missiles, Israeli sources say – Jerusalem Post
Dec 3 2011
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http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?ID=248110&R=R1
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http://www.breakingnews.com/
canopfor on December 5, 2011 at 9:56 PM
Famous last words…
JohnGalt23 on December 5, 2011 at 9:57 PM
The War Planner: 9/11 already validated Clancy’s vision of the future.
Scopper on December 5, 2011 at 9:57 PM
here we go–how does it play out? Iranians sink a ship in the Gulf? Israel drops ‘em like their hot? An aircraft gets shot down in the med? Another diplomatic emergency? Itchy trigger fingers….?
tensions are high, sphincters are puckering…Ah well. There will be wars and rumors of wars.
ted c on December 5, 2011 at 9:58 PM
Mahmood Kafri
Nuclear Techician
Iran
Dear Mahmoud,
Sorry to hear about all the accidents happening over there. That’s a real bummer.
Hey, how are y’all sleeping? You know, when you’re working with dangerous materials, it’s very important that you get a good night’s sleep.
I’d hate to think that you boys are all lying awake at night wondering if some accident or something is about to happen. That might make you sloppy during your working hours and, well, you know what happens when you’re all sleep deprived and sloppy in your work.
Night night, sleep tight.
Your friend, the Great Satan
justltl on December 5, 2011 at 10:01 PM
Pray he stays ‘hidden’.
If the Twelvers trot ‘somebody’ out as the new ‘perfect imam’…
Then things will start to get ‘interesting’, in a very bad way.
CPT. Charles on December 5, 2011 at 10:01 PM
What’s with the photo of Ahmadaboutjihad? Does he smell sulphur?
onlineanalyst on December 5, 2011 at 10:02 PM
Here’s what a solid rocket fuel explosion can do:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc_nnnBmMbM
crosspatch on December 5, 2011 at 10:03 PM
Are we at Code Pink yet?
No, probably aren’t and probably won’t be.
Rove, you magnificent bastard…
Bruno Strozek on December 5, 2011 at 10:04 PM
If the Iranians start large-scale movement of bulky weapons, wouldn’t it be easy to track where they end up?
OldEnglish on December 5, 2011 at 10:06 PM
Monday, November 28, 2011
Forecasting the Future of Iran
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Velayat‐e faqih!
As best understood – getting all psychic l’futur diplopolititary cuts both ways (Oh, you know it is so – ouch! LOL).
Anywrought – czech out RAND”s hot! pdf thingy thinking out loud about Future Persia and Massive Implicating Implications For Great Satan”s Strategy and Policy
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Forecasting the Future of Iran
Implications for U.S. Strategy and Policy
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http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/rgs_dissertations/2011/RAND_RGSD290.pdf
Diplomatic relations betwixt Great Satan and Iran have been, like, froze up frozen since the 1979 Revolution. The current overlaps in Great Satan and Iranian interests make the ongoing bilateral impasse ripe for reassessment, but while the potential to advance relations exists, progress will be measured by the development of several key political, economic, civil society, foreign policy, and national security issues in Iran.
This study employs an expected utility model to predict how Iranian policy is developing on several of these key issues and explores Great Satan strategy and policy options for influencing their development.
(More……)
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http://greatsatansgirlfriend.blogspot.com/2011/11/forecasting-future-of-iran.html
canopfor on December 5, 2011 at 10:06 PM
Now you all just gotta calm down, no need for all this hysteria and fear mongering. We don’t want to peak too soon, after all, October is months away yet.
No need to get into a big yank just yet.
Skandia Recluse on December 5, 2011 at 10:07 PM
GOOD!
Lets get it over with and make up for 1979 and
Sadly. the freedom wising kids and families in Iran will never be supported by our idiotic foreign policy.
amend2 on December 5, 2011 at 10:07 PM
If the Iranians start large-scale movement of bulky weapons, wouldn’t it be easy to track where they end up?
OldEnglish on December 5, 2011 at 10:06 PM
OldEnglish:Ya would think so,but,so far,the Hopey/Changey has
ahem,F’d Up,every thing that is Foreign Policy,and
US National Sercurity concerned!!–:)
canopfor on December 5, 2011 at 10:08 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scud#Scud_hunting
While patrolling, strike aircraft managed to sight their targets on 42 occasions, they were only able to acquire them long enough to release their ordnance three times.[27] In addition, the Iraqi missile units dispersed their Scud TELs and hid them in culverts, wadis, or under highway bridges. They also practiced “shoot-and-scoot” tactics, withdrawing the launcher to a hidden location immediately after it had fired, while the launch sequence that usually took 90 minutes was reduced to half an hour. This enabled them to preserve their forces, despite optimistic claims by the coalition. A post-war Pentagon study concluded that relatively few launchers had been destroyed by coalition aircraft.[27]
The mobility of Scud TELs allowed for a choice of firing position and increased the survivability of the weapon system to such an extent that, of the approximately 100 launchers claimed destroyed by coalition pilots and special forces in the Gulf War, not a single destruction could be confirmed afterwards. After the war, UNSCOM investigations showed that Iraq still had 12 MAZ-543 vehicles, as well as seven Al-Waleed and Al-Nidal launchers, and 62 complete Al-Hussein missiles.
sharrukin on December 5, 2011 at 10:12 PM
Satellite Image Confirms Iranian Missile Base Was Destroyed
11/28/2011 14:53
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Before and after Satellite Images
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/satellite-image-confirms-iranian-missile-base-was-destroyed
canopfor on December 5, 2011 at 10:14 PM
Can’t you just imagine a roomful of Iranian “engineers” looking at the felled drone and scratching their heads?
John the Libertarian on December 5, 2011 at 10:15 PM
You are assuming the thing is reasonably intact, which it probably isn’t.
InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on December 5, 2011 at 10:15 PM
Note to Revolutionary Guard ………
When you hear the penetrating sound of an F-22 Raptor overhead, it’s already too late.
fogw on December 5, 2011 at 10:17 PM
If the Iranians aren’t stopped the upcoming mid-east nuclear arms race will not be pretty.
That said, I really doubt that the Israelis or the CIA are doing all this damage to Iranian bases. I agree with the folks giving credit to internal opposition forces (with a possible assist here and there). If the CIA were this capable Afghanistan wouldn’t be such a mess and the Israelis are too busy killing Iranian nuclear scientists.
Dawnsblood on December 5, 2011 at 10:21 PM
…and Russia’s…
Schadenfreude on December 5, 2011 at 10:21 PM
I’d like to know why the drone aircraft was not equipped with a self-destruct module, timed to go off once it lost contact with its controllers.
Re war with Iran, be careful what you wish for. Imagine this scenario:
October 1, 2012: “The United States has launched missile attacks against Iranian military and oil facilities.”
“Iran responding by attacking all shipping in the Gulf.”
“President Obama to address the nation at 8 PM. Key Congressional Democrats warn against changing horses in mid-stream.”
Rally round the flag, boys. It’s all over but the shouting.
MrLynn on December 5, 2011 at 10:22 PM
Iran easily has the worst neighbours of any country on the planet.
Afghanistan: weak but also unstable and a former training ground for terrorists.
Pakistan: volatile, unstable and nuclear armed. Well deserved reputation for exporting ideologically motivated violence.
Iraq: volatile, unstable, wanted to be nuclear armed. Attacked Iran in the 1980s.
Former Soviet states: not wholly stable and, in the days of the USSR, were nuclear armed. Russia was one of the players in the “Great Game“.
Saudi Arabia. Iran’s #1 ideological foe, known for funding terrorists.
With neighbours like these, I find it easy to understand that Iran might want nuclear weapons, and also that Iran needs to talk up the ‘conflicts’ with the UK, Israel and USA to justify such weapons because it needs to deflect the concerns of its neighbours. Any ‘solution’ has to recognise that Iran has some major legitimate concerns.
YiZhangZhe on December 5, 2011 at 10:22 PM
Musical dedication,to Persia,
Kraftwerk – Radioactivity
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXD6Gtinvbc
canopfor on December 5, 2011 at 10:24 PM
When Iranian Goons close down,the Straight Of Hormuz,then
the guessing will be over!
canopfor on December 5, 2011 at 10:25 PM
We have systems and weapons available to us now that were not available at that time.
crosspatch on December 5, 2011 at 10:27 PM
The regime tyrants won’t have any concerns if they are dead.
InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on December 5, 2011 at 10:29 PM
And shipping rockets and arms to Lebanon and Gaza address those concerns in what way exactly?
How did the 1994 AMIA bombing address those concerns?
sharrukin on December 5, 2011 at 10:30 PM
Stop Iran’s Mullahs and Support the Iranian People
InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on December 5, 2011 at 10:31 PM
I am sure we do, but its a mistake to assume that we will be able to easily destroy an enemy because it never works out that way. I think we need to deal with Iran but I have no illusions that it will be a cakewalk.
sharrukin on December 5, 2011 at 10:32 PM
Concerns acknowledged.
“Release the Kraken.”
justltl on December 5, 2011 at 10:34 PM
Military News Feeds
http://militarynewsfeeds.com/
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Experts: Iran’s capture of drone not worris
Monday Dec 5, 2011 17:00:23 EST
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http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2011/12/ap-air-force-experts-iran-capture-of-drone-not-worrisome-120511/
canopfor on December 5, 2011 at 10:37 PM
I’m sure they are well aware of this fact, and that this is exactly why they would want nuclear weapons … because once they have them, their chances of suddenly becoming dead against their wishes will reduce.
YiZhangZhe on December 5, 2011 at 10:39 PM
Umm, no, no I can’t. Iranian engineers are not stupid. They employed some pretty sophisticated techniques during the Iran/Iraq war and are quite capable as far as engineering analysis goes. They aren’t very good at process or repeatability, but they do have good math, science, and engineering skills. I went to college with Iranians, and while they were not to swift in labs, they were quite intelligent in academics.
Of course, they will also bring in the Chinese and Russians to analyze their find. That is not going to turn out well. Especially when you couple that with what was lost with the special ops helicopter left behind in the Bin Laden engagement.
AZfederalist on December 5, 2011 at 10:40 PM
In fact, if so tasked, ST6 and JSOC could get whatever munition we wanted inside Iran and place it precisely where it could blow the leadership there into oblivion. If so tasked. It’s a question, really, of what this president is willing to do. Which I predict is nothing, where and when it really counts. He has already turned Egypt and Libya over to the radical Islamists and refuses to take out Iran’s main proxy against Israel, Assad in Syria. His giving the go on Bin Laden’s take out was window dressing. The elimination of the Iranian leadership would solve the problem in a nanosecond, but that’s not a goal of this president.
The 12th Imam who, according to the religion of peace and its Qur’an, is to come to turn the world into an Islamic Caliphate, is here, I’m sorry to say. You can find him, when not on vacation, at 1600.
TXUS on December 5, 2011 at 10:41 PM
Well played, sir.
John the Libertarian on December 5, 2011 at 10:42 PM
Guess they never heard of Plausible deniability with the drone. If they did not have an ineptocrats in every level of this regime when they say we shot down anything you say. Drone what drone we have no drones that are missing all are save and accounted for. Call BS on their claim, not say that anything was missing or that they have it.
It will come a time when the world and reactions to it make one truly know it is time to learn how to cook drywall for something to eat. As the leaders will get millions killed and then blame the people who wanted to stop them before the launch are in charge with nothing even after they are dead will change that.
tjexcite on December 5, 2011 at 10:44 PM
Well, it was my weak attempt at humor. But if I were to take this seriously, they may be able to reverse-engineer some components, but the integrated circuitry alone would baffle them. They don’t have the industry for custom made ICs, and they would spend years under the microscope to figure out the pathways alone. Then the immense effort to try and duplicate them? Not possible. Then where do they get access to the satellite network to navigate them?
John the Libertarian on December 5, 2011 at 10:46 PM
Cool.
Long video, but worth watching.
listens2glenn on December 5, 2011 at 10:48 PM
How does anybody know that these Iranian bases aren’t being blasted from space or high-flying aircraft with some secret, advanced weapons?
Igor R. on December 5, 2011 at 10:48 PM
Mysterious blasts, slayings suggest covert efforts in Iran
BallisticBob on December 5, 2011 at 10:53 PM
James Bond.
djaymick on December 5, 2011 at 10:55 PM
It’s hard to believe that Israel has not been engaged in some massive, secret project to deal with the Iranian threat for at least ten years, that would be highly irresponsible. I never believed in a standard aerial attack on every Iranian nuclear site. THAT would be just stupid. I think we are seeing the results of the Israeli project whatever it was/is.
Igor R. on December 5, 2011 at 10:58 PM
Possibly there is no connection. In any case, the first question is not “Is Iran dealing with its concerns in a rational manner?” but “Does Iran have legitimate concerns?” The answer to this second question is undoubtedly “yes”. Iran has the Neighbours From Hell, and their paranoia is not entirely unjustified.
However, possibly there is a connection. Iran needs a “safe” enemy so that it can justify developing the weapons it needs to defend itself from its real enemies (of which it has several). Israel and the UK are both “safe” enemies in so much that Iran can be sure that even if either of them attack, they will do so in a very limited way, directed at very specific targets.
Iran is, in my view, playing a very clever game, playing it very long term and playing it fairly well. They keep directing attention and blame away from themselves and towards other much disliked countries (mostly the UK and Israel), and by provoking reactions, they have made their conspiracy theories seem plausible. Moreover, by attacking Israel they gain kudos among Sunni Muslims who might otherwise hate the Iranians (Shia) even more than they hate the Jews.
The Iranians have been doing politics for a long time. Given their place in the world, the events of the past 150 years, and the state of the neighbours they presently have, there is some merit in making themselves look like a vicious mad dog.
YiZhangZhe on December 5, 2011 at 11:03 PM
When you have rats in your house, you don’t stop to consider whether they have legitimate concerns. You just deal with the problem.
Igor R. on December 5, 2011 at 11:07 PM
Hmm. . . Kinetic-energy weapons, maybe? Where’s that shuttle-shaped USAF spaceship with the unknown mission? What was it, the X-37 or something?
Somehow I doubt that The Puppet President is capable of authorizing such strikes, but what he doesn’t know won’t hurt him.
MrLynn on December 5, 2011 at 11:07 PM
Iran seems very comfortable in hell.
Or maybe its simply that they are a violent aggressive regime looking to expand their power base and spread their brand of Islam wherever they can?
Seems like a more plausible explanation than some theory that the enemies they attack aren’t really the target, and they are more concerned about the neighbors they shake hands with.
sharrukin on December 5, 2011 at 11:10 PM
The puppet really LIKES Iran, but Israel is capable of more than you may think.
Igor R. on December 5, 2011 at 11:27 PM
Throw weight.
Ward Cleaver on December 5, 2011 at 11:28 PM
Like how much they’ll glow after we’re done with them?
Ward Cleaver on December 5, 2011 at 11:30 PM
Telling the truth gives your side credibility. In a conflict it is necessary to win both the shooting part, and also the war of ideas and words.
Apparently, during WW2 the British news reported defeats and losses as accurately as they were known. Sometimes this involved giving the enemy information that they didn’t already have. This was not carelessness; it was a deliberate strategy with the aim of getting the enemy to trust the British broadcasts more than they trusted those of their own side and, by extension, thus causing the enemy to distrust their own leaders, thereby causing them to be demoralised and doubtful of their cause, and hence less willing to fight for it and die for it.
YiZhangZhe on December 5, 2011 at 11:31 PM
Screw the people, save our fat asses!
GarandFan on December 5, 2011 at 11:45 PM
The two are not mutually exclusive. They certainly need to expand their power-base, because they are presently very vulnerable … and I am sure they know it and feel it.
YiZhangZhe on December 5, 2011 at 11:49 PM
Russia will make a military alliance with Iran and the surrounding Islamic world and attack Israel in the future. See Ezekiel 38 and 39 for details and watch the DVD Epicenter. Most of these nations (which are listed in Ezekiel 38) are already in an alliance with each other. Thanks.
apacalyps on December 5, 2011 at 11:55 PM
Australia announces more sanctions against Iran – Sydney MH
1 Hr.ago
http://www.breakingnews.com/
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Australia adopts more sanctions on Iran
December 6,2011 -1:24PM
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http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/australia-adopts-more-sanctions-on-iran-20111206-1ogf9.html
canopfor on December 5, 2011 at 11:56 PM
I think free neutrons and photons are haram for handling by Muslims.
They will only end up killing Mohammedans to punish their meddling with Allah’s creation.
profitsbeard on December 5, 2011 at 11:56 PM
Kraftwerk – Radioactivity
canopfor on December 5, 2011 at 10:24 PM
Well played, sir.
John the Libertarian on December 5, 2011 at 10:42 PM
John the Libertarian:–:)
canopfor on December 6, 2011 at 12:00 AM
Come on people…we all know that we’re going to give Iran another air hole. They know it too. So…I say..GOD BLESS AMERICA,,,and fook the Islamist Nazis…..it has to end somewhere. And all you “progressive”, pacifist loons….beg them for understanding and forgiveness…especially you who pledge “Gay Dom”….
Pffffffffft…your heads go first in an Islamic…”republic”. So…GO DOWN on the DOWN LO…while you can. Me…I’m hoping their first target is Dearborn ( ya know they hate competition ) or SFO.
Twana on December 6, 2011 at 12:07 AM
This has been going on for quite some time now as we all seem to gather.
Iran has killed numerous troops in Iraq and Afghanistan with IEDs and guerrillas so I imagine justice prevails when they lose strategic military assets and scientists to sabotage.
scotash on December 6, 2011 at 1:18 AM
Why hasn’t 0bama met with Iran without preconditions yet? That visit would solve all these problems.
pedestrian on December 6, 2011 at 1:27 AM
Officials fear CIA drone crash in Iran could give away intelligence secrets – latimes
48 Mins ago.
http://www.breakingnews.com/
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Drone that crashed in Iran may give away U.S. secrets
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The Sentinel drone has cutting-edge stealth and surveillance technology that other nations could exploit. One of the aircraft crashed in Iran, and a U.S. official says it was on a CIA mission.
December 6, 2011
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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-1206-drone-iran-20111206,0,928838.story
canopfor on December 6, 2011 at 1:28 AM
Thank you very much for that info, sharrukin. That shows one that non-military people should not ask military questions.
OldEnglish on December 6, 2011 at 1:33 AM
I disagree with that completely. There really aren’t any stupid questions, just dumb answers. That’s how we all learn.
sharrukin on December 6, 2011 at 1:42 AM
I still have a long row to hoe.
OldEnglish on December 6, 2011 at 2:02 AM
Syria has to fall first.
albill on December 6, 2011 at 6:04 AM
If Obama actually has the guts and foresight to do something military about Iran, I am going to have to start respecting him.
Monkeytoe on December 6, 2011 at 7:35 AM
Has anyone put forward the theory that the drone that crashed was a trojan horse, designed to upload viral programing into Iran’s computers? I know that is unlikely and too clever by half, but how great would that be? They rush to get it, hook it up to some computers to get at it’s top-secret software, unknowingly downloading a dangerous virus into their computers.
Monkeytoe on December 6, 2011 at 7:38 AM
Yes, but by the same token, they did not seem able to use that many scuds. Part of why they didn’t get as many of the weapons systems is likely that they were used relatively infrequently.
Regardless, I think Israel, or even the U.S.’s position should be that if an enemy purposely launches a missile at a population center instead of a military target, retaliation should be 5 times the missiles at an enemy population center. It makes no sense to continue playing by the “rules of war” when the opponent refuses to do so. The only point of the rules of war is that both sides adhere to it with the understanding that the other side with also adhere to it, thus protecting each side’s civilians from as much death and destruction as is possible in war.
The left has got us believing that the “rules of war” are some kind of objective moral code that we must always adhere to regardless of what the enemy does. That is insane and goes completely against the entire point of the rules of war. the idea, for instance, is that you treat soldiers you capture well so that the other side will do the same. If the other side stops, you stop also. The rules of war only apply if they are reciprocal.
We cannot allow countries like Iran to believe that they can attack civilian populations with impunity. Retaliation for such an attack should be swift and severe so that no other nation ever thinks of doing it again. In other words, a scud-type missile into the center of Tel Aviv should be met with 10 times the destruction in Tehran. I know that sounds cold, heartless and inhumane, but in reality it is the opposite. Such an action will reinforce the purpose of the rules of war to all countries that consider abandoning them.
If we do the opposite, we actually invite more attacks on civilian populations in the future, b/c countries like Iran rightly believe that they are immune from such retaliation while free to engage in such attacks. That mind-set cannot be allowed to continue as it is harmful to everyone.
Monkeytoe on December 6, 2011 at 7:49 AM
Russia will make a military alliance with Iran and the surrounding Islamic world and attack Israel in the future. See Ezekiel 38 and 39 for details and watch the DVD Epicenter. Most of these nations (which are listed in Ezekiel 38) are already in an alliance with each other. Thanks.
apacalyps on December 5, 2011 at 11:55 PM
It’s been for decades
the muzzos haven’t been armed with AKs coincidentally
Its always been a battle between western democracy and liberty vs communism/ totalitarianism
what chose your alliance was simply what nations leaderships were willing to do to their populace
Sonosam on December 6, 2011 at 10:25 AM
The Bible says a Russian-Islamic alliance attacks Israel (Ezekiel 38 and 39). This was not possible before 1948. It is another sign we have entered a period which the Bible calls the “last days.” Really worth watching: Epicenter
apacalyps on December 6, 2011 at 11:00 AM
Wonder what such an explosion might look like? Wonder no more…
massive
Terp Mole on December 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM
There’s no need for a “huge” bomb. A couple of small, well-placed devices are sufficient.
The solid fuel becomes the “huge bomb”.
Solaratov on December 6, 2011 at 1:04 PM
How much speculation can one cram into one article and come up with no real conclusions.
None of these news stories reflect a full account of anything that happened.
Anything we attempt to tie together here is purely guesswork (if not pure paranoia) at this point.
Lawrence on December 6, 2011 at 1:19 PM