Alabama immigration law catching the wrong people?

posted at 2:05 pm on December 3, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

Since the implementation of new, tougher immigration laws in Alabama, there have been more than a few changes and plenty of controversy. One of the first things we heard was that crops were rotting in the fields with nobody left to harvest them. In those cases, the argument could still certainly be made that the workers in question were there illegally in most cases, so the system was working as designed. But now there seem to be new situations where the law of unintended consequences has come into play. Officials have now detained two executives from auto manufacturing companies operating in the state. The latest one was from Honda.

To arrest one foreign car-making executive under Alabama’s new tough immigration laws may be regarded as a misfortune; to arrest a second looks like carelessness.

A judge has acted to put a Japanese employee of Honda Motor Company out of his misery by dismissing immigration charges against him, three days after he was booked under Alabama’s new immigration laws that have been billed as the most swingeing in America. Ichiro Yada is one of about 100 Japanese managers of the company on assignment in southern state.

Yada was stopped in Leeds, Alabama, at a checkpoint set up by police to catch unlicenced drivers. He was ticketed on the spot, despite the fact that he showed an international driver’s licence, a valid passport and a US work permit.

The previous case involved the arrest of a representative of Mercedes-Benz under similar circumstances. So while well intentioned, the wide net of the law seems to be catching more fish than anyone anticipated, and it’s going to be embarrassing to have to keep tossing them back.

Mr. Yada was in possession of three different forms of identification which clearly showed that he was in the country and operating legally. But the import of this goes far beyond one employee of one company. The success of bringing foreign automobile manufacturing operations to the American south was widely touted as smart economic policy leading to the stimulation of business growth and all of the badly needed jobs which come with it. Too many incidents like this are going to have corporate leaders thinking twice about bringing their operations to a place where their workers may be unduly harassed.

It may be time for a fresh look at this law to see if it might not have been worded a bit better.

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Hummm, I’m suspicious, I’m wondering if this may be done on purpose by a few ‘party liners’ to try and make the law look bad…and if it was done to a competitor of Gov Motors…well…????

Aren’t these plants in the south non-union plants? So I wonder if union cops are “making problems” here.
This kind of “mistake” conveniently undermines several issues near and dear to the left and their union commie comrades.

Pole-Cat on December 3, 2011 at 9:01 PM

When you get to know many of the people from Alabama such as the two mentioned it is easy to understand how a state can be so collectively obtuse.
Bradky on December 3, 2011 at 7:05 PM

I hate to say it, but you sound rather “obtuse” when you make a statement like that.

http://youtu.be/obFHu7DCsEs

Gyro on December 3, 2011 at 9:40 PM

This is exactly what y’all wanted, folks. Own it.

ernesto on December 3, 2011 at 9:50 PM

This is exactly what y’all wanted, folks. Own it.

ernesto on December 3, 2011 at 9:50 PM

The following posts by AmericanDad, more than absolved the Alabama law of any fault or blame IN THESE TWO CASES.

AmericanDad on December 3, 2011 at 3:06 PM

AmericanDad on December 3, 2011 at 5:11 PM

Did you read any of the preceding posts before submitting yours?

listens2glenn on December 3, 2011 at 10:20 PM

He was ticketed on the spot, despite the fact that he showed an international driver’s licence, a valid passport and a US work permit.

This isn’t a problem with the law, it is a problem of stupid police. Maybe they think they are working for the TSA.

woodNfish on December 3, 2011 at 11:42 PM

Yada was stopped in Leeds, Alabama, at a checkpoint set up by police to catch unlicenced drivers. He was ticketed on the spot, despite the fact that he showed an international driver’s licence, a valid passport and a US work permit.

Wait, what?

Count to 10 on December 4, 2011 at 12:01 AM

This is exactly what y’all wanted, folks. Own it.

ernesto on December 3, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Now you’re just boring. You are attempting to pretend that an immigration law designed to find and deal with illegals, is responsible for law enforcement officers incorrectly detaining foreigners who both had perfectly valid proof of their identity, and right to work here. And you double down by implying that the Right is against all foreign immigration. Well, these gentlemen who were wrongly arrested are not immigrants, but foreign workers on legal visas. That you cannot fathom the difference only begins to scratch the surface of your ignorance.

What conservatives wanted, and continue to want, is for laws to be properly enforced, rather than the liberal method of selective enforcement to protect some, but not all, which is the basis of tyranny. Legal immigration is wonderful, this nation has always welcomed anyone who wishes to join this society properly, according to the process legally established. Something we hope you will someday do as well.

Freelancer on December 4, 2011 at 12:36 AM

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his is exactly what y’all wanted, folks. Own it.

Beatin’ up on your silly little straw doll again? You can’t say what we want because you are too busy playing your little word games.

WE can all play that. You want the country overrun with more little communists such as yourself. You won’t be happy until we all live in misery and you still won’t be happy. I think it highly likely the officer involved could have been a half wit like you, and either didn’t like the man because they won’t bow to the unions that believe like you that none of us should live happy and successful and arrested him, or like you an think that that those of asking for LEGAL immigration to continue and curtail ILLEGAL – in other words criminals from overrunning the country so you have some cheap, stupid votes, are somehow wrong for asking legal

Well, I AM an immigrant.. a LEGAL immigrant. I was born to an American Mother in Canada, and because of idiots like you I almost wasn’t allowed to come with when my family moved to the US. She had a LEGAL right to bring me but Hispanic paper-pushers like yourself thought that even tough the negotiated agreements between the US and Canada shouldn’t be honored because there were enough non-Hispanic Caucasians already. I was 15 years old, What exactly were we to do?

Don’t even get into your stupidity and mind games. You have what you want, a lying president, a game playing DOJ, and fudged numbers saying more of us are employed that are. Unions think they can roll over everyone, and we have black women giving birth to 16 kids she refuses to support properly and say that others should take responsibility for them .OWN that Ernesto- own the housing crisis, the banks failing and bailouts that should not have happened, California sinking to oblivion more and more each day for stupid liberal policy.. that is the sort of stuff that lack of character and democrats bring to the table.

Noelie on December 4, 2011 at 12:48 AM

Welcome Noelie. Better you than hopey changey.

Caststeel on December 4, 2011 at 1:07 AM

lol.. the filth always get their man

lexhamfox on December 4, 2011 at 3:13 AM

I honestly don’t see the problem here. ;o)

DannoJyd on December 4, 2011 at 5:40 AM

This is exactly what y’all wanted, folks. Own it.

ernesto on December 3, 2011 at 9:50 PM

The following posts by AmericanDad, more than absolved the Alabama law of any fault or blame IN THESE TWO CASES.

AmericanDad on December 3, 2011 at 3:06 PM

AmericanDad on December 3, 2011 at 5:11 PM

Did you read any of the preceding posts before submitting yours?

listens2glenn on December 3, 2011 at 10:20 PM

You didn’t really think Ernie cared about the truth did you?/

CW on December 4, 2011 at 10:06 AM

Yada was stopped in Leeds, Alabama, at a checkpoint set up by police to catch unlicenced drivers. He was ticketed on the spot, despite the fact that he showed an international driver’s licence, a valid passport and a US work permit.

The police that did the arresting weren’t obeying the law as written. They should be serving time for false arrest. Come on Alabama judges, start doing your job.

SC.Charlie on December 4, 2011 at 3:29 PM

Wow. “Crops left to rot in the fields”. What BS.

A story from my father. I’ve witnessed the outcome he describes, so I have no reason to doubt its truth:

Tomato farmers in northern Ohio used to depend on illegals, er, “migrant farm workers” for picking tomatoes. They supplied canneries, ketchup producers, soup makers, etc. They had long-term contracts — the farmers were partially paid for the fall crop in the spring, for example.

Then the “migrant farm workers” decided they wouldn’t show up for work. Either a strike or fear of immigration or something. Suddenly all these tomatoes are “left to rot in the fields”.

The companies had already paid for much of the crop. They had multi-year contracts with the farmers. But oh, noes! No one to pick the tomatoes!

So they helped the farmers develop and finance the purchase of picking machines. The farmers had to pay them off, of course, but they got good interest rates on the equipment (and possibly had to agree to lock-in produce prices for a number of years).

Result: it takes maybe half a dozen people to harvest a field of tomatoes. The farmers can do it with friends and family, or just by hiring a couple guys from the town nearby. No dependency on the “migrant farm workers”. The companies get the tomatoes they need to keep the world’s tomato soup supply going. Everyone wins but the crimin…, er, “migrant farm workers”.

So why isn’t this being done in Georgia and Alabama?

Perhaps because it’s CHEAPER to leave the crops “rotting in the field” than to bite the bullet and try to “get by” with a law-abiding work force?

Perhaps because advocates for criminals, er, “migrant farm workers” encourage the companies and farmers to believe there will be “relief” from the immigration crack-down soon?

Crawford on December 4, 2011 at 4:04 PM

The police that did the arresting weren’t obeying the law as written. They should be serving time for false arrest. Come on Alabama judges, start doing your job.

You should read the comments. Jazz “Hands” Shaw is misleading you as to the facts of the matter.

Crawford on December 4, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Like the kids of Lord of the flies

conservador on December 4, 2011 at 10:05 PM

It may be time for a fresh look at this law to see if it might not have been worded a bit better.

Or… maybe have another look at over-zealous law enforcement re-interpretations of a correctly worded law.

The article above talkes about the officer giving a ticket despite the driver having 3 forms of valid identification and a valid driver’s license. This is an issue of the officer making a wrong decision, pure and simple.

Lawrence on December 5, 2011 at 9:47 AM

I think this is an example of passive aggression on the part of the police.

The law in Alabama was in inspired by the law here in Arizona. Some cops here are also pulling shenanigans designed to create public resentment of the law by failing to enforce it accurately or honestly.

I have friends from Hungary and Poland, an older married couple who have been Americans since before I was born (1972), but have never acquired an American accent. Their foreign origin is obvious the moment they speak.

Their house was broken into. When the police arrived to investigate, they demanded that this couple prove they were here legally, despite the fact that sb1070 does not tell them to do any such thing. In fact the police are directed NOT to investigate the status of potential illegals who are the victims of a crime. No one wants illegal aliens to be targeted by criminals. No one, legal or illegal, should be afraid to call the police when they are the victim of a crime.

The police are pulling this nonsense because they don’t like having to enforce laws that require them to work. Anyone who has ever been the victim of a crime can tell you just how much cops act like state employees…which is exactly what they are. The only crimes they seem to take seriously are rape, murder, and drugs. Anything else…good luck!

By pretending that LEGAL aliens, whose legal status is a no-brainer, are in fact illegal aliens, and then pretending that they are just enforcing the anti-illegal statute, they attack that law from within.

The problem here is not that the law is bad, or is badly worded, but that the cops don’t want to enforce it because they will have to work harder. So they’re finding ways to sabotage it and make it look bad.

leereyno on December 5, 2011 at 10:47 AM

It may be time for a fresh look at this law to see if it might not have been worded a bit better.

Seems an overreaction.

Often times with something new, the Powers That Be celebrate the passage with no thought at all to the implementation. A law like this should have had a provision for training of all personnel – from cop to district attorney – regarding it’s implementation.

I’d wager there are few law enforcement offices in Alabama that had the time and resources to formally train their personnel regarding the enforcement of this law. I doubt that any federal office volunteered to show them what a valid passport and work visa looks like. Maybe they should be able to identify an international driver’s license, but give the cops the benefit of the doubt.

Two stumbles does not a indict a law. If they did, the highway speed limit would be over 200 mph.

Cricket624 on December 5, 2011 at 11:25 AM

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