“Recall Walker” effort starting strong, with 300,000 signatures in 12 days

posted at 9:25 am on December 1, 2011 by Tina Korbe

In case you missed it, United Wisconsin announced earlier this week that its members collected more than 300,000 signatures in support of a Scott Walker recall election in just 12 days. That’s not necessarily surprising — single-issue activists are notoriously focused and motivated people — but it’s still impressive, translating into more than 1,040 signatures an hour.

That’s also more than half the number needed. To trigger an election, the group has to collect at least 540,208 signatures. It seems safe to say they’ll reach that goal, especially with dedicated volunteers like blogger BattiestGrrl, who has made it a personal goal to collect 1,000 signatures herself and has challenged friends to do the same. Presumably, they’re even closer today to the necessary number than they were Monday, but I’m not sure how much closer. I put in a request for the updated number of signatures, but haven’t heard back yet. As soon as they do hit their target, officials will determine the election date, which could possibly be as early as March 27.

It’s important to keep in mind, though, that a signature to allow the recall election to go forward is still very different than a vote to actually recall the governor. I still think he’ll withstand the opposition’s best effort. The removal of a governor before the expiration of his term is no easily accomplished feat. In fact, just two gubernatorial recall elections in history have been successful — the efforts to recall California Gov. Gray Davis in 2003 and North Dakota Gov. Lynn Frazier in 1921.

Furthermore, while the latest reports of Walker’s approval rating reveal he’s not exactly popular (just 38 percent strongly approve), they also reveal he’s not exactly universally hated either (just 38 percent strongly disapprove). His recall will depend on highly incensed voters — and there might not be quite enough of those to oust him from office.

And, as I’ve written before, Scott Walker stands to succeed where people expect him to fail for a simple, old-fashioned reason: He’s a man of principle.

It’ll be a battle from start to finish — as every installment of this serial story has been. Both sides will be active and engaged in the fight. Since the recall effort began Nov. 15, Walker’s team has released a couple ads to downplay the recall attempt, for example, and, today, Wisconsin Democratic State Rep. Brett Hulsey released an ad against Walker. But, at this point, after two expensive attempts to rid Wisconsin of the court justice and state legislators who enabled Walker’s law to go forward in the first place, Walker opponents stand to lose far more than Walker supporters.

With every step — even with a successful signature drive — they look more foolish. What has been — and continues to be — most bizarre to me about the animosity toward Walker is that he wasn’t elected on false pretenses; he said his goal would be to balance the budget by virtually whatever means necessary and he has steadfastly pursued that goal. But according to his opponents, “Wisconsin can’t wait” for the normal election process. Hasn’t anybody ever told these people “patience is a virtue” or “wait your turn”? Wisconsin kindergarten teachers, at least, should know better.


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300,000 valid signatures is different from 300,000 signatures. One assumes the GOP will be closely reviewing the signatures for duplicates, 35 people at one address, vacant lots as addresses….

Wethal on December 1, 2011 at 9:29 AM

No mention of the fact that the lefty dem who is purported to be the election watchdog is refusing to verify any of the petition signatures, unless it’s a signature where a complaint is made on it specifically. These petition signatures are always supposed to be put to scrutiny.

Ceolas on December 1, 2011 at 9:31 AM

Walker is a courageous man. We could use few thousand more just like him. We need to stand up for the truth no mater what.

NickDeringer on December 1, 2011 at 9:32 AM

I’d trade Quinn and most of Chicago for Walker. Let Wisconsin feel the mighty collapse of their idiocracy.

Fallon on December 1, 2011 at 9:33 AM

This is why Public Sector unions need to be straight-up outlawed. They will NEVER EVER EVER accept anything less than what they had the year before, and will demand ever more and more, until the entire local economy collapses. Then, like locusts, they will move on to the next area and begin the process again.

Walker should have just pushed a bill to outlaw Wisconsin public sector unions and obliterated them right there. Maybe after all this farce is over and the unions lose again there will be enough will to kill them off permanently.

wearyman on December 1, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Alexander Graham Shrimpton,
Sprinkles Delacroix,
Und Der Dog,
&
Pamela Hotcakes

have all signed the petition.

roy_batty on December 1, 2011 at 9:35 AM

Walker is a man of principle. Something that is needed in today’s world of politics. I guess that the public service unions in Wisconsin want a person who will give them everything they want and bankrupt the state.

SC.Charlie on December 1, 2011 at 9:35 AM

No mention of the fact that the lefty dem who is purported to be the election watchdog is refusing to verify any of the petition signatures, unless it’s a signature where a complaint is made on it specifically. These petition signatures are always supposed to be put to scrutiny.

Ceolas on December 1, 2011 at 9:31 AM

The WI GOP is going to step in and do the job for them.

Wethal on December 1, 2011 at 9:36 AM

if the people of Wisconsin turn the state house over to that gaggle of communists then they deserve whatever fate befalls them.

rplat on December 1, 2011 at 9:37 AM

The folks in Wisconsin sure like to keep themselves all riled up don’t they. I bet the sale of antacids are huge.

Cindy Munford on December 1, 2011 at 9:38 AM

Of course, since the Government Accountability Board (aka the Dead Hand of Doyle) said that all they’ll be doing is making sure the boxes are filled in, One Wisconsin Now is encouraging multiple signatures, hoping that the Walker campaign can’t find all of them in the 10 days they’ll have to challenge them.

Steve Eggleston on December 1, 2011 at 9:39 AM

The perpetual elections of Wisconsin, if they were smart there would be a plan to make some sort of paid attraction out of the whole mess to attract tourists. “Come see the only state in the union where elections are constantly held”.

Of course actually going to Wisconsin would require getting quite a few shots, wearing a hazmat suit, and psychologically preparing yourself for the unusual appearance of Wisconsitonianites.

Bishop on December 1, 2011 at 9:43 AM

300,000 valid signatures is different from 300,000 signatures. One assumes the GOP will be closely reviewing the signatures for duplicates, 35 people at one address, vacant lots as addresses….

Wethal on December 1, 2011 at 9:29 AM

One would be wrong. Stupid GOP leaders would never do such a thing… Even if they find something amiss, they won’t file suit to protest. Because the GOP has no will to actually fight for Freedom anymore….. They have nothing but turn the other cheek in their makeup.

Subsunk

Subsunk on December 1, 2011 at 9:47 AM

http://biggovernment.com/bhealy/2011/11/30/wisc-election-watchdog-assumes-all-recall-signatures-are-valid-will-only-verify-contested-entries/#more-383452

Read this one and previous articles on the recall.

It sounds like the GAB is going to spend 30 days and over 500K just to see if the blanks are filled out properly BUT NOT VERIFY and that Walker/GOP will only have 10 days to verify signatures unless he goes to court over it- and wins.

On top of it they have been allowing people to sign more than one petition. Can you imagine how many of the 300,000 signatures already collected are duplicates or triplicates if teachers/staff, say 60 to a building, each have a petition and are signing each other’s?

journeyintothewhirlwind on December 1, 2011 at 9:49 AM

Feingold bailed.

A big problem for the recall effort will be finding a candidate. Some say they want to, but after two disappointing efforts with Kloppy and the state sen and seeing how heated these races have been, many candidates probably arent going to bother when push comes to shove.

swamp_yankee on December 1, 2011 at 9:52 AM

I wish we could get a recall of our crazed, inbred governor, the guy whose latest scheme consists of unionizing daycare providers so that the unions can skim off taxpayer-assisted centers.

These jackwads won’t be happy until the entire nation has fallen into the pit, and then they will point their fingers at you for letting it happen.

Bishop on December 1, 2011 at 9:54 AM

Recall elections are stupid.

They were stupid in California.

They were stupid in the Wisconsin Legislature.

Recalls should exist for one reason and one reason only – legal concerns.

Otherwise, you get what you voted for, whether you like it or not. Recall elections are attempts by sore losers to overturn election results. If you don’t like being stuck with one guy for four years, change the law to make it a two-year term. Otherwise, STFU.

Red Cloud on December 1, 2011 at 10:13 AM

One Wisconsin Now is actively pushing people to sign multiple times if they can. The Government Accountability Board will not be checking all the signatures for duplicates, they are hiring temp workers to check random samples. Considering each petition page has only 10 signatures, don’t expect them to find anything.

I don’t see any way that a recall election does not happen given the liberal rules for recalls in WI.

Adamski on December 1, 2011 at 10:20 AM

Related – 25% of the signatures in the effort to repeal Ohio’s collective bargaining changese, or 351,925 of 1,320,417 turned in, were found to be invalid. Those were found by the staff of Ohio’s Secretary of State in 6 days, including the 4th of July.

Need I mention Ohio’s Secretary of State is Republican?

Steve Eggleston on December 1, 2011 at 10:32 AM

I just gave some money to Scott Walker. Haven’t donated to any other candidates in this cycle but I believe in this guy.

rockmom on December 1, 2011 at 10:34 AM

Good luck, Gov Walker!! Stay the course!!

Khun Joe on December 1, 2011 at 10:44 AM

Signatures do not have to be someone who has voted or even someone registered to vote, just those “eligible” to vote = 18 or older, resident 28 days.

publiuspen on December 1, 2011 at 10:45 AM

I just gave some money to Scott Walker. Haven’t donated to any other candidates in this cycle but I believe in this guy.

rockmom on December 1, 2011 at 10:34 AM

Thank you.

As a note to those of you with big wallets, because Scott Walker (and Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch, and state Senators Van Wanggaard, Pam Galloway, Terry Moulton and Scott Fitzgerald) are targeted for recall, their campaigns can accept unlimited amounts of money until the final determination of sufficiency of the petitions against them by the GAB. Of course, they have to spend the money raised beyond the normal limits (for individuals, $10K per campaign cycle to a gov./lt. gov candidate, $1K per campaign cycle to a state Senator candidate, a total of $10K to all candidates/PACs per calendar year) during this time frame (or in further legal challenges).

If you are able to bust those limits, I strongly advise you to consult legal counsel on how to make sure you don’t run afoul of those limits, especially if not all of the “unlimited” money is not spent by the person of your choice.

Steve Eggleston on December 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM

I’d trade Quinn and most of Chicago for Walker. Let Wisconsin feel the mighty collapse of their idiocracy.

Fallon on December 1, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Ditto that!

Loving this idea also ♥…….
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/illinois-republican-wants-chicago-area-51st-state-160924927.html

tencole on December 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM

Signatures do not have to be someone who has voted or even someone registered to vote, just those “eligible” to vote = 18 or older, resident 28 days.

publiuspen on December 1, 2011 at 10:45 AM

And not under state supervision for a felony.

Steve Eggleston on December 1, 2011 at 10:52 AM

I’d trade Quinn and most of Chicago for Walker. Let Wisconsin feel the mighty collapse of their idiocracy.

Fallon on December 1, 2011 at 9:33 AM

You’re not getting Walker…until he wants to run for President.

Steve Eggleston on December 1, 2011 at 10:53 AM

Of course, since the Government Accountability Board (aka the Dead Hand of Doyle) said that all they’ll be doing is making sure the boxes are filled in, One Wisconsin Now is encouraging multiple signatures, hoping that the Walker campaign can’t find all of them in the 10 days they’ll have to challenge them.

Steve Eggleston on December 1, 2011 at 9:39 AM

If that’s the case the turnout of the anti-Walkers for the election would probably not be very good. I would think that would also provide incentive for pro-Walker voters to turn out in large numbers.

Vince on December 1, 2011 at 11:16 AM

People will sign a petition for anything, so no big deal.

Going to a voting booth and pulling the lever is a lot different.

ButterflyDragon on December 1, 2011 at 11:19 AM

Walker should send the union halls a bill for the damages to the State Buildings it is said to be in the millions or is the taxpayer going to get stuck for the clean up as the OWS clean up crews costs will also be payed by the tax payer. A three or four million dollar clean up bill will seriously effect the blabber mouths from the union halls when their treasuries are drained and their pensions taken for the clean up. This has happened before when a wild cat strike at a power facility in Ohio cost the union hall millions and indebted them for a long time paying it off and guess what? No more wild cat strikes.

mixplix on December 1, 2011 at 11:28 AM

I just gave some money to Scott Walker. Haven’t donated to any other candidates in this cycle but I believe in this guy.

rockmom on December 1, 2011 at 10:34 AM

Me too. Hopefully Walker will get a big money bomb from donors all over the country.

stvnscott on December 1, 2011 at 11:39 AM

When their leader, Obama, is incapable of the truth, why would anyone not have a clue that his tools are incapable of the truth too. This is insanity that this has any relevance whatsoever.

volsense on December 1, 2011 at 11:51 AM

Might assume that, under WI law, if Walker is displaced, the Lt.Gov assumes power until some ‘next election’ ??

Just weeks ago, in the suburbs of Flint MI, State Rep. Paul Scott (R), chairman of the House Education Committee, was removed (by ~200 of 24k votes) thru the mobilizing efforts of the state Teacher’s Union.

The MEA victory dance lasted less than a day — the time it took to appoint a new Committee chair — who is reportedly even less inclined to tolerate the union shenannigans. (http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/16046)

Oh .. and until there’s a special election (months away), the district voters are left with NO representation in the state-house.

Yeah, that future-vision worked out real well. Jackwagons.

Don’t suppose the folks of WI would be that shortsighted, are they?
/.

CaveatEmpty on December 1, 2011 at 11:54 AM

300,000 valid signatures is different from 300,000 signatures

This.

If I lived closer, I would volunteer to review the signatures on every petition. I bet at least 25% are phoney.

LASue on December 1, 2011 at 12:16 PM

The same kind of group in Michigan tried to get enough signatures to recall Gov. Snyder. They needed over 800,000 to get it on the ballot. They tapped out at 350,000 both times they tried it and have finally given up. Snyder has done just as much as Walker, but Snyder had a super majority in both the State House and Senate.

flytier on December 1, 2011 at 12:17 PM

My family will be voting for him again if the recall goes through. You want to know how stupid some of these liberals are. On Hubby’s facebook page some of the people he went to school turned out to be dumb. Posting that the public school teachers are starving. Now please I haven’t seen one story of a WI school teacher starving. That’s what they are saying. Some of the people we know there dropped the Union. I don’t think we will lose Walker. I hope not.

Brat4life on December 1, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Cindy Munford on December 1, 2011 at 9:38 AM

The problem is that most of the people involved with the recalls are coming from out of state to assist. Most of the excitement is really in Madison, leave here and it calms down quite a bit.

WhoU4 on December 1, 2011 at 12:47 PM

283,351 public workers in Wisconsin, how much you want a wager all but a tiny fraction already signed.

lowandslow on December 1, 2011 at 1:10 PM

i have a great idea. follow me, if you will.

a group of us, dedicated, go ahead and get a copy of the form of the ballots. we then study it, understand it ahead of time. we create a database AHEAD OF TIME that can be cross referenced very easily.

a few days before the validation starts, we go ahead and plan everyone getting to WI to go ahead and start “manually entering” these signatures and cross reference with names, addresses, etc.

while those who are the fastest out there type and enter (whether they look at the forms or have someone read the information to them), we have others looking and reviewing the data. we may even be able to use some kind of audio product that can enter the information for us.

we can then go ahead and cross reference anything that looks suspect and submit it.

does that make sense? does anyone like the idea? can we do something like this?

justpino on December 1, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Act database is good for sorting duplicate addresses or duplicate names. A field would have to be reserved to trace back the dupes to specific petition pages. Walker and the GOP need to amass 2,000 volunteers who can enter 250 names in one marathon day. They would then have several days to analyze the data and create a list if challenged names cross referenced to the exact petition page. Walker could work with the Act database company for a discounted license fee for the 2,000 volunteers.

How many union peeps opted out of auto deduction of dues?

karenhasfreedom on December 1, 2011 at 2:13 PM

283,351 public workers in Wisconsin, how much you want a wager all but a tiny fraction already signed.

lowandslow on December 1, 2011 at 1:10 PM

It’s actually 390,000, not counting federal workers, as of October.

Steve Eggleston on December 1, 2011 at 2:40 PM

Might assume that, under WI law, if Walker is displaced, the Lt.Gov assumes power until some ‘next election’ ??

Just weeks ago, in the suburbs of Flint MI, State Rep. Paul Scott (R), chairman of the House Education Committee, was removed (by ~200 of 24k votes) thru the mobilizing efforts of the state Teacher’s Union.

The MEA victory dance lasted less than a day — the time it took to appoint a new Committee chair — who is reportedly even less inclined to tolerate the union shenannigans. (http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/16046)

Oh .. and until there’s a special election (months away), the district voters are left with NO representation in the state-house.

Yeah, that future-vision worked out real well. Jackwagons.

Don’t suppose the folks of WI would be that shortsighted, are they?
/.

CaveatEmpty on December 1, 2011 at 11:54 AM

The normal line of succession doesn’t apply in the case of a recall removal. Indeed, resignation after the petitions are turned in does not cancel the recall election.

Further, they’re also targeting Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch.

Steve Eggleston on December 1, 2011 at 2:44 PM

If that’s the case the turnout of the anti-Walkers for the election would probably not be very good. I would think that would also provide incentive for pro-Walker voters to turn out in large numbers.

Vince on December 1, 2011 at 11:16 AM

I’m not counting on it. Last summer’s set of 9 recalls saw more votes for the Rats in every district but one than Tom Barrett got in the gubernatorial election last year.

Steve Eggleston on December 1, 2011 at 2:46 PM