More Newtmentum news: Florida edition

posted at 12:45 pm on November 30, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

Another day, another state. While the media continues to line up a variety of non-silver bullets to fire at Newt Gingrich from stories both old and new, the pollsters take to the field and keep bringing back encouraging signs for the former Speaker. This time it comes from the always critical Sunshine State, which Obama managed to carry in 2008. How’s Newt doing? Pretty well, as it turns out.

Newt Gingrich is the current favorite in Florida’s Jan. 31 Republican presidential primary, picking up supporters who fled Herman Cain to claim 41 percent in a poll conducted Tuesday night for the Florida Times-Union.

Gingrich has as much support as the next four candidates combined in the telephone survey of 513 registered voters who say they’re likely to cast ballots in the primary. The poll, conducted by InsiderAdvantage/Majority Opinion Research, has a margin of error of 4 percent…

“I am totally shocked by these numbers,” said pollster Matt Towery, CEO of InsiderAdvantage. “Newt Gingrich is winning nearly 50 percent of the independent vote, but more importantly, the Republican vote which makes up the vast majority of the Florida Republican primary.”

The rest of the numbers all look pretty bleak. Mitt manages to snag 17% and Herman Cain – who was absolutely dominating Florida last month – has plummeted to 13. Nobody else rose much above the noise level.

The analysis in the Florida Times-Union may prove even more entertaining than the actual poll numbers though. One particularly insightful comment comes in their explanation of how Gingrich has supplanted Herman Cain. They start out by noting the series of sexual harassment and infidelity allegations as the driving factor for Cain’s fall, but then add this caveat. (emphasis added)

While Gingrich has been criticized for having affairs, too, none have surfaced recently. Some pundits have noted that the number and freshness of the accusations are what’s damaging Cain’s chances, especially when coupled with videos of gaffs he made when fielding foreign-policy questions.

I see. So basically that sort of allegation is OK, providing it’s not too recent and you don’t have too many of them. It’s turning out to be a strange season indeed, sports fans.

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Mitt Fatigue has set in.

I guess that happens when you’ve been running for President for 8 years.

Gingrich’s intensity score is high, while Romney’s is abysmal.

portlandon on November 30, 2011 at 12:48 PM

I still wonder about his campaign’s financial status. It’s balance sheet, at last reporting was way in the red. True had cash on hand, but more outstanding accounts payable than funds. He would have had to bring in several millions since that time, and still he has not had enough to spend a dime in Iowa, other than his own travel expenses.

Polling is fine and dandy but with no money does his campaign end up looking like Solyndra’s?

Kermit on November 30, 2011 at 12:52 PM

The proper caption for the Newt picture is …
“The fish was this big”

J_Crater on November 30, 2011 at 12:52 PM

OT: dear leader seals records on murdered border patrol due to fast and furious

Just saw on drudge

cmsinaz on November 30, 2011 at 12:52 PM

This poll is garbage. The head of the polling company, Insider Advantage, is Newt’s former campaign manager. The idea that Newt is doing 20+ points better in Florida than he is in the RCP national average, is absurd.

Jon0815 on November 30, 2011 at 12:53 PM

Ugh. The status quo strikes again.

Next up in 2016: more of the same, thanks to unprincipled Republicans voting for unprincipled candidates. Yet the ones who insisted we vote for McCain, and now insist we vote for Romney/Gingrich/misc.-sleazy-politician-of-the-week, will be somehow still manage to be shocked, shocked!

Splashman on November 30, 2011 at 12:53 PM

Newt = Lincoln
Obama = Douglas

jp on November 30, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Better caption: “The box of cash I got from Freddie Mac was this big”. Yeah, Newt: you were a LOBBYIST, not a ‘historian’.

michaelo on November 30, 2011 at 12:55 PM

A better photo caption: “My position on issue X is somewhere between here and here. Depending on who’s asking.”

Splashman on November 30, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Mitt Fatigue has set in.

I guess that happens when you’ve been running for President for 8 years.

portlandon on November 30, 2011 at 12:48 PM

He didn’t do himself any favors in the Bret Bair interview last night. I thought it was interesting that it wasn’t done in the Center Seat format the other candidates have had to use.

a capella on November 30, 2011 at 12:57 PM

I see. So basically that sort of allegation is OK, providing it’s not too recent and you don’t have too many of them.

Sort of like Newt’s illegal immigration stance. They’re okay if they’ve been here long enough.

SouthernGent on November 30, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Newtmentum in full force.

nickj116 on November 30, 2011 at 12:59 PM

OT: dear leader seals records on murdered border patrol due to fast and furious

Just saw on drudge

cmsinaz on November 30, 2011 at 12:52 PM

This is huge.

Blatant coverup, the blood is in the water now.

Rebar on November 30, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Newt = Lincoln
Obama = Douglas

jp on November 30, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Great, so we can look forward to four more years of Obama is what you’re saying? You know, since Douglas won the election.

Red Cloud on November 30, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Blatant coverup, the blood is in the water now.

Rebar on November 30, 2011 at 12:59 PM

I wonder if this also makes them unavailable to Issa’s committee.

a capella on November 30, 2011 at 1:05 PM

If republicans really believe Newt can win the general, they have lost their minds.

drballard on November 30, 2011 at 1:05 PM

I wonder if this also makes them unavailable to Issa’s committee.

a capella on November 30, 2011 at 1:05 PM

Can sealed records be subpoenaed? Any lawyers have an answer?

Rebar on November 30, 2011 at 1:07 PM

I’ll just out it this way…who is more likely to get support from Congress as President and actually GET THINGS DONE WITH THEIR BACKING?

I think many Congress do not want to work or want Gingrich as their POTUS. TOO. MUCH. BAGGAGE.
You will also notice out of (6) votes, four come from his home state of GA, while Romney’s is from ALL OVER the country.

2012Presidential@cqrollcall.com.

Mitt Romney (48)
Sen. Kelly Ayotte (N.H.)
Sen. Roy Blunt (Mo.)
Sen. Scott Brown (Mass.)
Sen. Thad Cochran (Miss.)
Sen. Orrin Hatch (Utah)
Sen. John Hoeven (N.D.)
Sen. James Risch (Idaho)
Sen. John Thune (S.D.)
Rep. Rodney Alexander (La.)
Rep. Mark Amodei (Nev.)
Rep. Charles Bass (N.H.)
Rep. Judy Biggert (Ill.)
Rep. Rob Bishop (Utah)
Rep. Mary Bono Mack (Calif.)
Rep. John Campbell (Calif.)
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (Utah)
Rep. Howard Coble (N.C.)
Rep. Ander Crenshaw (Fla.)
Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (Fla.)
Rep. Robert Dold (Ill.)
Rep. Jeff Flake (Ariz.)
Rep. Virginia Foxx (N.C.)
Rep. Jim Gerlach (Pa.)
Rep. Tim Griffin (Ark.)
Rep. Michael Grimm (N.Y.)
Rep. Andy Harris (Md.)
Rep. Nan Hayworth (N.Y.)
Rep. Joe Heck (Nev.)
Rep. Wally Herger (Calif.)
Rep. Darrell Issa (Calif.)
Rep. Leonard Lance (N.J.)
Rep. Cynthia Lummis (Wyo.)
Rep. Connie Mack IV (Fla.)
Rep. Thaddeus McCotter (Mich.)
Rep. Patrick McHenry (N.C.)
Rep. Buck McKeon (Calif.)
Rep. Jeff Miller (Fla.)
Rep. Jim Renacci (Ohio)
Rep. Hal Rogers (Ky.)
Rep. Mike Rogers (Ala.)
Rep. Todd Rokita (Ind.)
Rep. Tom Rooney (Fla.)
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Fla.)
Rep. Aaron Schock (Ill.)
Rep. Mike Simpson (Idaho)
Rep. Lamar Smith (Texas)
Rep. Greg Walden (Ore.)
Rep. Ed Whitfield (Ky.)

Newt Gingrich (6)
Rep. Joe Barton (Texas)
Rep. Michael Burgess (Texas)
Rep. Phil Gingrey (Ga.)
Rep. Jack Kingston (Ga.)
Rep. Tom Price (Ga.)
Rep. Austin Scott (Ga.)

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 1:07 PM

Blatant coverup, the blood is in the water now.

Rebar on November 30, 2011 at 12:59 PM

I agree. In-your-face cover-up. Holder attacks conservative journals for daring to press the issue. They seem completely confident in the MSM’s power to suppress.

rrpjr on November 30, 2011 at 1:08 PM

I mean, how will the evangelicals feel after Newt’s multiple massive indescretions are fully refreshed in the press? Howsabout fiscal cons, when we get replay of him making out with pelosi? As I recall, he repeatedly praised her for her good looks. A little cross the aisle romance anyone?
And he’s flipped as much as Romney, and has many of the same positions as romney, but none of the organization or executive expirience.

drballard on November 30, 2011 at 1:08 PM

I’ll just out it this way…who is more likely to get support from Congress as President and actually GET THINGS DONE WITH THEIR BACKING?

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 1:07 PM

You mean the congress that is running around aimlessly without leadership and only 9% of the nation has any trust in?

Romney getting support from congress is hardly a good thing.

portlandon on November 30, 2011 at 1:10 PM

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 1:07 PM

I’d rather be supported by the first 538 names in the phone book than all 538 congresspersons/senators in DC!

ConservativePartyNow on November 30, 2011 at 1:11 PM

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 1:07 PM

You’re not doing your candidate any favors with this list.

rrpjr on November 30, 2011 at 1:11 PM

I see. So basically that sort of allegation is OK, providing it’s not too recent and you don’t have too many of them. It’s turning out to be a strange season indeed, sports fans.

See Clinton, William J. He was able to weather past infidelities. while running, and current ones while president.

Right now, I suspect many people don’t have the luxury of holding out for the Perfect Candidate.

rbj on November 30, 2011 at 1:11 PM

Great, so we can look forward to four more years of Obama is what you’re saying? You know, since Douglas won the election.

Red Cloud on November 30, 2011 at 1:02 PM

but Lincoln won the debates and these debates won him Presidency.

jp on November 30, 2011 at 1:11 PM

Seriously Newt Nuts. Go ahead, run him. Nominate him. Then when he loses, you all can blame me for not voting. If you gave me choice between Newt and Herpes, I’d seriously be considering Herpes. After all, it’s only for life right?

I’m giving up on the Republican Party. You are like the OWS crowd, too stupid to be saved.

Last night, I told several co workers that I was fairly certain that a Politician named Newt was in Revelations somewhere. Out of ten people, ten agreed that he was a horrible candidate. BTW, that was the Republican’s target demographic. All ten were White, and middle class.

For my Black friends, the word Newt is usually proceeded by a four letter word.

You want it, you got it. Good riddence to you all. I’m off to Amazon to buy some survivial food. The country is beyond saving at this point.

Snake307 on November 30, 2011 at 1:11 PM

Newt = Lincoln
Obama = Douglas

jp on November 30, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Great, so we can look forward to four more years of Obama is what you’re saying? You know, since Douglas won the election.

Red Cloud on November 30, 2011 at 1:02 PM

When we’re talking Lincoln-Douglas debates, we’re not talking about who is representing who. We’re talking about the debate format. First speaker gets one hour, second gets 90 minutes, first speaker gets 30 minutes to respond. Debate over. Need to decide on the time limits, but that’s the format…and Gingrich assuredly cleans Obama’s clock in that format.

Trafalgar on November 30, 2011 at 1:11 PM

Newt Lifetime ACU rating is 95

What do you think Romney’s would be?

jp on November 30, 2011 at 1:12 PM

Rassmussen via Drudge:

GINGRICH 45 OBAMA 43

So the Romney supporters here who keep claiming that Romney is the only one who can beat Obama just lost a meme.

portlandon on November 30, 2011 at 1:13 PM

I think many Congress do not want to work or want Gingrich as their POTUS.

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 1:07 PM

Who cares? Each member of Congress gets one vote on POTUS, exactly the same number as I do.

Trafalgar on November 30, 2011 at 1:15 PM

Romney getting support from congress is hardly a good thing.

portlandon on November 30, 2011 at 1:10 PM
rrpjr on November 30, 2011 at 1:11 PM

hahaha you guys crack me up because if it WAS YOUR CANDIDATE you would not be making these statements. Plus look close enough there are many Tea Party congressmen/women on there. Romney will continue to bring out his supporters/endorsements from Congress. Gov. Christie will be out speaking for him, Pawlenty, Judge Bork, Michael Mukasey, Ann Coulter, etc…

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 1:15 PM

It is interesting to see all the so called conservatives tearing each other apart in this election. They seem to do it all the time. Democrats don’t need to do anything except sit back and watch the fun. If people are so stupid as to say they will stay home if their candidate is not picked then they have no right to bitch when this country goes to hell when Obama is elected again. I think it is time to get real and realize that this is coming down to Mitt and Newt. Cain had a chance at one point but all news around these allegations and affairs will destroy him if not already. The others do not have a chance and even if they may have priciples that you may like or want in a candidate they are considered on the fringe and no majority will vote for them. There is no perfect one and it is going to come down to how many warts are we willing to put up with in exchange for real ideas and leadership. I myself am for Newtonium but will vote for any of the others if they make as it is preferable over the clown in chage right now.

Some say that it may be a slower death with some of the candidates but at least it will give us more time to elect a better candidate next time. Like it or not these are the people who are running and we have to get behind one of them.

jistincase on November 30, 2011 at 1:20 PM

While Gingrich has been criticized for having affairs, too, none have surfaced recently. Some pundits have noted that the number and freshness of the accusations are what’s damaging Cain’s chances, especially when coupled with videos of gaffs he made when fielding foreign-policy questions.

Attention Newtnauts! You better hope he married ALL his bimbos!

Actually, I’ve seen enough evidence that I don’t believe the claims of sexual harassment against Cain. The jury is still out on this latest affair charge, but Cain’s ignorance of basic foreign affairs and his answers of surrounding himself with the experts etc. aren’t reassuring when you see who he’s surrounded himself with in his campaign.

cartooner on November 30, 2011 at 1:21 PM

Ugh. The status quo dammit, there is such a thing as the candidate that agrees with me 100%, and even if he never shows up, don’t vote for anyone else, strikes again.

Next up in 2016: more of the same bitching from people about Obama even though they refuse to vote for the GOP nom because “their guy” didn’t get in, thanks to unprincipled sore loser Republicans Paulnust and republicans voting for unprincipled candidates not voting for the actual candidate that they agree with the most. Yet the ones who insisted we vote for McCain don’t vote at all because Ron Paul/the 100%-agrees-with-me-perfect-candiate didn’t win the GOP nom in 2008, and now insist we vote for Romney/Gingrich/misc.-sleazy-politician-of-the-week don’t vote again for the GOP nom if Ron Paul/100%-agrees-with-me-perfect-candate doesn’t get the nom, will somehow still manage to be shocked, shocked!
Splashman on November 30, 2011 at 12:53 PM

b!tch about Obama being in office with a straight face.

DethMetalCookieMonst on November 30, 2011 at 1:22 PM

Who cares? Each member of Congress gets one vote on POTUS, exactly the same number as I do.

Trafalgar on November 30, 2011 at 1:15 PM

Yet when Newt loses in the General, you’ll blame all of us for not using our one vote on your dream candidate in delusional land.

Dunce, all you want is to see Newt smack down Obama in the debates. It won’t happen. If it did, Newt would lose even bigger thanks to the election reduced to “Is Newt a Racist?” and the susiquent in depth investigations led by “experts” who will determine that he is, but no more than other white males from Georgia his age.

Prediction for now, Obama wins with 37 states.

Snake307 on November 30, 2011 at 1:22 PM

Snake307 on November 30, 2011 at 1:11 PM

What is ironic here Snake is that ALL those that CLAIM Romney’s flips are the exact ones that have changed their choices here on HA over the last 6 months!

Gingrich has changed positions so many times and HAS BEEN A CAREER POLITICIAN. What happened to the Tea Party’s (which I back) belief in smaller gov’t yet are jumping on to the Gingrich train now?

have your fun in the sun for 15 minutes…Gingrich will crush your happiness in the end. Just ask Ryan, Dede, Pelosi, Dr Berwick, ’98 Congress, Clinton, fannie/freddie, etc etc…

It is nice to see many of YOUR Congressmen that you voted for support my candidate. Maybe it is because they know more about Romney than you do and his experience. :o)

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 1:22 PM

Rassmussen via Drudge:

GINGRICH 45 OBAMA 43

So the Romney supporters here who keep claiming that Romney is the only one who can beat Obama just lost a meme.

portlandon on November 30, 2011 at 1:13 PM

and after the Lincoln/Douglas debates that will of course be 75/25 Newt

/sarc

jp on November 30, 2011 at 1:23 PM

I’m just sad knowing that I will never see a competent GOP in my lifetime. 20 years of getting their butts kicked politically, offering up the worst candidates for POTUS, heading into each new session of Congress marching behind the leader waving a white flag pre-emptively – and it gets worse every year.

The only hope we (as a country) have is to sneak in more states rights over the years, because GOP competence ends at the governor’s mansion.

reaganaut on November 30, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Yet when Newt loses in the General, you’ll blame all of us for not using our one vote on your dream candidate in delusional land.

Dunce, all you want is to see Newt smack down Obama in the debates…

Snake307 on November 30, 2011 at 1:22 PM

To your first point, If Newt’s the nominee and you chose not to exercise your vote because of that, I won’t blame you; however, I will point out that you’ve excluded yourself from whining about the state of the country for the next 4 years if Obama is re-elected.

Point two, personal attacks are not necessary and don’t add weight to your arguement. It’s not that I just want Newt to expose Obama as a fraud during the campaign and the debates, it’s more about wanting to see the best man defeat Obama in the election and take over the reins of government, and I happen to believe that man is Gingrich. You’re free to disagree, but name-calling is sophomoric.

And, by the way, I haven’t jumped off anyone’s bandwagon to jump onto Newt’s. I’ve always supported him and have the receipts to prove it.

Trafalgar on November 30, 2011 at 1:37 PM

Seriously Newt Nuts. Go ahead, run him. Nominate him. Then when he loses, you all can blame me for not voting. If you gave me choice between Newt and Herpes, I’d seriously be considering Herpes. After all, it’s only for life right?

I’m giving up on the Republican Party. You are like the OWS crowd, too stupid to be saved.

Last night, I told several co workers that I was fairly certain that a Politician named Newt was in Revelations somewhere. Out of ten people, ten agreed that he was a horrible candidate. BTW, that was the Republican’s target demographic. All ten were White, and middle class.

For my Black friends, the word Newt is usually proceeded by a four letter word.

You want it, you got it. Good riddence to you all. I’m off to Amazon to buy some survivial food. The country is beyond saving at this point.

Talk to a bunch of people at a Ron Paul rally. None of them liked Newt.

Snake307 on November 30, 2011 at 1:11 PM

See. You could have saved yourself from a whole lot of typing.

DethMetalCookieMonst on November 30, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Where is Igor R….?

Seven Percent Solution on November 30, 2011 at 1:39 PM

This poll is garbage. The head of the polling company, Insider Advantage, is Newt’s former campaign manager. The idea that Newt is doing 20+ points better in Florida than he is in the RCP national average, is absurd.

Jon0815 on November 30, 2011 at 12:53 PM

You already whined this on the headline thread.

katy the mean old lady on November 30, 2011 at 1:40 PM

If republicans really believe Newt can win the general, they have lost their minds.

drballard on November 30, 2011 at 1:05 PM

True. But if they don’t believe he can win the general, but are supporting him anyhow, that’s even worse.

A better summation: Republican voters have lost their minds.

Splashman on November 30, 2011 at 1:40 PM

Yepper rebar

cmsinaz on November 30, 2011 at 1:43 PM

I will leave the POTUS box blank and unchecked before I will ever cast the vote for Newt Gingrich.

I. Will. Not. Vote. For. POTUS. Newt. Gingrich. EVER.

FlatFoot on November 30, 2011 at 1:48 PM

The power of NOT-Romney is strong… and it’s basically too late now for someone else to take that position (Perry was the most qualified, but he flamed out in a most spectacular fashion)

The power of Anybody-But-Obama is even stronger… Only a third-party candidate can derail his train back to Chicago…

even 18 months ago, Newt had WAY too much baggage to be seriously considered as a viable candidate, but Conventional Wisdom will not factor in to this election (tough times require tough answers)… The only places Newt isn’t a winner are DC, NYC, LA and SF… Places that are never going to vote for a GOP candidate anyway…

Is it unfortunate that the best of the GOP are too young and were positioning themselves for 2016/2020… Yes… But Newt does look like the guys on our dollar bills, and that will go a long way with 1 of 6 people without a job…

phreshone on November 30, 2011 at 1:48 PM

And, by the way, I haven’t jumped off anyone’s bandwagon to jump onto Newt’s. I’ve always supported him and have the receipts to prove it.

Trafalgar on November 30, 2011 at 1:37 PM

I don’t agree with your choice of Gingrich but I am fair and that last line was hilarious!

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Some of us that are older will remember Gingrich’s arrogance and that will continue to come through as if we are being lectured to or being spoken down to like the current occupant.

See here in response to Bachmann:
“Some people are just factually challenged,” Gingrich responded. “It’s unfortunate. When I was a teacher I occasionally had a student who couldn’t figure out where things were or what things were or what the right date was. When that happens, you feel sorry that they are so factually challenged.”

Yeah, that has been working so well the last 3+ years.

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 1:52 PM

yeah, I’ll post this again…

Gingrich supporting Dr Berwick
http://spectator.org/archives/2011/11/28/newts-health-problems

how about those death panels?

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 1:54 PM

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 1:52 PM

What are you going to do when Romney loses the nomination?

Punchenko on November 30, 2011 at 1:55 PM

Newt = Lincoln
Obama = Douglas

jp on November 30, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Newt = Hitchens
Obama = Sharpton

esnap on November 30, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Rassmussen via Drudge:

GINGRICH 45 OBAMA 43

So the Romney supporters here who keep claiming that Romney is the only one who can beat Obama just lost a meme.

portlandon on November 30, 2011 at 1:13 PM

1 poll does not a trend make. If you look at the RCP list of Gingrich/Obama polls, this is definitely an outlier.

angryed on November 30, 2011 at 1:59 PM

I will leave the POTUS box blank and unchecked before I will ever cast the vote for Newt Gingrich.

I. Will. Not. Vote. For. POTUS. Newt. Gingrich. EVER.

FlatFoot on November 30, 2011 at 1:48 PM

That is your choice; however, if Newt is the nominee and you choose not to vote in the POTUS election and Obama wins, please don’t come back on HA for the next four years to whine about Obama’s disastrous second term.

Trafalgar on November 30, 2011 at 1:59 PM

A month ago there was one poll showing Cain leading Obama 41/39 or something like that. It was the one and only such poll we ever saw.

angryed on November 30, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Obama = Sharpton

esnap on November 30, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Newt Gingrich is eatin’ all da blueberry pie!

-Rev. Al Sharpton

Punchenko on November 30, 2011 at 2:05 PM

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 1:22 PM

So you cite a bunch of Congressional endorsements to prove that Mittens is who we should vote for?

You DO realize, don’t you – that you’re not helping Mittens with that list right?

HondaV65 on November 30, 2011 at 2:09 PM

A month ago there was one poll showing Cain leading Obama 41/39 or something like that. It was the one and only such poll we ever saw.

angryed on November 30, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Well that was a month ago – old news and six women ago.

HondaV65 on November 30, 2011 at 2:10 PM

Trafalgar on November 30, 2011 at 1:59 PM

I’ll just ‘come back on HA for the next four years to whine‘ about the GOP and the majority of the Right making Newt Gingrich the candidate which I have no control over. Then I most certainly shall ‘whine’ about Barack Hussein Obama’s disastrous second term all I care to and want to on a whim if I so desire… with absolutely zero regard for how you just might feel about that.

Get it? Got it? Good.

FlatFoot on November 30, 2011 at 2:13 PM

If you gave me choice between Newt and Herpes, I’d seriously be considering Herpes. After all, it’s only for life right?

Snake307 on November 30, 2011 at 1:11 PM

I’ll vote for whoever the R nominee is. I’m listening to Rush right now, he’s right. We need to focus on Obama and defeat him. I happen to like Newt because of his plan that he’s laid out on Newt.org. I like Santorum also, Newt’s just capable of communicating more effectively.

jollybird on November 30, 2011 at 2:13 PM

1 poll does not a trend make. If you look at the RCP list of Gingrich/Obama polls, this is definitely an outlier.

angryed on November 30, 2011 at 1:59 PM

RCP #’s are a conglomeration of a bunch of polls over time. NewtMentum just started a week ago. Give it a month, and that outlier will be the norm.

portlandon on November 30, 2011 at 2:14 PM

katy the mean old lady on November 30, 2011 at 1:40 PM

Katy,
have not seen you in a week or more….

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 2:28 PM

What are you going to do when Romney loses the nomination?

Punchenko on November 30, 2011 at 1:55 PM

Oh, he is going to win…the Romney camp has seen this ride before. Gingrich’s negative qualities will rise up. I am amazed at how many people are blindly overlooking his MANY MANY negatives.

Obama has only been focused on ONE person and that is Romney because they DO NOT want to face him. FACT. Why else attack someone you are not worried about?

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 2:31 PM

I’ll just ‘come back on HA for the next four years to whine‘ about the GOP and the majority of the Right making Newt Gingrich the candidate which I have no control over. Then I most certainly shall ‘whine’ about Barack Hussein Obama’s disastrous second term all I care to and want to on a whim if I so desire… with absolutely zero regard for how you just might feel about that.

Get it? Got it? Good.

FlatFoot on November 30, 2011 at 2:13 PM

Great, and when you do whine about Obama’s second term, I most certainly shall point out that you failed to do anything to prevent it.

Get it? Got it? Good.

Trafalgar on November 30, 2011 at 2:33 PM

For my Black friends, the word Newt is usually proceeded by a four letter word.

Snake307 on November 30, 2011 at 1:11 PM

The vituperation level is rising across the board, but this comment is really offensive, at least to me.

GaltBlvnAtty on November 30, 2011 at 2:37 PM

U.S.News & World Report
Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Which family, the Obamas or Romneys, would you most like to spend Thanksgiving dinner with?

9.58% President Obama’s family
90.42% Mitt Romney’s family

Well, its now solved! Romney is the winner! At least the Romney family will mention and pray to God that Obama seems avoid like…”the plague” ;o)

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 2:47 PM

Well, its now solved! Romney is the winner! At least the Romney family will mention and pray to God that Obama seems avoid like…”the plague” ;o)

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 2:47 PM

Well maybe, but given the choice between dining with the Obama family and a family of under-the-bridge-dwelling trolls, I think the trolls win hands down.

Trafalgar on November 30, 2011 at 2:53 PM

Great, and when you do whine about Obama’s second term, I most certainly shall point out that you failed to do anything to prevent it.

Get it? Got it? Good.

Trafalgar on November 30, 2011 at 2:33 PM

I’ve voted in each and every single local and national election since I turned 18-yrs old and I am… um, I’ll just say that I am past the half century mark now. I have never missed an election. Ever. Not one. I shall do anything and everything I can to make sure scumbag Newt Gingrich is not the POTUS candidate. In other words, I shall cast my vote, in the primaries, yet again. As I shall in each and every election until the day I die.

I will most certainly not have “failed to do anything to prevent it” by any stretch of your deeply limited imagination. I will be voting for a viable candidate.

I will not knowingly take part in substituting one disastrous evil for another by casting a vote for Newt Gingrich. And I shall come back for years to come to whine about Obama or say I told you so, and there is nothing you can do to prevent that from happening. You hold no sway whatsoever. So, gird your loins and be prepared to suck it up, buddy.

FlatFoot on November 30, 2011 at 2:57 PM

This election is going to be about giving the voters something to vote for, not just simply an anti-Obama vote.

Who will better lay out a vision of America that is opposite of Obama? Newt or Romney?

Newt has way better conservative credentials than Romney does. Most of these “connections” to liberals comes from his willingness to engage in ideas instead of just running away and saying no.

cpaulus on November 30, 2011 at 2:57 PM

I will most certainly not have “failed to do anything to prevent it” by any stretch of your deeply limited imagination. I will be voting for a viable candidate.

I will not knowingly take part in substituting one disastrous evil for another by casting a vote for Newt Gingrich. And I shall come back for years to come to whine about Obama or say I told you so, and there is nothing you can do to prevent that from happening. You hold no sway whatsoever. So, gird your loins and be prepared to suck it up, buddy.

FlatFoot on November 30, 2011 at 2:57 PM

Leaving aside the unwarranted and sophomoric slur, your original comment implied that you would leave the POTUS ballot blank if Gingrich is the Republican candidate, possibly enabling Obama to be re-elected by your failure to cast a vote against him. Remember that unseating Obama is the prize here and that by failing to cast a vote against him when you had the opportunity, you did not do everything you could to prevent his second term.

As I mentioned in my previous comment, the fact that you’ll return here to whine about Obama’s 2nd term is great. So is the fact that I will point out that you had the opportunity to prevent it, and you failed to do so.

Loins girded, buddy!

Trafalgar on November 30, 2011 at 3:12 PM

The only card Mittens has left to play is to ask Sarah Palin in. That way, this would become a three way contest and Mittens could sneak in somehow. If he’s any smart, his people would start encouraging the reconsider efforts.

promachus on November 30, 2011 at 3:13 PM

Amazing how close Florida numbers for Gingrich mirror our own folks here at HA (percentage wise….

GINGRICH (180) [Current 45.1%, Previous, 43.5%, High 45.1%]…wonder if this is going to play out nationally?

RedLizard64 on November 30, 2011 at 3:15 PM

THESE will continue for you newly minted Gingrich fans…

Rich Galen, former communications director to then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich, described his old boss on Morning Joe as a self-styled visionary with a huge arrogance problem.

Galen compared Gingrich to Steve Jobs in terms of his powers of persuasion, but with a key difference: “I think the difference is that with Newt…there’s no iPod at the other end of it.”

When reminded of Gingrich’s recent defense against charges of lobbyng after leaving the House — Gingrich said he didn’t need to lobby because he made $60,000 per speech — Galen slammed Gingrich again. “I think he’s talking to the inside of his eyelids [when he says that],” Galen said.

“My experience,” Galen said in a conclusory comment on Gingrich’s arrogance, “with PhD’s in the House of Representatives and Senate, is that the only people worse than them are [medical doctors], [in terms of telling you] how smart they are.”
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/fmr-press-sec-rips-newt-steve-jobs-no-ipod/228461

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 3:17 PM

Newt has way better conservative credentials than Romney does. Most of these “connections” to liberals comes from his willingness to engage in ideas instead of just running away and saying no.

cpaulus on November 30, 2011 at 2:57 PM

cpaulus,
I think you need to look deeper into Gingrich’s background and find that he is more liberal than Romney has been…and even has made several statements in the last 12-24 months backing these “historic” ideas up.

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 3:20 PM

RCP #’s are a conglomeration of a bunch of polls over time. NewtMentum just started a week ago. Give it a month, and that outlier will be the norm.

portlandon on November 30, 2011 at 2:14 PM

Maybe. But until that happens, I’m taking today’s poll with a big grain of salt.

angryed on November 30, 2011 at 3:22 PM

I’ll just out it this way…who is more likely to get support from Congress as President and actually GET THINGS DONE WITH THEIR BACKING?

I think many Congress do not want to work or want Gingrich as their POTUS. TOO. MUCH. BAGGAGE Thinking outside of the box for so many on that list who are “Let’s just keep things the way they are…why rock the boat?”.

FIFY

You will also notice out of (6) votes, four come from his home state of GA, while Romney’s is from ALL OVER the country.

RedLizard64 on November 30, 2011 at 3:28 PM

g2825m on November 30, 2011 at 3:20 PM

I’ve noticed that a lot of the time Newt will say “such and such is a serious idea” or something, but that doesn’t mean he endorses it. That doesn’t excuse some of the ones he has endorsed, but a lot of the time he’s just engaging in debate. Starting off by saying “I won” doesn’t get you anywhere.

cpaulus on November 30, 2011 at 3:30 PM

I see. So basically that sort of allegation is OK, providing it’s not too recent and you don’t have too many of them. It’s turning out to be a strange season indeed, sports fans.

I think the first round of allegations capped Cain’s support but the Cain campaign’s poor handling of the issue is what hurt him. (No way to prove that hypothesis.) What caused a lot of Cainiacs to jump ship on this site is his poor handling of the Libya question in Milwaukee. These final allegations and the Cain denial followed by the non-denial from his attorney is what really ended it for him.

If Cain could have responded to the allegations in a manner that fully ended all doubts about him rather than ‘I didn’t do it, shut up.’ I think he would be in much better shape.

Bill C on November 30, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Trafalgar on November 30, 2011 at 1:59 PM
I’ll just ‘come back on HA for the next four years to whine‘ about the GOP and the majority of the Right making Newt Gingrich the candidate which I have no control over. Then I most certainly shall ‘whine’ about Barack Hussein Obama’s disastrous second term all I care to and want to on a whim if I so desire… with absolutely zero regard for how you just might feel about that.

Get it? Got it? Good.

FlatFoot on November 30, 2011 at 2:13 PM

For goodness sake nobody is telling you you have to vote for Gingrich but you have NO leg to stand on if you DON’t write in your preferred Candidate like I did last Time…I voted Thompson/Palin as write ins!!! Pick your candidate and write their D**m name in then if the GOP loses at least you can say 1) you Voted for the position and 2) you have voted you conscience. heck I’ve went so far as to write my own stinkin name in rather tahn vote for the Crazy Liberal that had no opponent (it will look good to if I ever run for public office…former candidate for 6th district judge, candidate for ____ City Mayor, etc….hahaha

RedLizard64 on November 30, 2011 at 3:38 PM

“My experience,” Galen said in a conclusory comment on Gingrich’s arrogance, “with PhD’s in the House of Representatives and Senate, is that the only people worse than them are [medical doctors], [in terms of telling you] how smart they are.”

Don’t know who this guy is or if he has an ax to grind but it sounds like he has a confidence problem. He doesn’t like smart people?

Vince on November 30, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Vince on November 30, 2011 at 3:58 PM

I screwed up but you get the point.

Vince on November 30, 2011 at 3:59 PM

I see. So basically that sort of allegation is OK, providing it’s not too recent and you don’t have too many of them. It’s turning out to be a strange season indeed, sports fans.

Old scandals show the man that you were.

New scandals show the man that you are.

People can change. But if they are involved in scandals recently or now, the odds that they have changed are a lot, lot smaller.

Besides, like you said, Newt’s old scandals have already been priced into his stock.

Theophile on November 30, 2011 at 5:00 PM