Democrats feeling a little conflicted over potential Gingrich nomination; Update: Gingrich to Pelosi: Thanks for the early Christmas gift

posted at 2:45 pm on December 5, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Republicans may have mixed feelings about the rise of Newt Gingrich in the presidential primary race, but they’re not alone.  In two articles published today, readers either learn that Gingrich’s sudden move to the top of the polls has Democrats worried (Washington Post) or delighted (TPM-DC).  Let’s start  with the Post, which focuses on the worries of Democratic strategists who see real trouble in a Gingrich-Obama matchup:

But even as Gingrich’s sudden rise has filled many Obama supporters with cheer and some Republicans with dread, some Democratic strategists worry that the combative Gingrich presents some challenges for the Obama campaign that would not exist if Romney were the GOP candidate.

Where Romney, the former business executive and Massachusetts governor, poses a threat in his ability to win independents and conservative Democrats attracted to his image as an economic Mr. Fix-It, Gingrich could pursue a strategy that combines energizing the conservative base and chipping away Democratic support among Hispanics — an electoral formula that helped George W. Bush win in 2004.

Some Democrats believe that Gingrich, a hero of the conservative movement, would excite the party base more than a former liberal-state governor with a history of centrist views. And voters yearning for authenticity may be more open to the voluble and rumpled former House speaker, who frequently discusses his past mistakes and his recent conversion to Catholicism, than to a former ­equity-fund executive with perfect salt-and-pepper hair.

“He does not carry Wall Street baggage,” said one Democratic strategist working on the Obama reelection effort, speaking on the condition of anonymity to freely discuss his thinking. “He’s really smart. He’s definitely authentic.”

Perhaps most significantly, Gingrich has an extensive Hispanic outreach organization, which he has been building for years. Unlike anything in the Romney playbook, that network could give Gingrich a head start slicing into Obama’s base in key states in the Mountain West, where Hispanics are a fast-growing swing voting bloc. Polls show Hispanic voters, two-thirds of whom backed Obama in 2008, still favor the president — but GOP strategists believe that winning 40 percent of that vote could disrupt Obama’s electoral college strategy by putting Colorado, Arizona and Nevada in the Republican column.

Plus, as the Post’s Peter Wallsten and Anne Kornblut note, the prospect of having to debate Gingrich rather than Romney is, well, daunting.  Not only does that put Obama in a potentially damaging environment, the inevitable refusal to engage in the three-hour open format Gingrich proposes will make it look as though Obama doesn’t have the confidence to match wits with Gingrich.  It should be noted, however, that Romney has also performed very well in the current, deeply-flawed debate format, and in an election that will rest in large part on economic policy, Team Obama should be just as wary of tangling with Romney as they are with Gingrich.

TPM’s Brian Beutler reports that at least one Democrat thinks a Gingrich nomination would be terrific, though:

There’s no better illustration of how ecstatic Democrats are about Newt Gingrich leading the GOP primary pack than Nancy Pelosi’s strategic silence.

Pelosi knows more about Gingrich than perhaps any other major national political figure. She was a senior Democrat when Gingrich was House Speaker, served on the ethics committee that investigated Gingrich for tax cheating and campaign finance violations, and even cut a 2008 ad with him on the importance of addressing global climate change. …

Pelosi didn’t go into detail about Gingrich’s past transgressions, but she tipped her hand. “One of these days we’ll have a conversation about Newt Gingrich,” Pelosi said. “I know a lot about him. I served on the investigative committee that investigated him, four of us locked in a room in an undisclosed location for a year. A thousand pages of his stuff.”

I’m not as familiar with House Ethics Committee rules as I should be, but I would presume that anything kept sealed from investigations are supposed to remain sealed.  Threatening to leak sensitive investigation documents — especially on a selective basis — might form the basis of an ethics complaint in and of itself.  That’s not to say that such a release would take a public, on-the-record form, of course.  It seems inevitable that these documents will leak out when the timing most favors Barack Obama and the Democrats, and that Pelosi’s hands will be unstained by the leak — or at least would have been had she not made this threat now.

So much for that interlude on the love seat, huh?

The response from Gingrich to this threat should be a demand to unseal all of the records from that investigation, which did result in a $300,000 fine for submitting “inaccurate” information to the Ethics Committee about his tax-exempt organization and politicking.  However, a subsequent IRS investigation cleared Gingrich of any wrongdoing, which somewhat undermines Pelosi’s threat.  Early exposure would defuse that threat entirely and allow Gingrich to take the high road, while emphasizing that all of this took place over a decade ago.  If the House won’t release the documents after Gingrich calls for it, then any subsequent leak will look mighty partisan and unfair, and could run the risk of a big backlash against Democrats.

In short, it’s an unpredictable, combustible combination.  While Pelosi might feel thrilled by the prospect of a Gingrich-Obama contest, there are plenty of reasons why other Democrats don’t feel anywhere near as sanguine about it.  Besides, if the debate comes down to accusations of financial impropriety, then Republicans have a card or two they can play as well:

Jon Corzine, former CEO of MF Global, has given tens of thousands of dollars to the Democratic Party in recent months, putting Democratic lawmakers in awkward positions ahead of Corzine’s subpoenaed appearance before a House committee next week.

The House Agriculture Committee wants Corzine to explain the financial collapse of MF Global and what may have happened to clients’ investments. …

Corzine gave $15,000 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee on Sept. 28 and $30,800 to the Democratic National Committee in June.

While he has contributed to Democrats such as Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), and Reps. Rush Holt (D-N.J.), Frank Pallone (D-N.J.) and George Miller (D-Calif.), Corzine has become a political liability to his former allies on the Hill.

That didn’t happen 14 years ago, either.

Update: Newt Gingrich fires back at Pelosi for her threat — and calls for an ethics probe of Pelosi if she makes good on it:

First of all I’d like to thank Speaker Pelosi for what I regard as an early Christmas gift. If she’s suggesting she’s gonna use material she developed while she was on the ethics committee, that is a fundamental violation of the rules of the House and I would hope members would immediately file charges against her the second she does it.

Gingrich’s appreciation for this “early Christmas gift” underscores how this threat exposes just how political her ethics probe at the time actually was.  The Right Scoop has the full statement.

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Pelosi, could we look into your stock trades, too? Yes, that IPO where you made mucho dinero. I’m sure it was very ethical to get tips from Visa and to put the kibosh on damaging legislation in order to make lots of money.

andy85719 on December 5, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Pelosi isn’t that bright, is she?

Punchenko on December 5, 2011 at 2:50 PM

“One of these days we’ll have a conversation about Newt Gingrich,” Pelosi said. “I know a lot about him. I served on the investigative committee that investigated him, four of us locked in a room in an undisclosed location for a year. A thousand pages of his stuff.”

Well, since democrats seem to be OK with using investigations for political dirt, I think it’s time for the Republican controlled congress to investigate her.

Scrappy on December 5, 2011 at 2:50 PM

I have no problems with “Washington insiders” as long as they are willing and able to bring the fight to the Dems.

Bat Chain Puller on December 5, 2011 at 2:51 PM

Pelosi & Frank preemptively strike Newt…

The media loves Mitt ..

Hmmm, is there a briar patch here?

CrazyGene on December 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM

The Congresswoman from Insider Trading is going to threaten dirt against Gingrich? Based on information she gathered while in a closed-door ethics investigation?

Exactly how many House rules does she plan to violate in pursuit of reelecting Barack Obama?

amerpundit on December 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM

“He does not carry Wall Street baggage,” said one Democratic strategist working on the Obama reelection effort

How ’bout Newt’s Freddie Mac baggage?

JA on December 5, 2011 at 2:53 PM

P.S. so much for that couch thing, huh?

Bat Chain Puller on December 5, 2011 at 2:53 PM

Pelosi also lives in the perpetual “La-La land” where she believes she’s gonna be Madam Speaker again in 2012. I think this is more “What me, worry?” strategy to discredit Gingrich.

Meric1837 on December 5, 2011 at 2:53 PM

Nanzi is soooo scary…

d1carter on December 5, 2011 at 2:55 PM

The Congresswoman from Insider Trading is going to threaten dirt against Gingrich? Based on information she gathered while in a closed-door ethics investigation?

Exactly how many House rules does she plan to violate in pursuit of reelecting Barack Obama?

amerpundit on December 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM

All of them?

Chip on December 5, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Why would Newt refer to her as Speaker Pelosi?

rockmom on December 5, 2011 at 2:55 PM

It doesn’t matter to nan and the rest of the dems if the its found no wrong doing, they’ll do their usual speil of only giving part of the story and the lsm running with it

cmsinaz on December 5, 2011 at 2:56 PM

“but I would presume that anything kept sealed from investigations are supposed to remain sealed. Threatening to leak sensitive investigation documents — especially on a selective basis — might form the basis of an ethics complaint in and of itself.”

Sealed? Democrats NEVER care one whit about “sealed documents”

Ask our President how he became a Senator.………

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/david-axelrod—gets-obamas-opponents-sealed-divorce-records-opened-up/question-2312341/

Opposite Day on December 5, 2011 at 2:56 PM

The response from Gingrich to this threat should be a demand to unseal all of the records from that investigation…

Even with the reply by Gingrich, I am all for this. Get it out there now.

cozmo on December 5, 2011 at 2:57 PM

Good for newt, just read his reply

cmsinaz on December 5, 2011 at 2:58 PM

Threatening to leak sensitive investigation documents — especially on a selective basis — might form the basis of an ethics complaint in and of itself.

Yeah, but that would imply that Nancy-poo has any ethics. So far, her track record would indicate just the opposite.

GarandFan on December 5, 2011 at 2:58 PM

Well, since democrats seem to be OK with using investigations for political dirt, I think it’s time for the Republican controlled congress to investigate her.

Scrappy on December 5, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Bingo. This brain-dead witch is so used to “do as I say, not as I do” that she is dumb enough to state publicly that she will leak investigation details to damage someone else politically.

Since she has stated that doing so is perfectly legitimate, blow her away with it. Pull everything on Rangel, everything on Pelosi, everything on every single Obama Party member they have ever investigated and publicize it.

When the dust clears, the witch will still win her seat back — there are enough looney-bin liberals in SF that they will rationalize anything and everything she does, up to and including murder – but she and her leadership will have become so radioactive that all any Republican challenger need do is point out how many times the Obama Party idiot voted with and supported Pelosi.

northdallasthirty on December 5, 2011 at 2:59 PM

Pelosi isn’t that bright, is she?

Punchenko on December 5, 2011 at 2:50 PM

A complete political animal. She only thinks in those terms. And Maxine Waters will replace Barney Frank as ranking Dem on the House Finance Committee. When we wonder why things are so screwed up in Congress, it isn’t hard to see why. Seniority, not competence, is a big part of it.

a capella on December 5, 2011 at 2:59 PM

Liar! Because no one who spent the last 40 years in DC has anything to hide.

swamp_yankee on December 5, 2011 at 2:59 PM

And yet, Newt paid $300K. Based on the new standard (*cough* Cain), that PROVES he’s a corrupt POS, not just kicking in money to put an end to the hassle. Not to mention the incredible salaciousness in his past means he’s completely unworthy.

Or does the new standard only apply to non-Anglos?

michaelo on December 5, 2011 at 2:59 PM

Guess nan engaged mouth before brain on this issue? Good work newt and team!
L

letget on December 5, 2011 at 3:01 PM

If Pelosi were truly strategically silent this article would never have been written, thus she doesn’t actually have anything important.

GardenGnome on December 5, 2011 at 3:02 PM

OT: FAA head arrested for drunk driving. That is the judgement we have controlling the FAA. Obot to boot.

andy85719 on December 5, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Morning Joe will run with this….idiots

cmsinaz on December 5, 2011 at 3:04 PM

“Newt Gingrich fires back at Pelosi for her threat — and calls for an ethics probe of Pelosi if she makes good on it…”

Nancy thinks she is too clever by half…

… just couldn’t help herself.

Maybe it’s time that a sitting member of Congress call her out on this…

… right, Mr. Boehner?

Seven Percent Solution on December 5, 2011 at 3:05 PM

His whole response is a Must-Watch. It boils down to “I was vindicated on all charges but “as you know, corrections are usually printed on page 17″ and Gingrich says he “welcomes” the education of the voting public that Pelosi is giving here.

I hear about Gingirich’s “baggage” constantly in the MSM and even here, yet upon close inspection all I have seen so far are Democrat lies/distortions and “true conservative” outrage.

Mord on December 5, 2011 at 3:05 PM

keep telling yourself that Newt… whatever was worked up during that investigation no doubt lives elsewhere and has or can easily be assembled separately…

gatorboy on December 5, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Aw Newt, you never should have sat on that Succubus’ couch.
You should have resisted her Siren’s song.

I know, I know, you were trying save the planet from eminent climate peril, but that is just what she wanted you to think.

Lily on December 5, 2011 at 3:06 PM

I served on the investigative committee that investigated him, four of us locked in a room in an undisclosed location for a year.

I bet the smell was pretty awful. :-(

Punchenko on December 5, 2011 at 3:07 PM

Heh, S.E. Cupp is on MSNBC shilling for Romney and knocking Newt.

Punchenko on December 5, 2011 at 3:08 PM

I’m not as familiar with House Ethics Committee rules as I should be, but I would presume that anything kept sealed from investigations are supposed to remain sealed. Threatening to leak sensitive investigation documents — especially on a selective basis — might form the basis of an ethics complaint in and of itself

The whole purpose of a House Ethics Committee is to manipulate the image of your opponent. The Committee is called the ‘Ethics’ Committee because otherwise you would never figure out it has anything to do with ethics.

Since the word ‘Ethics’ has a different meaning for politicians, I assume it would be politically unethical for Pelosi to refrain from smearing her opponent by inuendo.

More amazing to me is her willingness to jerk around the public by holding back. If Newt broke the law, turn him in. If he did not break the law, how secret are these secrets?

The gamesters played Cain out like a poodle on a leash, let him collect donations and close out a big part of the campaign season before they staged his demise. That was to advantage some opponent, but at a price to the public.

Is Pelosi so wacked she thinks she can announce she is going to string the public along until she feels like spilling the goods?

entagor on December 5, 2011 at 3:09 PM

Well, since democrats seem to be OK with using investigations for political dirt, I think it’s time for the Republican controlled congress to investigate her.

They don’t and won’t. The Stupid Party.

rickyricardo on December 5, 2011 at 3:09 PM

While Pelosi might feel thrilled by the prospect of a Gingrich-Obama contest, there are plenty of reasons why other Democrats don’t feel anywhere near as sanguine about it.

LOL!! Really Ed? We are going to counter all the Obama attacks agaisnt Newt his unethical, corruption charges, lobbying cronyism that will be hurled at him 24/7 with Jon Corzine’s behavior?!!

ROFLMAO.

“In short, it’s an unpredictable, combustible combination.”

That is true because we really don’t know if there are more women in Gingrich’s background either that will be popping up for their 15 minutes of fame.

I’m sure Gloria Allred has plenty of places to mine for info.

Newt is gift to Obama & the DNC because next to Newt ethical violations & personal conduct they can look pretty squeaky clean…..Ugh.

Newt’s a depressing prospect.

sheryl on December 5, 2011 at 3:09 PM

Punchenko on December 5, 2011 at 3:08 PM

Yeah, that’s really too bad.

Cindy Munford on December 5, 2011 at 3:10 PM

Newt seems to imply there IS dirt on him he doesn’t want out there.

cartooner on December 5, 2011 at 3:10 PM

Feel free to keep interjecting yourself into these matters, Nancy.

jjshaka on December 5, 2011 at 3:12 PM

That is really digging cartooner. Your NDS looks like a terminal case. Did you miss the part where the IRS cleared him? Are you advocate House Rules violations?

andy85719 on December 5, 2011 at 3:12 PM

With enemies like the Dems, the Left, the Media, and the Politica Elite Ruling Class RINOs…

… who needs friends?

Seven Percent Solution on December 5, 2011 at 3:13 PM

So long as Newt keeps hitting back effectively the Dems are in deep do do.

Speakup on December 5, 2011 at 3:13 PM

Why would Newt refer to her as Speaker Pelosi?

rockmom on December 5, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Same reason we say Gov. Palin, or Speaker Gingrich.

preallocated on December 5, 2011 at 3:14 PM

four of us locked in a room in an undisclosed location for a year.

Bush/Cheney spent years in an undisclosed location hunting terrorists. Democrats do it to hunt republicans.

Quite a contrast.

lorien1973 on December 5, 2011 at 3:15 PM

Update: Newt Gingrich fires back at Pelosi for her threat — and calls for an ethics probe of Pelosi if she makes good on it: First of all I’d like to thank Speaker Pelosi for what I regard as an early Christmas gift. If she’s suggesting she’s gonna use material she developed while she was on the ethics committee, that is a fundamental violation of the rules of the House and I would hope members would immediately file charges against her the second she does it.

Newt, you had me at, call for an ethics probe of Pelosi.

Merry Christmas to you and yours also, sorry I didn’t get you anything, I didn’t know you were getting me anything ;)

Dr Evil on December 5, 2011 at 3:15 PM

His whole response is a Must-Watch. It boils down to “I was vindicated on all charges but “as you know, corrections are usually printed on page 17″ and Gingrich says he “welcomes” the education of the voting public that Pelosi is giving here.

I hear about Gingirich’s “baggage” constantly in the MSM and even here, yet upon close inspection all I have seen so far are Democrat lies/distortions and “true conservative” outrage.

Mord on December 5, 2011 at 3:05 PM

That was great – now she’ll be in the position of either having to violate her ethics…. Scratch that…. violate the House ethics rules or if she has something else, reveal that instead.

Chip on December 5, 2011 at 3:15 PM

Why would Newt refer to her as Speaker Pelosi?

rockmom on December 5, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Why would Newt refer to her as Speaker Pelosi?

rockmom on December 5, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Hahaha .. Paying back-taxes is a little different than sexual harassment hush money :-) And regardless, he was eventually cleared and the money returned. Did any of Cain’s many down-low’s ever repay him?

preallocated on December 5, 2011 at 3:17 PM

Newt is gift to Obama & the DNC because next to Newt ethical violations & personal conduct they can look pretty squeaky clean…..Ugh.

Newt’s a depressing prospect.

sheryl on December 5, 2011 at 3:09 PM

Uh huh. Sure.

And your argument is that Romney is somehow magically better because the Obama Party and its media hacks don’t have any dirt on him and won’t stoop to lying?

They already lie. They already ARE lying. And we know how desperate they are when the Sea Hag is out there threatening to leak information to destroy a candidate.

Sea Hag wants to face Romney because the Romney-Bot cannot punch back. Romney has in his career taken every single position that Obama has.

For pete’s sake, Romney lost to McCain. MCCAIN!

Gingrich is flagrantly imperfect. At this point, no one cares. He showed why he is the top choice today when he punched back at the destructive, idiotic witch Pelosi.

Romney would still be sitting in a focus group asking people what to say and making sure that every word in his response was satisfying to absolutely everyone.

northdallasthirty on December 5, 2011 at 3:17 PM

amerpundit on December 5, 2011 at 2:52 PM

As many as she has to.

Rules are for chumps… and the ‘law-abiding’.

CPT. Charles on December 5, 2011 at 3:18 PM

Sheryl, they don’t have to paint Newt in different colors than they wear; all they have to do is paint him in the SAME colors- and they win. Newt DID pay $300,000 for SOMETHING (And unlike Cain, Gingrich’s payment was made WITH his knowledge). Or- again- are Anglo males exempt from the new standards for candidates (according to what Cain went through)?

michaelo on December 5, 2011 at 3:18 PM

Let’s face it, fellow Repubs – Newt is probably going to be the nominee – so the sooner we stop flinging mudpies at him (and giving Dems ammo) the better. The other contenders should stop tearing him down if they want any chance to be VP. Right now, Bachmann, for instance, is just making herself look crabby and mean. All the while, Newt smiles.

They should be taking rounds out of Ron Paul, if they want to climb up in the ratings.

Do you remember the speach that Newt gave at McCain’s convention…fabulous, and moving! I have no fears about Newt uniting the Repubs once that convention is over.

And what he did in the past – well, the sooner we move on..the better.

moonlighter on December 5, 2011 at 3:19 PM

F*ckin’ A. This is why we need Newt. The only republican in my lifetime (outside Rudy G.) who knows how to fight — dirty, clean, smart, whatever way is necessary.

rrpjr on December 5, 2011 at 3:19 PM

Newt, you had me at, call for an ethics probe of Pelosi.

Merry Christmas to you and yours also, sorry I didn’t get you anything, I didn’t know you were getting me anything ;)

Dr Evil on December 5, 2011 at 3:15 PM

Yes, that was like a major league baseball player hitting one out of the park… just beautiful!

Chip on December 5, 2011 at 3:21 PM

sheryl on December 5, 2011 at 3:09 PM

Would you think differently of him if he spoke french?

cozmo on December 5, 2011 at 3:21 PM

If Pelosi were truly strategically silent this article would never have been written, thus she doesn’t actually have anything important.

GardenGnome on December 5, 2011 at 3:02 PM

Or, she’s just an idiot.

BacaDog on December 5, 2011 at 3:23 PM

People who live and glass houses, madam should never throw stones.

Pelosi, you are an idiot.

JAM on December 5, 2011 at 3:23 PM

Or, she’s just an idiot.

BacaDog on December 5, 2011 at 3:23 PM

It’s that.

Pelosi is essentially Veruca Salt after sixteen facelifts.

northdallasthirty on December 5, 2011 at 3:26 PM

Can I file charges against Pelosi for trying to blackmail me into voting for someone other that Newt?

mockmook on December 5, 2011 at 3:27 PM

The more this crap hits the wall from the left and the beltway RINO’s the more I like Newt, warts and all !

Sandybourne on December 5, 2011 at 3:27 PM

OT: Germany poised to lose AAA rating, along with rest of Eurozone AAAs.

andy85719 on December 5, 2011 at 3:27 PM

My fear, borne out by what happened with Herman Cain and with all “gotcha” politics, is that the one who leaks damaging information, regardless of how inconsequential or how “sealed” it should have remained, is seen as noble and trustworthy, as long as the leaked information cannot be disputed. Any defense against the leaks is then seen as an attempt to pull a cover over the truth.

bodotdot on December 5, 2011 at 3:29 PM

Newt used to be unethical, then he took an arrow to the knee and now he’s ethical again.

/skyrim

lorien1973 on December 5, 2011 at 3:30 PM

That is really digging cartooner. Your NDS looks like a terminal case. Did you miss the part where the IRS cleared him? Are you advocate House Rules violations?

andy85719 on December 5, 2011 at 3:12 PM

As others have said, is Pelosi so stupid as to tip her hand? Of course she isn’t. She got the response from Newt she wanted: Newt has something to hide. Never mind he was cleared by the IRS, there’s something he doesn’t want made public. Let’s just say, for instance, that there IS something politically harmful in those sealed docs. If they start calling for him to release them, he will look even more guilty by refusing. True or not, there’s just a little more doubt to add to the baggage.

cartooner on December 5, 2011 at 3:30 PM

violate the House ethics rules or if she has something else, reveal that instead.

Chip on December 5, 2011 at 3:15 PM

Gingrich handles this exactly the way I wished Cain had handled his situation. It just shows to me how valuable “political” experience really is, I had high hopes for Cain.

I can’t get over how trite and silly all of Gingrich’s baggage looks through the lens of time and experience. I believed the liberal lie about his “death bed divorce” because I heard no defense against it.

Mord on December 5, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Slam. Next? This is what we need, people.

sleepingiantsup on December 5, 2011 at 3:30 PM

To say that Pelosi and ethics are like oil and vinegar would be way mild.

The witch didn’t realize the powder that flew out of her scheme.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Let’s face it, fellow Repubs – Newt is probably going to be the nominee – so the sooner we stop flinging mudpies at him (and giving Dems ammo) the better. The other contenders should stop tearing him down if they want any chance to be VP. Right now, Bachmann, for instance, is just making herself look crabby and mean. All the while, Newt smiles.

They should be taking rounds out of Ron Paul, if they want to climb up in the ratings.

Do you remember the speach that Newt gave at McCain’s convention…fabulous, and moving! I have no fears about Newt uniting the Repubs once that convention is over.

And what he did in the past – well, the sooner we move on..the better.

moonlighter on December 5, 2011 at 3:19 PM

Newt can’t win the general. Sorry.

haner on December 5, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Pelosi isn’t that bright, is she?

Punchenko on December 5, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Not at all. He’s got the goods on what a harlot she was/is.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Update: Newt Gingrich fires back at Pelosi for her threat — and calls for an ethics probe of Pelosi if she makes good on it:

Weren’t there a few earmarks for businesses run by Pelosi’s family?
Madam Ex-Speaker might not want to go there with Mr. Ex-Speaker…

Darn, we won’t see any more love-seat ads against global warming, will we?

Steve Z on December 5, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Newt can’t win the general. Sorry.

haner on December 5, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Delusions are indignant.

Schadenfreude on December 5, 2011 at 3:32 PM

sheryl on December 5, 2011 at 3:09 PM

Would you think differently of him if he spoke french?

cozmo on December 5, 2011 at 3:21 PM

What’s ‘ouch’ in Frog? Ribbet?

cartooner on December 5, 2011 at 3:33 PM

Pelosi really can’t be as dumb as she seems,can she?

jeanie on December 5, 2011 at 3:34 PM

This is a gift to Newt.

1) Granny McBotox making ethics an issue in this election? Hello Solyndra, Fast & Furious, Congressional insider trading, and whatever the real reason is that Barney Frank is stepping down. Newt could turn this on her faster than you can say, “Granny’s been lining her pockets all along — and her husband and children’s pockets, too!” Pelosi belongs in prison, has for a long, long time. Newt might be able to make sure the American people understand that.

2) Her preemptive threat demonstrates that the democrat leadership and President Zero are very afraid of a Newt candidacy. It’s early, but their internal polls against him must be baaaad.

Rational Thought on December 5, 2011 at 3:34 PM

Pelosi didn’t go into detail about Gingrich’s past transgressions, but she tipped her hand. “One of these days we’ll have a conversation about Newt Gingrich,” Pelosi said. “I know a lot about him. I served on the investigative committee that investigated him, four of us locked in a room in an undisclosed location for a year.”

I’m so looking forward to the upcoming press conference featuring a teary-eyed, quavering Princess Nancy, with a grim-faced Gloria Allred hovering protectively by her side.

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RedPepper on December 5, 2011 at 3:34 PM

Romney is Pelosi’s best shot to depress GOP turn-out and maybe — just maybe! — squeak a few (D) House seat wins in her favor.

Punchenko on December 5, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Does anybody really think that such details from the Ethics Committee wouldn’t be leaked by an anonymous source?

Sure, Pelosi and her minions would be the prime suspects, but it’s not like the MSM would rat them out for the leak. She doesn’t care one little bit that it would be a violation of House rules, because she knows she’d never be caught.

Hollowpoint on December 5, 2011 at 3:38 PM

I’m so looking forward to the upcoming press conference featuring a teary-eyed, quavering Princess Nancy, with a grim-faced Gloria Allred hovering protectively by her side.

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RedPepper on December 5, 2011 at 3:34 PM

+7%…!

Seven Percent Solution on December 5, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Would you think differently of him if he spoke french?

cozmo on December 5, 2011 at 3:21 PM

No.

Sorry I’ll strongly promote & vote for Mitt. I’ll mildly promote & vote for Santorum and Bachmann. I’ll plug my nose and quietly vote for Paul or Perry or Huntsman, but I’m not voting for POTUS if Newt’s our candidate.

The revelation that Newt was taking 30K a month (to the tune of 1.8 milion) from Fannie and Freddie during the financial meltdown to prop them up is where I’ve drawn the line.

This is pretty much what Barney Frank did. Not interested in voting for our party’s version Barney Frank.

sheryl on December 5, 2011 at 3:42 PM

Gingrich handles this exactly the way I wished Cain had handled his situation. It just shows to me how valuable “political” experience really is, I had high hopes for Cain.

I can’t get over how trite and silly all of Gingrich’s baggage looks through the lens of time and experience. I believed the liberal lie about his “death bed divorce” because I heard no defense against it.

Mord on December 5, 2011 at 3:30 PM

I look at it this way: There is no such thing as a Perfect candidate, it’s just a matter of timing when and where the mud is thrown..

And that timing tells you more about our socialist national media than anything else.

It should indicate to everyone who they want up against their hero El Presidente Downgrade.

Chip on December 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM

haner on December 5, 2011 at 3:31 PM

It’s just as valid to say:

____________can’t win the general. Sorry.

Is it not?

Chip on December 5, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Does anybody really think that such details from the Ethics Committee wouldn’t be leaked by an anonymous source?

Sure, Pelosi and her minions would be the prime suspects, but it’s not like the MSM would rat them out for the leak. She doesn’t care one little bit that it would be a violation of House rules, because she knows she’d never be caught.

Hollowpoint on December 5, 2011 at 3:38 PM

I don’t doubt that they will try if they have a chance. The real question is: Would anyone who isn’t reflexively voting for Obama really care about the “charges”?

Remember that the most “trans formative” President in US history is shedding support like a duck sheds water. People in his own party are avoiding being seen with him in order to preserve their own re-election chances.

Mord on December 5, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Again, Newt annoys all of the right people. Go Newt!!!!

karenhasfreedom on December 5, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Newt used to be unethical, then he took an arrow to the knee and now he’s ethical again.

/skyrim

lorien1973 on December 5, 2011 at 3:30 PM

A fellow Skyrim player? I knew I liked you, lorien.

Kataklysmic on December 5, 2011 at 3:50 PM

“She” won’t leak the information, but she’ll get someone else in her staff to *whiseper* in Politico’s ear about it.

SouthernGent on December 5, 2011 at 3:50 PM

I don’t doubt that they will try if they have a chance. The real question is: Would anyone who isn’t reflexively voting for Obama really care about the “charges”?

Mord on December 5, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Remember that most voters pulled the lever for Obama once already. Getting them to change their minds isn’t as easy as you’d think- there’s a reason incumbents win the vast majority of the time.

Being Not Obama won’t be good enough, not by a long shot. Any major revelation regarding ethics failings would be damaging. People tend to care about that sort of thing. For many people, better the Devil You Know rather than the Devil You Don’t Know.

Hollowpoint on December 5, 2011 at 3:52 PM

“If she’s suggesting she’s gonna use material she developed while she was on the ethics committee, that is a fundamental violation of the rules of the House and I would hope members would immediately file charges against her the second she does it.”

Hmmm.

Anybody else notice that Newt isn’t saying, “there was nothing to Pelosi & Co’s politically motivated ethics charges” but instead, “Pelosi better not break confidentiality on what she dug up on me.”

Yeah, let’s nominate Newt.

BocaJuniors on December 5, 2011 at 3:53 PM

It should indicate to everyone who they want up against their hero El Presidente Downgrade.

Chip on December 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM

In big bold bright letters…

… you can hear their nervous laughter as they claim they want Newt to be the candidate.

Seven Percent Solution on December 5, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Romney is Pelosi’s best shot to depress GOP turn-out and maybe — just maybe! — squeak a few (D) House seat wins in her favor.

Punchenko on December 5, 2011 at 3:35 PM

THIS!!!!!

karenhasfreedom on December 5, 2011 at 3:55 PM

“Sorry I’ll strongly promote & vote for Mitt. I’ll mildly promote & vote for Santorum and Bachmann. I’ll plug my nose and quietly vote for Paul or Perry or Huntsman, but I’m not voting for POTUS if Newt’s our candidate.”

OK, so you would rather have 4 more (lame duck) years of O? What do you have against the United States of America?

moonlighter on December 5, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Punchenko on December 5, 2011 at 3:08 PM

Yeah, that’s really too bad.

Cindy Munford on December 5, 2011 at 3:10 PM

Maybe it is because S.E. Cupp sees what many Romney supporters see in him as a person that can and will beat Obama if he is the nominee. As I posted on the other story about Gingrich…there are still NOT MANY in Congress and past members that are thrilled about a Gingrich presidency. Many here that talk about Romney bringing the voters out I believe it WILL BE WORSE if Gingrich is the nominee. The Dems do not have to go to some secret squirrel ethics vault to attack Gingrich because there is plenty out there to attack him with. Unfortunately for us, Gingrich is so arrogant it blinds him and this is from MANY past co-workers and staff members of HIS.

We all need to remember that Carville’s one good quote back in the day: It’s the economy stupid!

Who is the one person in the field tailored for this specific cause? Romney as he has FIXED economic issues ALL OF HIS LIFE. Gingrich remember lobbied and backed Bush’s Medicare Prescription Drug Bill…nice one. how many trllions is that going to cost?

g2825m on December 5, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Yeah, let’s nominate Newt.

BocaJuniors on December 5, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Maybe you should have followed the linky and listened to Newt’s whole response…

Seven Percent Solution on December 5, 2011 at 3:57 PM

I remember in 1980 when the Dems were ectstatic to run against Ronald Reagan who they said was an unelectable grade B movie actor dunce who was also too old. The election was a landslide for Reagan over Carter. It is nearly a year before the 2012 general election, conventional wisdom has time to swing many times before then. I take the same view with the primary. Since I do not have to vote until April, I do not feel a need to chose until April.

KW64 on December 5, 2011 at 4:00 PM

I served on the investigative committee that investigated him, four of us locked in a room in an undisclosed location for a year.

The other members of the committee remember it as The Year of Living Dangerously.

Lily on December 5, 2011 at 4:02 PM

g2825m on December 5, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Well I should hope so, I’d hate to think of her b.s.ing the MSNBC audience.

Cindy Munford on December 5, 2011 at 4:03 PM

Maybe you should have followed the linky and listened to Newt’s whole response…

Seven Percent Solution on December 5, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Touche.

I still don’t understand why he is afraid of what Pelosi will say or leak…if everything is so squeaky-clean.

BocaJuniors on December 5, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Maybe you should have followed the linky and listened to Newt’s whole response…

Seven Percent Solution on December 5, 2011 at 3:57 PM

I took a look at it, and you’re right. The point of his comments was that the entire process was political, because Granny McBotox was involved in it and she was simply doing a political hit job. Watching the video, oh man is Newt ever pissed. I think he’s about to go scorched earth on Granny McBotox. If anyone can put that repugnant old bag on the ropes, it’s Newt. I’m sure he has his share of dirt on that decrepit old corpse, too, and I hope he brings it. She is a national embarrassment of the highest order.

Rational Thought on December 5, 2011 at 4:07 PM

I remember in 1980 when the Dems were ectstatic to run against Ronald Reagan who they said was an unelectable grade B movie actor dunce who was also too old. The election was a landslide for Reagan over Carter. It is nearly a year before the 2012 general election, conventional wisdom has time to swing many times before then. I take the same view with the primary. Since I do not have to vote until April, I do not feel a need to chose until April.

KW64 on December 5, 2011 at 4:00 PM

KW, good points.
Remember that the way the delegates are split now will likely drag the primaries out possibly HURTING any of our candidates in negative exposure for Obama to use himself and drain the Candidates money chest.

One other note about Gingrich…he has or will be missing some States deadlines to be on the ballot because he just has not had the organization to get his signatures to meet the States requirements. This is also possibly one of the reasons that Palin and Christie may not have run as they saw the small window to get added to the States “rosters”. Gingrich may not be on some States ballots because he did not prepare for this too well…another comment that many who have worked for and with him say about him that he is BIG on ideas but lacks preparation and direction.

This is the man we are looking to resolve our problems?

Romney is soooooo much better the executive and professional than Gingrich.

g2825m on December 5, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Touche.

I still don’t understand why he is afraid of what Pelosi will say or leak…if everything is so squeaky-clean.

BocaJuniors on December 5, 2011 at 4:05 PM

He’s not. His pointing out what a total political hack she is and daring the liberal Media to call out Pelosi on her stupidity.

WisRich on December 5, 2011 at 4:10 PM

Touche.

I still don’t understand why he is afraid of what Pelosi will say or leak…if everything is so squeaky-clean.

BocaJuniors on December 5, 2011 at 4:05 PM

He’s not. You can’t let someone come out with inuendo without knocking it back in their face.

Vince on December 5, 2011 at 4:14 PM

No.

“Sorry I’ll strongly promote & vote for Mitt. I’ll mildly promote & vote for Santorum and Bachmann. I’ll plug my nose and quietly vote for Paul or Perry or Huntsman, but I’m not voting for POTUS if Newt’s our candidate.
The revelation that Newt was taking 30K a month (to the tune of 1.8 milion) from Fannie and Freddie during the financial meltdown to prop them up is where I’ve drawn the line.
This is pretty much what Barney Frank did. Not interested in voting for our party’s version Barney Frank.”

sheryl on December 5, 2011 at 3:42 PM

I guess if you are a PRIVATE citizen working for any company legally it is the same as being an ELECTED official and working for the people! You must have trouble opening a box of cereal. If you cannot see the difference then you shouldn’t be voting anyway. Do you think for one minute that your boy Mitt would ever go after Wall Street? Where do you think he made his fortune? Do you think that NOW is the time to have a “Can’t we all get along” president? If you do then you don’t deserve to vote. If you want to have a nice kumbaya moment then you need to elect a Demorat and not a conservative for president. Newt ain’t pretty but he IS the smartest man running on either side.

inspectorudy on December 5, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Can we get one reporter in the MSM to ask Pelosi..

“Since you’ve admitted you would leak confidential information disclosed during an ethics committee relating to charges brought against Speaker Gingrich, charges that we’re dismissed, is it fair to say you are prepaired violate house ethics charges and possibly go to jail in order to help President Obama get reelected?”

Please, can’t we get one real reporter!

WisRich on December 5, 2011 at 4:18 PM

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